>not long now until Sonic's anniversary party
>almost definitely will get a game announcement
What are we expecting, lads? Hopes, dreams, harsh realities all welcome
>hopeful expectations
generations 2
>dreams
game is in MegaDrive comic style
>harsh realities
The game is rushed so it turns out like 06 or Boom or they do something gimmicky like the wii games
This Anon >>344917685 basically said everything I had in mind.
These next 9 days are gonna be unbearable to wait out, that Sonic twitter really pumped up my curiosity on this new game which is something I didn't expect to ever feel from this series again.
I'm expecting PLANET FREEDOM
>>344917685
You can't even say the game is being rushed since it's releasing in 2017 rather than trying to hit the 25th anniversary deadline.
>>344917203
What's the day of the party?
if it isn't Sonic adventure 3 or Heroes 2 Sonic is fucked
I just want a Sonic the Fighters 2 or French Bread developed anime Sonic fighterusing the modern Archie comics cast
>>344919185
>if it isn't Sonic adventure 3 or Heroes 2 Sonic is fucked
Who in the flying fuck wants Heroes 2
>>344919185
Why are people so obsessed with getting sonic adventure 3? It would end up being terrible.
>>344919630
They fell for the "Sonic Adventure is good" meme.
Mario cucking him again
>>344919426
A lot of people
>>344919185
SA2 and Heroes were good games, but I would prefer something different.
>>344919630
The idea is that people remember the good parts of the Adventures, like the general aesthetic, the music, the character variety (but not the tedium of certain characters), the CHAO GARDEN, the intertwining stories, the Sonic/Shadow gameplay, SA2's rockin' multiplayer and so on.
Unfortunately because Adventure fans are generally younger than Classic fans, they don't seem to have learnt from our mistakes. The concept of Sonic Adventure 3 relies on the idea that they'll take and refine the good parts of the Adventure franchise and cut what doesn't work. However, if Sonic 4 is any indication, it's more likely that they'll take the good parts AND the bad parts of what worked, and then make the good parts a bit worse because the current Sonic Team doesn't fully remember or understand what made the good parts so good in the first place.
Basically, Adventure fans want the good parts of the Adventures but with tweaks and improvements. What they'll likely get is a hideous caricature of the Adventures with the good bits neutered even more.
>>344920280
There are people on this planet that thought Sonic 4 was actually good.
>>344920071
What really happened afterwards.
>>344920586
It was passable as a fun little mobile phone game (which is apparently what it was originally supposed to be). As an actual Sonic 4, it's an abomination.
>>344919285
>Sonic anime fighter
FUCKING YES--
>Archie cast
Dropped.
There's more than enough game characters to make a good cast without shoving in muh OCs.
tails gets trolled finally gets made into a xenosaga type game
>>344920280
>if Sonic 4 is any indication
Sonic 4 was just a cheap mobile game called that way because someone thought it would get more hype that way. And it worked.
Sonic Team could easily make a worthy S3&K succesor. They just don't have tried it yet.
>>344920652
>>344920793
Fuck that, I want an ongoing anime adaptation. Get the guys from Dragon Ball Super to do it, I'm sure they'd nail the art style
>>344920931
>Sonic Team could easily make a worthy S3&K succesor
Considering how wrong they got Classic Sonic in Generations, I doubt it.
>>344920280
Many of the bad parts of adventure games are easily fixed. For example, after 06 I never encountered again some loop where I have to press always forward,no matter what I see on screen, or else I die.
Still, I would gladly take another boost game, or even better a classic themed over adventure 3.
>>344921160
>>344921160
>that face
what the fuck man?
>>344917203
Something completely new and different for the series. All the classic, adventure, etc. hints are to throw off expectationsand troll people.
>>344921509
Don't take it seriously, that pic is bait comparing SSJ Goku to SSJ3 Goku. That form always looks dumb as fuck, and the low animation budget doesn't help.
>>344921509
you hire cheap sweatshop animators and you'll get exactly what you pay for: cheap sweatshop animation
>>344917203
A gun to the head. Sonic needed to die a long time ago
>>344922257
And we've got our first 'just let Sonic die' poster! Now it's a real Sonic thread. Everybody keep your eyes out for the other regulars
>unleashedanon
>'I hate classic fans' anon
>Rouge lewds anon
>Thicc Amy anon
>That .webm comparing the classic physics to Lost World
>The one guy who thinks Sonic & Knuckles is great but Sonic 3 sucks
>"Taxman ___________ when?"
>Chrischanposting
>Two Babies One Fox
>Game Grumps
Happy hunting!
I want another comfy game like Unleashed.
>>344922702
Do we need a new version/update?
>>344920280
>However, if Sonic 4 is any indication, it's more likely that they'll take the good parts AND the bad parts of what worked, and then make the good parts a bit worse because the current Sonic Team doesn't fully remember or understand what made the good parts so good in the first place.
Sonic 4 was primarily developed by DIMPS with some minor oversight from SEGA, so if anyone's gonna take the blame for how 4 turned out, it would be them.
Calling it right now, Sonic Adventure 3 is the game that Sega will announce at the anniversary event.
The misplaced nostalgia around the SA games will make a theoretical SA3 sell at least a million on that alone.
>>344922079
It's not just that, but Toei in general's had a massive decline in quality and it might end up ruining them.
Another game with blue armed sonic.
Please God.
>>344923148
Well, Sonic 4 isn't the only example. Take Sonic 06 for instance, which isn't SA3 in name but surely was SA3-esque in design ideas (sans Chao Garden). Or the Classic Sonic levels in Generations, which were fun in their own right but hardly like the originals at all.
The point is, they shouldn't try throwing new stuff at the wall just to see what sticks (see: Werehog, Sonic Boom, etc.) but they shouldn't just wallow in the past either. Generations was a fluke, Sonic has a pretty atrocious history of trying to relive his past successes. I'd rather they do a new (and potentially unpopular) idea right than take an old idea and get it wrong.
>>344920931
>Sonic Team could easily make a worthy S3&K succesor.
No they couldn't. It's not even within the spectrum of easy to hard. They simply can't. They have zero sense of classic Sonic's qualities and when they actually have touched classic Sonic again, ala Generations, they show they have no understanding of what it was like and draw from it in the most confused and point missing ways possible.
>>344923339
Well in their twitter they always talk about Sonic Adventure 3
I even remember something that Madeon said that it could make a trailer music, but the game would be Sonic Adventure 3
I don't even see how they could make a Sonic Adventure 3, the tonal shift between Sonic's last eight years of light whimst and SA3 would be enormous. Not to mention timeline issues (do they carry on from after Lost World? Place it between SA2 and Heroes? Retcon everything from a certain game onwards?). Plus, the second they call it SA3 they're setting it up to be a disappointment.
Learn lessons from the good bits of the Adventures. Heck, take the good elements from the whole franchise! But the second you name it after an old branch of the franchise, you get into a clusterfuck situation where the reputation of the brand can only stand to suffer. Have people learned nothing from the leagues of 80s movie reboots that end up shitting on the legacy?
>>344924429
whimsy*
>>344924429
>the tonal shift between Sonic's last eight years of light whimst and SA3 would be enormous
Not really. Just do an MCU styled quip off story with tons of comedy with action and you'd end up matching the Adventures game pretty well.
>>344924429
Between SA2 and Heroes. Make it so it doesn't contradict anything since then.
It's not that hard if you have a good writer. However, it would probably be written by Pontaff and Graff, so we're fucked.
>>344924782
Do you have more comparison pics?
>>344924429
>Not to mention timeline issues (do they carry on from after Lost World? Place it between SA2 and Heroes? Retcon everything from a certain game onwards?)
You're acting as if the games don't just make shit up as they go along, especially after/during Ow the Edge and 06.
Not enough bartebly
https://youtu.be/o6unthyYudA
>>344925302
There are a few here: http://s270.photobucket.com/user/skull900/library/?sort=3&page=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OKT6nSeFPw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9fHGdR1IyM
>>344926142
>Dreamcast has better textures than most modern games
It hurts
>>344917203
>expecting
More rehashed garbage instead of taking the series into new directions like they used to in the 2000s
>hoping
anything but that, and to finally make a 3D game after years of shitty 2D games.
>>344922702
thicc amy?
do want
>>344917203
Did someone say weed party?
>>344922702
Has anyone seen that guy who was making his own Sonic game? It was 3D with an actual physics engine with rolling and shit. I think he uses the Generations model and he's usually rolling around Green Hill in the WenMs. If anyone has the WebMs I would appreciate them posting it. Love looking at what could have been...
>>344927731
Go to church young man, that's what sanic the fast pikacu would tell you
>Mega Drive comic art style.
>Adventure style hub-world.
>***60fps***
>Controls similar to a Lost World / Adventure hybrid (tighter homing attack, momentum isn't lost when turning.)
>Levels include branching paths that reward speed + precision and not just speed (i.e. Unleashed.)
>Co-op missions & side-missions.
>Online portion where you can challenge your friends to custom created courses, missions in the hub world, etc.
>CHAO GARDEN
>Cutscenes actually handled with care and matter to the plot (i.e. any Metal Gear Solid game.)
>Branches off the main timeline after Sonic 3.
>Follows Sonic & co. circa Sonic 3 in a grand scheme of Dr. Eggman involving the Chaos Emeralds, alternate dimensions, and going fast.
>You can play as Sonic, Knuckles, or Tails in 3 separate story modes with Sonic's being the largest and most important.
>Sonic is fast, mix of Adventure + Lost World as stated above
>Knuckles is beat-em-up with a focus on speed, not nearly as slow or game-breaking as Werehog or as mind-numbingly annoying as his missions in SA / SA2.
>Tails is slightly slower Sonic + flight.
>Mix of stages with paths specific to each character and unique stages made for that specific character.
>Final, "true" story mode unlocked involving all 3 characters after beating all 3 stories and collecting all 7 Chaos Emeralds (in any of the individual stories).
>(Have you noticed the most prevalent number I've been using so far?)
>Any mission is replayable at any time, including any cutscenes originally played during said mission + Cutscene theater.
>After the credits roll, the logo for the game appears andyou listen in on a phone call between Dr. Eggman and an unknown voice. The subject matter of this call is an old, abandoned Government project that hasn't been heard of in 50 years.
I accept checks and direct bank transfers.
>>344930295
>when you saw the pic and get a boner from Rouge's thick dick
>>344930667
>Cutscenes actually handled with care and matter to the plot (i.e. any Metal Gear Solid game.)
I can get behind this.
Shit, they don't need to make Spec Ops, but not everything has to be all "ha ha this is a big ironic joke". A bit of straight drama suits a character and world like Sonic. A tone like MGR or DMC3 would be good.
>>344930667
>that last spoiler
I would give my left nut for this game.
https://youtu.be/xaZo81-wuS0
>>344924429
if it's a reboot like this anon described i'd be ok with it >>344930667
>>344931807
This podcast was prior to Colors and Generations.
No more wisps, please.
>>344933076
THIS
>>344924782
I wish there was a mod which allowed you to play the game with the original models.
>>344933839
...why not just emulate the original game in nullDC at that point.
You can always just force 60FPS and widescreen at that point.
>>344917203
Classic, Modern and Boom's Sonic crossover
why do so many people want generations 2? i dont want them redoing more shit, just do something original, look at colors, it was glorious and new
but it needs to be based off the mega drive comic
>>344917203
>Hopeful expectations
Sonic Adventure 3 with levels that are like Generations', but slightly less linear.
>Dreams
Sonic Adventure 3 with more open (but not Open World because fuck that meme) levels and slope physics where I can play as Tails outside of a mech suit.
>Harsh realities
Another Sonic game where you only play as Sonic, it's filled with more gimmicks that keep me from the core gameplay of making Sonic go fast by taking the fastest route and rolling at the right times. Also, more of pic related
I kind of want another game with playable Eggman. I have a soft spot for his SA2 levels, though mostly because they're pretty effortless (even by Sonic standards) and you blow up shit.
>>344936029
Probably because people wanted Generations DLC and it never came
>but it needs to be based off the mega drive comic
It felt a bit off, imo
>>344936872
i think there would be good chemistry between the archie guys and sonic team, and the work would come off a bit better. i can see where you're coming from though
What was this game trying to accomplish? For something trying to be so simple it's one of the most confusing Sonic games to date by story and level design standards.
>wisps for no reason
>random acts that don't relate to the zone theme for no reason
>cutscenes more disconnected than the levels
And so much more
>>344937565
>What was this game trying to accomplish?
It was trying to do the one thing that Sonic should never, EVER try to do:
Be Mario.
This is why I consider Lost World to be worse than 06 in that respect, at least.
>>344917203
>Hopeful Expectations
Generations 2, maybe a sequel to Lost World that is heavily improved upon. MAYBE Sonic Adventure 3. Would love to see some fucking consistency instead of SEGA trying to throw a new turd against the wall
>Dreams
Generations style modern stages, direct sequel to Colors. Less 2D and maybe have improved wall running from Lost World packed into the game as well.
>Harsh Realities
Iizuka pushing shit that nobody wants. Wholeheartedly expecting some new hot garbage gameplay style with gimmicks out the ass.
Really fucking crossing my fingers. Haven't enjoyed a new Sonic game since 2011. Come the fuck on, SEGA.
>>344937816
>Haven't enjoyed a new Sonic game since 2011
Well, I mean, there's only been ONE in-house game since then, so that's not much of a statement. Still, I agree.
>>344937805
i wholeheartedly agree. if 06 didnt have such horrible load times id replay it once in a while for the hilarousness of it. the fact that lost world is even in my steam library due to the humble bundle disgusts me.
and colors is my favorite 3d sonic. lost world coming after it broke my heart
>>344938209
I hear what you're saying about Lost Cause but, can you really call Colors a 3D Sonic?... It's a fantastic game, don't get me wrong! It's one of the best Sonic games, period! However, 85% of the game is in 2.5D and the parts that are behind the back are more linear than Unleashed.
>>344938668
that is a good point, and i guess reinforces the fact that sonic's never had a good footing in 3D. i love the adventure titles but do acknowledge that they arent great games.
sometimes i think that sonic team should just give up on 3D gameplay
>>344938878
The only bad mainline Sonic game is 06.
>>344938878
>talking about 3d sonic is bad
>using a gif from a shitty cartoon about the sonic series
Kek
>>344922079
Super has pretty shit animation, I won't deny that, but
>Comparing a key frame from from a movie, to an in-motion frame from a Tv-series.
The most cherry-picked cherry.
>>344917203I'LL PLANT A BOMB IN BLIZZARD'S MAINFRAME
New Sonic fighting game when?
>>344940596
I love Archie's throwback covers.
>>344930667
i neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed it
>pic related, me coming into a Sonic thread
>clicking on it on purpose, knowing there will be people using their personal bias
>feels like everyone in said thread. revolves their life around sonic. yet they come from any bias side. and haven't left the series if they been pissed with it for years/decades
>feels like a normie, looks at game-collection. amazon/ebay wishlist. having diverse taste that isn't strictly sonic or personal bias
>looking back sega's repertoire. people say they need to go back to many of their old ips, even though they probably wouldn't buy them on day-whatever
>thinks about Panzer Dragoon series
>how compelling it feels, like arzach. miyzaki. amano. or dreampunk.
>thinks a new Sonic game should have that type of feeling instead of going back to the classic aesthetic
>people would think i'm trolling classicfans. or just making shit up to piss anyone off
>suggestion isn't cynical tripe. and was thought of in order make the series more appealing without clinging to past merits. or edge ideas. or nintendo bias.
>>344930667
You don't need to make a new timeline. Just say that Generations' Classic Sonic is actually not Modern Sonic's younger self, he's actually from a parallel universe. You could make new games with Classic Sonic without replacing Modern Sonic.
>>After the credits roll, the logo for the game appears and you listen in on a phone call between Dr. Eggman and an unknown voice. The subject matter of this call is an old, abandoned Government project that hasn't been heard of in 50 years.
So, SA2 alternate version?
>>344942418
i'm assuming that would be hinting at the next game being that, yes
>>344938878
I think Sonic in 3D has a lot of potential, especially if they make it physics-based. All they have to do is fire everyone at Sonic Team and put the fans in charge. They're the only ones making good Sonic games anymore.
>>344942418
classic sonic circa generations =/= mega drive comic sonic
>>344942632
>put the fans in charge. They're the only ones making good Sonic games anymore.
>Knowing the shit, fans make. is sob story romhacks with poor fidelity. and the best one (Freedom Planet) is otherwise only considered good by sonic fans, and sonic fans alone.
>>344942632
The fans make decent fangames, keyword FANgames, but nothing is close to professional quality. If you think something like Before/After the Sequel compares to a professional title, then you have brain problems.
>>344943187
Well, of course they don't have professional quality. They don't have professional funding! These people are making fan-made Sonic games with no money and in their spare time.
Imagine, if you will, that these same people were given a professional AAA budget and it was their 9-5 JOB to make a Sonic Game.
CHILI DOGS
>>344942632
>All they have to do is fire everyone at Sonic Team and put the fans in charge.
Every Sonic fan has a different vision of what Sonic games should be like. If you take 1000 fans and give 1 million dollars to every one of them, you will get 1000 different games.
>>344943858
>1000 different Sonic games, at least 25% of which would likely be better than anything that Sonic Team's put out in years.
Sounds like a plan to me!
>>344943503
you must think the classics were made out of miracle work then. the industry works differently then what a bunch of autists obsessed with 2d sonic games. chances are. the game they make would be shit anyway. if the morons were gonna debate what tone of green the grass should be. because releasing games and making them quality throws out personal preferences to form a cohesive image for the game. but sonic fans live on another planet as far as iam concerned
>>344944034
pso2 is better than any game sonic fans could make.
>>344920775
>the Archie characters are OCs, while characters like Shadow, Silver, Blaze, and Rouge aren't, because fuck you
