>Nintendo’s insistence on only releasing games on its own hardware means that the company is able to carefully craft wonderful, inventive experiences, but it also limits the potential audience. And now we have an idea of just how big that audience is thanks to Pokémon Go, the company’s most important release of 2016.
>I’m not suggesting that Nintendo stop making its own hardware. There are certain kinds of games — the ones the company is best at — that just wouldn’t work on a phone. But the sudden, rapid success of Pokémon Go shows that there’s a pent-up demand for these experiences; there are millions of people who want to play a Pokémon game but don’t necessarily want to buy a device dedicated to that purpose. The same is almost certainly true for Mario, Zelda, and any number of other Nintendo franchises, including new ones like Splatoon.
>With its long-awaited foray into mobile, Nintendo’s plan has always been to find a brand new audience, one that it could then lure to its dedicated gaming devices. But with Pokémon Go, Nintendo isn’t just reaching out to new players who may have never played a console game before, the company is also helping lapsed fans rediscover their love for the franchise. It turns out that’s a pretty potent combination.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/11/12149122/pokemon-go-niantic-nintendo-franchise-hardware
Do you agree?
How much do you get for posting this? Is it by the post or hour?
That's the most bland, safe opinion possible and the only conceivable reason you would post this is you're being paid to.
For Pokemon, yeah, there's nothing it needs that you couldn't do a a phone. Mario and Zelda? Fuck the fuck off out of there.
>>344761268
It doesn't matter. Whatever Nintendo does they will sell. Always. They could put a turd on wheels launching pokeballs and call it PokeCart and it would still sell a bazillion copies
>>344761268
Yet archaic old Nintendo still sees itself as a hardware company. Come on, Nintendo, it's time to join the 21st century. Sony and MS have won. Go third party.
100%. The fact of the matter is, casuals/kids will always get the device that's cheapest and best overall, and they're the biggest market out there. The Wii U/3DS just aren't worth the money invested for the play back you get, especially given no third party support and games still being expensive years after release. Versus XBone/PS4. This could easily be solved by Nintendo just having competent hardware so you got third party games too. But this simple solution is to much for Nintendo.
Yeah. There are a few Wii U Nintendo games that I'd enjoy playing but I'm not buying their shitty DOA system with no third party support just for them.
>>344761538
Pokemon Shuffle on phones was shut down, I believe.
Now that the dust has settled can we all agree that Nintendo is better off going mobile/third party?
Pokemon GO is more successful than the entire WIi U library combined. That sp[eaks volumes for the potential that Nintendo has beyond their borders.
>>344761268
metroid would actually sell really well if it were on playstation and xbox
>>344761268
I agree and I hope they make more mobile games. Some of them are perfect for it like Mario Party, Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem
everbody knows that, but I prefer nintendo games on nintendo platforms in the end. There's something a bit more enjoyable about using a 3DS than a cellphone even if it limits the amount of people who can play.
>>344761712
The dust is literally still choking children in the air.
Give it another month or so to settle
THE EASY SOLUTION
IS TO SIMPLY PUT MORE MONEY INTO MARKETING THEIR HARDWARE
I'm not reading all that shit. People buy PS4 because it's popular, not for the specs and not for the games. They do it because of marketing. That is literally all Nintendo needs, but they hate spending money so they won't do it.
>it's a stealth "Nintendo should go 3rd party" episode
>>344761268
Pretty much yeah, probly would have bought some pokemon/mario/zelda game if it didnt require me to buy a ds or something
>>344761594
Nope
>>344761839
it's a meme, buddy
Smartphones are the future
rip gaming
>>344761867
Sorry but its true. Their hardware sucks and only makes them ruin their software with gimmicks.
>>344761268
Pokemon games were on mobile before Pokemon GO existed.
Journalists are total retards.
>>344761858
>IS TO SIMPLY PUT MORE MONEY INTO MARKETING THEIR HARDWARE
PS4 has power to back it up though, and third parties. Try selling a Wii U to your average casual/dudebro with no CoD/FIfa and last gen graphics.
I just want Nintendo to start taking better care of their IPs. Hopefully this is a wakeup call to them in that regard.
>>344762052
The Wii U is gen 8 period. It has gen 8 graphics.
>>344761594
Shufflefag here. Nope still going strong. Hoopa was just added and there are a shit ton of special events every week.
>>344761268
>But the sudden, rapid success of Pokémon Go shows that there’s a pent-up demand for these experiences; there are millions of people who want to play a Pokémon game but don’t necessarily want to buy a device dedicated to that purpose.
Then you don't get to play it, it's that simple. I want the security Apple provides for my data, but I'm not willing to shell out $600 for a new phone, so I don't get the security that I'd prefer to have for my data.
>>344762130
It isn't.
>>344761268
>>>344761268
>They could put a turd on wheels launching pokeballs and call it PokeCart and it would still sell a bazillion copies.
Not gonna lie, I would totally buy a Pokemon racing game even if it doesn't feature mukk as a playable character for the "turd on wheels" idea.
Why the fuck haven't Nintendo gone software only already? Literally none of the risks of hardware development, their potential audience would skyrocket, and they could make their failing brands relevant again. Nintendo are small minded as fuck and need to realise it's not 2006 anymore, it's like they're stuck 10 years in the past permanently
>>344761268
be successful that's fine do this nintendo get the wider market do some weirder things that don't cost 60-80 dollars plus hardware
how about if fans appreciate that niantec is being fucking terrible with the release of Go and nintendo is still being awful and noncommunicative with its consumers? is that too goddamn much to ask? like fucking seriously?
>>344762263
You saw what happened with Sega right?
>>344762146
>The Wii U is gen 8
Professional publications which dare to actually codify video game "generations" typically will credit Wii U as a gen 8 console to be "fair" to it, going on the theory that gens are defined by time and not power. Yet the same publications always iterate the gen when a major hardware manufacturer who already has a current gen console out releases an entirely new console.
If Wii U is gen 8, NX will force them to iterate the gen for NX and gen 9 will have begun. That means gen 8 really was just a worthless 4 year gen with hardly any games. Or will they dare not iterate the gen for NX--marking it as an irrelevant force and crediting Nintendo with the dubious distinction of the only major console manufacturer with an entirely new console release which did not justify a generation iteration?
Either a slight against Nintendo or modern video games themselves. There is no other option.
>>344761268
>wants to play Nintendo games
>doesn't want to buy Nintendo hardware
Everytime with this shit.
>>344762353
Sega had 2 decent IPs. And I ain't talkin about Sonic.
>>344762239
Pokemon Dash.
>>344762353
Years of bad management and shitty decisions. A 3rd Party Nintendo would be closer to Bamco in terms of success.
>>344761268
>I'm gonna sound like the good guy and say I don't suggest they stop making hardware
>I'm just saying literally all their games should be available on other platforms
so
>WAAAAA give me free phone games Nintendo
>>344762052
i wish it had games to back it up
>>344762353
What happened? Are you suggesting that if Sega continued to try sell their own dedicated hardware they could have sold more of their games?
>>344762385
Their hardware is turd tier and everyone knows it. I don't even think they know what antialiasing is yet over there judging by Mayrio Kart U screens
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Oh-the-irony-Nintendo-earning-much-less-from-Pokemon-Go-than-Apple-or-Google_id83092?
>>344761712
Mobile = no
Third party = yes
>>344762478
It does, lackluster 1st party + 3rd party beats a handful of great exclusives, EVERY TIME. The PS4 is outselling the Wii U 4 times over, with a year less on the market. Even a giant marketting campaign would not save the Wii U, it may trick a few people, but most would fuck off.
>>344762020
>I want another identical console
I don't get it
>>344761405
>How much do you get for posting this?
are you greek ? seriously every time I hear fellow greeks argue online, this is the defense/accuse line for everything.
it's like the new "are you 12".
>>344762573
you mean a game not directly made by nintendo is paying those people more?
>>344761268
Nintendo getting cucked as usual
Why are people happy that Nintendo is going mobile?
F2P microtransaction skinnerboxes are suddenly cool when Nintendo does it? Are you fucking with me?
>>344762756
I do. I prefer Nintendo's 1st party games, but I don't like their hardware choices which struggle just to get HD and sometimes 30fps, and I don't like their lack of third party support. Clearly I'm not alone, since XBone has sold double the amount of consoles, and PS4 quadruple.
>>344762756
No, I want Nintendo to just give up and go third party because their games are a waste on their shit hardware
>>344762796
>Mighty No. 9
>no Bloodborne
you almost got me
>>344762263
>Waaaah Waaah. Why wont Nintendo go third party. Waaaah.
Thank god they wont. Sony almost shitted up the handheld market (look at all the weeb trash the Vita had) and Nintendo put them down like a sick dog. Nintendo nearly killed Sony before, and now since Sony has been chased out of the handheld market, Nintendo can now focus on killing Sony off for good.
>>344761538
>Whatever Nintendo does they will sell.
>>344761268
If Nintendo goes 3rd party, no one cares about their games.
That's how console market works.
>>344762796
>Mighty no9
lel these are getting better
>>344762878
totalshill go homu your fps can't save you from cancer or your wife's son.
>>344762921
How will they kill Sony off with 13m Wii Us sold vs 40 some million PS4s?
>it's a "Sonyggers think a successful mobile game means they'll get Zelda on their PS4, not just more mobile games" episode
>>344761268
No
Nintendo's games are good because they have to sell a console attached to them. That's why netflix, HBO etc produce their own content rather than buy them, to guarantee that they have good stuff to justify the subscription.
If Nintendo sheds its hardware, it will turn out exactly like SEGA.
Wario Ware Go when?Rhythm Heaven is for sissy boys[\spoiler]
>>344761268
>Nintendo's biggest release of the past 3 years is a game they didn't even develop, or have any hand in, other than happening to own 1/3 of the IP
>They're getting credit for it
Anyone else finding this hilarious?
>>344762921
you realize Sony only exists in the video game market because Nintendo cucked them in the 90s for Phillips right?
>>344762867
It's not like complaining about it on an anonymous imagePedoboard will change anything
Don't get me wrong, mobile "gaming" is the end of gaming in every sense. But on a certain perspective the contrarian Anti Go posters are more cancerous than the casual normalfags playing it at the moment.
The argument falls apart, because Nintendo had almost no involvement in the making of Pokemon Go.
>>344763024
>nigger
>no taste in games
literaly no salvation for you
>>344763024
>He's black
Why are sony bros always black? What's up my nigga
>>344763065
yeah tell that to the nintendrones though. google had a huge hand in this game.
>>344762532
Yet everybody wants to play the Mario kart, Mario Maker, Bayonetta, Smash Bros, Splatoon etc
>>344761268
>nintendo biggest release of the year is a mobile game
If I was a nintendo faggot I would be worried
>>344761858
Splatoon was proof that if you market a game right people will take interest. I was one of the nay-sayers before that game released but had curved all my opinions after playing the "Test Fire".
>>344762989
Its called the future mayne. Sony sold 80 million PS3s and almost died. God knows what will happen to them when another one of their Playstation consoles flops.
>>344763191
Not enough to buy the hardware apparently
>>344762987
Nice refute. We're getting to the point where 4K ultra 60fps will be viable in PC gaming, and standard 4k in console/mid range PC gaming. And yet Ninten do still ahve games running at 720p 30fps with medium settings best case scenario graphics.
when are people going to realize that Go is just a giant ad for real pokemon games? nintendo isn't going mobile anytime soon
>>344762878
Woah not trying to sound like a Nintendo fanboy, but none of the games I played struggled with maintaining 30fps you're just talking out your ass now
>>344763110
It's still their franchise and brand. It demonstrates a potential, but that's all so far. Imagine if they seriously tried making money off Jumpy Mario or a mobile LoZ game.
>>344762987
>1080p 60fps has been the standard for years
>4k around the corner
>He thinks 720p with no AA and 30fps is acceptable in 2 0 1 6
>>344763220
They almost died before PS3 was selling well.
Pokemon is the only Nintendo franchise I can think of that this would work with. Like how would you make a Zelda phone game that's not just a Zelda game.
>>344762949
It has sold and they are making a profit. Just not as well as they thought it would, hence why support is being phased out.
Even if it's nowhere near the 40 million of the PS4, it still sold 12.8 Million units by the end of Q1 this year and 84 million software sales.
Look what happens when Nintendo pays attention to the current gaming landscape.
>>344763273
Onsokumaru?
>>344763334
>>1080p 60fps has been the standard for years
>PC gaming
kek
>>344763330
I think they only own 1/3 and the idea for Go was firmly a decision made by TPC, though. It's kinda messed up that their first foray in to home-developed mobile games was a half baked social media app for shy people, and then Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem.
So fucking strange that they HAVEN'T made a P2W Mario infinite runner or something.
>>344763065
>Nintendo's biggest release of the past 3 years is a game they didn't even develop, or have any hand in, other than happening to own 1/3 of the IP
Who think did the marketing and helped make the franchise so popular that 500 people can flood an area for a Lapras?
>>344763262Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!Let the idiots bicker. I cant wait to see Nintendo assfuck Sony again (Vita dying was hilarious with the "I love my Vita threads). The future meltdowns will be priceless.
>>344763383
>acting like open world games are new to ninty
>forgetting about XC and XCX
>>344763359
Animal Crossing Go will literally shut Japan down.
>>344761712
Pokemon go is more successful than anything their rivals has done this year,I suppose that means everyone not working under Nintendo should just drop out.
>>344763458
>Who think did the marketing and helped make the franchise so popular that 500 people can flood an area for a Lapras?
The Pokemon Company.
>>344762631
>Third Party
I can't help but feel they should cut a deal with Microsoft for PC rather than go exclusively third party, you know? First party titles on the Windows store and the Nintendo console. It allows more players to enjoy their titles, but doesn't take them out of the race entirely. It's not impossible for them to make another Wii U that comes with a USB Cable or adapter for gamepad use with PC and you can have either or.
>>344763487
>Nintendo fags are this delusional
And the Vita is actually very successful just not as much as the 3ds but that doesnt mean it bombed so fuck off with that meme already.
>>344763093
nintendo didn't have a choice, sony tried to alter the contract so that sony would get all the licensing fees for the SNES/Playstation. nintendo would basically be supporting hardware they got 0 profit from, and hilariously, paying sony royalties to put out SNES games.
sony did it on purpose though. they knew damn well no one would ever take a deal like that, that's why they sprung it AFTER the R&D was complete. get inside knowledge about console development by working directly with the kings, then after you get all the info you need, drop a completely unworkable business deal on them and play the victim when they tell you to fuck off.
>>344763262
>when are people going to realize that Go is just a giant ad for real pokemon games? nintendo isn't going mobile anytime soon
What makes you think the mobile boys and girls discovering Pokemon via Pokemon Go will put down $200+ for a 3DS and a Pokemon game this fall, when they can just ask for iTunes gift cards for Pokemon Go?
>>344762878
Bad and lazy developers who don't optimize struggle with HD and 30FPS on PS4 and XB1, they don't develop for Wii U, the only game off the top of my head I can think of that doesn't render in 1080 is Splatoon because of all the ink physics going on and the only game that doesn't at least aim for a consistent 60FPS is Hyrule Warriors.
so can you actually fight or trade pokemon is there any actual story to the game or is it just basically walk around and collect pokemon with a giant cash shop attached to the game ?
Is the Animal Crossing mobile game gonna be the full experience? Pretty much the perfect phone game
>>344761268
>linking directly to The Verge
Fuck off shill.
>>344761268
Great, another leftist trick from the JEWISH media, forcing down the quality of my Japanese media
Go away Micrococks and Pony
>>344763575
zelda was the original open world game
they just forgot that at some point around ocarina of time
>for the entirety of you life Pokemon has been the only thing keeping Nintendo alive
>>344763772
What the fuck? Most games on Wii U are 720p and 30 fps
>>344763652
>0 first party support
Fuck all I wanted was another patapon with some vita gimmicks
>>344763634
I, and many other "nintendo console + pc master race" people simply wouldn't buy a nintendo console anymore.
yes i agree, now release nintendo games on PC and scrap the nx.
>>344763865
Actually most Nintendo developed games are either 720p/60fps or 1080p/30fps
>>344763849
I was gonna mention it but more recent examples I feel were going to work better
>>344763823
You can fight. It's horrible.
They're adding trading later, I've been told.
>>344761268
I agree that Nintendo's franchises are far larger than their hardware install base, and that licensing those franchises for mobile games is a quick way to make tons of cash.
However, this causes "brand dilution." The more low-quality high-volume products you pump out the weaker your brand becomes. Nintendo would do well to continue building their franchises on traditional hardware while occasionally letting one loose on mobile.
The key here is to avoid brand dilution and market saturation.
>>344761567
this
>>344763652
>And the Vita is actually very successful
You have balls as big as the moon to post that.
>>344761858
>people buy the PS4 because it's popular
>not for the specs and not for the games
wat
those are the only reasons anyone i know who owns a PS4 bought one and those are the only reasons i would consider buying one. People buy the console they do because it has games and shit that they want, maybe from series that they're long time fans of and they can only get it on that console
>>344763985
But then you have Madden, Megaman, CoD, Street Fighter, and Five Nights at Freddy's in the gaming hemisphere.
Players don't care about that stuff, they want their fix to keep playing more of what they love
>>344762052
DELETE THIS
>>344763865
Smash, MK8, Woolly World and both Zelda HD games I believe are all 1080p 60FPS, even if some shortcuts are taken like the pre-rendered course elements in MK8.
>>344763024
A literal sonygger
>>344764116
All things considered the Vita is actually the second best selling non Nintendo handheld of all time. It didn't do so bad considered the market always to Nintendo anyway.
>>344763924
That's fair I suppose.
>>344761268
>And now we have an idea of just how big that audience is thanks to Pokémon Go,
Whoever wrote this is crazy dumb
>Nostalgia rush weekend for specific game is a big hit
>Clearly is represents Nintendo's fan base to some degree
Like holy shit just kill your self.
>
>>344764170
Is that why MK8 has no AA? Would've been better to go to 900p and add AA
>>344763239
And we are also entering a time where it becomes harder and harder to turn profit because of the hardware.
>>344763334
>1080p 60fps has been the standard for years
What dreamland do you live in?
>>344763634
i can see something like that. they still make hardware, but they also have a software "console" like steam. and if they're so married to the wii u pad thing, make an app for every brand of tablet that connects to the nintendo console on your tv/nintensteam so you can bring your own device
i could see this working, especially with ms backing out on consoles, but i doubt nintendo has it in them
>>344764235
You best be trolling nigger.
>>344764235
>It didn't do so bad considered the market always to Nintendo anyway.
And that's not even true because the handheld market belongs to Apple and Google now. As shitty as Sony was in handling the Vita, their point about mobile gaming hurting the Vita wasn't far off the mark.
>>344764235
Sony fucked up, the psp was a great machine, then they made it incredibly expensive and forced stupid as fuck memory cards.
Then they didnt support the machine for fucking ever
>>344764235
Keep posting man. I was bored but you made my day.
>>344763863
So what about the years before Pokèmon came out and people were saying the same thing?
>>344764235
>justifying your shitty purchase
>literally the "mn9 is better than nothing" of vita arguments
Sonyggers, everyone
>>344764375
It's called Core i5+GTX 970 (or better).
>>344764235
So that's the PSP which sold ridiculous amounts, The vita and then... The game gear?
>>344764131
>Madden
very controlled releases, tied to NFL schedules
>megaman
dead
>cod
dying
>street fighter
there's a reason they slowed down on the ultra turbo hyper versions after 2
>5naf
has always been more popular on youtube than actual sales
look at the guitar hero/rock band implosion for a good case study on video game brand dilution
>>344764492
Apple is starting to lose the mobile market to Samsung and Sony.
>>344764362
Most Wii U games have no AA, Smash doesn't either I believe, but they look great in motion.
>>344764650
Right but the standard has not been 1080 with 60 FPS you delusional man.
https://fbinsights.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/facebookiq_gaming_infographic_final.pdf
>>344764729
>And Sony
What? How?
>>344764650
I thought he was talking about consoles
which take a more cinematic feel
>>344761405
>being this greek
>>344764729
>sony
You mean xiaomi
>>344764897
By making good quality phones. The Xperia 3 was very popular and I think it's still going strong
itt: nintentards are buttmad that nobody wants a nintendo console
keep praying that the NX will somehow be successful (it won't)
>>344764812
Standard != Average.
>>344764126
You aren't people, anon
>>344764858
Doesn't mean it's good.
>tfw watching nintendo crash and burn
It's beautiful
>>344764997
You are right, but the standard has not been 1080/60.
>>344765051
Making more money than anyone did this year is crashing and burning?
>>344764994
>Its a it didnt sell 600 million consoles so it failed episode
Fuck off the Wii U made money so it was successful.
>>344761987
You used it wrong, buddy.
>>344765153
Shhhh, let him enjoy his delusion
>>344765153
Yes, going full mobile is effectively dying. They admitted defeat against sony and microsoft.
>>344765313
But both of those parties have mobile shit. Sony has Uncharted and Little Big Planet games and Xbox sucks ass.
>>344761560
>Yet archaic old Nintendo still sees itself as a hardware company. Come on, Nintendo, it's time to join the 21st century. Sony and MS have won. Go third party.
Are you that desperate?
>>344765153
Konami it still making tons of money with mobile. Do you consider them alive or dead?
>>344765189
It made little money so it was not a success just not a crash.
>>344765189
>it was successful.
Is that why they ended it so soon, and is already being replaced? Is that why Wii U has had no games since last year? Keep pretending the Wii U hasn't tied them down.
>>344765465
delete this. n-nintendo is nothing like konami THEY'RE THE GOOD GUYS
>>344765465
Alive, of course. A company to be considered dead is for it to make no money at all, how is this concept so hard for you to grasp.
>>344765153
Keep crying drone, even muh amiibo wasn't enough to make the entire company make more than ONE of Sony's services, and since their stock is at amiibo level for a fotm memebile f2p game, don't expect them to outshine anyone.
>>344765465
They're Alive, dead means they make no content whatsoever. It's like saying Sega is dead because they don't have a console on the market anymore.
Nintendo going third party means their software will take a significant hit.
Anyone who doesn't realize this is retarded.
Look at all the other hardware manufacturers who went third party.
>>344765579
Wrong. They are a dead company because they dont make good games anymore
>>344765608
Why would I be crying and how am I a drone? Nintendo is making easy money and people are pissed because of it.
>>344761268
Yes Neotendo, just go third party already and make nothing but mobile drivel. Maybe by then I can find something else to call you by. Just stop ruining every thing you touch in the inner circle of ttue gaming.
Long gone are the days of NES, SNES, N64 and GC bliss.
Long gone are the days of good, quality tested games, handheld games, GBA and DS.
Long gone are unique niche games like Chibi-Robo and Paper Mario.
Long gone are all these days.
Just do it Neotendo. Just fucking do it already. Sever off your legacy already and go mobile. Just become an encompassing normalfag topic, stop trying to beat everything in the mud. The Wii made them fucking delusional.
Swear to fucking god, this WILL have unintended consequences for NX and future non-mobile titles.
>>344765608
>>344765793
>f2p garbage has more market share because most peope are poorshits
wewie
>>344765769
Games don't matter. It's sales that matter. That's why nintendo is winning
>Nintendo's franchises are way bigger than its hardware
well no shit. It wouldn't take PoGo to figure that out.
>>344765769
Who the fuck cares about Konami, metroidvania was their only good thing and Iga is giving us that. Or you want them to take care of franchises like other companies do now where no man who originally put their effort is there anymore? (like faggot fantasy for example) I rather for them to be dead if that's the case fampaitachi
>>344765793
>Nintenyearolds still mad U4 sold THREE MILLION in one month, a rate Nintendo hasn't seen in half a decade
>>344761268
>the cancer spreads
oh boy what great news. not like nintendo hasnt been fucking its fanbase for a decade, i didnt even realize it was possible for them to make LESS games than they do already.
Dude happy meal toys and phone games.
>>344765608
wow really makes u think . . .
>>344762052
>Sonyggers still think they're the cream of the crop for having the least garbage graphics in their shitty multiplats
>>344766001
>nintendo handheld doesn't exist
wew
>>344761712
Pokemon go is popular because it perfectly caches in on normie millennial nostalgia via a casual mobile app. This sort of thing would only work with pokemon, and was released during the summer with perfect timing. They did a great job, but I dont see any other nintendo game doing nearly this well as a mobile game. It works very well for pokemon because wandering around finding monsters in mundane locations is a core aspect of the franchise.
>>344765608
DELETE THIS
NINTENDO IS LITERALLY MAKING 100000000000 MILLION DOLLARS FROM POKEMON EVEN THOUGH ITS A FREE APP!!!!!!!!!
>>344765983
>igavania was their only good thing
nintoddlers are hilarious. go play kirby, kid
>>344766079
>nintenshit has the worst graphics in their exclusives
wew
>>344765870
So why wasn't this successful?
>>344765983
Didn't Konami make Contra? I like Contra
>>344766192
Contra didn't cease to exist as far as I'm concerned.
>>344766192
no idea, I don't play mobile shovelware
it was probably even a greater turd than pokemongo
>>344761268
>Nintendo's franchises are way bigger than its hardware
>implying it's not just a bunch of Normiebook 20-somethings that want to relive their "childhood" by running around and throwing balls at virtual animals
I guarantee Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing aren't going to get this amount of attention when their games release, but if Nintendo starts porting Zelda games or Mario games to phones, people will go fucking nuts. Purely the 3D 64 & GCN ones though, NES and SNES are grandpa-tier of course.
>>344764664
Then the Wonderswan, the Neogeo pocket, the Atari Lynx, the Gizmondo, the Nomad, there have been quite a few attempts. Sorry you're a millennial that grew up with the NDS.
>>344765983
Contra, Goemon, Metal Gear, Bomberman.
Konami was much more than Castlevania, anon.
>>344766310
Someone defending the vita has no right to call someone else a millenial tee bee eich
>>344766364
You really want another Metal Gear after 5?
You really want another Bomberman after that fucking 360 reboot?
I rather for them to be dead than making reboots of franchise that are literally worse than nothing.
>>344766310
All of which sold less than the game gear?
>>344766364
Konami lost their touch after the ps2
I cant think of a good Konami game after that, hell the ports on their good games were mostly bad aswell
What I don't get about Nintendo is why they don't just port their old games to PC and Smartphones.
Just by releasing an official port of Pokémon Yellow/Red/Blue, SMB, SM64 or OOT they would make a ton of money, fucking Square understood this (even if people can emulate them, a lot would rather buy an official version, as long as it's decently priced).
They could go "third party" only in their old catalogue, and release ports of games 1-2 gens behind.
Almost no one buys a new Nintendo console to play old Nintendo games, because fans already played them and probably still own the console.
If they have their teams working on other stuff, they can just outsource the ports to second parties or other studios.
With a relatively small investment they would be making millions. Not doing it just doesn't make any sense.
>>344761405
Fuck off, you Greek faggot
>>344766420
There's nothing to defend. The Vita is the second best non Nintendo handheld regardless of your fee fees.
>>344766487
Bomberman Live/Ultra was made after the fiasco that was the 360 Reboot.
And note how I used "was"
They haven't stepped into their long standing franchises in a long time.
>>344766785
The point is Nintendo is better than Square because Square is a shitty sellout corpse of its former self which used to be a bloated RPG dev company anyway
>>344766880
I agree on being better than Square, but porting 20+ year old games would be far from being a sellout. By not porting their old games they are wasting a HUGE money generating opportunity.
>>344766814
>>344766814
I hope you know that fact doesn't make it successful at all, you fucking retard.
>>344761268
There are literally 14 Pokemon/ Pokemon GO related threads on /v/. Can we chill the fuck out?
I know that Overwatch annoying but this is taking it to another level.
>>344768198
It's the flavor of the month. Stop sperging. It will die just like the Dark Souls 3 shitpost threads did, and it will be slowly replaced just like Pokemon killed Overwatch threads.
Soon you'll get your favorite
>what did she mean with this?
>now that the dust has settled...
>WHAT'S HIS NAME
threads again.
>>344761405
Pay debts
>>344768198
Miitomo had about the same success at first didn't it? /v/ was sperging about how big it was on twitter or some shit.
>>344762949
DELETE THIS
>>344762989
Probably because hardware sales are irrelevant in terms of profit and Nintendo's IPs are much stronger. This ia avoiding the fact their handhelds always priny money and the fact they have a nestegg from thr decades of positive revenue. SCE has been in the red until this gen and consistently demonstrates they have tepid 1st party franchises. Naughty Dog's casual appeal ia all they have. Peoplr buy PS4 to play Fallout 4, Call of Duty and FIFA and whatever AssCreed came out most recently.
Anyway Nintendo and Sony don't hate each other and neither has thr capability (or desire) of destroying the other. They both can only destroy themselves and Sony has a better track record for anybody who was alive before PS4 came out.
>>344763652
Vita actually bombed harder than Wii U but not because of Nintendo. Because of Sony. Nintendo at least mustered some effort to support Wii U but Sony did nothing for Vita but cripple it and then watch it die.
>>344761405
Greek free board
>>344762949
DELETE THIS
>>344769335
The Wii U has yet to outsell the vita
>>344763575
>>forgetting about XC and XCX
XCX was shitty
>>344769456
Hardware units are immaterial with respect to profit. They exist to push software which makes money.
>>344764170
MK8 is 720p without AA
Wolly World is 720p without AA
both Zeldas are 1080p with 30fps(and lots of drops)
The only 1080p60fps game the wii u has is Smash which has the assets quality Brawl had.
>>344763590
This year? More like all generation.
People bought PS4's, but no one plays games on them.
>>344761268
Pokemon Go is not a pokemon game. It's just a pokemon themed mobile game. One that is shortly hyped among twentysomethings because of the nostalgia factor and will quickly die out.
Then only the people that actually play pokemon games are left and they will not want to have their mainline games on mobile.
Sure, you will get a steady base of mobile players if they release a mobile pokemon game, but good fucking luck selling a new version on mobile every couple of years.
>>344761827
nobody cares you faggot.
nothing more enjoyable about playing on 240p 2001 dated system.
if you want gamepad buttons you could buy a 5$ controlled for iphone or ipad
>>344762353
that doesnt mean it will happen with nintendo.
if sega was so good they wouldnt lost battle so early on .
>tfw you will live to see the day where you're playing a 3D Zelda on a Sony console
>>344769550
They're both shit desu. Only faggots like that MMP combat trash series
>most important release of 2016
>more important than the actual pokemon games on their handhelds
>more important than star fox zero
Time to officially claim that old nintendo is dead, and they just want to milk their franchises to millennials and children
>>344769631
If the Wii U was so profitable Nintendo wouldn't be rushing it out of the door. At least the Vita has third party support which is free money for Sony.
>>344761712
Yeah, let's kill a video game company just for the sake of having them make more jewbux.
Hell, EVERY company should go mobile. Yes, vidya will die but who cares, the poor developers will finally be able to eat.
>>344762225
I think the point is marketing with the hopes that people who play Pokemon GO! will also purchase a 3DS and play the Pokemon games on them. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow are available on the eShop but I personally think the opportunity was kinda wasted by not having Fire Red/Leaf Green on there.
So what would happen if they announced some sort of pokemon go and sun/moon connectivity?
>>344770537
Something can be lackluster and still profitable. Which applies to Vita and Wii U. The Wii U was just a bit bettet and had support from its creator and not Kusoge 3rd (rate) party devs exclusively.
>>344764126
They buy it because it's popular. You go to /v/ and see that every PS4 thread is a bloodborne cock stroke thread. In the outside world however, bloodborne sold like shit when you take into account the number of people that own a fucking PS4. The majority only plays FIFA, CoD and shit. If the xbox had been marketed better then it would be the same shit.
>>344765313
>going full mobile
They announcing the NX when they revealed their mobile collabs was specifically to show that they WEREN'T going full mobile.
>>344770872
>he thinks NX isn't dead on arrival gimmicky shit
kek
>>344761268
>there are millions of people who want to play a Pokémon game but don’t necessarily want to buy a device dedicated to that purpose.
They must not want it too badly then if they can't even afford a fucking 3DS. You can get XLs used for under $100 these days. Fucking poorshits.
>>344770853
The problem is that by any sort of metric the Vita has been doing better than the Wii U. It sold better than the Wii U, it has a bigger library than the Wii U, it has more third party support than the Wii U, it will outlive the Wii U.
Don't claim both are equally successful or unsuccessful.
>>344771124
But it's not mobile, which is what yoiu (presumably) said.
>>344761268
The premise is immediately wrong because Pokemon is bigger in notoriety than Nintendo itself. This wouldn't be as big with any other Nintendo IP.
3rd party Nintendo is NEVER happening.
NEVER
NEVER
NEVER
Seriously
NEVER
>>344770853
I'd rather have have a large selection of mediocre to good third party games than shitendo's amiibo party and ultra trash. Not to mention that vita will easily outlast the Pii U.
>>344771263
The point is that they're going full mobile once NX flops.
>>344762989
Sony sells PS4 at a loss, their profit comes from game sales. It really depends on how many games the casual/normie market picks up.
>>344770360
>Sony existing after 2020.
Nice joke there anon. Sony's days are numbered. Once they create a console that flops (and they will) they will literally go under overnight. It will be hilarious and sad to watch. Even some emotionally attached people will literally, I MEAN literally commit suicide when it ha[pens.
>>344771428
>I'd rather have have a large selection of mediocre third party games
Not surprising in the least. You represent the average gamer well.
>Not to mention that vita will easily outlast the Pii U
It's a legacy device and had been for a year at Sony's own admission.
>>344771927
How's Starcuck Zero, nintenfag? How's that Pii U drought going? Hopefully Pokemon Go is keeping you occupied.
>>344771927
>I'd rather have have a large selection of mediocre third party games
That's like saying I'd rather go to a cesspool and pay the janitor multiple times to eat shit rather than going to a 5 star restaurant once.
>>344761567
>This could easily be solved by Nintendo just having competent hardware so you got third party games too.
There are a few reasons they don't get third party support.
Hardware is one thing.
Nintendo fans not really supporting third party is another.
Having a reputation for being shit to third party is another.
>>344764170
nintenyearolds everyone... cant even bother to take 5 seconds google shit before shitposting
>>344772082
You sound mad as fuck. Makes sense, you bought a PS4.
>>344771227
>It sold better than the Wii U
Hardware, not a metric of success on its own except on Neogaf and console wars threads.
>it has a bigger library than the Wii U
So does mobile. The point being this too is a bad barometer of success. I feel like you wouldn't apply that consistently.
>it has more third party support than the Wii U
This is irrelevant on its own and no measure has been made. This infers third party development has some quality of excellence. My friend it's been a while since the 90's. Third party development is not the same.
>it will outlive the Wii U.
It already hasn't. It's been a legacy device for over a year (Sony's words).
>Don't claim both are equally successful or unsuccessful.
They're apt to compare but the Wii U is more valuable to be sure, just for the modest amount of good 1st party games that exist and for its backwards compatibility and support from the manufacturer (which is above zero even if not high).
Why not sell the games as part of a dongle that attaches to the iphone/android and gives you actual buttons?
>>344772209
I know. Mostly I feel bad for them.
>>344762756
I don't like the gimmicks they went for with Wii and Wii U.
Although the big controller was sort of comfy to watch netflix on or playing Bayonetta 2 with the TV off, I would have greatly preferred just a nice classic controller and the TV for more than a very small handful of games.
I have more fun with classic 2D/3D platforming than something involving gyroscopes or blowing into the controller.
>>344772694
Gyro is not really gimmicky as such. It's objectively better (more precise) than twin stick shooting. Still less than a mouse ot course but no console uses a mouse by default.
>>344772465
>own pii U
>no games
>no sales
>get shovelware like starcuck zero straight out of miyamoto's anus
>defend shitendo on /v/ to kill time
>>344772879
Wew lad, you mad.
>>344771428
t. Sonygger
>>344772826
I guess so, but personally I don't really enjoy it so much.
I also don't liketrigger buttonson all controllers nowadays.
I mostly play PC games but when it comes to controllers I guess I just like standard controllers and a good D-Pad.
>>344770360
>TFW you will live to see the day Sonyggers do a complete 180 on Nintendo games now that they're on their console of choice
>>344772350
>Having a reputation for being shit to third party is another.
Do you really think third parties still care about shit that happened over 20 years ago
>>344763065
>>Nintendo's biggest release of the past 3 years is a game they didn't even develop, or have any hand in, other than happening to own 1/3 of the IP
>>They're getting credit for it
Nintendo owns Game Freak and The Pokemon Inc., i.e, the two other owners of the franchise
>>344773059
You need 4 shoulder buttons for many games now. It could get cramped trying to offer the same versatility without them.
>>344761268
>release half a game and a piece of shit
>stock still increase 8%
and retarded jap executives still isnt gonna put an actual game on mobile, japs are on their way out
>>344773381
Not only this but CDPR of all groups recently praised NX. This means a lot more than Ubisoft and the usual suspects unless you're a complete faggot.
>>344773498
I don't mind four shoulder buttons.
But nowadays the R2/L2 equivalents are triggers instead of normal buttons.
Never liked it.
