What went wrong
>left
>game marketed towards experienced players (people who played B&W)
>hence B&W2 and not a new gen
>right
>marketed towards new players
>hence a completely new gen
>>344679836
Eh, that does make sense.Now explain ORAS please
>>344679634
At least Calem/Serena are more competent.
I have no idea why Trevor and Tierno are even in the game
>>344679634
Isn't that Hugh fight after the E4? At least compare it to the Kiloude fight.
>>344679991
Lazy and rushed.
>>344679991
Gen 6 elements combined with RSE.
>>344679991
>ORAS
>aimed at fucking faggots who think gen 3 wasn't the worst ever
>hence the shitty faggot game
Honest question why post Pokemon stuff here when there's /vp/?
I don't get it.
You're like WWE fags on /sp/ a year ago.
>>344679634
Those XY fucks had potential to have cool teams, with Tierno having high damaging dancing shit and Trevor having powerful rare Pokemon, but Jesus I'm disappointed in just how much they dropped the ball
>>344680185
Same reason people post Overwatch, Dota, LoL, fightan when there's /vg/.
Same reason people post pre-2005 games when there's /vr/.
>>344680185
Pokemon = video game
therefore /v/
wwe =/= sport
therefore not a sport
>Pokemon designs are still great! They didn't get any worse you genwu-
>*can't speak further due to GF cock clogging mouth*
I love how Pokemon was always a pathetic easy series, and they STILL make it way easier
If it wasn't for competitive playing, almost nobody would care about the games
>>344680318
But Pokemon autists already have their containment board.
>>344679634
I feel like playing some pokemon. I haven't played since gold. Should I download black 1 or 2?
>>344680441
95% threads currently in the catalogue have their own containment board.
>>344680557
Wrong.
>>344679634
At least compare Hugh to Serena
>>344680412
>>344680441
and /v/ is for video games and pokemon is a video game
/sp/ is for sports and wwe is not a sport
Now if you want to argue about 2008-2012 /sp/ where everything was fun and perfect then I have no idea
>>344680602
It's true.
All 95% of the threads could be moved to one of the following:
/vp/
/vr/
/vg/
/b/
/tv/
/sp/
/a/
/jp/
/r9k/
/pol/
>>344680185
/vp/ was created because "discussion" of the anime, card game, ect were being had on here. There's no reason you can't talk about the videogames here.
>>344680412
>>344680880
Volcarona is an outlier in the gen of godawful conkeldurrs.
Tierno isn't your rival. Serena is.
Still, why the hell do two of her pokemon only have 3 moves?
>>344680412
salamanders don't have claws anon
>>344680412
that's what a salamander's foot looks like tho
>>344681084
Well there's an easy explanation for Flareon
>>344680537
Play Black 1 for the story, but Black 2 for all the extras
I think the modern designs will obviously suffer from a lot looking like stinkers. There's only so many pokemon you can make after all.
But there's also plenty of great designs too, pic related.
People need to stop looking at it in extremes.Gen 1 really does have the best designs though
>>344681925
I just wih they'd trim the roster a bit. Each gen has irredeemable shitmons nobody likes and noboy would miss. I mean look at this, I honestly don't even remember what it's called.
>>344682165
That tends to happen a lot with fish pokemon I find. Only so many ways you can design a fish and make it memorable.
>>344679991
Cash-in lazily done so they could release Delta Emerald later, which never came to fruition.
I can't believe it, though:
>HeartGold/Soulsilver
>kept all the changes from Crystal, expanded on them, added minigames and fuckloads of content
>OR/AS
>Kept absolutely no improvements from emerald
>Managed to remove mofes and minigames present in the original Ruby/Sapphire
>>344681084
>Greninja
I was sad that she didn't challenged you until the megastone thing, though I really loved how they made it so the story implied ahe underestimated you and after you beat her she goes desperate ovet it. She even pulls a Blue on you once (challenge you without warning out of the blue), but it's too late.
Man I miss a rival like Blue, who is actually on par with you.
>>344680412
Gee it's like every gen has multiple artists making multiple designs to fill multiple niches.
>>344682165
but they do, it's not like each game includes ALL the previous Pokemon in the wild. BW2 and XY were strange in that each had like 500+ fuckers up in there, usually it's more like 200.
If we're talking about movepools, is there a single trainer with decent AI that uses their moves intelligently? I don't think there's a single fight in the franchise where a trainer won't be prone to using ineffective debuffs, status ailments etc.
Like I've never seen an AI trainer set up spikes/stealth rock, or make use of a weather team etc
>>344684382
That's what fangames are for.
>>344682705
I'm pretty sure even people who dislike gen 1/gen wunner agree that the games have never been able to match Blue. And now they don't seem to want rivals so much as 'somewhat competitive friendships', so we'll probably not ever see it happen
I did like what they were going for with N, but they didn't push it enough
>>344679634
nothing
>>344684382
Not really.
The closest thing are the trainers in whatever the battle facility is in each region.
Do remember that the main game is supposed to be beaten by kids, and I doubt they want to force them to go through the horrors of fighting a stall team.
>>344682165
I used a Lumineon once
It was a water type that could be taught Ice Beam :/
>>344685173
Ehh, I do think Blue gets too much credit. He's very one-dimensional, even if he is succesful. The only reason people like him the best is because almost all other rivals are just awful.
>Silver
pssht, nothing personnel kid...
>Brendan/May
Contribute literally nothing to the game
>Wally
Good fake-out but no presence until the end
>Barry
Actually quite good, maybe better than Blue. Has a character arc while still sometimes catching you offguard and not just being overly friendly all the time
>Cheren/Bianca
Well-developed charactersfor Pokémonbut awful rivals
>Hugh
MUH SISTER'S PURRLOIN
>Calem/Serena
Forgettable as fuck
>the friend trio
why were they in the game
>>344685341
Right
Which makes me wonder why people complain so much about the wonky movepools/amount of pokemon trainers have in the new games, when the AI has never been good and the main games have always been super easy
It's all about post game and multiplayer. Of course, both gen VI games have almost no post game at all and that's a far bigger problem than the story trainers being weak
>>344685650
>fake-out
wut
>>344686080
Making you think he was a wimp, having him settle down in Verdanturf, and then he just pops up with a powerful team at the end of Victory Road.
>>344685173
Blue > Barry > Silver > Hugh > Shit > the rest
>>344685650
Blue is the best because the rivalry progression is consistent and the game goes a good job building up to the climax of fighting him as champion.
>>344679634
Tierno is just not a good trainer-desu. Teaches his pokemon more about dance moves than pokemon moves. They even went and emphasized it multiple times throughout the story anon. He just wanted to be a good bro and battle MC for the fun of it.
So why is it that the other trainers on routes aren't aiming to be the very best?
>>344685650
The thing with Blue is that he pushes you as a playet. He challenges you at several key points and, without grinding, is always a bitch to fight. Few people waltzed out of his Mt. Moon ambush without casualties.
>>344679991
RSE was never good, ORAS is the same shit with a face lift and no nostalgia.
>>344688119
Because believe it or not, not everyone wants to be the very best, or catch them all.
There's a reason so many trainers are themed a certain way.
If everyone was an aspiring pokemaster with a full team, the game would be much more samey.
>>344679634
Gamefreak likes to take one step forward six steps back. They've always done that
Nintendo/Pokemon Company don't care about fans
etc
