ITT: games with shit gameplay that get excused by /v/
pic relatednot even a Superfag, RoS a best
>>344905471
>he doesn't play the Wii version
>>344906126
The gameplay is still slow as shit and is still "lock-on and circle the enemy until the die"
>>344905471
get ready for 50 replies boiling down to >muh atmosphere >muh scans >muh feels >muh first person ADVENTURE
>>344905471
Metroid II sucks
>>344905471
Nice post OP
>>344906982
You probably didn't even finish the game, faggot. I preferred the pseudo-linearity and evolutions. That first time you face an Omega without the Screw Attack is a nightmare
>>344906701
Literally the same shit you get from Bungie shills on why they think ODST is good "muh atmosphere".
>>344906654
>gameplay is all about gunfight as this is nintendo's halo killer
this place always manages to surprise me with the new depths of autism it reaches everyday
>>344905471
Yeah that lack of control was pretty weak, even I personally liked. I always saw it as gameplay based on puzzle and exploring before combat, so I gave it a pass.
>>344908087
Moving slow as shit in general is still a bad thing. If you never played a traditional Metroid game you might not understand
>>344907909
You got your nostalgia goggles on bruh, confusing level design, shitty music, extremely repetitive. All the Metroids work the same just with varying health and speed, Omegas get a lightning attack or something. I love the Metroid series but RoS and OtherM are the worst two. Hunters doesn't count.
>>344908328
It's been a while since I busted out my NES copy of Metroid, but I remember taking it slow and deliberate.
>>344907950
feels ruined singleplayer games
>>344908483
I literally finished it early this week. Never played it until this year since I heard to play it after playing the modern titles.
Hit points on different evolutions change, Omegas were fuckhuge (you should know that if you played the game or even played Fusion), level design encourages map drawing, music was fine and even great towards the end
>>344908543
I've never played a Metroid game slowly unless I was in danger of dying. NEStroid may get a pass purely because of it lacking a crouch function making some enemies virtually indestructable until later on
The last great Metroid game was Fusion.
>>344909335
Zero Mission was pretty good atmospherically. It was different and a bit handholdy but was solid
>tries to make a thread about a relevant topic hitting on /v/'s hypocrisy
>/v/ just wants to bitch about Metroid
Faggots, all of you
>>344909278
I've played the game multiple times asshole, stop alluding that I didn't. The game is clunky, exploration is not fun especially before you get space jump. Trying to spider ball everywhere and getting knocked down in the huge rooms is tedious. As far as music goes they did what they could but it's inferior to all the other games except for OtherM I don't remember the music in that one.
>>344905471
>Just an hour ago, I decided to start playing the Prime trilogy again
>Already having a ton of fun just into the Chozo Ruins
Nah OP. Your taste is shit.
>>344910181
You certainly don't sound like you played it that many times. Saying that Omegas had lightning attacks is an extremely blatant of this. While its true that one of the evolutions (Zeta I think) did, the final boss of Fusion was an Omega so I don't know how you could possibly make a mistake like that. Also, why would you play a game multiple times and still hate it?
>>344910414
I play games for the gameplay and Prime's is slow and simplistic as shit. The bosses are a joke as well
>>344905471
you are probably to young to ejoy games with good gameplay
pic semi related
>>344910414
>mfw I booted up Dolphin the other day, started MP3 for the first time in whenever
>my only wiimote is full of fucking battery acid and the buttons don't work
suffering
>>344910727
Metroid II is older than probably all of /v/, fucktard.
>>344910940
he probably never played RoS on a real gameboy
>>344911089
I doubt he even realizes RoS == Metroid II and is just here to project because he's triggered at the thought he might be too young
>>344910710
I played it as a teenager, didn't have anything else to do. The Omegas in II and the one in Fusion are way different from each other, I couldn't remember which evolution had the lightning, but they all take essentially the same strategy because they just fly around erratically.
>>344911467
The only difference is that Omegas in II fly and shoot fire balls (since they're just bigger versions of previous evolution, Gammas) whereas the Omega in Fusion had a paralyzing slash
Not every Metroid has the same strategy. Omegas sit back and shoot fireballs then rush you. You either gtfo of the way or Screw Attack into them to force them into the ground until they back off. You don't do that with any other form
Also,
>teenager
No need to lie, just don't post stupid shit and no one will suspect you of being underage
>>344912054
First of all, I'm 24 dumbass, second, everything about the Omega in Fusion is different, it's one of those unbeatable battles until SA-X comes around, it doesn't fly and you kill it with the ice beam, not missiles. It's also a lot bigger. You're retarded if you think II is better than Prime. They did what they could on the Gameboy but Prime is superior in every aspect.
>>344905471
>RoS a best
What a fucking contrarian. 2 is trash.
>>344905471
You can't be fucking serious.
Here's your (You)
>>344906126
Wii version sucks. The original is much better and polished.
>>344913473
>>344913314
I seriously doubt you've played it. Stop spouting memes.
>>344913392
>slow movement
>lock on and circle the enemy while spamming fire
>>344913602
Yeah, it gets tiresome faster, and you can't comfortably sit down and play the fucking game without waving your arm like an idiot. Also, camera keeps rotating when you don't want it to be.
Classic Controller option would have been amazing.
>>344913602
Not who you're replying to but, the Wii version is missing the charge beam animations on the barrel, water effects and a few other things, they upped the bloom though for some reason.
>>344913864
you can use kb+m to play it you know.
>>344905471
I tried to get into it, played up until the ice boss but haven't touched it since.
Such a good atmosphere but the gameplay is so slow and awkward, plus scanning everything is a pain
>>344913694
>he thinks Metroid Prime is about fast shooting and killing shit
Go back to CoD my child
>>344910773
You know you can just use your mouse, right?
>>344910181
>I've played the game multiple times
>it's not fun
/v/ in a nutshell.
>>344914062
Kb+m is the worst input for videogames but you pretend it's better than a controller
>>344914092
No thanks, I'd rather play the actual Metroid games than the gimp'd halo shit you youngshits think is Metroid
I LOVE MISSION IMPOSSIBLE
>>344914267
Yeah. Tell me, just between us, did you really play it? Because saying "it's not an actual Metroid" makes you sound like a retard.
>>344914267
>Compares the game to Halo while also complaining the combat is lackluster
Your bait is becoming painfully obvious.
>>344914554
Not the same anon, but just saying, Halo is a piece of shit when you put it next to Metroid.
>>344914267
primefags are going to fall for this, just like they always do
>>344914195
I know /v/ bitches too much, Metroid is my favorite vidya series and I guess I was autistic enough to want to play through each at least twice even though II is kind of a slog.
>>344914541
The bosses I played against were Plant Boss, Thardus, and Sheegoth, so however far that was. I dropped it because it was incredibly boring.
>>344914554
Prime 3's intro is literally CE's intro.
>>344906701
he was right
>>344905471
ITT: bait
>>344918662
Nice try
I love Metroid Prime. I think it's a top notch game.
23 DAYS
>>344919446
Meh, it traded the sci-fi horror atmosphere of the other 2D games for the campiness of Zero Mission. Everything else is incredible though
I am playing Metroid Prime for the first time. Just returned to my spaceship after visiting the hall of elders and fighting some ghost chozos.
I dont think the game is as good as 2d metroids.
the game should have wall jumping, running, and more places you can reach by morph ball bomb jumping.
the thermal visor is a great idea
I dont think it is a bad game, but so far it seems like a puzzle game with little replayability to me.
perhaps a third person metroid could have everything the 2d metroids have but in 3d.
it is the metroid prime trilogy verysion on wii u (I am playing it on a crt with component cables in 480I)
>>344908328
the first two metroid games were slow as shit
fuck off back to the sonic fanbase if you want to constantly be moving fast you add ridden mong
>>344920557
The first one was slow due to its hardware. The second one was not nearly that slow and was more on-par with Super than you'd think. It also had a lot more mobility because of morphball jumping and spiderballing along walls while falling.
Fusion and ZM were the best at being fast and having the most mobiliity
>>344920394
Other M could have been amazing in that respect if Sakamoto hadn't jizzed all over it. I'd much rather prefer a third-person Metroid than a first-person.
>>344920873
>Fusion
>Fast
>>344913602
Wii version has no fun speedtech. Casually, it's a lot better, but for someone who's played the game for almost 15 years, the GC version is just more fun.
>>344922916
Yes, and?
>>344920873
Give it a break. Prime has more mobility than any game save for Super. You just don't know about it because you haven't really played that much.
>>344923134
No. Fusion is slow and lacks any kind of momentum to the movement, which made Super so great and fun to play.
>>344923140
Literally no one thinks this but you. No one even thinks that Super has more mobility than ZM or Fusion.
>>344923276
>No one even thinks that Super has more mobility than ZM or Fusion
But it's a fact. Saying otherwise would be lying. But, yes, Prime actually has more movement options than either Fusion or Zero Mission.
>>344923227
having momentum =/= being fast
Plus, that's just blatantly wrong seeing as how there's plenty places in Fusion that you have speedboosting through to get by.
>>344905471
Congrats, here's your most contrarian opinion of the day award
>>344923437
The overall speed of jumping and running in Fusion is painfully slow. Speedboosting does not help remedy this. That's like saying Boost Ball in Prime makes it fast, when it's just a small part of it.
>>344923409
Explain to me how Super has more mobility than ZM/Fusion. Go on, I'll wait.
While you're at it, go ahead and explain to me why walljumping, speedboosting/running, and extended morphball jumping aren't part of Prime? and what replaces those components?
>>344923536
I still have no idea how you think Fusion is slow and you have yet to explain why.
>superfags criticizing prime for being slow when super metroid is the slowest, floatiest metroid game
Super and prime 2 are my favorite games, where did this notion the metroid should be fast come from? Shinespark autists?
where are all these metroid 2 fags coming from
metroid 2 is god awful
its worse than metroid 1, worse than metroid prime pinball, worse than the metroid prime hunters demo that came with the ds, worse than other m
it is hot garbage
>>344923793
>Shinespark autists?
Yes, actually.
>Super and Prime 2 are my favorite games
You have god-tier taste, my nigga.
>>344923752
>Explain to me how Super has more mobility than ZM/Fusion
You can run faster, and the running speed isn't binary. You can't turn on a dime when running full speed since there is actual inertia to your movement, something lacking in ZM and Fusion.
Pretty much anything you can do in Fusion and ZM you can do better in Super.
>I still have no idea how you think Fusion is slow and you have yet to explain why.
Because you're moving slowly. Did you not read that part or are you pretending to be an idiot?
>>344914738
Not even him but this is what Primefags think. I had more fun with the Halo games and 2D Metroids then I did for any Prime. OP is right Prime is not shit as he claims but its's slow as shit. As a FPS it's terrible and the platforming along with combat is shitty as well.
>>344910069
Don't start the thread with b8 then, retard.
>>344923140
>Prime has more mobility than any game save for Super.
What!?
>>344905471
Metroid Prime is the greatest videogame ever created.
>>344923861
There is absolutely nothing wrong with Metroid II. I wish Nintendo had followed its ideas rather than remaking NEStroid via Super.
Also, how the hell is Metroid II so awful when everyone is literally jerking off to AM2R? No one would even want a remake if it wasn't at least an interesting concept.
Go spout memes somewhere else, faggot
>>344924418
Hardly. But, it is very good.
>>344914213
Nice b8
>>344914213
>>344914738
It's actually satisfying to shoot things in Halo.
>>344924016
>You can't turn on a dime when running full speed since there is actual inertia to your movement, something lacking in ZM and Fusion.
Because everyone loves to play as Luigi in SMW right? Fuck that noise, ZM/Fusion had better physics for a reason.
Also, you're literally the only one saying Fusion is slow. No one thinks that but you. Prove evidence or shut the fuck up about already
>>344924442
The whole point is that AM2R is taking one of the most dull Metroid games and remaking it so it's much more engaging and you get to experience the same story but with vastly improved gameplay in every regard.
I played Metroid II, and while it was fun at the time, it's not hard to realize how it got completely eclipsed by almost literally every Metroid game that came after it.
>>344924367
It has more mobility than super since you can actually move in a 3D space.
>>344924709
Compared to any 2D game Prime is quite slow and the platforming is bad. Don't even get me started on how slow the wall jump is in the Prime series compared to the 2D games.
>>344924442
>There is absolutely nothing wrong with Metroid II
There absolutely is. The bland, repeated environments are no fun to explore. Enemy design is pretty poor and there's no real challenge or enjoyment in killing them. Especially bad are the ones that stay on the ground, then fly up and fall down again in a wave like pattern, or the ones that simply fly around in a circle.
>I wish Nintendo had followed its ideas rather than remaking NEStroid via Super.
The ideas of Metroid 2 were all implemented successfully in Super, so what, exactly, are you talking about?
I don't think Metroid 2 is a bad game by any means, but it did some things poorly and Super Metroid improved on everything introduced by it.
>>344924883
Lol what? You can't even move side to side in a 2D game.
>>344924609
>>344924925
All that guy did was upgrade the graphics and add some fluff and A LOT of *lore* and minibosses
The only things lacking in the game were its color scheme and lack of map. The physics were proto-Super but without the shitty inertia.
I like the ideas behind the fluff in AM2R but it lost a lot of atmosphere
Also, the ideas of RoS were completely thrown out in favor of remaking NEStroid. The pseudo-linear progression was gone and so was the hunting of Metroids, both replaced with pain-in-the-ass backtracking. Also, enemy AI in RoS was exactly the same in Super.
>>344924709
That's like saying you'd rather pilot a lunar lander than a NASCAR to get from point A to B to C
>>344925241
>That's like saying you'd rather pilot a lunar lander than a NASCAR to get from point A to B to C
Are you saying you wouldn't?
>>344920394
it's not the first person aspect, it's literally the controller limiting their ability to make the game good.
>>344924596
>Because everyone loves to play as Luigi in SMW right?
I don't think there is any difference when playing as Luigi in SMW, but as long as the level design works with the movement it's fine. I think Super Metroid does this. Besides, it increases the skill ceiling.
>Also, you're literally the only one saying Fusion is slow. No one thinks that but you. Prove evidence or shut the fuck up about already
https://youtu.be/HoGGxSJCH_o?t=32m39s
https://youtu.be/ytISbeAmrDE?t=1h6m21s
Fusion is just slower in general.
>>344925121
Did I say anything about moving side to side, I said the combat is shit, movement is slow even compared to FPS and the platforming is shit.
>>344925660
Ehh, name some good first person games that allow me to go fast/have good mobility? Only one I can think of off the top of my head is Titanfall when you're out of the mech
>>344925980
Is this bait?
>>344925241
>Also, enemy AI in RoS was exactly the same in Super.
No, because the enemies were different. Super had hoppers, for example, that jumped around the floor and ceilings. Those were actually somewhat interesting. There were zebeasians that jumped around, crawled on walls and fired lasers. Metroid 2 had nothing like that. The most interesting enemy except for the Metroids was the one with a face armor that you had to shoot from behind to kill.
>>344925757
>I don't think there is any difference when playing as Luigi in SMW
Might have been thinking of the gba release
>>344925980
Quake, Unreal, Mirror's Edge, Half-Life, Team Fortress.
>>344905471
Controls are not the best but it's still pretty good.
>>344926215
What's wrong with the controls other than that you're used to playing modern FPS games?
>>344926279
That the controls are lacking compared with your average 90s shooter.
>>344926412
How so? The average 90s shooter controlled like Goldeneye 64.
>>344926521
>The average 90s shooter controlled like Goldeneye 64.
t. Consolecuck.
>>344926521
>How so? The average 90s shooter controlled like Goldeneye 64
How fucking old are you?
>>344926698
>Talking about console games
>PC elitist
Every single time. You don't think it's obvious that we're comparing one console FPS control scheme to other console FPS control schemes? Again, this was the standard back then.
>>344913602
>>344926905
fuck off
>>344905471
The main focus of the game is exploration. combat is secondary. The combat being kind of shallow certainly doesn't add to the experience but if you can enjoy the exploration it's a good game overall, imo.
>>344926847
Metroid Prime came after Halo CE.
>>344927350
Normal combat encounters aren't great but the boss battles are still some of the best in the genre.
Prime's biggest flaw are those fucking Chozo ghosts that lock the doors in rooms you've already cleared
>>344927667
>boss battles are still some of the best in the genre
Plant Boss was different but Parasite Queen, Sheegoth, and Thardus were all "lock-on, circle around boss while spamming fire"; pretty boring
>>344928042
I remember Thardus being more involved and complex than that. Sheegoth was more simple but he had a fun gimmick.
Parasite Queen was just a tutorial.
>>344928720
No, Thardus was exactly that except you had to switch visors which added fuckall to the complexity of that battle
>>344927763
How is that a flaw?
>>344928042
The entire Prime series could have these kind of bosses, and I'd be fine with it so long as Quadraxis was still there untouched. Seriously, that battle alone was enough to make Echoes my favorite one of the trilogy.
Also, in general, Prime 2 and Prime 3 have bosses that require a little more than just shoot spamming like Prime does.
>>344928984
>game about exploring and finding shit
>certain rooms will lock you into a tedious fight every time you enter them
How is that not a flaw?
>>344928896
You also had to roll in order to dodge his attacks. Juggling between that, changing the visors and shooting made him more interesting than your average FPS boss battle.
>>344929236
>enemies in rooms shouldn't be allowed to do mischievous things
>especially corrupted phazon spirits
m8 pls
>>344929253
And yet we're still scraping bottom of the barrel as far as boss complexity goes
>>344928984
It hinders from exploration, arguably the most important aspect of these games, by locking you into an area where you have to beat a bunch of enemies that can't be killed all that quickly unless you are already fully suited. Having to go through that crap every time, especially because said rooms were usually ones that required various visits throughout the game, is never fun.
I'd sometimes look for longer routes to go where I wanted to just to avoid those fights. And that's not the kind of crap an exploration game should be doing.
>>344929404
>stop hindering me, alien planet filled with hostile space pirates, species being ravaged by pirates and the slow creep of phazon
you fucking people, go play your walking sims or something.
>>344929375
I am not saying it's the best boss though, Omega Pirate, Flaahgra Meta Ridley, Metroid Prime were all really good bosses.
>>344929763
Not him but I never favored the super-exploration-based games. I'd rather have pseudo-linearity with certain goals in mind like Fusion or even M2
>>344905471
>>344929938
Well fusion is the best 2d.
>>344929763
>It's ok to have repetitive battles that you have to go through a hundred times, it totally doesn't get more fucking boring than walking
Also, I would have been perfectly fine if the fights had been different. But it was the same every fucking time. You couldn't even choose to just ignore them and go out whatever door you wanted to avoid the fight, unlike every other enemy you'd run into except for bosses.
