Heavy or Pyro
If you vote for the masked degenerate shitter you should fucking kill yourself.
Pyro needs to be removed from the game
>>344677217
FIX
THEM
BOTH
>>344677217
heavy protects the medic and protecting the medic is how you win tf2
however tf2 players haven't cared about winning for years now so pyro is going to win in a landslide
>>344677217
I think Heavy needs the most work right now.
>ywn fuck fempyro's latex clad ass
Why live
>falling for the election meme
They are just gonna release both the weapon sets eventually. Why give into Valve's shitty marketing attempt to counter Overwatch's success?
>vote pyro
>look at the balance patches afterwards
>mfw pyro was buffed and heavy was nerfed even harder
i votes heavy because i think pyro is arealdy good enough
>>344677852
>tons of femPyro gmod porn
>literally no femPyro SFM porn
What kind of fucked universe is this
>>344677850
pyro needs to be retooled from the ground up
they keep adding these shitty "buffs", then nerfing them into the ground
>>344678406
>no futa pyro porn
Fucking kill me, why is it so hard to have a good wank?
>>344678628
Literally all the femPyro gmod porn is futa. Most of it is futa on male pyro.
>>344677852
>>344678406
>>344678628
>>344678797
YOU ARE MASTURBATING TO A MAN
A FICTIONAL MAN
KILL YOURSELVES
>>344678797s-sauce?
>>344677217
>all of those bronies voting for pyro
its obvious who is the majority in TF2 now. It's sad to see, i wish this game stayed p2p.
>>344678001
>Valve's shitty marketing attempt to counter Overwatch's success?
you think Valve even cares about TF2 anymore, or Overwatch?
>>344677828
Can Heavies nuetralize any rockets, pills, arrows, jarate, milk, flares, balls, or bolts coming at his medic?
No?
A non-idiot Pyro is THE "protect your team" class.
>all this salt
Niggers you'll get your heavy update, just after Pyro.I am still upset over Pyromania
>>344679365
YOU HAD TWO
TTTTWWWWWOOOOO
It feels like I never even cared for TF2, it must be a planted memory from the parallel timeline.it hurts
>>344679465
And the class is still absolute garbage.
>there are people on /v/ RIGHT NOW who genuinely think the Pyro is overpowered
>there are people on /v/ RIGHT NOW who think the Pyro is low-skill when playing against non-retards
If you die to a pyro who just walks at you, you're garbage.
>>344677621
THEY
WILL
SOON
I play Overwatch now
>>344678870
>AH LOOK AT ME YELL LOOK HOW ANGRY I AM
>WHAT? NO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT SITE I AM ON!
>>344677217
I voted Heavy but Pyro needs it too. Whatever goes.
>>344679465
We got one real pyro update and another that was supposed to be all about Pyro and instead gave us the disappointing Meet The Pyro, the cancer that was pyroland, a one-off gamemode, and weapons that were better for every other class than Pyro. Sniper got Hitman Heatmaker, Scout got the Baby Face Blaster, and Soldier got the Beggar's Bazooka. You know what Pyro got? Another fucking flaregun, and two reskins of stock weapons that both look like shit and 99% of all players will see as stock weapons because pyrovision is cancer.
>>344677217
I don't care about this Pyro vs Heavy shit. I just want Valve bring back quickplay.
Pyro is my 2nd favorite class but Valve will never truly fix it while Heavy never gets any love and is the least played class if I am not mistaken. The last and only Heavy-centric update was in 2008.
Heavy deserves to win
I uninstalled TF2
If Heavy wins and actually gets some good shit I might play again.
I only play medic so I'm team heavy. Pryo uber isn't that bad though. Fuck demos though, pussy ass bitches.
Overwatch
>>344685683
this desu senpai
>>344677217
I would vote for spy if I could.
He needs it more than both of them.
Literally the weakest and least seen class in comp.
>>344685972
The Pyro deserves it more.
#TeamPyro
>>344685972
he needs something that can defeat non retards/good players
Heavy is functional
Pyro is not.
The choice is obvious.
Pyro has been nerfed so many times, I'm not sure what Valve wants them to do at this point other than spy checks.
With competitive, NOONE picks spies, playing Spy would be a disadvantage as competitive promotes team communication. A spy would be a wasted slot. Pyro is the second worst class in the fucking game right now.
Pyro in it's current state is not functional in competitive play, whereas the heavy is.
>>344678870
>MAN
>>344678994
jesus lad just go to rule34.paheal or rule34.xxx and search for "pyro -male" tags. that will show only non male pyros. There you goddamn newfag.
>>344686087
Pyro has 175 hp, a shotgun and a melee.
Spy requires both your team to be great, and the enemy team to be dumb as shit.
>>344685972
unfortunately his class is just designed to capitalize on chaos and lack of focus, and in competitive you have a drought on both. The scout is in a similar boat but he also has an actual gun that doesn't shoot marshmallows so he can compensate just by gitting gud. I can't think of any balance to the spy to make him viable in comp without causing serious balance issues.
>>344686169
I don't get it. How is Heavy more functional than pyro? Airblast alone gives pyro something invaluable, heavy is only good to tank some damage (with a medic behind him) and dps in the short-mid range. Demos and soldiers can take down nests better, seriously what can heavy do that another class can't do better? I don't understand how can someone say pyro is worse than heavy. That said I never played or spectated comp so there's that
if the only thing the entirety of the Pyro update notes said was "changed axtinguisher to pre-nerf status" then I would be satisfied. Puff and sting may have been simople but its the only bastion of skill Pyro had, and frankly I just don't think any class with a flamethrower could actually be any more complex anyways.
Chose Heavy, but I can't be arsed to play this game anymore after 9 years
I voted Pyro because I unironically believe Pyro is UP.
Heavy is UP too, but because I play Pyro more, I want them fixed first.
>>344687067
>muh combos
You faggots are worse than demoknights, I swear.
>>344687248
well then what do you want them to do to pyro.
>>344687181
>I voted Pyro because I unironically believe Pyro is UP.
You say that like it's a weird thing. Only retards think Pyro is too strong.
Pyro is more fun
>>344687523
More mobility options. That's all the Pyro needs. They just need to the pyro able to airblast jump or something and then fix that flamethrower mojo shit and that's it.
>>344687067
i've played tf2 ever since it was released and ill be honest, i never did the combo it's annoying to play against.
My pyro loadout has been the default flamethrower and volcano fragment along with the flare gun for crits for the longest time
>>344687825
>and volcano fragment
why
>>344687067
It won't ever happen. Pubs(where it's a little more forgiving for pyros) unironically think the puff n' sting is cheap and OP. You're better off hoping for a detonator buff instead.
>>344687825
>volcano fragment
for what purpose.
>>344687934
It's pretty
>>344688046
Pretty shit, more like. You're better off using literally anything else.
>>344687752
he's already got flare jumps and the powerjack boost, but from what I've seen nobody actually flare jumps and people only use the powerjack because he has no other decent melee options. If you think they'll just give the class itself a mobility boost such as higher jump or greater speed then I highly doubt it, lest the pub shitters go nuclear.
Chose pyro, he's fucking useless
>>344687067
Its not really a combo.
ITs more like you're getting a free crit on someone whos in a state where they can't even avoid it or dodge it because pyros hitboxes are so fucked up.
So pretty much an average overwatch hero.
>>344685972
He already got a nice speed buff
You need to git gut at your aim with the revolver
>>344688631
>revolver
There are better classes to go gun slinging as.
>>344679578
>tfw just got shrekt by a pyro main on a casual
the fucker could reflect everything I shot at him and hit every single flare-punch he could. what do?
>>344688806
Use a shotgun.
Pyro's core mechanics are dogshit
Heavy is playable but the victim of fair nerfs
The answer is obvious
>>344679345
You spelled Medic wrong
>>344677217
Voted for Heavy. I know they'll do both but I want to see what cool shit they give Heavy and give them more time to think about how they might rework Pyro. Pyro definitely needs more time on him.
>>344688867
Probably wouldn't live enough to 1v1 him with a shotgun. Either my or his teammates would end up killing me.
>>344687667
I thought most people thought he was, sorry
>>344688168
backscratcher for life lad
>>344685972
He's not seen in comp because he's very situational and relies on being unexpected. On a team of 6 or even 9, he's pretty expected once he gets that first kill or gets called out. He's the same as Heavy, Engi, or Pyro in that regard.
>>344689334
Rocket jump/sticky jump away
if soldier: get to a higher position and wait until he switches to the flare gun, then shoot rockets
if demo: turn a corner and put some stickies.
>>344689334
>his teammates
Well you're probably supposed to be at a disadvantage there anyways.
But really, don't underestimate the shotgun head to head against pyros.
>>344687181
Pyro is UP so is the Heavy
The huge difference?
The pyro needs way too many gimmicky shit in order to do some decent damage
>>344689623
Will try next time, thanks. It was hard getting into a decent positioning, though, most of the time I fought on flat ground, and the only moment I could get a height advantage was when I rocket jumped on him, but he reflected the rockets away, and flare-punched me most of the time.
>>344689771
Now if only I could aim for shit.
>>344678001
From what they've said they haven't even started on making one weapon set yet, so even if they did, it would take years for them to do it.
>>344679067
Holy shit, same senpai. Though I feel like the game would've died by now if it wasn't f2p
>>344689523
I'm aware of this.
But even in pub play, all it takes is one person knowing what spy is to make your life terrible.
Probably the only class that gets significantly less effective as matches progress.
>>344689081
*unfair
>>344691206
Him and scout both. It helps to have a backfield to play around in. Once you're discovered it usually comes down to manipulating players and making reads on their movement to get a kill.
>>344679345
a non-idiot pyro is an annoyance
a non-idiot heavy is an annoyance that can actually hurt you
think of all the damage that fat fuck has absorbed for you
give the heavy a fun weapon
he deserves it
>>344679585
>SOON
>>344677326
>Not wanting to actually make him playable.
While heavy would certainly need some changes, pyro is a fucking joke right now.
They need to radically change the way he plays.
>install update
>try to play some casual
>cant connect to tf server api or some shit
>restart steam
>nothing happens
>Decide to play on some community servers
>lost connection to item server on all of them
Fucking kill me
For people like me that really dont care about playing competitively and just like too hop in a server and mess around. They need to stop shoving this comp thing down our throats.
Pring back the fucking pubs.
>>344694560
Community servers are pubs, dickhead. They even fixed casuals so you niggers can hop in and out at your leisure.
>>344677217
how about a fun fps
>>344687752
>More mobility options. That's all the Pyro needs
And what would you suggest pyro DO with said mobility options? He's not like soldier or demo who can put gib 4 people before they even hit the ground. He doesn't have enough range or damage to make use of any extra mobility.
>>344696976
Narrow the flame thrower stream.
Increase the fuck out of it's DPS.
Give it more range.
>>344697090
Then he's just heavy 2.0
>>344695182
>casual cunt is butt hurt about shitty game
never change.
>>344697142
I'd rather he be Heavy with more mobility then the glitchy fuckfest he is now.
>>344697392
why not just play heavy then?
>>344697483
Because Heavy is also shit right now.
>the character that wins gets updates with a nerf
>>344696976
> He doesn't have enough range or damage to make use of any extra mobility.
Scout has no range and his damage is only good if you have good aim.
He takes advantage of speed to get in and out.
Pyro can do this too if he is boosted faster.
His damage and range would be fine if he had the means to get in.
>>344697359
Direct that to >>344694560
>>344697597
Heavy needs buffs but he is far FAR more useful than pyro is in his current state. He's the one character soldier has a poor matchup against and 500 DPS is no joke.
Pyro is fine, he just needs her flamethrower bugs fixed. Heavy actually needs new weapons and a rebalancing because his current setup is a cookie cutter mess.
>>344697834
>Massive damage dropoff effectively rendering him useless but a meat puppet labelled "Target Practice"
No
Y'know what broke the sentry nest? A soldier flanking.
Y'know what defended the payload? A demoman.
Y'know what broke through the enemy front line? A medic.
Literally the only spot Heavy is good is in spots where sentries can't be built quick enough and sticky bombs can't delay the enemy on their own, so like some points you could find on cp_steel and similar. That's it.
In comp a Pyro stays fully operational at full running speed instead of slowed way down, and his airblast is more defensive than anything else in the Defense category. He's a skill based orbiting shield for medics.
>>344697748
>Scout has no range
Yes he does have you ever actually seen his shotgun spread? He can still land every pellet from around 40~50 ft. There is a reason why high level scouts are so terrifying.
>Pyro can do this too if he is boosted faster.
No he doesn't because flamethrower range is not only inconsistent but also pretty short and does damage over time rather than all at once which is a crucial difference.
>>344695182
>community servers
>trade
>idle
>orange
>minecraft
>mario kart
Fuck off, no one wants to play that shit
>>344698375
Spread doesn't matter compared to damage fall off.
>>344678870
It hasn't even been 100% confirmed to be male, although it's likely
>>344697749
No, you're definitely the whiny faggot.
>>344698475
Competitive turning off damage fall off when?
Seriously, most of the cast are using projectiles, and Sniper doesn't get it. If you remove spread but it doesn't matter for shit because of damage fall-off, why not reverse that?
Y'know, like the common sense most shooters use?
Just about the only spot it makes sense is pyro's flamethrower cos it disperses, but the fire doesn't expand fast enough nor reach far enough.
>>344698415
Then pick a server that isn't those, stupid.
>>344698765
Oh I sure am. I'm not the one crying about having to put in one iota of effort to find a server.
>heavy wins
>Another edible secondary weapon
>>344698327
>Massive damage dropoff effectively rendering him useless but a meat puppet labelled "Target Practice"
At the same distance rockets and stickies are only going to be doing 40 damage which he can easily shrug off. Heavy is a defense class, the enemy comes to him not the other way around.
What does anything else you mentioned have to do with heavy? He has a niche and he's good at it. He is the best at holding ground, protecting support classes, denying bombers, and drawing fire. He also has the benefit on not needing to reload and instant damage where a demo or soldier may struggle against spread out enemies heavy does not.
>>344698910
>Pill bottle from L4D
>Does what it says on the tin, immediately grants overheal
>>344698475
It does when you consider scout can dodge stickies and rockets all day long at that range. That 50 damage each shot adds up.
How to instantly spot a pub scub:
>"Heavy is really the most boring class to play. It takes no skill or tactical sense"
>>344699157
There's a reason the Dalokohs Bar doesn't do that any more. It was fucking useless. New Dalokohs is actually alright.
>>344699356
Oh I forgot about that because I was thinking the pill bottle wouldn't have a taunt animation just to use it.
Like, why is it even necessary?
>>344698775
Damage falloff exists so players are encouraged to close gaps and take risks because there is nothing fun about two teams spamming from each edge of the map.
>Heavy's been down by three percent and dropping
I figured this would happen from the start. Doesn't help that two of Heavy's weakest weapons had their buffs reverted this update, and damage ramp-up, the DUMBEST change to Heavy that has no reason to exist, still hasn't been removed.
I still have no idea why they decided to make you need to start firing for a solid second to have full damage and accuracy, on top of needing to spin up and moving at a crawl while you do so.
>>344685972
the class only works when you are up against retards, otherwise you can try the "ninjacooltrickz" facestabs and other shit but you can really pick a soldier/demo and be far more effective
>>344699679
Literally making excuses to avoid fun, when they picked up Dota and overcome such "shit's boring" problems with significant balance overhauls every couple of months.
It is very easily possible to make it work instead of just having a stupid amount of falloff that gimps everyone outside of "literally anyone else can fight effectively at this range why did you pick this guy" range.
>>344699761
Because spinning used to take longer
>>344699967
What if, here's an idea, what if, get this, what if...
Spy didn't need to backstab to do worthwhile damage? What if just getting behind them was sufficient to pull off some serious damage?
After riding the teleporter to appear right inside the enemy sentry nest that is.
>>344700060
I don't mind spin-up, if that took a little longer in exchange for not having to shoot at a wall just be sure I can hit the enemy team with more than a cough, I'd take it.
>>344698775
Removing damage falloff would greatly increase Heavy's effective range.
It would also do the same for Scout and Scout is already the top class in high level TF2 by a wide margin.
>>344700031
>It is very easily possible to make it work instead of just having a stupid amount of falloff that gimps everyone
And how do you suggest they do that? CSGO levels of RNG where every gun is annoying and unreliable?
Also if everyone is gimped by falloff then is it really an issue? The only class who ignores falloff is sniper and he's cancer anyway.
>>344700258
I'd reduce the effective damage of meat shots then.
He needs crita-cola to do what he does now.
Likewise his unlocks provide specialisations for him with some minor reworks, like bonk lasting much longer so he can fuck with their lines of fire or Guillotine/Wrapping/Sandman aren't so weak.
No damage falloff means even with less damage he can now be harder to hit by staying at medium range while flanking to harass harder without basically gibbing people compared to actual damage dealers.
>>344700452
It's a big issue when falloff isn't used well and some classes are actually gimped, not all of them - which is something I've never said, as I said most people have projectiles which shouldn't really be affected; demoman pills for instance being his main threat for dealing with most targets.
>waiting forever to get a heavy buff/rework since he's boring to play as and shit
>war v2, heavy is nerfed again
>pyro is pretty much guaranteed to win. Not to mention pyro was buffed for the update, and has far more unlocks than heavy.
>it'll probably be another year minimum before heavy sees an update
I don't even feel like playing at this point.
>>344700675
Pills don't have falloff though? They always do 100 damage.
>>344700675
>I'd reduce the effective damage of meat shots then.
Then Scouts would just roll Shortstop and fuck over everyone really.
And a Heavys effective kill range will still be tremendous without falloff and he will shut down anyone in the air with relative ease..
>>344677217
why_not_both.jpg
Who is winning so far?are the polls available somewhere?
>>344701113
Last time I checked it was
Heavy: 47%
Pyro: 53%
>>344678994
at this tumblr: http://t--soni.tumblr.com/
>The face of TF2 vs the face of W+M1 shitters
It's not even a fight. No one who gets put against Heavy will win.
Haven't even played since the new update.
What a fucking farce
>>344701150
Great
Pyro has been shit for 9 fucking years
You still have to jump through hoops to do damage
>>344701239
except it's not an actual heavy vs pyro fight. players choose who they want to win and then play on valve servers and score points which is basically the votes.
>>344700227
isn't that basically the scout's role?
>>344677217
>Like playing pyro
>But like fapping to heavy
I can't decide
>>344698565
>Applyijng backwards canon to make yourself not a fag
No one thought pyro wasn't a male until a few years ago. Anyone who considers otherwise is a massive cocksucker.
>>344703197
Scout and Spy are pretty similar.
It's a trade-off between one-hit kills and dealing with sentries versus better mobility and two-hit kills.
Both are pick classes, which have strong ability to get behind enemy lines and do damage.
I just miss my GRU and sandvich dropping.
>>344699134
>instant damage
with the 1 second damage ramp up? I think not
So you don't want at least half of the players to keep maining the easiest class in the game?
You actually want some balance in the game?
>>344706512
should have posted a picture of the engineer
>>344706512
>tfw they will never nerf this easymode class for faggots
>playing TF2 in the current year
>not quitting in 2013
