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do you remember that feeling of having a whole new world to explore
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do you remember that feeling of having a whole new world to explore you got when you played skyrim for the first two weeks?

what other games can give you a similar feel?
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I stopped about two days in because I realized Skyrim is a terrible game overall. Sorry OP.
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>>344852173
>two weeks
you mean two hours
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>>344852173
Yeah I remember it.
Played for like 16 hours straight the first time I go it.

Fable 1 also glued me pretty hard.
WoW back in the day as well.
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Few hours at most since by then you realize how ez-pz everything is. at least waifu mods help
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>>344852173
nah i went back to oblivion, then onto darksouls. lot of fallout 3 & NV inbetween
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Dragon's Dogma, once you get to the major city and are free to explore the rest of the world. There's a nice tension between exploration and danger especially during the night when tougher enemies appear.
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>>344852173
i am really in need of a completly new world to explore and enjoy, i have already consumed the elder scrolls, witcher, dragon age, mass effect baldurs gate and a lot of other universes, i need more to feed my churning furnaces
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>>344852654
>>344852545
>>344852376
>>344852285
don't lie to me
I know you played this shit for at least a month nonstop
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>>344852173
None really. There are no games out there with better open world exploration than Skyrim.

There is Fallout 4 but it has the boring post-apocalyptic feeling, Witcher 3's open world would be much better if everything was condensed and less copy-pasted question mark stuff/quests.
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Arcanum
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>>344852916
Fallout.
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>>344852925
Normie leave. I've literally never touched Skyrim. Shit looks like a bore.
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real life
hahahahahahaha
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>>344853024
>Implying Skyrim released before the level or normality that gaming is now.
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No mans sky will give me that feel

I'm certain of it
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vanilla lotro

literally a goat game
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>>344852980
already done that, i guess its hard to suggest something when you dont know what i have played, but generally speaking i have eaten up all the regular rpgs, now i need something i have missed, perhaps some obscure old thing
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>>344853024
>I only like super hardcore games like memesouls

matched with 2 girls on tinder already that played DANK SOULS and finished it
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>>344853239
Dark Souls 3 was designed for normies, played by many normies.
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>>344853228
STALKER
World of Warcraft
Dragon's Dogma
Original Sin Divinity
Shrek 2
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>>344853228
Try the Suikoden series.
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>le "let's make the map infinitely big, who cares if the depth suffers considerably from it" meme
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Dark Souls when I realised how fucking huge the world was. I think it was at the part of the first hydra, no loading screens or cutscene bullshit, just a huge enemy right there.
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>>344853186
I hope this too, I really want that feeling of isolation from AI sometimes though.
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>>344853228
Stars wars Knights of the old Republic if you go in not knowing much about the game it's an amazing experience also really cheap on steam
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>>344852173
I got that in oblivion. In Skyrim, I attacked a chicken and a town screamed for blood. I knew it was a pile of shit within an hour.
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>yfw you realized every location on the map was either draugrs or those other elf like things
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>>344852173
>tfw 33 hours in Skyrim and never continued since then
This game is boring as hell after visiting the first handful of copypasted locations and I will never finish it.
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>>344853228
Kingdoms of amalur reckoning

Has a rather large world and some fun combat but grindt quests

Also the story behind it is hilarious. Payed for by the state of Rhode island or something and then flopped hard.
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>>344852173
I stopped playing after reaching second town. Game is boring as hell, full of repetetive quests and souless NPC's with the same voice actor and replies.
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>>344852285
This
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>>344854245
How would you know about repetitive quests by the second town

At that point in the game you've probably only done 2 and that's Escape the tutorial and then walk to the second town
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>>344854449
he probably watched a playthrough on jewtube
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>>344853538
>STALKER
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>>344854724
SHUT TYEHFE FUCK UPO UOU FUVCLING SUTPID FUCK
STLAKER IS A 10/10SA GAM3E YOU FUCKING WEEBABO VIKRGHIN FUUUUCK
FUCVKYOUFDKCUFKCUFKLCUFKCYOUFUCKYOU SHUT THE FUCK UYPOAS
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You might want to try stuff like two worlds 2, gothic and risen.
Currently playing nehrim and that seems to also fit, the sequel enderal is supposed to release this month with english voice acting.
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>>344855142
>risen
you might as well try deadly premonition instead. thats a shitty game done well
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>>344853424

>Dark Souls 2 was designed for normies, played by many normies.

ftfy
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>>344854245
So as soon as you reached Whiterun you already know the game is full of repetitive quests, souless npcs with same voice actor and replies, boring , etc.
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>>344854449
>How would you know about repetitive quests by the second town
because he's lying
he played that game until he became the master of some guild, then played with mods and fapped to ass sword sheathes and women with giant testicles. he's saying this to fit in and to get (you)s
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>>344854926
>>344854724
>samefagging this hard
Butthurt that the bandits killed you at the car park?
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Skyrim is literally only good for a few hours before you realize how hilariously shallow the game is.
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>>344852173
>Skyrim was babby's first RPG
You're pitiful because you have shit taste and yet you're lucky because you can't see the wasted potential of the game because of Todd.
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>>344852173
Stalker
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>>344855339
>he thinks stalker is good
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>>344852173
no the YOU ARE THE DRAGONBORN shit really ruined it for me

Oblivion was much better

and Morrowind was better but the graphics and combat were too bad for me to really finish it
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>>344854031
I tried playing this a couple of times but I keep freezing before I even leave the starter area. Pretty sure it was the GOG release, too.
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>>344852173
I remember that feeling with Oblivion.
With Skyrim, I wasn't 14 so I actually had decent taste and could tell the game was a pile of shit that was extremely lazily made.
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Which other open-world non-Bethesda 3D rpg offers more freedom and roleplaying than Skyrim?

I often hear people sayin Skyrim is baby's first rpg. So what are the "hardcore" 3D rpgs?
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>>344852173
>HUGE WORLLDDD YOU CAN CLIMB ANY MOUNTAIN DRAGONNNSS
>reach the capital city of nords the focused faction of the game
>its like 5 huts
this is where the game lost any credibility for me.
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>>344854724
>not liking stalker
Get some taste mioshitter
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You can play Dragon Age: Origins, it is still a fantastic game to me and there is plenty to do and explore
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>>344855451
Wow so you didn't even get past the bandits huh
I feel bad for you man, but atleast I know I will never be so shit at Videogames
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Daggerfall
Morrowind
Oblivion
Fallout 3
Fallout New Vegas
Fallout 4
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>>344855872
Literally a pile of garbage.
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>>344855658
New Vegas
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>>344855451
it is though.
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>>344855761
this guy knows what hes talkin' about
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>>344855339
>>344855451
I only played STALKER once, either the first or second game to come out. All I remember is

1) Ran like shit, graphics were nowhere near impressive enough to justify shitty framerate

2)There was literally zero lead-in, tutorial, or whatever.

I know you guys like to pretend you're all H A R D C O R E or whatever but literally all that happened was that I started out in some linear underground place, walked to the surface, was immediately killed, walked to the surface again, hid like a motherfucker, found out everyone is immediately hostile to you and will pick you off from 500 yards away before you even know what the fuck is going on, then quit.

IN SPITE OF THIS, I'm still curious about the game becuase I see it mentioned every so often in threads like these. Is there some secret to enjoying the game? Is there anything to do but kill-or-be-killed?
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>>344855924
Still Bethesda related. Their engine allows too much things. What about some non-bethesda 3d rpg?
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>>344852173
>do you remember that feeling of having a whole new world to explore you got when you played skyrim for the first two weeks?

You mean the first two hours because after that everything is the same.
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>>344852173
>do you remember that feeling of having a whole new world to explore you got when you played skyrim for the first two weeks?
no i never played skyrim
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>>344855872
>Fallout 4
>Oblivion
Don't play this garbage. Everything else is at the very least decent
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Yeah, I played Skyrim for 120 hours, it's was not a very bad game.
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>>344855872
>fallout 4

ugh never speak of that shit again in my presence
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>>344852173
>bethesda games
None but new vegas
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>>344852905
that game has a small world
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>>344855971
it's a meme game for contrarians, don't bother
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>>344855292
>das2 is literally more complex and has more features than das3
What went wrong?
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>>344852285
I think I play it about as long in terms of days.
Less than 20 hours iirc.
Longer than oblivion though.

Going through a snowy landscape when you don't have to deal with the natural elements broke the immersion for me.
Then beyond that the game didn't have a lot to offer.
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>>344855734
>Liking a bug fest of a game

Have some dignity and demand some quality faggot.
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>>344855971
get a trip so non-autistic people can filter you please
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Well me I THINK Skyrim is normie garbo
Amrite my fellow /v/ians? I mean like, gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Fallout 4 sure was shit rite guis? Rite guis?

I genuinely really fucking hate this place. so many fags are literally saying that hate a game because they hopped onto the HIP 4CHAN COOL KID bandwagon. This site was always cancer, but now it's terminal fucking 7.
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>>344856076
>New Vegas
>A new huge world to explore

Nice bait. It is literally a empty desert with few small towns and random empty cabins.
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>>344855451
AHUS THS FUCK UP
STLKAER IS A 1/0/10 GAME
UFCKYOUFUCKYOUFKCUFUCKYOU
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>>344855971
I played one of the STALKER games, I don't remember which one, but I think it was the one where you're in a corpse truck at the start or something. I played it for a bit but it felt like fucking shit and ran like shit on my computer so I stopped playing it. Played a different one, Call of Pripyat I think, newer computer so it ran okay, I actually played it all the way through and it was pretty fucking fun. Still a bit clunky, but fairly unique and it didn't ruin it for me. It wasn't the greatest game ever or anything.
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>>344856157
that they hate a game*
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>>344855971
>1) Ran like shit, graphics were nowhere near impressive enough to justify shitty framerate
Get a better computer that's not a 15 year old Toshiba Laptop

>2)There was literally zero lead-in, tutorial, or whatever.

The controls are that of a typical FPS, kill yourself

Oh and no STALKER game begins underground so kill yourself twice
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>>344856157
But fallout 4 IS shit, you fucking cuck.

You know what's worse than the Anti-fallout 4 circlejerk?

The "Actually fallout 4 wasn't that bad. anyone else sick of everyone hating on it all the time?" circlejerk full of Bethesda shills
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>>344855986
>No replies
Come the fuck on /v/
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>>344856157
They are just Obsidian fans mad at Bethesda for Fallout. Most of them are delusional fags that don't like any TES game.
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>>344856253
How about you read the thread retard
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>>344852173
Not really the same but killer elite did this for me
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>>344856269
That's untrue. Fallout 4 manages to be a shittier RPG than skyrim. Skyrim was already very simple, but I liked it. Fallout 4 took a huge dump on all Bethesda's previous games. It's LITERALLY borderlands: now with less memes edition
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>>344855305
>fapped to ass sword sheathes

That's a mod? Where do I get it?
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>>344856115
It's complete shit. I got 300 hours in DS ad 60 in ds3 while having a massive 57 minutes in that piece of shit game. I want to like it since I'm a lore faggot, but when I hve to fight 15 guys at once without any strategic options, I just quit. It might not be a bad game, but it's a bad dark souls game.

>inb4 It's a good game but a bad x game meme.
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>>344852173
No OP, because unlike you, I wasn't fucking 12 when the fucking game came out. Fuck.
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>>344855971
Same here but i installed some nice mods to make it look good. Played it. Enjoyed it, until the bugs started to bump. The pinnacle was the savegame bug that couldn't allowed me to advance in the story. Digging for some information found that STALKER could be modded, a lot, but that fucks the game even more. Basially the more modded the worst it gets because the engine limitations, and the more stuff you do in the world the worst until the game sends you to fuck off.

A shame thought, loved the idea.
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WoW and The Witcher 3 will probably give you similar vibes.

Well no longer Wow.
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do you remember that feeling of having a whole new parallel universe to explore you got when you built up speed for two days straight?

what other games can give you a similar feel?
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>>344855971
>I started out in some linear underground place, walked to the surface, was immediately killed
What the fuck have you been playing?

You are told exactly what to do in the beginning of SoC
>fat jew wants you to find nimble
>tells you to ask wolf about him
>wolf tells you bandits have captured nimble
>you can help his men to attack the bandits
>go to wolf's men and attack the bandits with or without them
>rescue nimble
Wew that was hard
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>>344856598
Clash of Clans.
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>>344856420

>but when I hve to fight 15 guys at once without any strategic options

This is a literal get good situation.
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>>344856238
>Get a better computer that's not a 15 year old Toshiba Laptop

This was like ten years ago, dude. Also I remember distinctly that it running like shit was an extremely common complaint.

>The controls are that of a typical FPS

I meant something more along the lines of narrative context, but okay.

>Oh and no STALKER game begins underground

It wasn't underground, exactly, but I'm pretty sure I remember going up a staircase or two and ending up in like a flat grassland or whatever.

>so kill yourself twice

would if I could, m8
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>>344856157
4 is a genuinely bad rpg though otherwise I like most of Bethesda games, shooting and looting in 4 is the best but I have no attachment to that ducking baby at all. They removed any actual sympathy you should have by being voiced. I don't want to play a set character I want to play a character I make my own. 3,NV,Skyrim(I don't understand the hate),and Oblivion are the only Bethesda and Obsidian rpgs I've played from them but 4 is abysmal storywise the side quests in 4 are better than the main story and I'm only 50 hours in otherwise I enjoy it. Atleast we had Neeson and some attachment to him. I don't honestly think I'm going to actually play the main story of 4, gotta find Nick and don't give two shits for Shaun.
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>>344856645
Ughhhh I don't like games telin me wat 2 do. I like fallout 4 were i go and shoot people wherever I want. It's really funy
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>>344856508
>he fell for the complete meme
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>>344852916
Dragon's Dogma
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I got roughly 80 hours out of fallout 4. Its not the rpg i wanted. But its an okay loot&shoot. I also find fallout 4 to be much more stable than the last 3 bethesda rpgs. I give it a solid 6.5/10
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>>344856679
I was easily able to do it, but I basically had to cheese. It was just a huge red flag for me, since Dark souls combat shines 1v1. 1v15 it just becomes tedious. It was the first real encounter I had too.

Also, excuse my horrible spelling, the chicklet keyboard on this laptop is shit.
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>>344856702
Wow looks like you didn't listen to the game and went around like a retard thinking this was Bethesda's Fallout 3
that's why you got killed
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>>344856534
WoW might suck in its current state, but the story-telling is actually much better now.
WoD did that right atleast.
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I know you're in this thread Stalky, stop fucking shiposting you complete autist
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>>344854212
1-button combat.
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WoW: Wrath of the lich king private server

Kalimdor, Eastern kingdoms, Northrend and outland make the perfect map

Better if explored with a bro or 2

Don't give me none of that shitty cataclysm or panda shit
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>>344855658
ESO.
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>>344856951
Stalkyyy is dead tho

/sg/ wouldn't die every few hours if he was alive
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>>344857053
Fucking disgusting abomination

I don't know if I hate ESO or fallout 4 more
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STLALKER IS THE BEST GAME
FUCK, YOU NIGGGERS
FUCKYOUFUCKGUFKCOUYJFUCKYOU
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>>344857086
I saw him on the thread 3 weeks back nigga what are you talking about
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I think I sank about 20 hours into Skyrim before I realized that it was shallow and shitty.

I was really holding out for something like my TES 2-4 experiences to happen and the game blow my mind with its cleverness. I played a while longer than I would've otherwise waiting for that, thinking that it must be in the next town or at the conclusion of the next quest. It just kinda never came.

That was launch though and I got Skyrim + DLC in a humble bundle a while ago. I'm considering modding the fuck out of it and going again.
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Which STALKER is the pretty version?
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>>344857243
none
You gotta get them graphics mods
Get Atmosfear 3 and Absolute Nature 3 for Call of Pripyat tough, that's top Eye Candy and not in the Skyrim vaseline filter way
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No, because even back then I was super jaded with AAA gaming. Fallout 3 was one of the biggest letdowns for me. Like watching an old friend get exhumed, skinned, and paraded around for retards to laugh at. I've been playing PC games since I could read, so I have the classics in mind when I hold gaming standards, not like our less fortunate consolefriends. DCSS is about the only RPG that's deep enough to satiate me today and the devs keep making it worse reeeee, all this derivative overworld disneyland crap has been stale since Oblivion.
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>>344852173
I had that feeling for about 5 hours
Then I wondered how many times I could go into samey dungeons to kill more fucking draugr and I uninstalled it

Seriously, even the fucking thieves guild makes you go kill draugr

fuck Skyrim

Oblivion was the last good Elder Scrolls game
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvGXCisAaR4

HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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>>344852173
You know the remaster is coming soon
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>>344853424

The elitist condescension from people like you is as bad as the SJW infiltration. You are everything wrog with the "gaming culture".
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>All those ways to role play in NV
>Get rid of it for 4

I honestly think NV was ahead of its time. If they weren't restricted to the shitty engine and had more time it would have been the RPG of last gen second to Oblivion and Witcher 2.
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>>344859203
>rpg of the last gen
>not skyrim
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>>344859203
It was the swan song of an almost forgotten era.

F
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I'll never be able to enjoy a Bethesda developed game.

It's QUALITY. Indie games have better animations and mechanics than Bethesda games.

I'm extremely surprised that they're as big as they are.
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Wow generic copy-pasted town
Wow generic dungeon

Wow so cool
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>>344859402
>Bethesdrones

Tell me how Skyrim is a better RPG than NV?

Talking purely vanilla.

Skyrim
>Huh yr the dragonborn
>Huh yr a werewolf now
>Huh sell your soul to the nightingale
>Huh yr the head mage after casting 2 spells
>Huh yr the dark brotherhood are known worldwide

New Vegas:
>You got shot in the head
>Go find him
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No, I didn't play that piece of shit game. Both Morrowind and Oblivion let me play as Bruce Lee, unarmored and unarmed martial arts master, who can also run at very fast amazing hihg speeds and do ninja jumping kicks and shit with his acrobatics.
Casualrim didn't have those skills so I dropped it immediately.
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>>344859737
Also the last mission of the dark brotherhood has you killing the fucking emperor but NOTHING changes. What's the point?

Also the whole war thing was pointless. I didn't want to get involved in that I just wanna join the fighters guild and help people out. I don't wanna sit around a table and have a discussion about who gets what holds. What relevance has this got to a fucking world eater dragon?

The main story in Skyrim is fucking dogshit.
>Dragon attacks you
>Go to whiterun
>Dragon!
>Lol yr the dragonborn now
>Go to this mountain
>Friendly dragon
>Find the blades
>Huh let's find out where the dragons are
>Kill the friendly dragon or not if you're fucking smart
>Go to Ragnarok to fight the BBEG that fights exactly like all the other 100 dragons
>GG
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>>344859402

what does skyrim have that NV doesn't, besides every single character, quest, and dungeon in skyrim being the most boring character, quest, and dungeon in skyrim.
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>>344859402
Skyrim is a fun game, i'm not going to deny that a lot of people enjoyed it

If you are going to judge Skyrim as a game, then it is a good one, i had fun

But if you judge Skyrim as an RPG then sorry, it falls hard on its fucking face. Bethesda still thinks RPG means "Character customization, stats and perks", those are just elements that help with the roleplaying but it is not roleplaying

RPG basicly means "You make the decisions and the world around you will change because of that", things like stats and perks are supposed to indicate or reflect the way your decisions are going to go, say if you have a high speech in NV, then you are obviously going to talk your way out of most situations, or opt for a peaceful solution

All Bethesda games fail to accomplish this, the worst example in my opinion being Fallout 4
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>>344852916
Gothic 3
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>>344856957
Shut up, there's 2 buttons in combat.
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>>344860080
>kill final dragon boss
>dragon invasion has been stopped
>dragons still fly around
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>>344853538
CHEEKI BREEKI COMRADE
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>>344860317
I honestly just turned off the game after that.

After my character was a jack of all trades, master of them all I didn't see a reason to try and create a new character. I wanted to make a necromancer but I couldn't bring myself to play it again.
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>>344860080
Skyrim would have greatly improved they used their pseudoscience.

Currently, being dragonborn is just:

>You're dragonborn
>Why? Because you can absorb dragon souls.
>Why? Because you're dragonborn, of course.


They could have made an epic structure of you being the most normal idiot on the planet and then just getting lucky.

>Get a party of mercs/warriors/companions
>Go dive into a dungeon that requires people to work together and not be greedy, lest they fall for it's traps.
>The dungeon is filled with ancient text as form of easter eggish exposition for the hardcore nerds.
>little by little your party starts dying along the way, till at the very end you need to fight your first dragon by yourself. The is either easy because dragon is malnourished, or just a puzzle boss fight. Or hell, it could be trapped inside and you free it, and you gain an ally that interacts with you in the main quest. (maybe he knows about alduin's return and hates him)

>It was guarding an artifact.
>The artifact is like Death's Soul Lamp, but for dragons. It fuses with you, forming an encrusted soul gem on your chest/belly.
> "screams of the damned" flashback.

>depending on how it plays out, the dragon either lits up and you absorb it, or you get a small exposition from it. "What you do with this power from now on is up to you." (Now that faggot greybeard wont have to speak that shitty line after you defeat alduin.)

It took me 5 seconds to think this up. It is literally this easy to make a decent explanation for why you're dragonborn.
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>>344852173
>"wow finally going to enter the capital city!"
>literally 4 accessible buildings
>dozen people walking around doing nothing
killed the interest tb h
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Speaking of open world games.

I've never played ASS Effect games, with which one i should start first?
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>>344861273
Take a guess
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>>344856157
yeah wow if you have any opinion that differs from the norm youre just jumping on some bandwagon

fuck off
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>>344861273
Mass effect isn't openworld. It's sets aren't bigger than halo sets.

Play 1, and stop there.
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Draugr tombs - the game
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>>344853198
If I start this right now, will I still get that feeling?
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>>344861273
mass effect isn't open world

the hyperextent of what you can do is drive around a couple of fairly empty small planets in mass effect 1 but otherwise it's all questing hubs and linear missions which might require you to just move the ship around the galaxy in order to access them
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I want a game with a large map and plenty of mysterious shit to find. Without a fucking map marker babymodo.
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mgsv desu. gave me the same feels

was hooked on that for a month before everything came crashing down
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