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Warcraft
MoP was a good expansion
>>344829196
THIQ
>>344830172
Why do people always complain about how many abilities a class has? Games like GW limit abilities yet had better gameplay than pretty much every MMO
>>344830172
A good chunk of those are press button for 10% more damage for 10 seconds 160 second cd. Aka the most boring buttons ever. Not that WoW is any better.
>>344831570
Isn't the game also dead?
>>344832936
Dying
>>344830237
Pandaren skin for Mei when?
>>344833842
Cute
>>344833842
muh dicc
>>344829196
Pandacraft?
>>344831405
DPS shitters who think their role is hard because they have lots of buttons to press
>>344830172
>picking the talents that give you the least abilities
>>344830136
It was. I joined late into mop, so the content drought wasn't as awful as it really was for me.
>you will never impregnate a pandaren with your human seed
Im not a furfag but my friend convinced me to get the game in the end of Cata, i really don't get why people hate on MoP.
My friend then became a normie and left me alone in WoW though
>>344835929
>you will never have a panda gf
why even live
cant somebody just pretend to be my panda gf already
>>344836210
can't you just date a hairy fat girl
>>344836582
Not the same, pandaren have plump furry tits and ass that are made for breeding
>>344836837
do you want to be my panda gf anon
>>344837727
plz
>>344837990
>>344837727
You could be each other's panda gfs.
>>344838209
or you could be mine
>>344837990
No, I want to be a human with a panda gf
>>344829196
I want to fuck a Qt shemale panda
Furfags.
>>344839102
Yes
I prefer Craft the World
>>344830172
More buttons =/= more depth/fun to gameplay.
>tfw no playable cute girlyboy pandas
fuck blizzard, barashit leave
Is it just me or were the Huojin Pandaren portrayed as retards compared to Tushui? Why would a Pandaren want to join Horde after all that shit that Garrosh pulled, like enslaving their Cubs? Furthermore Ji was portrayed as an idiot that almost destroyed the Wandering Isle, and Jojo Ironfist also sided with Ayla.
>>344840540
Their retardation makes them fit right in with the Horde though.
>>344840786
Where's her underwear?
>>344841532
pandas dont need underwear
>>344842112
Where is her clothes?
>>344842223
Who cares? Thicc panda pussy.
please stop panda posting. It makes me realize Daisy will always be a thing of the past.
>>344842562
Nah, fuck off.
Human on Pandaren is the best romance
![[Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of The Windseeker].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lQ3q63g.jpg "[Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of The Windseeker].jpg")
>>344842562
commencing all wow related shit dump
>>344842889
Pandas are great, wish wows art style wasnt ass
>>344843034
>>344843112
>>344843231
>>344843368
>>344843472
>>344830172
2s GCD
>>344829196
home
>>344843715
this nigga was a fuckin biggo
>>344843826
>>344839102
I recently made a panda and have not played through MoP. I was scared that I chose a name close to this npc. Panic login to check and it's nothing alike. Fucking chink names, I swear.
>>344843968
who here remember /thotbot/
>>344844136
Yee nigga!
>>344844229
>>344844513
>>344844607
WHO HERE REMEMBERS THE MOLTEN CORE!
>>344840786
>Panda joins Alliance
>Wrynn is apologetic but is very firm about no colluding with Huojin
>Challenges you to a fist fight
>You deck the cheeky bastard and he loves you for it
>Ayla is dtf too
>Panda joins Horde
>Orgrimar is for ORCS
>Taurens are okay too I guess
>Ignore the Belfs
>Also kill all Pandaren or we'll kill you
>Now fight for your life in the brawler's pit
>ORGRIMAR IS FOR THE ORCS
>>344844750
Remember that one time Vol'Jin was the leader of the horde?
What a prank
>>344844750
TOO SOON EXECUTUS
>>344845061
>>344845061
>glaive models have been in the game since vanilla
>we still don't have a pair
>all the glaives in legion are shit with horns and glowy shit all over them
fuckking blizzard
>>344845184
I haven't played in awhile but have been reading up on what I missed.
How did/do people react to Archimonde's species being part of the Alliance?
>>344845536
IT'S REAL NIGGA HOURS SMASH DAT MF LIKE BUTTON IF U UP fire fire 100% 100% laughingwhilecryingemoji
>>344845683
Huge analstorm of anal devastated analpain. Then futa draenei happened and people stopped caring.
>>344845536
>this image suggesting Warcraft and WoW died somewhere in the middle of WotLK
Sounds about right.
>>344845683
Makes less sense than playable pandas
>>344846198
Warcraft died with WoW
>>344846198
It was an anniversary event. You know, when everyone and their mom got an onyxian whelpling.
You WERE there for that, right anon?
>>344846298
Yes, obviously I know that, but dates are interpreted based on context, and nobody gives a shit about the anniversary anymore.
>>344846298
TFW I wasn't and missed a QT pet.
>>344845683
>>344846238
Makes more sense than night elves joining the Alliance.
Or Gilneas joining the Alliance for that matter. Funny how the worgen thought they'd have no allies because muh curse, but in actuality their curse was the only reason they got any allies at all, and everyone hated them because Gilneans are just legitimately awful people.
>>344846476
Forces from Gilneas actually traveled to Kalimdor with Jaina according to Warcraft 3 but retcons happened
>>344846416
You can catch one in a pokemon battle right outside Onyxia's lair with the exact same model
>>344845861
isn't thrall still alive?
just useless as a shaman
>>344846620
To be honest, I know.
Not only that but one of those cancerous players obsessed with pets, I caught all the pets you can catch with pet battles and every now and then I buy rare ones at the AH you can't buy.
This is exactly why I'm pissed about not having that pet despite having a perfect lookalike.
>>344846771
No, he's useless as a being. Everything about him is useless since Metzen decided to rape his lore in the attempt of making it cool.
>>344846834
>Everything about him is useless since Metzen decided to rape his lore in the attempt of making it cool.
He's his self-insert, he'll always be relevant
>>344846912
He'll always be a piece of shit is what he'll always be.
>>344846571
It wasn't retconned. That's what the civil war was about. You know, the one that happened right before the worgen starting quests in Cata? Where you go and rescue the one guy who was imprisoned for losing the civil war?
Gilneas started a civil war and exterminated over half its population in an attempt to prevent people from sailing a ship of soldiers to Kalimdor to try and save the fucking world.
Genn didn't even feel bad about it. He was just upset that all his friends turned on him when he threatened to kill/imprison them for trying to SAVE THE FUCKING WORLD.
>>344830172
>2.5 GCD
HAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>344845861
Loth'remar is a pretty cool guy desu.
>>344840102
More buttons = more skill bro git gud hgaha xd
>>344847421
Lor'themar is the reason I don't feel bad playing a BElf as my horde character
>>344847449
>More buttons = more skill bro git gud hgaha xd
>hgaha xd
>xd
But anyway, no. More buttons, or more skills, doesn't actually mean more skill and does not, infact, require you to "git gud".
All you have to do is remember a sequence of buttons to play, sometimes forcing you to bind them in uncomfortable to reach areas of your keyboard, especially if you are left handed.
Which I am.
My whole numpad has been used for keybinding, it was not enough.
I had to bind the arrows nearby, to reach with my thumb.
It was. Not. Enough.
I had to bind shit like delete, end, home, insert and page up and down.
This isn't skill.
Having a skill to use at a specific moment and knowing when to use it is skill. The rotation system is simply a sequence to remember, it's not hard.
>>344847739
I'm mocking the people who think like that family guy
>>344847813
Ah shit, I feel dumb now.
Carry on then.
>>344833842
As soon as possible, please.
>>344847421
Loth'who?
>>344848265
The only horde leader which isn't fucking shit/dead.
>>344848420
Lotherally who though.
>>344848491
Absolutely.
>>344848265
To be fair, it's because of his neutrality and irrelevance that he's the best Horde leader.
>Just wants what's best for his people
>Even considered negotiating with alliance to realign with them
>Elven Hero and badass in his own right
>Didn't even want to be leader
>>344848635
Everyone knows he's just Sylvannas' fuccboi.
>>344848692
Probably, but not after she tried the resurrect his people as the undead..
>>344848635
The idiot considered crawling back to the alliance when he's a spit away from the Undercity, a horde city that would be ready to fuck them over.
I bet Sylvanas wouldn't be all that happy about him backstabbing.
>>344848692
No, he is.
Pic related.
where are the males
>>344848795
Nobody wants to be allied to the fucking Undead
>>344848904
Really? The elves didn't seem to mind when the proud forsaken people saved their ass in the Ghostlands.
>>344848952
>Orb of translocation
>From Undercity's backyard
>To Silvermoon's throne room
Stupid elves are too trusting.
>>344848952
So then why do they want to go back to the Alliance?
>>344849026
Because Garrosh was a fucking mongrel.
>>344849024
To be fair, if they ever decided to backstab the forsaken they would probably remove the orb even before doing so to prevent any teleported assault.
>>344844136
>This is a great sword for a hunter, the strength gives a nice boost for raptor strike and mongoose bite and the sword skill helps with those wing clip dodges :)
>>344848491
yes
>half the thread is panda shit
fucking kill yourselves pandafuckers
objectively worst race
>>344849335
>Holy Cows were a joke
>They became real
>Pandamen were a joke
>They became real
What next?
>>344849429
Every race will have Paladins
>>344849429
worgen shaman
>>344833842
Good lord I need this in my life.
>>344849467
Based undead paladin when?
>>344849429
>What next?
Murloc race.
>>344849595
I wish there was like a thing where Undead Clerics / Paladins could use the Light because they're using the reanimated hand of a Priest or Paladin
>>344849689
Well damn.
But no, forsaken can wield the light themselves, even though it's painful.
>>344849621
There's one quest in Legion that turns you into a murloc to fight lobster-people...it's becoming real.
>>344843034
Goddamn male BElfs are sexy!
These pandas are making my dick rock hard too. Why the fuck does this game have such good assets yet is so shit?
>>344844513
why didnt they fucking fixed that BE starting location to be actuall part of the world in cata? they could fix it, they fucking could, im still fucking mad
>>344830172
the combat system in ff14 is built entirely around having nice animations, and suceeds in that. The only well designed classes in that game are Black Mage and Warrior. Everything else plays like shit. The only original spell in the entirity of 14 is holmgang.
WoW combat is so much more engaging for a number of reasons. Abilitys hit hard in a meaningful way ( Raiton is a sin against god). Suceeding is about wisely banking and spending different kinds of resources and creating synergies in your kit.
Machinist is also one of the most bloated classes, bar arcanist on controller with a bunch of macros to make up for the fact they on a controller. Hunter is in one of the worst spots in legion. They havent even given them Eyes of the Beast back yet.
Compare ninja to legion's enhancement shaman and you'll be done with your pretty class very fast.
Legion is a big step in the right direction in terms of class definition. They achieve it through gameplay, not animations. Demon hunter is not very well designed, but its still better than the class design of 14 where the MOST ICONIC CLASS in final fantasy is LITERALLY JUST A WARLOCK defend this dogshit game more please.
that said the story in havensward going zone to zone was very well done and made me care about characters who were paper thin in ARR and i miss the saucer and the more indepth gathering. Class design and combat made me leave the game. Im suprised they managed to balance the feast, its stunning really
>>344848952
>Preparing to make Sylvanas the Lich Queen and future main baddie
>Fuck it and waifu pander making her Warchief of the Horde
>Bro tier Orcs, Tauren and Troll bending knee to fucking undead
JUST fuck my shit up WoW edition holy fuck...
>>344848491
I want to make human-pandaren hybrids with her!
>>344849335
Sorry Gilneans are playable, so you are wrong.
>>344849954
Just fucking accept it, forsaken master race.
>>344850106
Sylvanas is a cutie
>>344849997
>werewolves somehow being less cool than fat pandas
ahahahaha
reminder that pandafuckers must be rigorously combated or their degenerate ideology will fester
>>344850106
No fuck off, even though I had three main undead characters I refuse to believe the entire Horde would take orders from this two faced bitch. Baine should be Warchief, fuck Metzen.
>>344850283
Baine?
>>344849954
i just came back after 6 years. joined vanilla during naxx patch, left a week into cata launch.
I felt bad for missing stormwind and rolling alliance and not fighting for megabro voljin and now i dont feel bad at all. fucking elf cunt should never be a horde leader.
>>344850275
they dont even have tails, fucking shit
>>344850349
Yes Baine fucking Bloodhoof ANYONE besides the fucking Lich Queen what the fuck?!
>>344850379
I don't even know hoe Vol'jin died...what the fuck did he even have the opportunity of doing? Practically nothing.
Show me your transmogs you closet homosexuals
>>344850183
Sylvanas is god tier waifu, really.
>>344850283
>>344850484
Alright, in a serious, non meme tone now.
I partially agree with you. I main undead, I fanboy over Sylvanas massively and even I agree that Sylvanas doesn't make much sense as the warchief.
However consider this Anon, baine has close to zero experience as a leader, he has close to zero experience in war. He's also young, very young. If you think about it he was just a baby during warcraft 3, there was a quest to rescue him because the harpies kidnapped him or some shit.
Sylvanas on the other hand has... What? Hundreds of years of battle experience?
She was the best general of her race.
The only other horde leader that would make sense as a warchief is the elf leader, but he openly said he doesn't want to do it.
>>344850518
k
>>344850275
It's not that they're werewolves. It's that they're from Gilneas.
Worgen would be the best race in the game if they were from any other human kingdom (and also had models and animations that weren't awful)
>>344850518
i fap to this
>>344850518
you dont have to be gay to appreciate a good mog.
So i haven't really been following legion but i heard a lot of characters are coming back. Is Kael'Thas back this expansion?
>>344849954
Seriously, who is actually okay with Sylvanas being Warchief? Who of the Horde leaders said "Hey, why don't we let this undead cunt who cannot be trusted lead the entire Horde?" It literally makes no sense no matter how you put it.
>>344850869
Isn't Kael-Thas canonically dead?
He does survive BC, but there's literally a quest where you have to bring in his damn head.
>>344850537
Besides the fact Sylvanas is undead the problem is with arthas dead and absorbing all the valkryie ladies in the Foresaken she can easily raise entire armies...and end-wrath, mid-cata perfectly sets her up to be the one to turn off that undead free will switch and make her own Scourge. And now being Warchief what can stop her from going over the boundries? She can start kidnapping from across the horde to make some disgusting crypt monsters or other sick undead things. Garrosh and most of the Horde have a good reason to distrust and hate the undead. Using your enemies remains as a fleshpuppet is wrong and should be left to rest after dying honorably.
>>344850947
You lack foresight.
The fucking legion is coming for us.
You need to have a leader who knows what the fuck she's doing on the field, not some peaceloving hippie faggot tauren.
Put Sylvanas in charge, deal with the legion and then tell her "so long and thanks for all the fish, Sylvanas, but now we want this dude here as a leader, thanks".
>>344850283
>Baine
>>344850993
I wish male pandas werent fat retards. I want to fuck a qt panda boy
>>344850993
can't impregnate a butthole
also elves
>>344851090
>lets put the lich queen up as our warchief
>I'm sure she'll be totally cool with stepping down when this is all over
>>344850993
thank you
>>344851076
And who would you put in charge during a legion invasion? Tell me, who has enough experience on the battlefield to lead the horde in such a time of need?
>>344851090
This would be the Legions...4th invasion? They fucking suck at their job when it comes to Azeroth, I think everyone can manage. Plus I don't think Sylvanas would step down willingly, at least not without a fight.
>>344850993
Elves were made to be cross race cock sleeves.HUMAN'D
>>344851228
Garrosh.:^)
>>344851228
Oh gee whiz we need a grizzled and experienced veteran as our warchief, wonder where we could get one of those
>>344851090
Where the fuck is Lor'themar?
>>344851401
>Make the Horde Great again
>Saurfang 2017
Would prefer him so much more over the fucking Lich Queen.
>>344829196
Play on stormrage vanilla server
>>344851090
>Implying dead slut will want to step down after running the show for a year or two
>>344850537
>you will never snuggle with her cold body on a hot summer day
>>344851401
Not nearly as experienced, compare his experience to the hundreds of years Sylvanas has.
>>344851476
He openly said he does NOT want to lead.
>>344851269
Also this.
>>344851563
If the whole horde is against her being the leader after this, she pretty much has to or we'll have the same shit that happened with Garrosh.
>>344851582
>Sylvanas will never hold your hand.
>Sylvanas will never lower your body temperature during hot summer days
>Mythic guild wants to do 4 runs a week come Legion (effectively me having to say no to this job I'll get)
>Old casual guild 6/13 mythic wants me to come back, and they raid much better nights and two nights a week
wat do
>>344851657
Why do we suddenly need someone with "hundreds of years" of experience? That's a dogshit reason.
>>344851228
>And who would you put in charge during a legion invasion
Most certainly NOT the woman who died and let her home be destroyed the last time she tried to fend off an invasion.
>>344851657
>forgot to censor nipples
Rip in peace anon
>>344851657
Sylvanas is a psycho bitch that should have stayed dead after the Lich King was defeated
>>344851657
>compare his experience to the hundreds of years Sylvanas has.
and compare his odds of starting another scour-I'm sorry-undead campaign against anything living to that Sylvanas has
>>344850947
>>344849954
Fuckin undead should be purged from azeroth
>>344851563
>Sylvanas is top brass, no boundries
>Creates legions of undead en masse
>keeps using "for defense" excuse
>eventually sacred Tauren, orc and Troll burial mounds desecrated and used to summon more undead
>Citizens kidnapped all over kalimdor to be experimented on in undercity which is now completely off limits
>Abiminations and other nasty forsaken made abberations shuffled into cities to add in more "protection"
>Massive civil unrest from the living factions until Legion shenanigans arrive
>>Legion get's BTFO for the nine thousandth time entire Horde and even Alliance politely ask Sylvanas to step down and let another warchief take her place
>Says no and has an army 4× the size of the Scourge behind her
AOLLAA how could this have happened?
>>344851657
>to the hundreds of years Sylvanas has
Yeah, hundreds of years of experience being a living corpse because the one and only time her military ability was tested it ended up with her death.
That goblin fuckface Gallywix is probably more competent than her.
>>344851657
gonna need sauce there bub
>>344851825
Thanks, got that fixed.
>>344851758
Tell me anyone better. Like the elf leader managed to do much against the scourge.
>>344851940
>>eventually sacred Tauren, orc and Troll burial mounds desecrated and used to summon more undead
Only humans and elves can be resurrected like that, and the elf leader already noped when Sylvanas suggested she could do that.
>>344851945
e621
>>344852005
>hurr hurr Sylvanas only ever had one war in her whole life and it was against the scourge
No.
>>344852081
>Tell me anyone better.
We did, you're just putting your hands in your ears and saying you can't hear. Kill yourself
>>344852079
Just go on e621 and look for blood elves.
I don't think there's a whole comic of it though, just a few pages with futa nelves fucking other races to submission.
So we all agree the only acceptable thing blizzard makes is fap-bait, right?
>>344852139
You mentioned a fucking hippie tauren.
A guy who said he doesn't want to lead.
A retarded orc who didn't even manage to take the spot as racial leader for years after his race remained leaderless when Thrall stepped down.
>>344852081
>Implyong she'd tell people once she's incharge. Cata proves Sylvanas is a manipulative, lying two faced bitch, the fuck is gonna stop her once she's the top of the totem pole? Also Gallywix and Saurfang are two much better, experienced and non-fucking crazy canidates for Warchief.
>>344845536
Cairne died the most pointless death in all of WoW.
>>344852350
>Gallywix
Ah, didn't realize you were trolling.
Carry on then.
>>344852426
Fuck off, Gallywix was a savage when he faced off against Garrosh. Sure he's no saint but he's practically like Styx from master of Shadow's.
>>344852308
Lets play a game, loser has the most points.
>times slyvanas demonstrated world ending power and no concern over using it: 1
>everyone else; 0
>>344830136
if ur 12
>>344852081
>Only humans and elves can be resurrected like that
Nope. There's a tauren death knight who was victim to Sylvanas' bullshit.
why cant they make WC4
fuck WoW
fuck Blizzard
>>344852660
I'm gonna need source on that.
Gonna need to know how Sylvanas managed to make a death knight.
>>344852692
Not him but It's from Warcraft Legends and something to do wit the sunwell trilogy.
>>344852678
>Wanting Warcraft 4 after they fistfuck all the lore in the MMO and is all considered canon now
No thanks.
>>344852678
just drop it
>>344852734
Got a name? Anything I can google or look up on wowpedia/wowwiki?
>>344852832
Trag Highmountain
>>344852974
Thanks, I'll look it up.
>>344852678
why cant blizzard make WoW not shit
>>344852426
Gallywix is awful, but literally everything bad about him, Sylvanas is worse.
>untrustworthy
Would you rather put your life in the hands of Gallywix(who will just sell it) or Sylvanas(who will end it and then reanimate you as a mindless slave)?
>most well known for their greatest failure
Gallywix got his ass beat by Thrall.
Sylvanas was killed and reanimated by Arthas.
>leader of a minority race wirh few ties to the Horde
Goblins have always been favored employees of the Horde, and have been working with them for a very long time. It just wasn't until recently that they joined them.
Meanwhile Sylvanas and the Forsaken were mortal enemies of the Horde in life, and still plan on using them and then betraying them even now. They were only allowed to join in the first place because Magatha fucking Grimtotem vouched for them.
Sylvanas is literally the worst possible candidate for warchief. Even Gamon would be a better choice, and he's a fucking Burning Blade supporter.
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7ywjIRa.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>344852974
He wasn't a product of Sylvanas.
>Stated that he couldn't wait to take the fight to the Lich King
>Wasn't even present at ICC
Nice that Blizzard always forgets about the Tauren.
>>344853071
>Baine in the War Crimes book was built up as the next Warchief
>Title was given to Vol'jin
>Now to Sylvanas
What's the point of building up a character and doing absolutely nothing with them.
Is WoW actually a fun game, I've been considering getting it but the whole subscription thing makes me not want to get tit
>>344853173
I'm hoping they're just going to have Sylvanas die and Baine FINALLY step up at the end of Legion when Anduin FINALLY goes paladin mode.
They totally could have done this shit at the end of MoP though
>Have Varian strike the killing blow on Garrosh, but die in the process
>Baine and Anduin step up to lead their factions
>Legion attacks and Anduin goes paladinmode, thereby completing all the precursors to the prophecy and bringing an end to MoP's story arc instead of just throwing the whole thing away for muh TBC nostalgia expansion
>>344849429Murlocs become a playable race.
>>344853352
>Is WoW actually a fun game
Go find a private server for Cata/MoP and see for yourself. Vanilla and BC were a different game entirely with a completely different approach to game design, and Wrath hadn't yet decided on their design goals. It wasn't until MoP that they really figured their shit out, and WoD and Legion are refining that formula.
>Blood elves look manly as fuck in artwork
>Fuccbois ingame
Why is this allowed?
>>344853689
Because the Horde needed a "pretty" race to get people to play that side more.
>>344853554
I heard that the latest expansions were shit and that's why everyone was crying for vanilla servers, will It not matter to me since I never played vanilla?
>>344853404
>when Anduin FINALLY goes paladin mode
Please, Anduin is the biggest faggot on Azeroth.
Also he uses the shadow, paladins are supposed to be too pure for that shit.
>>344853689
Pic related.
>>344853689
The new faces make them look pretty masculine now.
>>344853773
The current expansion is shit, but it's also about to end. Everything would be new to you, so I don't really think it's going to matter one way or another.
>>344853837
>Male looks like a better female
Jesus...why are elves so feminine?
>>344850993
I want toget impregnated by a futa draenei with a thick.
>>344853837
Anduin becoming a paladin has been prophesied since before Azeroth even existed. It's been the Naaru's gameplan since day one. It was the revelation the Naaru made to Velen that convinced him to reject the Legion.
He IS going to become a paladin, and you can bet your ass Varian's death will be a catalyst in that.
>>344853837
I wouldFUCKthat elf
>>344853918
The male or the female?
>>344853910
Didn't know that... They shouldn't have made him use the shadow in this case imo.
>>344853997
Probably theboth of them.
>>344854025
Yeah I feel you.I would too.
BREHS
>>344851657
Hundreds of years of needing help to not lose Silvermoon.
>Orcs invade
>slaughter elves left and right
>burn their trees
>trolls collect their ears
>need humans to help
>arthas invades
>gets to the sunwell no biggie
>land is still scarred from eating undead dick
>>344831405
Because they removed some of the more fun and useful abilites. Volley was great for hunters, but then they removed it.
>>344854113
>burn their trees
But the high elves don't give two shits about trees.
>>344854172
RIP my friend...
>>344853773
Post Cata WoW and Pre Wrath WoW aren't even the same game.
In vanilla you had to worry about shit like weapon speeds and weapon skill and downranking your skills so you wouldn't run out of mana, and every single attribute was important to everyone except warriors and rogues who didn't care for spirit and int. But on the flipside, rotations weren't even a concept, half of your time in combat was spent just waiting for autoattacks because you were OOM/all your skills were on cooldown/you didn't have any useful skills except Aimed Shot.
Nowadays, every class has a fun and engaging rotation, with cool and thematic abilities like Lifebloom and Kill Command and Avenger's Shield. You never sit around just waiting for autoattacks unless you're retarded and play a death knight, and combat in general is just more involved. Players have about twice as many skills as they would have had in vanilla, and nearly all of them are useful, as opposed to vanilla where you were lucky to have more than two abilities worth putting on your bars.
But this came at the cost of dumbing down a lot of the mechanics. Weapon speeds don't matter at all. Weapon skill doesn't even exist anymore. Attributes are basically meaningless. A lot of cool and esoteric abilities like Eyes of the Beast or Sentry Totem were removed for no justifiable reason, and a lot of class flavor has been abandoned in the name of improved balance and gameplay.
>inb4 some clueless wrathbabby tries to say players had more abilities in vanilla than they do in WoD or Legion
>>344831405
Games like GW had a metric fuckton more abilities than WoW or FF14 could dream of
Only the numbers of slots in your action bar was limited
MMOs that aren't the aborted giraffe fetus that is GW2 should have taken this kind of concept, instead of bloating the amount of niche CDs available and multiplying the action bars
>>344854229
Yes but they use them for magic enchantments to wall off intruders. Apart from Arthas having to bust through the front door(s) to reach the sunwell, he also had to burn the forrest and blight the ground all the way through to be able to reach it with his rotting army.
Need a cool mog for my tauren waifu shaman
>>344854381
I just wish they could actually balance the improved combat with having some more RPG in MMORPG, like having stats that actually matter in more ways than "you do your thing better now" for one.
>>344854260
>Burst of Speed is being removed
O-oh.
It's alright. I don't need to cry. I was planning on maining my holy paladin anyway.
I'll just retire my rogue that I leveled as a fishing and pet battling alt purely for that one single ability and then ended up maining because rogues are so much fun. I don't even mind that everything else I liked about rogues is being deleted. This is fine. I am fine.
>>344854735
I only do rp on wow and that skill was so much fun to have.
>TFW you are the best scout because you're so fucking fast you can keep up with a horse and even outrun some.
>>344854684
This.
I like both vanilla and neo WoW, but the one thing that bothers me the most about neo WoW is how pointless stats are, and by extension gear. Gear is fucking boring. It's not exciting to get an upgrade. The only thing to care about is if it maybe looks cool, which it almost never does.
>>344853910
>Varian's death will be a catalyst in that.
>implying Varian is gonna stay dead.
>>344855219
I sure as fuck hope so.
For some reason I just can't stand the guy.
And his in game model looks like he's smelling a turd.
>Sylvanas sympathiser getting BTFO
>MUHH 1000 YEAR OF EXPERIENCE
She has such a fucking strange personality that jumps around constantly. In SoO she wanted to raise corpases of the fallen Belfs and based Lor'Themar had to threaten her to make her not do it. Even later when Vo'jin is crowned as the new Warchief Lor'Themar comments on not trusting her at all.
But for some reason now she wants to see reason and help her people?
Blizzard are really going full out with their new Yrel 2.0
>>344857153
wtf why the shitty censoring
>>344855219
whos expecting them to raise him with the plague
>>344857276
Because SJW
>>344857153
I don't feel like I was BTFO.
Saurfang is a filthy blackrock, not exactly the most trustworthy clan.
>>344857276
>censoring
You keep using that word.jpg
>>344857153
Sylvanas will die this expansion.Just like every other war chief as of late
>>344857537
Implying it's not gonna be "you were destined for something great"-scenario with her akin to Illidan
>>344853773
People have been crying that ever since TBC.
>>344857276
The only thing that I can see is censored is your cerebral function
>>344857537
She dies every expansion
>>344857276
It's not really censoring and more Blizzard just being lazy about the new character they want to make her. People on different forums are cheering on how Sylvanas looks now because she isn't a "slutty character" anymore.
Even though she has always been described as this belf that loved attention for her beauty.
She is getting the same treatment as a bunch of female character have gotten over the years to appease people that know jackshit about the lore. Look at Tyranda. Can't even stick her head out without people going apeshit because Malf said "hush,my love".
>>344857490
Saurfang went through a lot of shit and learned from it. Sylvanas has always showed a ruthless side to her. The only moment where she had some kindness was with the reunion of her sister. But even then she this strange vision of having her sister kill her children and herself and later raise them as undead.
She's not sane by any margin.
Saurfang has lost everything he hold dear and was the leader that was able to combine both factions against the old god C'thuns forces. He has more experience than Sylvannas, that wants to use her own people has arrows.
>>344829196
I've never been one for furshits, but for some reason, Pandaren women turn me on. Never had a THICK fetish before, either. What is it about them that makes me want to breed halflings into every one I see?
>>344857908
>Le falseflagging furry
>>344857953
>le accusing of falseflagging meme
>>344857908
Theres some thing about the breakdown of the face, its the kind of thing you actually find attractive in real women, or at least find cute.
>black eyeliner making their eyes stand out more
>few imperfections, its just black and white
>round features
>hair that doesnt look like they had a fight with a lawnmower
That said though, its obviously furry to like this particular shit, but its the reason you find certain things cute and appealing, its the aesthetic breakdown.
Just wish they werent all fat.
>>344857881
Look Anon. I see your point perfectly.
I do.
I disagree with a few points such as Saurfang having more experience than Sylvanas.
You, or another Anon, pointed out elves being defeated by orcs in the second war and by the scourge in the third.
You don't keep in consideration all the years elves managed to defend themselves though.
When the orcs and the scourge invaded they were a devastating force, the scourge becoming stronger with each single elf they killed, the orcs managed to enslave the red dragons.
Personally, I still think that all considered Sylvanas is a better option.
Opinions. I won't go full meme saying that your opinion is wrong because I honestly think both are valid opinions.
Anyway, Sylvanas will probably die. Either by redeeming herself or becoming a villain, so the problem won't last.
>>344857908
because its the only race in WoW that doesnt look like complete dogshit. Also fluffy hips
>>344857276
Because Metzen's daughter called him out on her design being shitty, so he felt bad and gave her actual armor.
>>344857537
She'll die just so Thrall can be warchief again.
>>344857153i still prefer the original model
>>344859296
Agreed, she kind did actually look like her WC3 model and she had that "Banshee queen" vibe. Her new model looks like she strapped on some kind of wodden/lether corset and called it a day.
But alteast her stomach is covered ;^ ) amIright ?
>>344830172
Love it how WoWfags actually defend this. a game built for consoles takes more skill than a game built for PC.
>>344858951
Anyone but him.
Bloody hell I'd take anyone but him.
Baine rather than Thrall.
>>344859539
>more buttons means more skill
