>Vulkan update
>center gun view added
>id is fixing MP and in charge of all future updates
>SnapMap updates are free
D44M is GOTY
>>344821317
Is it worth it at this price then?
Or wait a few weeks for Quake-Con?
>>344821459
It's on sale on GMG and Amazon super cheap I think
>>344821585
That is GMG.
>>344821459
wait for denuvo to get cracked.
this is NOT a game people will be talking about a year from now.
>>344821459
Oh hell didn't even notice your image, yeah it's worth that price senpai
>>344821317
It was already my GOTY just for the Singleplayer.
>>344821671
Fuck off pirate fag
Vulkan makes it worse for some. Already maxed it out on a GTX 970, but Vulkan makes the game stutter. Went back to OpenGL for now
>970 meme is the problem
It actually happens to a lot of people, mostly Nvidia, including the newer GPUs. Someone needs to get their shit together. But it doesn't matter much, already runs fine on OpenGL.
>>344822317
I think Vulkan is meant for AMD players
>>344822356
No, that's Mantle, which is basically no more. Vulkan is supposed to be better than DX11 for everyone, even Nvidia promotes it. But someone fucked it up for DOOM. Whether it's id or Nvidia not releasing a proper driver.
Still just a boring generic modern shooter in a doom skin.
>>344822470
Also better than OpenGL, of course, which is what Vulkan basically spawned from. Forgot to mention that.
>>344821317
>id is fixing MP
Stop this fucking meme
They're adding a gamemode or two
They're never going to remove loadouts/two weapon limit
>>344822317
980 here.
I got an easy 30fps boost on Nightmare.
It's weird that the results are so inconsistent for people.
Hopefully it can be fixed.
>>344822563
>>344822470
He clearly meant the Vulkan update was inteded to make AMD cards catch up to Nvidia in Doom
Async compute is explicitly disabled for Nvidia cards in Doom
>tfw not sure whether to make my game in WebGL or Vulkan
WebGL feels weird
as fuck to use, but Vulkan is apparently harder and I don't think we'll be seeing native browser support for it anytime soon.
>>344822664
I switched to Vukan and got drops on my 980ti, so I went back to OpenGL and then it ran perfect again
>>344822691
>gaming in a browser
Do it in Vulkan you faggot
>>344822470
anon, sometimes things just don't work perfectly the first release. this is computers.
>SOMEBODY FUCKED IT UP!!!!
no, this is computers.
>>344822614
loadouts/two weapon limit dont really negatively affect the mp because it's designed for it
I am about 110000000% certain they're going to add a classic mode and maps though because why wouldn't you to hype up quake? please think, with your brain.
>>344821671
Oh fuck off, pirating asshole!
>>344822664
Yeah. I'm not worried for DOOM, just hope someone gets their shit together for more intensive games coming up.
It's possible it's CPU related. Mine is an i5 4570. Not exactly top of the line. Maybe Vulkan doesn't like it?
>>344822689
>He clearly meant the Vulkan update was inteded to make AMD cards catch up to Nvidia in Doom
No it's not. id is historically at the forefront of things like this, it's their position as a company. You can bet people like tim willits care about that becuase they know what good marketing it is.
>>344822791
Most of the people dogging the loadouts are retarded, also the maps in the MP are fucking god tier with their layout and design
>>344822908
I had to literally perform black magic and voodoo rituals to get Doom to run on my rig.
Then again, I'm using an i5 with a 5770. No, there weren't any typos in the last sentence.The game ran surprisingly well with just the textures toned down but changing some other settings as well made it quite smooth, if a bit muddy. Its nice to see a game that actually downscales well from time to time.
>>344822791
>loadouts/two weapon limit dont really negatively affect the mp because it's designed for it
MP being designed for it is the entire reason the MP is garbage
>>344822789
Portability is important though.
>>344822791
>I am about 110000000% certain they're going to add a classic mode and maps though because why wouldn't you to hype up quake? please think, with your brain.
Because then you wouldn't buy Quake, you'd just play it in Doom.
They're entirely committed to keeping D44MP as the casual soulless contradictory of old and new that it is
>>344823128
>also the maps in the MP are fucking god tier with their layout and design
not even close. they're just better than what you're used to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFa0yopoeTE this is what you want.
they tried though! they did a pretty good job, I'm not saying they didn't. But the maps are nowhere NEAAAAAAAAAAR quake1, quake3, UT, UT2004 etc
>>344823128
How are the Snapmaps?
The idea seems fun, but is it more Littlebigplanet bad or Mario Maker good?
>>344823096
Then why the second part of my post?
It's the reason several cards perform no better and some even worse
If it wasn't for AMDfags they would have waited until it was fixed before releasing the update
>>344823202
What's wrong with loadouts honestly
>>344823304
that video sucks use this one instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwfUUOmLdMY
still a janked out version of quake but much more authentic
notice that the level is 100% vertical, not has 1 vertical element
notice that the level wraps around on itself in like 8 different ways
>>344823239
Yeah, so use Vulkan.
>>344823304
This
Map design is pointless with nothing on the map to control, >>344823128
>id decide to take time and energy reworking a totally pointless multiplayer aspect instead of making more of the singleplayer content everyone actually wants
>>344823450
What I should have said was being lightweight.
>>344823325
Not even on the level of Timesplitters 1 custom maps.
It's an utter abortion.
Until lately you couldnt even carry more than 2 guns in SP snapmaps
>>344823472
>sailor moon picture
Opinion discarded.
>>344823512
>browsers
>lightweight
>>344823472
Theyre not even reworking it
I don't know why everyone says they are
All they have mentioned are balance changes and a new gamemode or two
>>344823472
>you are a new era "playstation 2 was my first console" kid and don't realize that the SP is actually a horrendous turd while the MP is salvageable
I played maybe 5 hours of SP and 30 hours of MP. The MP really isn't bad whatsoever, everyone here insulted it because you parrot each other.
Honest truth.
>>344823426
Makes the game boring.
Oldschool shooters are about map control and shit.
Now there's nothing to control.
Plus, it makes all the weapons shitty and useless, especially the RL, god what a piece of shit
There's no reason to use anything other than the LG because of its damage output if you use a mouse
>>344823636
I grew up on DOS games.
D44MP is shit.
>>344823685
>Makes the game boring.
>Oldschool shooters are about map control and shit.
>Now there's nothing to control.
see you're actually entirely wrong about this
because a huge percentage of people who were actually good/more committed etc played things like clan arena and RA3, where most of the time you start with ALL THE WEAPONS.
classic fps multiplayer != map control
big misunderstanding that I see here a lot. Yes, map control is part of DEFAULT modes. But not hardcore modes, and that's what people are more interested in now
>>344823636
If PS2 was his first console, your first console must have been Xbox 360
>>344823828
There's way more duel tournaments than clan arena, anon.
>no e-sports
even cod has e-sports
>>344823884
clan arena isn't primarily for duels.
I spent a huge percentage of my quake hours playing threewave capturestrike for q3, yet another popular mode where you start with all weapons
>>344823828
So, where's CA in doom 4 then, faggot?
Now you're just contradicting yourself
>>344823968
Never said it was.
All I said is there's far less pro games of Clan Arena than there are for duels.
Also, threewave CTF traditionally doesn't have you spawn with all weapons.
>>344823472
id didn't even make the multiplayer. This was a single player game with multiplayer tacked on that also happened to be outsourced.
>>344823976
It's actually a mode in DOOM 4 MP you donut
>>344823976
built into the game from launch day.
holy shit. retard.
https://gist.github.com/graphitemaster/e162a24e57379af840d4
what the fuck
why is vulkan so complex
>>344824091
perhaps that's why i said threewave capturestrike you fucking inbred
please don't tell me about threewave since i used to actually know zoid and with the way half of you here worship metroid prime you should probably buy the sweat from my kneecaps on ebay
btw zoid is like the fattest guy of all time
>>344823828
so fucking wrong kill yourself kid.
I would go into rocket arena servers and beat the piss out of the "best" players. Challanged them to 1v1 gx mod and beat the piss out of them there to. Real players good players played dm gx mod etc rocket arena is casual shit its like league of legends compared to dota.
>>344824121
>>344824123
Not the same. You only have your regular loadouts, not all weapons.
>>344824335
>I would go into rocket arena servers and beat the piss out of the "best" players
stopped reading there
>>344821459
I bought it for full price and have beaten it three times now, yes it is worth it. You should make your own decisions though.
>>344821459
I don't think quakecon is going to have a higher sale.
Recall Bethesda are jews
>>344824432
2 weapons is all the weapons you can have. therefore you have all of them.
loadouts are not inherently bad.
>>344821317
>>Vulkan update
>download new drivers
>Enable Vulkan
>Game crashes after loading screen everytime
Another time,or my 660ti is just getting too old.
>>344824450
I mainly played DM/gx mod. When empty I would go to rocket area or other shit.
>>344824558
No, you don't fucking have all of them. You have 2 out of the 10 or so weapons available in MP.
Holy shit you're stupid.
>loadouts are not inherently bad.
Outside of Call of Duty and Battlefield, yes.
Fucking Halo is a deeper MP experience than D44MP
>>344824558
>2 weapons is all the weapons you can have.
Are you seeing the problem here yet? The obvious limitation? No?
>MUH MAP CONTROL
Meanwhile all twitch based shooters are fucking dead and even indie games that emulate that style die because of elitist oldfags who refuse to play them anyway. Everyone fighting for a fucking shotgun or Plasma Rifle sounds like shit
>vulkan update
>can't play the game on *nix
welp
>>344824585
a few cards aren't supported. 660 is one
i imagine they'll extend support to it in a following patch, my 2gb 960 isn't supported either!
>>344824774
>who refuse to play them anyway
as if theres some fucking moral imperitive to play some shit indie game because i used to play a 10000x times better game 20 years ago?
>>344822491
>STOP HAVING FUN!!!
>>344824774
Guess what? Doom 4 MP is also dead
People just don't care about games that aren't Dota, League, Hearthstone, or CS GO in general
>>344825037
They aren't' having fun yo.
>>344823353
>they would have waited until it was fixed
so wait until Volta releases next year?
Is there good Vulkan footage yet?
I don't like the MP because it's too easy and there's no fucking depth.
When you just keep killing people and aren't challenged or starved in any way it's just not fun.
Everyone who plays the game has no fucking idea what they're doing. Nobody picks up armor or health.
At least in Quake you get your ass kicked sometimes
>>344821317
>id is fixing MP
That won't change the fact that it's dead as fuck.
>>344825230
This
I can't stop topping the scoreboard in every round I play
It's like the entire playerbase is just 12 year olds
There's nothing in the game to master whatsoever
I don't even care about muh map control, I just want some kind of challenge other than shooting the other guy faster than he shoots me, because with loadouts and weapon balance that's all there is to do
R9 280X user here. For some reason the movement of the game in Vulkan feels sluggish, even though my FPS reader is always at 60 FPS. When I switched back to OpenGL, the game feels smoother. Anyone encountered the same oddity?
>>344825395
Turn off vsync
Always turn off vsync
Never use vsync
Not even adaptive vsync, I read that AMD cards don't tread adaptive properly on Vulkan
Lurker here, this game is honestly great. I cannot for the life of me understand why /v/ hates it
>>344825395
vsync, turn that garbage off. introduces way more input lag than there should be. this is why freesync/gsync is the future.
>>344825543
can't pirate and there's someone shilling their shitty youtube videos here
most of /v/ that has actually played it likes it
>>344825490
Ah, I see. I'll give it a try. Thanks.
>>344825389
I bet you're one of those faggots who gets the chainsaw or guass cannon and rushes to get the demon rune.
>>344825915
Nope, I only use the gauss cannon to kill demons
LG+SSG otherwise, no reason to use anything else really
>>344825723
>can't pirate
It's been cracked weeks ago anon
>>344826008
>not using PR for that god tier fire rate
>>344826008
>not RL + SSG with hologram
doom is a 6/10
I feel like i could write a book on how they fucked it up at this point...
>>344823178
I'm using an i5 2300 with a 970 with the settings on Ultra, and the game runs beautifully at 60fps with only some minor drops occurring in one of the chapters where there's a large amount of stuff in the draw distance, but that's about the only time I've noticed the drops. I still plan on getting a better cpu though.
>>344826282
I don't like the RL, it's total garbage, no splash radius, shit damage
>>344826282
I always assumed nobody is stupid enough to fall for holograms and never use them.
But I keep forgetting that everybody who plays the MP are total oblivious idiots so maybe I should try it after all
>>344826541
You have to think about when to use them
Nobody's gonna buy a dude running in a straight line unless they have a reason to get there
>>344825681
I always tell my friends this and they think I'm retarded. Maybe their brains just can't register the input lag. It feels sluggish in every game to me. I need a gsync monitor bad.
>>344821317
Have a 280x
runs pretty good in mid settings at 1080 with some framedrops
VULCAN
runs like butter all in high and no framedrops at alleven in the fucking foundry.
magic i tell you, this shit is magic
>>344826541
It's so fucking hilarious to see people fall for it. Especially demons and fags who use snipers in a Doom game.
>>344826457
Get better aim m8. Use the right click to make it explode whenever.
>>344826095
Technically LG has the faster fire rate, it fires a 'shot' at every frame
>>344826765
But I do hit people and that's why I hate it
You nail someone dead on, you're rewarded with total shit damage for it, and if you right click to explode near someone you get like 10 or 13 damage out of it
Better off just popping someone with the SSG and swapping to static rifle or something for that remaining 40hp
Toggling between SSG and Vortex for constant DPS is how you do it senpai
Been playing this into the early hours all by myself. I'm pretty creeped out and got the jumps to be honest. I am such a wimp with monster games. Good fun though!
I can't believe that I am actually getting 60fps on my R9 280x running 3440x1440. Vulkan somehow made it happen.
>>344827643
No
Vortex is the Vortex Rifle
Both SSG and Vortex are single shot guns that do high damage
Anyway you can switch weapons during the reloading period so you can just keep pumping out 40-70 damage shots several times a second
>>344827818
>getting the jumps
>when enemies spawn in from big red particle effects
>after the intercom voice announces they'll be spawning in
>>344828465
not him but DESU i jumped any time i'd turn around and see a baron mid-charge
>>344827818
>all the fucking surprise hell knights that jump out of nowhere on Foundry even with no enemies around
I'm good at that not being startled but fuck m8 that kept getting me
>>344828465
Not always senpai
On Foundry there's some spots where Hell Knights hop over railing out of nowhere locking you in a tight ass spot with them, such as when you're about to open the yellow door
>>344827818
My first playthrough I went in on Ultra-Violence and charged head first into everything without a second thought. Now I turned on Ultra Nightmare and everything is scary.
>>344828828
Ultra Nightmare pisses me off
No amount of preparation will keep you from getting instagibbed by a charged imp or soldier ball from behind that you don't fucking see
