http://nichegamer.com/2016/07/10/metroid-2-remake-fan-project-could-release-next-month/
So will Nintendo prove themselves to be the biggest douche in the industry by C&D'ing this, /v/?
>>344655686
If Nintendo C&D AM2R that will be the final nail in the coffin and they will be fucking dead to me.
>companies are douches for defending their copyrights
Are you 12?
Are you one of those bronies that cried after their fighting game got C&D'd?
>>344656472
>S- stop hating Nintendo guys they have the right to stop you from enjoying their characters
>>344656472
Talk to me again when Nintendo knows what the fuck to do with one of the most influential franchises in gaming.
>>344655686
>Zero Mission assets
I'd be shocked if a C&D doesn't happen.
>>344655686
>Announcing breaking the copyright law weeks before actually doing it.
It's like they want to be shut down. Did none of those chinese "remake" dudes learn their lesson? Some people seem to be born retarded.
>>344656580
>Everyone does it your retard
>But I hate Nintendo!!!!
>>344656472
>i have no idea about the destructive history of copyright and how it has crippled the industry
>>344655686
yes don't be dumb
>>344656472
>killing non-paid fan projects is objectively good because a group of bribed old guys says so, and so corporations can safely lead you to only their products
Do you also enjoy getting assfucked by niggers in your own house because courts will defend them if you harm them?
>>344657181
AM2R doesn't use zero mission assets anymore. They've used original sprites for a while now.
>nintendo activity attacks the fan culture that actually bought their pii u
>nintendrones are perfectly happy when they do
>>344655686
Considering Nintendo ignored PM for years even though they knew about it, I doubt it.
>But they still C&D'd it!
No, but they did start making tournaments they sponsor drop PM, that's about all. Twitch just pussied out and banned PM before Nintendo actually said anything, if Nintendo really wanted to actually kill PM then they would have told Hitbox to stop streaming it too. Multiple PM devs have come on here and said there was no C&D as well, just some devs jewing it up and wanting to go official(which was obvious after seeing so many former PM devs getting picked up by Wavedash games), they deny it but anyone with sense knows it.
I haven't played any of the demos but I am more excited for this than any game this year. Does it have shine sparking? Is there a hard mode or a new game plus thing?
>>344659410
On the flipside, they killed SM64 HD and an emulation site's entire ROM library after noticing them.
I guess they either just care less about modding, or only begun to notice around the time PM devs closed their own doors.
Either way I just hope AM2R survives long enough to make it into fan hands. Announcing it this publicly and early is a good way to shoot yourself.
>>344660120
AM2R's been public for years now. The devs might not have the smarts to keep the fact it's near release under wraps, but I feel that journalists should have a obligation to not report on it until it's out.
>>344655686
When is this coming out?
>>344661664
Q4 2018
>metroid 2
Wow its fucking nothing.
>Nichegamer
Can you Nichegamer shills please fuck off back to cripplechan?
>>344661664
>>344661726
It's coming out August 6th, 2016
http://metroid2remake.blogspot.com/2016/07/the-last-stretch.html?m=1
>>344655686
Streets of Rage 4 says hi.
>>344662790
What the fuck, that's my birthday.
>you'll get to play AM2R in your lifetime
Feels fucking good man.
>>344664796
Happy birthday anon, enjoy the metroid.
The game was mostly complete for like a year now. If they were going to take it down, why didn't they already?
Regardless, they better not take it down before I have the opportunity to download it. After that I'll put it on every download site I can just to fuck Nintendo for such a dick move.
>>344657548
>I should should have the right to make money off other people's original ideas and characters
>>344655686
time and time again, these stupid fucks do not learn from history making a game without permission is always gonna land a C&D, especially fucking nintendo, why don't these fucks just release it privately on torrents.
>hey everyone look at my game, especiually nintendo look at it, we worked so hard (please don't report us)
>>344664891
You too, man.Still not as good as the Mars landing, though.
>>344661807
Metroid 1 and 2 are the only games in the series that needed remakes, and 1 already got an official one.
>>344664796
You were born August 6th, 2016?are you a time traveler or a fetus?
>>344665223
Hunters needs a remakewith functional online and more online game modestho.
Please nintendo?
>you will actually live to see AM2R released after all
>>344665593
Why remake Hunters? A new Prime game with an expanded multi-player would surely be a better choice?
>>344666073
That would be preferred yes, but desu I dont trust in nintendo to not fuck it up.
A simple remake/re-release on 3DS or whatever new handheld of theirs seems more plausible.
>>344666057
Not if you die in a tragic accident this week
>>344665074
>make money off other people
Nobody's saying that you douche. Many (if not most) fan-works are free and get shut down purely out of marketing-control.
>>344660329
>journalists
>not reporting to their bribe-money overlords
Might as well ask them to stop supporting SJW's.
>nichegamer
t. 8ch
i'm playing Metroid 2 right now, and, HOOOO BOY, it's motherfucking SHIT.
why the hell is this treated like a special relic to Metroidbros here?
why can't people just ask Nintendo to license their little project instead?
Capcom did it
What's the point in taking legal action against a FREE game, though?
>>344656472
>defending their copyrights
>NoJ HQ: "shhhh, don't let the gaijintendos know people can host fanworks and monetary projects for contests on NicoNico. capiche Reggie?"
You know, they should just make a not-Metroid in a game heavily inspired by it. They could even make money that way, and add new things.
Remember the Chrono Trigger remake thing? Shit man just make a similar RPG game with time travel, some antropo and go for that japanese style.
I don't know, that way you deliver a game that you think is similar to the source material, while also avoiding cease and desists.
>>344655686
does wii u worth buying for bayonetta 2? is it dead and wont be supported soon after nx?
>>344669453
It's not. It's widely regarded as good for early Game Boy but very dated and flawed. Super and Prime are the golden children.
>>344655686
Even if they do they still can't be worse than Konami.
>>344669601
Would that work? How did it work for Capcom?
>>344655686
If it's a free game, I doubt they would do anything, let alone a cease and desist. Then again, >>344660120
Retro has said they don't care about the remake an have thought about remaking M2 in the future anyway.
>>344671598
Retro isn't Nintendo; they don't have C&D/veto power. Best they could do is argue in defense if Nintendo does try to take it down.
>>344671598
>>344671818
More like, Retro isn't DeerForce, why would I want to play a M2 remake by them?
>>344671987
same reason every would rather play the pokemon remakes by gamefreak over the million of fan remakes that existed before them
>>344672064
Brand loyalty? Pokemon is a different case though. Those fans are rather odd.
>>344671454
Capcom fully supported Mega Man X Street Fighter and hosted it on their site.
Capcom gave approval to Mega Man Unlimited.
>>344671454
Hasbro licensees have given approval to licensees to support fanwork.
Hasbro directly gave approval for a college project Double Rainboom to use the MLP IP, but ordered it to be taken down likely since the creator tried to sell it AND because the pieces from the character assets were taken from official assets without permission.
These assets were never meant to be made public in the first place and the game unknowingly did that.
>>344655686
They usually don't C&D despite the common narrative. If they do it will probably be because Kotaku or Reddit blows it up so much that they have to address it. My main concern is that Federation Force is coming out, and a fan made game is going to be superior to their product.
Also why are these people always so dumb? Wait until the product is done and just release it. You're basically painting a target on your head to ruin all you've worked on by announcing a release date.
>>344669453
Most acknowledge that it's flawed, but it has some unique qualities that separate it from other games. The game as a whole is subtle, despite it's simple goal of killing metroids.
This review is long, but I think it does a great job at analyzing the game and what makes it special. I'm not posting this for you in particular, just anyone who is interested.
http://ettugamer.com/2015/01/28/a-maze-of-murderscapes-metroid-ii/
>>344673482
Thanks Smashking
>>344673819
The question is how do they release it then with the short window they have before the IP holder shuts it down.
>>344657181
Educate yourself.
How can they stop him? He finishes the game, leak it somewhere and let it spill over into the schools and churches
>>344664796
Are you my sister? How are you?
If you're looking for something to do while waiting for for AM2R, I highly recommend Project Base and Hyper Metroid.
Project Base is a hack of Super Metroid doesn't do much to the map beyond expanding it a bit, but the real showcase is the nearly completely overhauled gameplay. It's faster, tighter, and almost like playing an entirely new game, but it still feels like Metroid. It is fucking fantastic.
Hyper Metroid takes Project Base's overhauls, and adds on a completely new map. So in some ways it's even better as you actually are playing an entirely new game.
I want recommendations for some Metroid fan hacks or fan games for these weeks leading up to AM2R. Pls help
>>344673951
what's with all the underage crosssite shitposters all of the sudden?
first, CodyCoyote64 (Miiverse) in Paper Mario threads
then, GY_Sybb (GameFAQS) making all the autistic ass threads in both 4chan and 8ch
now this chump crying primefag in nearly every Metroid thread made.
>>344674570
See: >>344674439
Also add the following:
Super Metroid Redesign Axiel Edition
Darkholme Hospital
Escape II
Airy
Z-Factor
And just for fun: Rotation Hack
>>344673970
AM2R has had a website for a while now that hasn't been bothered, all they needed to do was have a quiet release.
Just release on private forums or whatever,. Once it's out there it's pretty much impossible to actually remove it from the internet. The window usually isn't that short unless it's been heavily publicized. Stuff like Zelda Classic, Super Mario Crossover, and Fire Emblem/Super Metroid/Earthbound rom-hacking communites have pretty much been left alone for years at this point.
>>344673951
>>344674643
>implying that's me
That'll do pig, that'll do indeed.
>>344673951
fucking pathetic, i wonder if he knows Other M flopped like stinky shit?
I dont get why more fan projects dont just recolor everything and change the spelling on the characters names by a tiny bit so they call it a parody which is protected under law and can even generate revenue. Worked for A Fox in Space
>>344655686
there's about 200% chance they will
>>344670063
come on
The breast slider removal was bullshit and we know it
>>344673951
why are purists so insufferable in Nintendo fanbases?
can't have a KI:U thread without a smashfag whining about Sakurai or some faggot pretending the controls give him a carpal tunnel.
>>344673951
>Visiting gamefaqs
>Visiting gamefaqs enough to know individual posters
You're really not helping your case.
>>344675738
>>344675132
don't have to dust your tracks, anon.
It wont get C&D because this is allowed
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1825122831/heroes-of-mother-3-0/description
>>344675738
you're on /v/, which isn't any better. if anything /v/ is worse
>>344674570
You've already got some recommendations but I'll add:
Metroid Eris
Metroid Super ZeroMission
Super Metroid Redesign
Metroid Eris felt like a real SNES game to me, with only a few unfair parts. Unfortunately they would ruin the game if played on actual hardware without save states. I still recommend playing it with a crt filter and gamepad.
It's on its way? Nice.
Snipe it when it comes out. There could be a Mother 3 situation.
>>344656472
Not that anon, but you know what? I really think we should go back to 20 years duration at most with non-transferability of moral rights. At most.
It's funny how when it comes to copyright companies are suddenly totally OK with state enforced protectionism.
>>344675956
Sorry
>>344675738
>he thinks /v/ any better than GameFAQS
>implying /v/ isn't mostly filled with ex-GameFAQS/Gaia users by now
we had a bunch of threads of people trying to hack a GameFAQS poll and a round of nostalgia talk about older GAmeFAQS.
>>344676191
Oh, shit, I compltely forgot about Super ZeroMission
>>344676025
>faggots in /v/ were too busy shitposting about Mother _ when this shit got a free pass
don't underestimate autism, folks
>>344674439
>>344674920
I'm trying Project Base now and it's fun stuff. The backflip is sick. Weird how they removed the self-destruct from the intro but whatever. By the way did Samus' visor flash in certain rooms in the base game and I just never noticed? If so I feel dumb
>>344673951
why do primefags always fall for this
>>344677520
It always did that.
Generally in darker rooms with little natural light.
>>344673482
>"it's a classic so can't be shat one!"
stay mad, i see SM64/SMS/3D Land fans shit on SMB2 and SML all the time.
not sure why Return of Samus get special treatment if a Metroid Prime fan have an opinion on it.
>clunkier physics than Metroid 1
>slower than Super Metroid
>literally can't get out of a hole under a Metroid husk unless you perfect your space jumps under it
>missiles aren't often to recollect unlike Metroid 1
>>344679367
>clunkier physics than Metroid 1
That is complete bullshit and you know it. The ability to shoot up alone makes is 10x better than Metroid 1. Not to mention being able to crouch, walljump and the addition of the space jump.
>>344655686
Unless they charge money for it, Nintendo won't C&D it.
This isn't a Kickstarter. And if the devs aren't stupid enough to sell the game, nothing will happen.
And Metroid is overrated crap anyway.
>>344656472
Your first console was a wii or a PS3 ?
>>344673482
>>344673951
honestly
have any of you metroidfags even PLAYED Halo?
pic related was basically SF64 and everything Halo had with online being an exception from it (hence people calling it a poorman's Halo clone way fucking back)
also the fact Prime came out months after Halo and the first game being developed by ex-Turok/Half-Life devs at Retro.
>>344679864
The Chrono Trigger remake wasn't going to be sold and SquareEnyx sent a C&D letter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNkqKC7nwls
>>344679697
You can shoot up in Metroid and you can't wall jump in II. Metroid II is a little slower than Metroid, but it's necessary due to the screen size.
>>344655686
How the fuck can you C&D something you're not intending to sell? I don't know this well, can anyone explain these retarded "laws"?
Does this mean they can C&D your Pikachu drawing? Where does the line start?
>>344680402
Whoops I meant shooting down while falling.
>>344680276
Not him, but the difference is generally how much a project may potentially cut into the profits of a company. Chrono Trigger, Unreal Engine Ocarina of Time, 3D browser NES Zelda, SMG-style Mario 64, all of those games/demonstrations are things that can potentially cut into profits. The thinking is, why pay $15 to get Mario 64 off the Wii U/NX eshop when I can just download the user-made one and play the game for free?
When games don't cut into potential profit or their developers don't really care - Mother 3, Metroid 2 remake, Sonic 2 HD, etc. - they don't get C&D'd. Also, you could argue that by drawing attention to their root series people will be more likely to explore, and pay for, other and better games within the same series.
I'm just waiting for someone to finally fucking remake Secret of Evermore, where's that shit god damn it?
>>344680940
>I'm just waiting for someone to finally fucking remake Secret of Evermore, where's that shit god damn it?
why would you remake the worse Square Soft game?
>>344680474
Well Squeenix took down the fan remake of Chrono Trigger, never underestimate the jewery of Jap companies.
>>344680474
it's someone using your copyrighted material, they can claim it wasn't authorized or so, it's a project that is entirely different from a simple drawing
>>344680940
How did the Chrono Resurrection project cut into Squeenix profits? They abandoned the series long ago
To be honest I think people who want to invest in such a project should just make their own game heavily inspired by Metroid of CT. They own the rights to Samus, but they can't own the rights to jumping multiple times in the air, copyright an ice attack, copyright an item that resists lava, you get what I'm saying? Spin the project into its own thing. They can even charge for that, and since games similar to Metroid aren't that common today (what was the last one, Axiom Verge years ago?), I don't think the public will mind. It's much worse to copy trend of today, as if you made a game with BamHam combat, towers to climb, open world and with QTEs and takedowns.
A "if Nintendo can't make it, make one yourself" kind of dea.
>>344681204
I loved Secret of Evermore. It's a nostalgia thing, I guess. I feel if someone actually combed over it they could make it more enjoyable.
>>344680474
>...In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include—
>(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
>(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
>(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
>(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
In other words, if it's anything more than a subtle parody, even if not making money, then yes, they can take down every fan-made picture of Pikachu in the world, all for the pursuit of focus-directioning and maximum millions. Problem is they don't have the time or patience to search that deep, legally harass that much of the population and keep it that way.
At least until Hilary approves the Trans-Pacific Partnership bill and sells America to jews.
>>344680474
>>344681468
think of it like this
if you were nintendo and you had plans for a remake of metroid 2 sometime in the future, and then there's this guy who's making the same remake, but when it's done, he'll charge nothing for it
by the time you decide to make your own remake, his product will alredy be around for some time, it could be actually better than yours, and most important of all, it's free
>>344682029
Guess they better take a hint and make something better.
How do these fucks even manage to not know you're not supposed to announce this shit? It's like they want publishers on their radar when it comes to these fan projects.
>>344682906
It's probably some sort of deluded hope that they will buy up their project and release it legitimately. It has to feel a little off that you can make a high quality game and make nothing directly off of it.
>>344655686
They'll C&D it, yeah. Why should some indie developer get free advertising in an extremely competitive market by stealing the game owned by another person.
If I made a game, I wouldn't want some fag remaking it just because he thinks it's ok because he's doing it for free.
ALSO business is business. it's nothin personal, kid.
at least nintendo still sells their old shit. Not like blizzard, refusing to allow people to play a game that doesn't exist anymore.
>>344682906
Well how do you get feedback then?
>>344669453
>why the hell is this treated like a special relic to Metroidbros here?
It isn't. It's usually considered the worst of the series. That's why this guy is remaking it.
>>344684647
Discrete internet friends
>>344684017
>They'll C&D it, yeah.
And then the project just ignores it. Its the best option.
You don't announce the fact you're making it or gonna release it, you just release it so they don't have time to C&D it
>>344684017
>Why should some indie developer get free advertising in an extremely competitive market by stealing the game owned by another person.
>If I made a game, I wouldn't want some fag remaking it just because he thinks it's ok because he's doing it for free.
Because they can and want to make something around an idea people like that the owner won't do. Just as the owner can and want to restrict people's enjoyment for their own benefit.
I'll agree getting money off said idea is shitty and should remain enforced against, but that's it.
