Will Civ 6 be playable at launch?
Well I know what I'm having for lunch hehehehehh
>>344797713
>expecting a Civ game to be playable at launch
>>344797713
>firaxis game
>playable at launch
topkek
>>344797713
No
>>344797875
>wanting to play a civ game at launch
Post yfw the mp is still unstable as shit and wont let you finish games.
>>344797815
Please let them pick someone other than Gustaf II Adolf for Sweden this time. We had more than one king, dammit.
>>344797713
lol
>>344797997
not an argument
>>344797815
yeah I don't think most of those are going to be correct.
stop making shit up
>>344798073
Naw. Just like they will never do anyone else then Bismark for germany.
>>344797815
Oh hey, I was about to make a thread about this.
But as long as you've got this up, I might as well note that it's slightly out of date - France is Catherine de Medici.
First row, we're clearly beginning with THEODORE ROOSEVELT and AMERICA.
Next is definitely An-Nasir Salah ad-Din Yusuf ibn Ayyub, more commonly known as SALADIN, who would definitely head ARABIA as he did in Civ IV.
Third seems to be Moctezuma II, usually spelled MONTEZUMA in Civ and leader of the AZTECS. (He was the Montezuma leading when the Spanish arrived - the one in Civ V was Moctezuma I, who reigned around 60 years prior)
Next is a match for DOM PEDRO II of BRAZIL - returning from his first appearance in the Brave New World expansion. The portrait is from younger days, but it's the same guy.
Last is hard to match, but given the location it's surely QIN SHIHUANGDI of CHINA.
>>344797896
xcom 2 worked fine on launch
>>344797713
5 still isn't entirely playable yet.
>>344798308
Second row starts, though also hard to source, with CLEOPATRA of EGYPT.
Next is certainly VICTORIA of ENGLAND.
In the middle, though, is a surprise- CATHERINE DE MEDICIS of FRANCE. This one eluded positive ID for a while, but the pictures seem to match up! This is her first apperance, and I think she's sure to have a very political game.
Fourth in line seems to clearly be BARBAROSSA of GERMANY. Technically not a newcomer to Civ - he was the male leader in Civ 2!
Last has been defying identification. There's guesses based on its location (Georgia's one, though it's alphabetically before Germany), but no one knows for sure. Do you have a guess?
>>344798401
Third row appears to be another returning leader from Civ IV- PERICLES of GREECE.
Next is beyond all doubt MOHANDAS GANDHI of INDIA, marking his sixth unbroken appearance in the series - to date the only one never to be replaced in the vanilla game!
Beyond him is HOJO TOKIMUNE of JAPAN. We already knew he was in and a matching picture was found.
Then we've got the first newcomer Civ with Mvemba a Nzinga, better known as AFONSO I of the kingdom of KONGO. Sub-Mediterranean Africa seems to always have a new representative in the base game after Civ 1-3's Zulu.
Last is another murky one- given the position and previous Civs, it would fit MONGOLIA, the OTTOMAN empire, or PERSIA, but no one's found a clearly matching picture to my knowledge. Thoughts?
>>344797815
>Trajan
But didn't they confirm Julius Caesar?
>>344798485
Fourth row looks to start with another returning Civ first introduced in Civ V's expansions, but this time it's Queen JADWIGA of POLAND making her debut in the series!
Next up appears to be another first - emperor TRAJAN of ROME. Rome did have a lot of well-documented rulers, so it's not bad for the Caesars to sit this one out!
Third is PETER I (the Great) of RUSSIA, taking the reins from Catherine this go around! Civ IV was his first apperance in the games.
After that is apparently the second series newcomer for the game in TAMYRIS of SCYTHIA (also known Tomyris and other spellings, and more specifically the Massagetae confederation of Scythians, but who's counting?). Fended off Cyrus the Great. Probably going to have to work it like Atilla given how little we know of spoken Scythian.
Last is kind of a head-scratcher - the picture seems to be ISABELLA OF PORTUGAL of SPAIN (despite the name, she never ruled Portugal, despite being in the line for succession- her son used that claim to be King of Portugal, though); wife of Charles V, the Holy Roman Emperor, she was regent of Spain on some occasions and mother of Philip II.
>>344798580
In the last row, there's a pretty disputed picture. Not too surprising, given how common the look and pose was at the time, really, but it seems to most closely match PHILIP II of SPAIN - which, alluding to the previous row, is quite strange if his mother is in the game, too. Confirmation of multiple rulers? Mistaken identification? Something else? There's a list of other ideas, too, though none really seem to fully match.
Last is GILGAMESH of SUMERIA, another returning player.
>>344798485
>Nzinga, better known as AFONSO I of the kingdom of KONGO
It's all based on this image which seems to have 18+4 DLC leader portraits arranged alphabetically by Civ.
>>344797713
Wtf ?
Why is cleopatra not black
I am african american and I find it offensive to white wash my ancestors
>>344798580
Makes no sense to have Isabel of Portugal in the game.
>>344798972
cleopatra was greek
>>344798972
She is black, are you blind?
what are the best civ 5 mods?
Why are the women so repulsive in this game?
>>344798580
The best theory I've seen is that Isabella of Portugal's portrait came up on Google Images when they were grabbing an image of Isabella of Spain to put up.
It's the fifth result.
>>344799346
It's not just the women who look terrible.
>>344799563
But then, with Philip in the game she would be redundant too.
>>344798580
They should use Ossetian for Scythian speech.
>>344800151
It might not be Philip, though. He seems to fit the picture, but there are a lot of rulers of the time with black armor in that pose from a lot of different countries.
>>344797713
>when your dad comes home from a suicide bombing
>>344798060
>mfw I don't play mp and enjoy my own pace
>>344798401
>Do you have a guess?
Last one could be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamar_of_Georgia if it's georgia and they're pushing for female leaders.
>>344797713
What's with her tits? Why are they so droopy and saggy?
Afrocentric Civilization where everyone is black and doesn't have the white-washing history from da wite peeple when?
>>344798485
>Pericles of Greece
>of Greece
>Greece
Fuck we have /his/ for a reason you uneducated nigger faggot piece of shit
>>344801791
hellenic = greek in modern vernacular
sorry
Why the fuck did they make based Roosevelt so fat? He was extremely athletic in his life.
>>344801791
I get that he's Athenian, but the Civ's between Germany and India on the chart. Unless it's going to be the Hellenic League/Republic this time, but Pericles was during the Delian League so that's kind of out imo.
>no native american or scandinavian civ
>instead we get brazil, poland and possibly georgia
What the fuck?
>>344798485
Think C5 might be Ardashir I of Sassanid Persia? I'd rather have Khosrau.
>>344802267
>>no native american
Aztecs are already confirmed
>>344801791
He's of Greece in Civ IV. Blame Firaxis.
>>344802267
Probably not Georgia. Looks like a woman, and the obvious choice would be Queen Tamar. I can't find a statue of her that looks like that.
>>344797713
>that face
>that everything
my dick
>>344802364
I think that's as good a guess as any.
What's the source on all the blurry little thumnnails everyone's matching leaders to?
>>344803089
>>344798793
It's from the new preview video they put out on their channel
>>344803203
Oh damn, well they fucked that up pretty bad eh?
>>344803203
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GXFpBa9kD8
>>344802519
Well consider me triggered
Those tits look heavy af famm
>>344803325
Teddy's voice at 1:57
>specifically say they want True Start maps to be more balanced
>base game looks like this
http://i.imgur.com/uT0POmV.png
Fuck filesize limits.
>>344803661
Wait, not even Zulus are confirmed yet? The fuck?
>>344803753
Zulus haven't been in the base game since III.
>>344803753
The list of pictures we found for what seems to be pictures of the leaders looks to be alphabetical and ends with Sumir.
>>344803661
Roosevelt/USA
Cleopatra/Egypt
Victoria/Britain
Qin Shi Huang/China
Hojo Tokimune/Japan
are the only confirmed civs outside of speculation
>>344798312
the game is still shit, until they remove stock and executions
>>344797713
every working game is playable
>>344803919
This is speculation fueled by official footage, at least.
>>344803203
>>344803203
Now I'm excited. Glad to see they're picking new leaders.
>>344803901
Thanks!
>>344804905
with as many new leaders as there are i wonder if they're going to do "classic rulers" dlc
>>344800841
Fuckin seriously. She has the same weird-ass body type as Sera from Dragon Age.
>>344803919
This Thursday is Bastille Day. If they preview France under Catherine then, this is all confirmed.
>>344802364
I think a LOT of the sassanid shahanshahs have a relief like that, so it could be any of them. It represents the investiture of the emperor, on the right is the previous shahanshah, on the left the new one. The picture is definitely this sort of motiff because it shows the emperor with the right arm raised to grab the cydaris ring. We just have to look into all the available reliefs and figure out which one looks more like the picture.
Here's a good start: http://www.livius.org/sao-sd/sassanids/sassanid-reliefs.html
>>344806005
I wouldn't mind a Sassanid Persian. Persia's been in the base game since 2, as well.
>>344802736
It's between Ger and Gr, can't be Georgia.
>>344806347
I think the odds are likely since it seems to be distinctively this sort of relief. There's a wide array of possibilities between Ko and Po, but I doubt they'd make a game at this point without Persia.
No, at launch it will be below average for a Civ, then after one expansion it will be acceptable. Only after 2 expansions will it be great again.
>>344798660
>Sumer is back
Cool, seemed weird that they were dropped last time.
>>344798073
No you don't
>>344797815
t. Alfonso Barbosa
>Mongolia not planned for base game or the first 4 DLC
what de fug
>>344798485
>Mvemba a Nzinga, better known as AFONSO I
t. Afonso Barbosa
>>344803325
At which moment does the picture show up?
>>344798308
>Saladin
People are going to get buttblasted by this again.
>>344807524
2:50
>>344807686
Thanks. How in the fucking world did you guys catch that?
>>344807882
Going over every frame for possible info, probably.
>England
>Victoria
>Queen of the BRITISH empire
>England
>German queen
>England
amerilard education everyone
>>344797713
I Just hope we have a Canadian.
I don't expect it to be ready at launch.
>>344808437
Which leader would Canada have?
>>344798401
B5 could be Gran Colombia? I can't think of many other countries within this range.
>>344797815
>no south east asians or native north Amercians
a bit surprised, guess they'll be second round DLC unless they go straight for an expansion
>>344808559
le weed man
>>344808559
Diefenbaker
>>344808845
There's always a bunch of them, no doubt they'll be included despite not being on that list. It might also be a tentative list rather than definitive.
>>344798401
Ghana
Goths
Golden Horde
Granada
>>344810925
Golden Horde would simply be Mongols. Granada is possible but it's easier to go with Cordoba or Al-Andalus. Goths is actually possible, but I think they'd still go with something broader. Ghana is a very real possibility. There's also Gran Colombia.
>>344808845
It is a little strange that it's so Eurocentric this time, even if that's Ed's wheelhouse.
I can't see them not doing an expansion, though, and assuming that's Persia on the grid (which would mean that every Civ that's been in every base game since 2 is present), that leaves:
Austria
Byzantium
Celts
Carthage
Denmark/Vikings
(Holy Roman Empire)
Huns
Netherlands
Ottomans
Portugal
Sweden (might already be in the base)
Venice
For series Civs in the general Mediterranean Eurasian sphere.
Mesopotamia's region has had Assyria, Babylon, and Hatti.
So we're looking at
Ethiopia
Inca
Indonesia
Iroquois
Khmer
Korea
Mali
Maya
Mongolia
Morocco
(Polynesia)
Shoshone
Siam
Sioux
Songhai
Zulu
for Civs in the Americas, Africa, and Asia/Oceania that could return.
>>344811703
They're not usually this eurocentric. This is probably not a final list.
No based Hannibal
>>344811961
>Hannibal
>Black
When will this meme die?
>>344798660
I'm not convinced by E1. Both HRE and Sweden don't fall into Spa-Sum. It's a pretty restricted range too. It might be outside of the normal order, but Sumeria fits perfectly the rest, so I'd expect this one to be the same.
>>344797815
What's the source of this blurry image?
>>344812217
It's >>344803325 at 2:50 in the background.
>>344812287
Thanks
>>344811849
Well, remember too that 4 of them are probably the first wave of DLC. Take out 4 of the European Civs from the vanilla game and it looks a bit less. Not sure who won't make the cut, though, especially since Spain seems to be in the base this time. Poland and whomever is E1?
>>344812103
I'm not either, but say it falls in as Spain under Phillip II then there's the oddity of him in with Isabel.
>>344798308
>France - Catherine de Medici
>>344812536
I hope they're not trying to pull Iberian Union as a civ, Portuguese players will be pretty pissed off.
>>344812726
All five of them?
>>344798279
well who else could they choose instead of merkel or hitler
>>344798279
they gave them Frederick that one time
that was cool
>civ without Carthage
>civ without Celts
Who will Rome fight?
>>344798660
Spain and the HRE had the same king in Charles V, you know
>>344813563
Celts and Carthage are normally left for expansion packs.
>>344813640
He knows. I doubt they'd put Charles V for HRE rather than Spain either way.
>>344813640
and king of italy and lord of the netherlands and archduke of austria and duke of burgundy
>>344797815
That isn't Henry the 4th.
France is already accounted for with Catherines di Medici in the B3 Unknown slot.
And if you look, that's clearly not the same image. The blurry version has somehow of a buff red spot on the chest, maybe a cloak over the shoulder or something. Whereas Henry the 4ths image, that same area is a flat black, and smaller.
>>344798660
I think it's this image of Philip II. That white thing is definitely metal. Either way, the guy has more portraits than your average facebook user today.
>>344807584
>that delicous turk butthurt
>>344798401
>CATHERINE DE MEDICIS of FRANCE.
that is so dumb
I feel disrespected and I'm only born in toulouse but consider myself american more than anything
>>344798660
>Sumer is led by a fictional character
Hmmm
>>344814169
Catherine the Medici doesn't seem like a perfect match either though. Anyway, I hope they make her young to be waifu material.
>>344814392
Dido of Carthage sends regards.
>>344814341
Holy shit Philip was packing heat in those pants
>>344814392
Anta full baka?
>no Dandolo yet
oy vey
>>344814506
It's got the collar, the light area that would be the sky framed by the curtain, and the hand on the lap
It's a pretty good match
>>344814506
>Catherine the Medici doesn't seem like a perfect match either though.
Absolutely is, m8.
>>344814689
>tfw no Happy Merchant civ
WHO
>>344814907horse
>>344798660
>>344798580
>>344798485
>>344798401
>>344798308
>>344797815
I don't get it, you are talking about placement and row patterns and shit, is there a pattern to these leaders I'm not seeing?
>>344814907
Statue or portrait? She(?) seems to be wearing yellow clothing, but might be poor lighting. Also it looks like a veil like Isabella's.
>>344815137
see
>>344798793
That's the placement of the pictures on the board at Firaxis, seen in this video
>>344803325
at 2:50
>>344815137
They're ordered alphabetically by nation name. The pattern is letters for lines and numbers for columns.
>>344798719
After the Portuguese landed in present day DRC and Angola they established diplomatic relations with the most powerful groups in the area (mostly so they could establish trading ports in the coast and buy slaves off of them). A lot of the rulers were pretty impressed by the Portuguese's technology and culture so they converted to Catholicism to appease them and took on Christian names.
>>344797713
Her breasts look really odd.
>>344798401
The only real country that can fit into that slot is Ghana.
If you go by Empire names it could be Ghana, Goguryeo, Georgian, Gorkha or Golden Horde.
>>344798312
>xcom 2 worked fine on launch
were you playing it on ultra low settings anon or did you ignore the shit tier performance?
Why are they trying so hard to pick "unexpected" rulers? Teddy is all well and good, but how do you pick Catherine de Medici over Napoleon or Louis XIV? Or "Literal Who" Triforce-san over Emperor Meiji, Tokugawa Ieyasu, or Oda Nobunaga?
Also, if Germany is represented by a Holy Roman Emperor, does that mean no Holy Rome?
>>344815668
My rig ran it fine. Get off your toaster and upgrade.
>>344815629
It'd be a huge long-shot, but with tribe/nation names, they could have the Goshute, too (though they're really a smaller branch of the Shoshone)
>>344815629
Goguryeo would just be Korea for a more practical name.
>>344815892
980 isn't toaster tier nigga, if most people with higher end PC's than mine had problems running it then you know something was up
>>344814907
Greco-Bactria ruled by Demetrius.
>>344815773
catherine de medici is a crime against the french, almost as bad as shoehorning in Maria the Mad of Portugal JUST BECAUSE she's a girl, even though she was literally called Maria the Mad for a reason.
literally anyone would be better than Catherine however, she did nothing of major consequence that was good. this seems to me another shoehorned female leader when there's so many good French leaders.
Also the Jap is fair enough, at least he was a decent leader in some regard. emperor meiji would've been better though.
>>344814907
Looks like traditional arab clothing to me.
>>344814583
>>344816293
The problem is this list is alphabetical.
Try to find an Arab nation, notable group or empire with a name that falls between Ge and Gr
>>344814907
Grand-Duchy of Lithuania.
>>344815773
For one they want "leaders with personality", I guess, so you could have Catherine being all Machiavellian and Hojo being... very polite and proper and not as warlike as the Sengoku leaders? You got mean.
For another, let's assume they actually want to sell alternate leaders (either DLC or expansion)- which do you suppose is an easier casual sale, "Get Queen Elizabeth, George Washington, Napoleon Bonaparte, Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, and King Ramesses II Leader Pack", or "Get Pericles, Hojo Tokimune, Theodore Roosevelt, Queen Jadwiga, and Catherine de Medici Leader Pack"?
>>344816514
Ghassanids.
>>344816563
See
>>344816514
Lithuania isn't between Ge and Gr
>>344803661
it's not gonna happen unless they shrink america and blow up europe to give each country equal space.
>>344816514
For extra broadness consider the possibility Greece has become "Hellenes" or whatever the fuck. It's a long shot I know.
>>344816885
I was thinking about that now, or the Delian League, but "Greece" just fits like a glove.
>>344816282
The Japanese abilities are "Divine Wind" and "Meiji Restoration".
They decided to give the leader spot to the guy who lucked into a hurricane.
>>344797713
>Still no Finland.
In to the trash.
Instead of Napolean and Louis the XIV, they should have went with the Spiderking. With french specializing in use of spies.
>Barbarossa of Francia of the East
>Gallic Empire
>>344817331
Don't worry, Finland is in as part of Sweden.
I really hope each of the leaders gets their own ability and unrestricted leaders makes a return
>>344817331
Play as Russia or Sweden. You are a bastard sin of theirs anyway.
>>344814907
Either Ghana or Gran Colombia. And since that doesn't look like Simon Bolivar, it's Ghana.
>>344811961
>>344812034
LOL Hannibal was closer to being Jew than Black
>>344817969
The one thing that makes me think they won't have unrestricted leaders is that Teddy Roosevelt says "Welcome to the United States of America" in the video at around 1:56.
>>344803325
But they could just as easily have some generic lines recorded in case, so I can't discount the possibility yet.
>>344814907
Alptigin of the Ghaznavid dynasty.
>>344818848
>Ghaznavid
They would definitely be "Persia" or "Iran"
>>344814907
Virgin Mary of Galilee.
>>344802515
He wants like Sitting Bull or Hin-Mah-Too-Yah-Let-Kekt aka Chief Joseph
What are your dream civs and leaders, /v/?
>>344819615
Seleucus I of Asia.
>>344814907
We have to think outside the box. It's not the name of a state. It may be something like "Celts" rather than the name of a country/state.
>>344819897
Gökturks
>>344811961
>biggest fuck up in their military over its founder
>>344819615
Hitler of Germany
30% production when building military units in times of war
>>344814907
That headpiece looks like something a queen wears.
>>344814907
could be a full body shot of some ghana ruler with their skin color bled out tbqh, or even a NA tribal chief. what fuck off tribe in the US begins with g?
>>344819615
Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines.
Halfway through the game all your cities revolt and throw you out. Then you die in Guam or some shit hole island.
>>344817331
>You will never play as Marshal Mannerheim
>>344816282
>Some historians have excused Catherine from blame for the worst decisions of the crown, though evidence for her ruthlessness can be found in her letters.[3] In practice, her authority was always limited by the effects of the civil wars. Her policies, therefore, may be seen as desperate measures to keep the Valois monarchy on the throne at all costs, and her patronage of the arts as an attempt to glorify a monarchy whose prestige was in steep decline.[4] Without Catherine, it is unlikely that her sons would have remained in power.[5] The years in which they reigned have been called "the age of Catherine de' Medici".[6] According to one of her biographers Mark Strage, Catherine was the most powerful woman in sixteenth-century Europe.[7]
>>344820504
Looks too tridimensional not to be a statue too. I donmt think there is any statue of a king from Ghana that is at least somewhat realistic looking.
>>344821415
Looks to me like some dame looking to the right. Can you find any statues which used color and evidence of their color still remains to this day?
>>344820520
From http://www.native-languages.org/languages.htm
Gabrielino, Gae, Galibi, Galice, Garifuna, Gitxsan (Gitksan), Gosiute (Goshute), Grand Ronde, Grigra, Gros Ventre, Guarani, Guarijio, Gulf, Gwich'in (Gwichin, Gwitchin)
Some of those seem to just be language groups and not proper tribes, but I didn't feel like paring it down and none of them really seem to be the scale of a Civ.
>>344821594
Could be something like bronze for the clothing.
>>344821806
Wouldn't be the case, statues in those times are made entirely of one material and then typically painted.
>>344819615
France: Louis XIV
Rome: Julius Caesar
China: Qin Shi Huang
Russia: Peter I
England: Victoria
Holy Rome: Charlemagne
Japan: Emperor Meiji
America: FDR
Egypt: Ramses II
Aztecs: Montezuma
Papal States: Alexander VI
Germany: Bismark
Carthage: Hannibal
Israel: Solomon
>>344821752
I can't find any sizable tribe that is within Ger-Gre.
>>344816261
I don't know anon, but my 390 ran it just fine.
>>344798308
>A Kurd who ruled over Egypt is the leader of Arabia
Shit
>>344797713
no.
>>344822926
blame civ 4
>>344822926
Got three nations represented there.
>>344820539
increased production
increased unhappiness
>>344814907
that's it
it's literally the ghost civilization
with a ghost leader
