Stealth thread
What sneakan gaems have you been playing lately, /v/?
Dishonored
>tfw stealth games are a dead genre
I'm going through all of the MGS games, playing ones I haven't and replaying the ones I have. Good fucking times, matey
>>344839632
Errrrrrrrr I've startedone Thief (haven't played it in a couple weeks)
>>344842062
>MGS games
>stealth games
This is why the genre is dead.
New Thief. Already beat the original 3
WHY ARE WE WHISPERING, GUYS?
IS THERE A REASON WHY WE'RE WHISPERING?
>>344843846
nice meme
Started a new game in Dishonored but keep getting sidetracked by other things. Kind of want to play some more Thief fan missions but I'll probably get sidetracked from that too.
>>344839632
I played styx las month
Was fun
>>344842003
This is why I don't play stealth games anymore. When you finish the good old ones, you are pretty much done. There are a few good stealth games released after 2010 (Styx, Hitman 2016) but most stealth games nowadays are stealth-action hybrids that don't punish you for being detected.
>>344844270
I liked Styx. Great art style, environments and mostly good infiltration levels. Detection ususally means instant death, on hard anyway. Stuff like enemies often only having 2-3 different faces and voices got annoying, but it's very decent overall.
Stealth is for non-operators.
>>344845904
They're both fun. Also operator games typically have at least some semblance of stealth in them. Playing SWAT 3 right now and it's pretty damn fun.
Remember, stealth means, "DON'T GET SEEN!"
NOBODY BETTER BE TAFFIN' AROUND DOWN HERE
>>344839632
Depends on what you want to consider stealth I suppose.
Would trying to be unseen in ARMA/DayZ count as you move from sniper spot to sniper spot or trying to loot?
>>344839632
Dishonored DLC
is it true that you can import your saves to Dishonored 2?
>>344846638
Gameplay > realism
>ctrl+f
>styx
>4 occurences found
I'm proud of you.
Only thing I really hated about Styx was the forced "fall to death" height. If you're falling for a certain period of time you'd trigger the "falling to death" event. And even if there's floor beneath you, you'll still glitch through it.
Otherwise a really nice stealth game.
Been playing Deus Ex: HR
>just going through the story
>here do this DLC where we take everything you had away from you
>build yourself from the ground up again
t-thanks
HITMAN 2016
P fun with everything offthis is my first time playing a hitman game without a walkthrough so I tried to be as harsh as I can with myself
Still savescum though
>>344846937
it wasn't even that bad, if anything it makes you try new things.
>>344846696
>Tfw switching from DLC to base game
Corvo's blink feels so SHIT compared to Daud's
I finished Dishonored a few days ago and I've moved into Styx, pretty good modern stealth games, going to re run Theif soon. Should be good fun, is there any mods I should grab? Or just go vanilla?
So, do you guys actually do iron mode runs where you stick to whatever happens in your missions, or do you reload your saves like pussy ass faggots every time you're detected?
>>344847630
>Corvo feels so SHIT compared to Daud
ftfy
DLC was so much more fun because Daud actually has an interesting character and is not a mute who gets pushed around by others and bends to their ways.
>>344847862
If you've never played them with the New Dark patch do that. TFix for Thief 1 and TafferPatcher for Thief 2. It updates them for modern systems.
Other than that I can't think of too many mods that aren't just fan missions.
>>344847885
If I want to have no detections for the whole game, then I'll savescum
Otherwise, I take it up the ass
>>344844542
Ground Zeros was okay. TPP sucked, though.
I tried playing Blacklist as was put off by how there was no alert system and guards in each area didn't react to you going loud in previous areas. The missions felt like they belonged in a Ghost Recon game.
Boktai, baby
Currently started playing through Thief 2: The Metal Age.
Not much to say about it. Wish there was a modern version of it.
Sam Fisher games.
I wish someone (NOT UbiSoft) just made a game on a decent engine, with loads more possibilities for stealth.
>>344847580
It isn't as bad as I thought it would be, so far at least.
Its just pretty annoying when you go to stealth through some gas or go to hack something and you just end up failing really badly without the augs you're used to.Will I get my 70 sniper and revolver ammo back when I finish the DLC?
Payday 2. The stealth is very different, but I enjoy it very much, its a very mobile type of stealth. Shame there are so few heists that have fun stealth.
>>344848210
>Payday 2
>The stealth is very different
>its a very mobile type of stealth
>Shame there are so few heists that have fun stealth
>>344848374
in terms of the ratio of loud heists to stealth heists you fucking weeb
>>344847885
I roll with it in the first run then reset at much as I need to ghost the levels in the next playthrough
Games that kill you in 1/2 hits pretty much reload for you 2bh
>>344839731
>>344844214
>>344846696
Dishonored is hardly a stealth game, it's got a detection system and that's about it.
By this logic we can call Uncharted and Far Cry stealth games too, but even those don't give you the ability to teleport behind enemies just to make the stealth that extra bit futile.
>>344848374
Payday 2 is like Assassin's Creed MP in that it would be great if people actually played it stealthily but everyone just rushes in instead. And you kinda need a team that knows what they're doing or be on voice communications.
>>344848595
Far Cry 3 and 4 actually DOES have a stealth system underneath it.
The AI behaves appropriately as AI enemies would in a stealth game - The problem is that your character quickly becomes so powerful that it's made redundant.
>>344848595
Might as well kill this thread then unless people really want to talk about the same 4 games that are 10+ years old. There aren't any stealth games on par with Chaos Theory, Thief 1/2, or the earlier Hitman games. Styx at least has similar mechanics but imo is a pretty mediocre game that could use better execution of what it wants to do.
Stealth is dead and if you don't want to talk about similar games then these threads should just stop being made.
>Buy Thief Gold
>Crashes on training
>Can still play the main game
>No idea what I'm doing
Played Wolfenstein Old Blood last night. It was a bit stealthy.
>>344848471
I wish I could go full ironman on first playthroughs but sometimes I'm like "fuck man that was way too sloppy" and gotta reset.
Been meaning to do Thief Gold and Chaos Theory ironman style.
>>344848902
Yeah, the games are so old that they have issues on modern systems. Using TFix for Thief 1 and TafferPatcher for Thief 2 will fix all issues and bring them up to par compatibility wise with modern games.
Basically someone found the Thief 1, 2, and SS2 source codes on a Dreamcast as they were in the process of being ported to it when LGS went under. Either the guy that found it or someone else used the source code to release a patch fixing the games on modern systems. I don't think they released the source code though, which sucks.
>>344848595
At least you can progress through the entire game without engaging in any combat whatsoever, so it's a step up from anything else recent.
>>344848193
yeah you will
>>344839632
MGSV.
Stealth is great in the game but the amount of gadgets really make the game too easy, too early.
>tfw no modern day stealth game a la thief where you burglarize people's homes for things like jewelery, drugs, firearms and cash
Anyone here played Shadwen? How did that one turn out?
The Dark Mod was just updated to 2.04 yesterday, still haven't tried it though.
>>344849250
Man I'd really like a contemporary Thief.
Pokemon go
>>344849341
Dark Mod is fucking great, the lockpicking is really fun imo.
>>344839632
Mark of the Ninja, enjoyed it quite a bit.
It's 2d stealth so maybe not very appealing. But it does what it does very well.
Friendly reminder MGS games are bad stealth games
btw I'm playing Chaos Theory, still gold
>>344849539
>Friendly reminder MGS games are bad stealth games
They're Tactical Espionage Action games
>>344849349
yeah. a remake of 1/2. why is no one doing this? they work for 10 years on half life but no one cares about thief.
>>344849603
It's shit don't find a excuse, Kojidrone
![header[3].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FCqAS12.jpg "header[3].jpg")
The swindle.
2d stealth game, probably the best version of a stealth I've played. Incredibly difficult with a 1 alarm you're fucked game but you can buy upgrades that makes the game playable, then it keeps rolling by making the higher levels require more money, but you get more money on harder missions etc.
Incredibly janky though and it can infuriate when it fucks up. Very fun though and I would recommend it definitely.
>>344849539
how did MGS become king of the stealth game throne while Splinter Cell was off in the corner, slinking in the shadows, unseen by the masses
>>344849669
Says so right on the box dude
>>344849250
Developers just don't experiment nowadays with different genres. They just play it safe and do what brings in the money.
People who say it was the same in the 90's just don't get it. Things become corrupt/casualized/greedy over time.
So what's some B-level stealth vidya?
Stuff that might've been overlooked or isn't as great as Thief/SC/etc. but still playable
>>344849753
Your mom
>>344849753
Death to Spies 1&2 instantly jumps to mind.
>>344849349
>no handholding
>able to drive around certain neighborhoods and monitor each home to see if they're soft targets
>must take real world things into account such as how well lit the home is at night, people's work schedule, noticing their garbage cans are sitting outside for days on end indicating that they're out of town
>can call bluffs on notices on lawns that state a home has a security alarm system
>some wealthy neighborhoods have security patrols with erratic patrol routes
>patrols can increase if you burgalize too many homes at a regular interval
>name of the game is to think like a scumbag and carefully scope out a home to burgalize
>>344849753
Styx
Probably several stealth games from 6th gen.
>>344849683
Because of "muh story", "muh mecha" n shit. For example nobody cares about Thief games, and yet these are wonderful games.
>>344849753
Sneak king
>>344849885
>end up going bankrupt because you only steal panties
>>344849669
The point was calling it a stealth game at all is something only a grade A bell-end would do
>>344844270
I really wanted to like this game, but the controls felt so clunky that I just couldn't play it for frustration, controls are the #1 most important thing in a stealth game to me.
finished the first splinter cell a couple of weeks ago, should i play the rest, are they on par with the first one?
>be playing Thief deadly shadows
>complete one mission
>check objectives
>nothing new
>realise I have no idea what I'm supposed to do next
>spend hours trying to figure it out
>wonder if I'm dumb, or if game is bugged
>decide to watch playthrough videos to be sure
>they all skip the part of the game where I'm stuck
Then I just gave up. This is the only game I still haven't finished.
>>344850228
Pandora Tomorrow is much like the first, and Chaos Theory is one of the greatest stealth vidya of All Time.
Double Agent is alright (apparently 'last gen' xbox version is superior, both Ubisoft studios developed their own Double Agent and for some reason the A-team got the shittier platform to develop for)
Conviction and Blacklist are whatever.
>>344850228
Hits a peak with Chaos Theory.
Double Agent was a mess
Conviction was more an action game.
Blacklist was kinda fun to ghost but overall too easy, and no Ironside
>>344849539
I disagree. MGS2 is a great game for faster-paced stealth in tight levels. It's just not about that for the whole game, which is unfortunate.
>>344846701
Why not both?. It think it can be done.
>>344850443
did you play the xbox 1 version? it was alright.
>>344850443
Double Agent on original Xbox was a fundamentally different game than the one on 360.
It's a solid title on Xbox HUEG
>>344846638
Loved this pic.
>>344849603
so is deus ex. what kind of stealth game has rocket launchers?
>>344848069
Oh god don't remind me about the new "ghost recon" game. EA ruins stuff because they're greedy and trying to be activision but are too incompetent to pull it off, while ubisoft is just plain incompetent.
Tenchu: Stealh Assassin
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Batman: Arkham City
>>344850710
its hard to make good ai
i think AI just needs to be effective for it to be fun and good
>make noise, they react to noise
>they see you relative to visibility, theyll probably dismiss it or go alert
realistically its impossible to get "realistic" ai because it would be too game breaking
Metro 2033 has some fantasticmoodystealth.
>>344850896
because they let you experience the game as first person shooter instead of a stealth game
>>344848902
>Open task manager
>Find Thief.exe
>right click
>Set CPU affinity to just 1 core
>>344849885
strong story incentive would be nice. was disappointed in gta V when you pay off your debt so soon. figured that'd be the whole story.
>>344851132
Its already set to 1 core.
hiding in plain sight
any more games that offer this?
hitman, assasin's creed and even metal gear solid can offer some of this (mgs3 with the scientist gear and mgs portable ops)
>>344851059
they're not pure stealth. I find it funny when someone criticizes HR/MD for being too "action oriented", when the series has always been like that.
>>344850994
Clever enviornments and solid, varied game mechanics could easily overcome these issues.
You're right, as it stands now, no game would survive realistic, thinking AI.
>>344850994
Well, you could make the AI realistic, but also make the character skillful and resourceful enough to overcome it.
>>344851271
nope, that's it.
>>344850994
sometimes realistic is retarded. people are imperfect.
>>344839632
If downloading Tenchu 1 and 2 for the PS1 counts, those I guess.
>>344851271
There was this Assassins Creed Multiplayer mode in Brotherhood that was pretty cool
>>344851034
I loved that I never could completely figure out.
It would be shit for an action game since you invariably get detected at some point, but for a game like Metro it was perfect.
Last Light was a giant step back with the one-button takedowns that you could perform MID-FUCKING-COMBAT.
>>344851318
>Clever enviornments and solid, varied game mechanics
Meaning? I find it hard to believe that it would be so easy to overcome with such vague concepts.
>>344850735
>>344850782
I only tried the PC version ;_;
>>344843646
Dark Project/Gold or Thi4f?if its the latter you can just put it down
>>344849518
I absolutely adored MotN. 100%:d it. Stealth in 2D can be hard to pull off but man they did great.
>>344850232
That sounds strange. It's probably either a glitch or you walked past an area that would trigger a cutscene.
>>344850443
I haven't played Splinter Cell. Should I start at 1 and work my way up? Or should I just play a select few?
>>344847169
I like the challenges that get increasingly harderuntil the minefield shit then I just stop
>>344848595
Any game where you can play the majority of it without engaging in combat or you have the option of not killing anyone is a stealth game, fuck off with your arbitrary classification bullshit.
>>344851591
honestly Metro 2033 felt too fucking jank for me, the AI was too on edge and I was constantly sent to the shadow realm for the slightest shit
conversely, LL was too easy. just coasting around the shadows and punching people out all day.
>>344851596
not him btw
but to add to the discussion
having
>Clever enviornments and solid, varied game mechanics
would also require you to build some kind of AI that would react to another layer of your mechanics
say you add in the ability to go invisible
add in enemies that have thermals or motion detectors
have wall climbing like spiderman?
add in detectors that can fly or your enemies the ability to fly
>>344848161
Probably never going to happen.
Companies that develop modern setting games want the CoD crowd now.
SC is probably going to be an easy stealth-action hybrid forever. I can't see why any dev would bother making a serious, pure stealth game like Chaos Theory when it could drive away the CoD crybabies.
Does anyone remember the name of that slav mgs clone?
>>344852035
Death to Spies?
>>344851883
>the AI was too on edge
That's exactly what I loved about it.
It worked because it wasn't meant to be a stealth game. You just had the option to give yourself an edge by not going loud right away.
>>344852063
No... it had the same top-down view and eevrything. I played a demo years ago and had to infiltrate some lab in the snow that looked like the camp in The Thing.
>>344850994
doesn't have to be smart to break the game, hell a lot of stealth games would be impossible if the guards had real human peripheral vision
I've got a WiiU, a PS2 and a 2012 laptop. What stealth games should I try? I have played Thief: TDP, Splinter Cell and MGS3.
>>344844270
>get bonus points for going non-lethal
>no way to knock out guards
>>344851728
I'd say play the first Splinter Cell. If you appreciate the mechanics, go for Pandora Tomorrow. Bear in mind these games have a couple forced combat segments, but just deal with it aight it's all good.
Don't pass up Chaos Theory though.
>>344839632
Riddick.
Dark Athena is easy mode tho.
>>344852332
yeah
they just need to be effective, smart or reactive
realism is just unfun to play with
>>344852362
mgs1, dishonored, thiefs except the newest one.
>>344839632
playing hitman: codename 47, wanted to try out the series quite a long time ago, I'm a sucker for stealth, the gunplay is kinda fun too. Overall, it's pretty good.
>>344850128
To me the controls in Styx felt pretty much perfect. There are only a few glitches regarding the wall anchors. Sometimes you just slip off them trying to grab them.
And yes, controls are the most important aspect of a stealth game. You can't be expected to execute elaborate plans if the controls are unreliable and unpredictable. Case in point, pic related.
>Try to turn off lights, jump through glass instead
>Try to jump through glass, vault table instead
>Try to vault table, pick up enemy weapon instead
>Try to pick up weapon, climb wall instead
>Try to climb wall, open door instead
>Try to open door, turn on lights instead
I don't know what it was a few years ago that made all console game devs think that the controller only has one button.
there are no stealth games
>>344852362
Tenchu 1 and 2 , haven't played the rest of the series but I heard Wrath of Heaven for ps2 is great.
>>344848210
>ecm rush
>kill everything
>unless you're on shadow raid in which case either do it solo or hope you don't get retards in the heist
>>344851884
Reminds me of MGSV guard adaptation, a good system in a game that just repeats objectives too much.
Dishonored no powers & hard difficulty mod is top tier stealth.
>>344851728
Honestly, you seem to adore Thief. If you liked Garrett, you'll probably like Sam.
Unfortunately by Blacklist, they said fuck off Michael Ironside (Sam's VA) and made him a jarhead fuck. Not unlike Garrett, who lost Stephen Russel and decided to be fuelled by kleptomania rather than the need to pay his rent.
>>344852959
They kicked David Hayter as well. However, Hayter was a bad voice actor by many accounts and his Snake voice sounded nothing like a real person's speaking voice.
>>344851884
One thing I liked about the stealth in the Batman games was that they actually started catching onto your bullshit and countering it. After a point, the first game's henchmen start boobytrapping the gargoyles you've been abusing so you can't just chill on them and wait for openings. They'll also start getting collars that let all their friends know when you take them out. In the second game, guards start getting thermal googles to spot you on gargoyles, they'll shoot them down if they catch you using them, they get proximity mines they can place down (and that you can reset for your own use), and they can jam your detective vision.
>>344848794
death to spies
>>344853578
When I played GZ, I thought it was Blacklist done right. I think that's the case even for ditching the old VA because Kiefer sounds far better and it's a damn shame that all his lines got cut.
>>344852950
fucking lmao
>>344853578
I agree with you on Hayter. He also acted completely unprofessional on the whole thing, hard to sympathize. But I never grew up on Metal Gear Solid.
And also, they were going to fucking sack David Bateson for Agent 47 before people complained.
>>344853578
>his Snake voice sounded nothing like a real person's speaking voice.
I don't like Metal Gear, but I'd have to argue that Hayter's voice makes more sense when you combine it with a game series that doesn't make any sense. If you try to be serious with something that looks like a Hot Shots -type of parody of anime bullshit, you'll just make things worse. That's why Kojima is such a hack. Everyone is laughing at how dumb the stupid shit he makes is, but he expects it to be taken seriously. No. Just no. Go play with your little Joosten dolls you weirdo.
>>344853847
That's pretty agreeable too.
>>344853814
Do you disagree? Have something to add?
"Installing mods and Intentionally having to gimp yourself don't count" is not an argument.
Which do you find more satisfying:
A. Making your way through an entire level/area without ever being detected by an enemy
B. Stealthily eliminating every enemy in a level/area without alerting any other enemies in the process
>>344853685
Me too. I liked how getting caught would alert the whole base and changed how the guards were spread out. My first playthough of GZ is forever ingrained in my brain.
>Everything goes well until I get Paz and some guards see that she's missing.
>Check idroid
>So many guards between me and the safe extraction zone.
>Decide to call in Morpho to the helipad near the middle of the base
>Put Paz in a corner and get in an APC
>Blow up another APC
>Shoot the AA guns targeting Morpho
>Thin out the guards a little and make a break for it with Paz
>The music and noise of the bullets whizzing around us as we get on the chopper
>The flying away while still under fire
>My face at this point
>>344854006
A for sure.
>>344852752
>Wrath of Heaven
YES
GET THIS
Of Guards And Thieves was fun in beta, not sure if it's still alive or worth it's price now.
>>344854006
I prefer a middle of the road deal that has you using every tool at your disposal to get the job done in a painless way, without ever being detected.
But of the two, A I'd say.
>>344839632
recently finished a perfectionist run of blacklist, stealth kills all the way
![1345308[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3o5PfMT.jpg "1345308[1].jpg")
>>344854731
I imagine you always prefered non lethal loadouts in Splinter Cell Chaos Theory. It's a lot easier to get 100% mission ratings when you have so many silent and nonlethal gadgets.
why did nonlethal become synonymous with stealth games again? i understand remaining undetected but why is knocking out or tranquilizing enemies prevalent in the majority of stealth games
>>344855108
The Grim missions are the most fun, imo.
But it sucks how so many routes are blocked without a co-op partner. Also how you can't do Briggs' missions at all without co-op.
>>344855191
Ghosting means you leave people alive and unaware. If they suddenly fall asleep, they're still unaware.
>>344855191
A non-lethal takedown is always the most silent way to eliminate the opposition.
>>344839632
I started playing Republique, but my hard drive broke and I have to download it again.
>>344855191
Because some games did it, they got popular, and videogames have a real follow the leader approach to design.
>>344855468
It's a tad one-note. Narrative based mobile game, what can you expect?
>>344855468
>my hard drive broke
Hard drives don't just "break".
>>344855296
yeah pretty much, don't wanna try doing briggs missions with randoms, might trigger them for not doing pure ghost play or something
>>344856131
I don't think anyone even plays at this point, either. I tried to do the missions with two controllers, but it's near impossible. I just want to see what the unlockable armor is like.
I've started playing MGS. I find the earlier ones aren't super stealthy and the AI is shit but at least they're still good games. I feel like picking up the thief series again.
>>344856565
none of the MGS games are stealthy
the protagonist gets caught all the time
>>344856261
sucks being the only guy in my group of friends that plays stealth games
>>344849702
This.
I have a stealth fetish.
What are some good stealth games that are worth wasting my life on? I recall someone telling me that the original Splinter Cell trilogy was perfect but the rest of the series is ignorable. I own the MGS Legacy Collection. I'll buy the Splinter Cell HD Collection when I get the chance. What else is out there?
>>344857989
Thief 1, 2 & 3
Splinter Cell Collection
Deus Ex & Human Revolution
Dishonored + DLC
Styx
>>344839632
Is it that bad?
>>344848902
>>344849140
GoG version should work fine
>>344858342
Thanks, anon. I'll look into these.
Posting the obligatory chart
What should be updated
>>344858423
Was this already released? I had my eye on it since I heard it was Death to Spies 3 with a different name. Did it flop?
>>344858575
It's a total flop and it got negative reviews
The original dev also went bankrupt and it was developed by some American team
>>344858567
Is Escape From Butcher Bay actually different in gameplay or is Dark Athena just given a lower tier for the campaign itself?
>>344858567
Dishonored DLC deserves to be in good tier.
>>344858724
Dark athena is just a remake with added weaker campaign
>>344848595
As long as you have a scoring system that encourages stealth(Hitman, MGS etc.), action-stealth hybrids are great
>>344855346
>If they suddenly fall asleep, they're still unaware.
Ghosting means accomplishing the objective in a way that makes it seem very unlikely that an infiltration ever took place. You have a facility full of guards and personnel, none of whom saw a thing. The bank mission of Chaos Theory is the perfect example. You get to ruin the surveillance data in a room with several people constantly occupying it, and you can even hack the servers and plant fake emails to frame the personnel of a robbery conspiracy. Then you steal several million worth of treasury bonds just to mask the fact that you actually were in the vault to access a data server. And because you did it all without harming anyone or being detected, it would be inconcievable that anyone would ever figure out what really happened. That's ghosting.
>>344849518
My biggest problem with it is that it becomes more of a platformer than a stealth game in the second half.
>>344854006
I usually do B in case I'll have to return to that area
>>344858765
Alright, just wanted to make sure it didn't fuck with the core gameplay.
>>344858342
The Tenchu series is also good.
>>344851902
It might sound retarded at first, but IMO Overkill know how to do a good Co-Op game. Might work if they make something with better stealth than PayDay2.
Anyone here think that The Last of Us has good stealth?Me neither.
>>344839632
Payday 2.
If you have people you know aren't shit it can be quite fun for a couple of hours at time.
Except if you are trying the "Car shop" mission on death wish.That mission is a nightmare.
Dishonored, just finished my high chaos playthrough and now I'm doing a medium chaos ghost one
>>344860385
>medium chaos
>>344860535
There's an achievement for it though
>>344860667
i only see one for high and one for low
>>344860817
Oh shit there isn't one, I still want to see how people act if you finish half the missions high and the other half low though
>>344860284
Payday 2 is trash ever since Goonmod stopped working.
>>344861005
i just checked the wiki and apparently there is one, but the only difference it makes is during the final mission. so we were both wrong
>>344861058
Is there not any changes in dialogue?
>>344861132
samuel wont alert the guards but still tells you off at the end
>>344860385
>dashes
>immediately start slashing up the air
>wait to be on the ground to turn around still while slashing the air even though the enemy is clearly far away
you have many things to learn
>>344861032
DLC wise yes.
But if you hack in all that stuff and only play with friends because the game will call you a cheater it can be quite a fun waster.
>>344839632
Take a guess B0ss
>>344860385
>Seven out of Nine healing potions used in one fight
They really should have had potions capacity restrictions depending on difficulty picked.
>Hardest - 3 or so max
>Next one down - 5
>etc etc
I just finished a playthrough of no deaths and no potions allowed (and no bone charm health/mana from water drink).
It was very different.
Planning to do a 'Mostly Flesh and Steel' run in Dishonored, if I kill only the targets do I still get low chaos?
>>344861295
I rarely do any proper fighting, but I fucked up ghost so I was just going spam attack and potion until they killed me, which didn't work
>>344861627
Yes, you can kill quite a lot of people and still get low chaos
>>344861627
>>344861627
>if I kill only the targets do I still get low chaos?
Easily still get low chaos, Low chaos means only about what, 5-15 people killed per mission?
>>344861737
>Yes, you can kill quite a lot of people and still get low chaos
This.
>>344861627
You only get high chaos if you kill 75% of NPCs in the level.
You'll be fine.
>>344861753
I got low chaos with 18 and a civilian earlier, it's pretty silly
>>344861891
it is overall chaos.
i imagine that is why.
>>344861472
That's just for one fight though, if you wanted to just attack and potion spam your way through an entire level you'd need a lot more than nine potions
>>344850009
lost it
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>>344847946
Daud is the real hero of Dishonored
>>344858567
>MGS4
It's just really fucking disappointing.
You have all these great ideas and the trademark TECHNOLOGY but then Kojimbo decides that the games needs to be 50% Cutscene, 25% Bulletsponge Bossfights, 20% Turret Sections and only 5% Stealth gameplay.
>>344862750
At least it's not as bad as V.
The mechanics of V are good, but the level design renders it completely moot. Even Far Cry is better.
>>344862465
>if you wanted to just attack and potion spam your way through an entire level you'd need a lot more than nine potions
Indeed you would
but i do think it is silly that they decided Bolts and bullets would need capacity limitations with pouches and buying upgrades, but then ignored how many potions a player can carry.
When playing normally i put a limit on myself to either only carry about 3 of each elixirs max, or not use potions in combat - usually both.My shitty recording/webm converting came to 7mb, but this is what i would have posted
http://s1.webmshare.com/byx5B.webm
>>344863128http://webmshare.com/byx5B
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>>344863128
Think you'll get to be mod after a post like that?
>>344863128
I don't usually use potions anyway, stealth kills mean there's literally no reason for you to take more damage than food can healEither your link isn't working or my shitty internet can't handle 7mb
>>344863213
more likely banned for being a shitter.
>>344863213
another night, another thread with you
>>344849539
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>>344851059
MGS is a bad stealth game because 3rd person stealth is essentially broken. You can see enemy positions all the time with no risk and you just wait for patrols. In first person you have to lean and take risks analyzing where guards are, sound awareness, and more.
You could also make an argument for shooters too and seeing around corners.
>>344863213
Blow off, choffer.
