ITT: Objective reasons why TF2 is better than overwatch
hats
the soldier
the scout
pl_badwater
>>344640683
>hats
go fuck yourself
>>344640683
>the soldier
You mean Pharah?
>The scout
You mean Genji?
>hats
>You mean lootboxes?
It used to be. Now they might as well be the same , with the same amount of cancer (waifufags and SFM-fags on one side, hatfags and autistfags on the other).
>>344640645
Pyro is the only good thing to come out of TF2. I always hated the cartoony style, it looks retarded to be completely honest.
Overwatch is cartoony too, but at least it doesn't have weird blocky characters that are all failed attempts at burly males.
Game is pretty overrated.
>>344640683
>hats
Kill yourself
>>344640645
dude yeah I love plastering maps with memes x D
>>344640753
>You mean Pharah?
She's can't do 5 % of what soldier can
>>344640645
TF2 has Capture the Flag.
Overwatch is fun, but despite the different game modes, everything feels the same gameplay-wise, just with different characters. It's all about your entire team versus the entire enemy team all the time.
There's never a situation in Overwatch which requires splitting the team for offense and defense, outside of a King of the Hill match going really, really well for your side.
>>344640645
Weapons, memorable characters, community created content and actual fun.
>>344640645
Doesn't have auto-aim
Despite having lag-compensating hitboxes and shitty pyro hitboxes, at least the hitboxes aren't the size of buildings like in OW
>>344641303
your mum is the size of a building, faggot
>>344641270
kek
>>344641460
The most intelligent OW fan
>>344641270
wouldnt it be the opposite considering tf2's population didnt go down at all when overwatch came out
Ovewatch, while fun, feels very shallow and seems like it will be very short-lived compared to TF2. As someone who spent a lot of time and love in TF2 6-7 years ago (and will play it for a half hour every 8 or 9 months max), even at its current "worst", I have to give it major props for its longevity. The game could have truly exploded in terms of quality and popularity had Valve introduced an official competitive aspect of the game 6 years ago when the talent and demand was there, and not all that stupid shit since Meet the Medic.
TF2 just has/had a spirit about it (when you extract the bronies and anime nerds) that Overwatch just doesn't. The amount of fun TF2 in its prime brought a lot of people I know, including myself, dwarfs Overwatch. TF2 has/had the replayability and fun factor. Overwatch gets stale after 4 games/rounds/whatever.
Maybe it's because I'm an adult playing Overwatch with other shit to do, versus being a young adult in TF2 who still had the patience for games. Not sure. I like Overwatch and jumped the TF2 ship back in 2012, but I gotta give TF2 credit where it's due.
>>344641542
never played it
>>344640645
Custom Sprays.
Custom Maps.
Dedicated Custom Servers, even if it does lead to garbage like trade servers and all that shit.
I don't even need to say anything about the hitboxes or actual gameplay, but the lack of freedom the community has is disgusting.
TF2 isn't a Blizzard game.
TF2 isn't a waifu game.
>>344641303
That was a bug where if your character was nudged by another your aim would stick to the the previous spot, it'd happen the same even without an enemy standing there. They fixed that particular issue though, not that it had too much impact on actual gameplay though which is why you always see this shit with two stationary people taking shots at each other with nothing else going on.
>heavy losing even more now
I've been farming kills for team heavy for 3 days now and it's futile. Pyro faggots will never be happy. They want something like heavy and soldier that can airblast. HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE A WEAK CLASS FUCKERS
>>344640718
>>344640887
>not liking hats
get out of my face nerds
>>344640753
I played TF2 for only about 20 hours. Educated me.
What can soldier do that Pharah can't? Pharah, in my eyes, is an upgraded soldier with auto rocket jumps and hovering abilities.
>>344641695
Overwatch is a Blizzard game.
Overwatch isn't a waifu game.
>>344641303
>People actually believe the hitboxes are like this in the current release.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAue43hU-M0
>>344641615
OW is basically TF2 2.0, though.
>>344641630
>implying community servers are at all alive outside of Trading and 24/7 2fort
Even CS:GO has better community servers. When the last of the community servers I frequented died, I simply stopped playing TF2.
>>344641850
Pyro became insufferable ever since going F2P. Retarded weapons like the Phlog and Backburner have made the Pyro population the most annoying subset of the TF2 playerbase.
32 player servers
that's about it
>>344641891
>Overwatch isn't a waifu game.
>>344640825
>all failed attempts at burly males.
what the fuck am i reading?
>>344641878
Splash damage. Hitscan. Extremely quick horizontal movement.
Soldier is about divebombing and crossing far distances quickly. Pharah doesn't divebomb, she maintains an aerial advantage.
>>344642030
>>implying community servers are at all alive outside of Trading and 24/7 2fort
Does that matter?
Whether or not people actually use them doesn't make removing the option a good thing. Don't defend removal of choice.
Besides, now that Valve pubs have been switched out for the garbage matchmaking system, I've seen a decent spike in community server activity.
>>344641891
Keep dreaming
![WTRS028MKR1_Balloonicorn-Hoodie2_FRONT-1000x1000[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/guMzIwK.jpg "WTRS028MKR1_Balloonicorn-Hoodie2_FRONT-1000x1000[1].jpg")
is /v/ man enough to wear this?
>>344641878
soldier require skill and pharah dosn't
>>344642580
I'd buy it if I had the cashi'm afraid my parents would disown me on the spot though
>>344641542
I like both now what?
>>344643874
>caring what your parents think
HAHAHAHHAHAHAH LOOK AT THIS FAGGOT
Player limit
If i wanted to play 6vs6 matches i would play a moba. I play tf for the absolute carnage and chaos of 32+ servers.
>>344641270
neat
>>344641270
honestly true desu
>>344641270
>I don't care about you
>that's why I made this picture and I post it in every TF2 thread
>>344641303
>30fps
LOOOOOOOOOOOOL STOP PLAYING GAMES GO MAKE A LIVING SO YOU CAN AFFORD AN ACTUAL COMPUTER
>>344642580
>pyro's puffy vulva hood
>>344644550
MOBAs and shooters are not the same style of games. It's like saying "Well if I wanted a 1 v 1 game, I'll go play a RTS.
You can have 6 v 6 in more than a single genre.
tf2 is great because you can vote for team pyro x3
Does it have a WarioWare game mode yet?
>>344645015
does it have any custom game modes yet period
Surf maps
Does Overwatch have developer supported community content akin to TF2's?
>>344640645
I'm so mad this got taken out of CS. Why. Why Valve why.
the lack of custom sprays and servers in overwatch seriously bothers me
But there are no hot girls in TF2.
>>344644935
Its just a personal opinion, i dont play shooters for the teamplay, i play them for the "everything is on fire and everyone is dead" sensation. Thats why i stopped playing CoD when MW 2 Removed dedicated server, before that i always used to play on the 64 players servers, same thing with all the shooters ive played since the late 90s. Overwatch just doesnt work at that level, i would consider playing it if they released alternative game modes that remove the player limit.
A asked a guy why he prefered Overwatch over TF2 and he replied "WAIFUS"
I like the Arena game mode where the map is smaller and you only have one life.
>>344640645
TF2 actually requires some amount of skill.
OW is like a paddling pool. It's literally like HOTS in 3D.
>>344640645
The freedom it offers.
You aren't limited to 6v6. You can play matches ranging from 1v1 to 16v16.
There are thousands of community created maps.
There are hundreds community created gamemodes, as well as 20 official ones.
Hundreds of weapons, that change how classes are played or even create new sub-classes.
Thousands of cosmetic items that can be modified even further, allowing you to create a unique character
appearance. And if you aren't a fan of hats you can always mod them out.
The ability to change and customize your in-game HUD.
It's completely free. You can get all of the unique weapons for the equivalent of $0.50.
>>344646178
>TF2 actually requires some amount of skill.
>mfw TF2 poorfags really believe this
>>344646043
Because TF2 isn't the same it was 5 or 4 years ago. It's filled to the brim with shitty cosmetics, dumb, nonsensical weapons, people who care more about hats than gameplay and garbage custom servers with terrible, unbalanced maps and game-modes.Also because I sold off my entire $500 inventory 4 years ago
>>344646043
Who's A, and does he have more info about which a guy he asked
>>344646389
Competitive tf2 was far more interesting and took way more skill than Overwatch. Soldier, scout, and demoman in a 6v6 had a way higher skill ceiling to play than literally every Overwatch hero.
>>344646449
>people who care more about hats than gameplay
>It's filled to the brim with shitty cosmetics
>Also because I sold off my entire $500 inventory 4 years ago
U for real.
>>344641596
Sure, but tf2's population didn't go up at all when an update trying to compete with overwatch came out.
>>344646449
>It's filled to the brim with shitty cosmetics
Which you can easily ignore
>dumb, nonsensical weapons
Which you can't easily counter using other dumb, nonsensical weapons
>people who care more about hats than gameplay
That's what you get for joining pubs
>and garbage custom servers with terrible, unbalanced maps and game-modes
Why do you play in custom servers anyways?
>>344646483
I*
>>344640645
Every single character is way better than any of the ones in Overwatch.
>>344646731
>you can't
Can*
>>344646524
Yes. I never traded while in-game, unlike many others.
Pubs were basically unplayable in the last couple of years that I played, since a lot of people were either afking or spamming the chat with their retarded trade call-outs.
The only thing left were pugs, but once most of my friends stopped playing - so did I.
>>344641460
>your mum is the size of a building
I wish
>>344641850
FUCK YOU
TEAM PYRO ASSEMBLE
>>344640645
Hats!... no wait...
The Community!... well shit...
Steam!... fuck...
Art style?
>>344646796
>bunch of boring white guys all dressed the same and a token POC, all with shallow bland personalities that are only played for cheap laughs
>better than the diverse and colorful cast of Overwatch and their intricate, detailed backstories
>>344646961
Art style
Banter
Characters
Gore
Maps
Game modes
Cosmsetics
Skill ceiling
Competitive scene
>>344646978
The TF2 guys are funny and memorable. You can name all of them. Can you remember the names of every overwatch character off the top of your head?
>>344646978
>diverse and colorful cast of Overwatch and their intricate, detailed backstories
too obvious
>>344641851
>liking hats
>being the cancer that killed TF2
the only people that hate cosmetics have no fashion sense
>>344647054
>Can you remember the names of every overwatch character off the top of your head?
Do you have memory issues? I can remember all of them and I don't even play that game, just being exposed to them being spammed 24/7 by blizzdrones should be enough to memorize their names
>>344641878
1 guy in the entire world can do shazbot rocket jumps at 9 trillion QPU units around the map, so TF2 soldier is a high skill MLG class for rocket scientists and physicists only.
>>344647378
I main Pharah. And ironically enough, what you described is actually the TF2 soldier skill ceiling compared to that of Pharah.
medic here
heal priority goes from best dressed to gibus
>>344640645
TF2
>You are a ragtag team of misfits and imbeciles. Your job is to drag your worthless bag of flesh to the objective and win! Use whatever questionable arsenal at your disposal to complete your mission, whatever the cost.
Overwatch
>The world needs more heroes like you, player! You are special, strong, intelligent and unique, like the other 5 members of your team! Each of you are gifted with powerful abilities that could shift the tide of battle! Remember to always love yourself as I reward you with a kill if you as much sneezed at a defeated enemy player. We also added POTG just to celebrate those very special players, who happened to have killed more players by pressing Q.
>>344640683
>hats
You and your kind ruined the game.
>>344644707
underrated post
>Characters are objectively more fleshed out and the story and characters in general are more interesting
>Far more gamemodes
>Modding and map making tools
>Community servers and server browser
>Non-gigantic hitboxes
>More useful voice commands
>Gitting gud at TF2 requires hundreds of hours of practicing advanced movement techniques in additon to aiming, whereas OW is just aiming at liberal hitboxes with easy to land skillshots/abilities that usually guarantee free or easy kills
>Custom sprays
>Not made by Blizzard so you can't get banned for berating shitters or having fun with exploits
OW has TF2 beat with polish and overall feel though.
>>344647903
>Also we got rid of the scoreboard so you don't need to feel bad about playing shit.
Shooting Mercy is illegal in Overwatch
>>344640718
>I don't have any hats
I'm sorry
>>344646701
>tf2's population didn't go up at all when an update trying to compete with overwatch came out.
Meaning what exactly? Do you seriously believe they tried to poach Overwatch players with that patch? lmao
>>344648249
They obviosly tried to dip their cup in the competitive well when they saw how well received it was with certain other compeators, grantid, its been in the works for little over a year, but overwatch pushed the release
>>344647172
>le ebin hats killed le tf2 meme xd
>>344646701
The update was unplayable on day one (as is tradition). This week (maybe even today) we are getting a fix that hopefully is going to shorten queue times and add all the features requested by the community.
>>344646731
>Why do you play in custom servers anyways?
Because quickplay is filled BR's and 12 year olds and other people attracted to f2p over everything else. Also because all my friends quit years ago as well, and in my steam friends list of 100+ nearly all of whom were picked up from Tf2, none of them play Tf2 anymore, ever.
I'm pretty sure most people who played during its heyday left, and it's no surprise considering it was on a decline post-2011. Cosmetics got increasingly garish, performance got worse because Valve never bothered with LoS models, the team working on Tf2 got smaller and lazier every update. It was a dozen or so people in 2012, I'd be surprised if it's more than 5 now, and most of the "content" they add in is user-created anyway. The maps that are getting added more look like shit, so even the quality control for that went downhill.
The weapons they added got weirder and weirder over time, with the last decent weapon pack being the engi update. In fact, nearly every major update besides the class updates should never have happened. Uber was okay, MvM was good, this new one is good but just too little too late. Going through a list of major tf2 updates, the vast majority are trash, some straight up detrimental to the game. Half the weapons are weird, useless, and unbalanced gimmicks, shit like Mann Up mode clearly shows the Tf2 team is massively out of touch, and is just throwing shit and seeing what sticks.
>>344648716
You have literally no clue about anything, yet you choose to run your mouth and show everyone you're a retard.
>>344641303
why does this never happen for me as McCree? Not as Hanzo either honestly despite the memes
>>344648652
I don't get the complaints about queue times. I've been playing since release and both comp and casuals queues have been less than 1 minute for me every time.
I'm European, maybe that has an effect on it?
>>344640683
this is coming from the context of someone who likes tf2 and hasn't played overwatch
>hats
absolutely not, while we're at it cosmetics are shit too, they need a toggle to turn that shit off
>the soldier
maybe if that cuck robin would stop buffing him to the point of being bullshit overpowered he would be a positive
>the scout
agreed
>badwater
fun maps are a point in its favor, yeah
>>344641102
6/7 of the ctf maps are shit, the other 1/7 are doublecross
turbine would also make it if it didn't drag on forever
2fort is shit, 2fort invasion is shit, sawmill is better as control point, well is better as control point, and i've never played landfall
>>344649086
That may be it. I'm europeean as well, and queues were really short for me. I guess that it's just NA/AUS that has problems.
>>344641036
Can soldier scissor with her lesbian fuckbuddy in the sky?
chekmate
>>344649460
>>344640645
It takes skill and is not a fucking spamfest. Tha'ts it. I enjoy overwatch but none of the classes are really hard to master and it's often just luck/pure spamming which decides the game.
>>344649086
Mostly because there were no waiting lines before.
>>344648716
Nothing captures the over-experimental feel of Tf2 than the way the dlc model changed over time. On the surface, it's fantastic, 9 years and running of free content, but holy shit is it a mess. It started out nearly perfect, class weapons and new maps/game modes, with the one problem being that you could only get weapons from achievement milestones, giving rise to achievement servers and forcing people to grind for the free content, which makes no sense considering there was no way to just buy them. Then random drops happened, which are okay for cosmetics and such, but obviously a bad idea for weapons. Especially when weapons which couldn't be obtained by achievements came out, random drops were a terrible system. Crafting alleviated that somewhat, it was a grind, but at least a more passive grind than being achievement-based. Trading honestly sorta hurt the community, but at least it provided a way to reliably get the weapons you want by trading away shit you don't care about.
The whole crate system is cancer, I've never bought a crate in Tf2 or a loot box in OW, but at least in OW crates are just the equivalent of skipping through the natural progression that gives you cosmetics, and it never tries to shove the option in your face. Every half hour you play Tf2 it decides to dump a crate into your inventory and go "Haha looks like you'll need to buy a key now just kidding haha your choice ;)". It's a complete farce, the game has 5 or 6 different dlc models all mashed into one muddy, unpolished mess, half of which could have been avoided if when the Medic update came out it had set the precedent to make all weapons immediately available. Would have also alleviated the power creep since they wouldn't be able to start the class updates off with a blatant upgrade of a weapon.
>>344648928
no u
>>344649086
i've been getting 5min+ wait times even at peak hours and i'm in michigan
out of five or so queues, one was like fifteen minutes, one was ten minutes, two were between five and ten, and only one was below five minutes
>>344649098
>complaining about CTF taking forever
mate CTF is the fun do-whatever-you-want deathmatch mode, it's not supposed to matter who wins or how long it takes
DM skill ceiling, air movement / control, comfier artstyle & theme, no ultimates
>>344650032
that's what 24/7 servers are for
besides, we already have a deathmatch mode, it's called arena
it's especially bad with the new matchmaking system, since you can't just dc whenever you want, but even before that i hated playing ctf except on doublecross and occasionally turbine
>>344650250
You can dc now whenever you want.
Read: http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=22797 .
>>344650250
>it's especially bad with the new matchmaking system, since you can't just dc whenever you want
I wonder if the whole "unable to join game until the one you left ends" shtick is actually a glitch.
>>344650416
There's no abandonment penalty anymore, but you're still not allowed to join another game.
>>344650416
oh, huh, good
>>344650476
You're not allowed to join the game you left.
No ultimates
>>344647054
genji
hanzo
reaper
mercy
tracer
reindhart
lucio
Easy.
>>344648031
filename triggered me.
the lyrics is "You're crazy in the coconut"
>>344642310
>Hitscan
But that is a flaw in programing that only benefits you as an incidental.
>>344640645
It's not made by nuBlizzard.
It's wasn't cancer right at launch.
It doesn't equate females with males.
The characters are not over the top meme weeaboo bullshit.
Much lower system requirements.
Older and therefore more balanced.
TF2 is free to play.
Also, hats.
>>344640645
Easy to learn
Cartoon visuals that are memorable
Set in end 1960s - mid 1970s, lots of influences there
Fun and fast games
Voiceovers that are fully recognizable
Started with no background and slowly developed over time
CUSTOM MAPS (cp_desperados, ctf_convoy, cp_lazytown aka no room for hell, that pl map with a rocket station at the third stage, mario_kart 2009 edition and more...)
The Medic/Heavy duo
Crits
>>344651126
u forgot widow maker and i dont even play OW
CHECKMATE
>>344651884
>TF2 is free to play.
A lotta people going to disagree with you about that. And yeah, visual style and character design fucking god tier. All those comics and shit. I don't think any people besides Valve capable of making this. Even Blizzard can't pull this shit out without dirty tricks anymore.
Do sprays still work? I haven't been able to see anyone use them for the past 3 years unless it's a community server or something.
>>344646389
TF2 Requires skill if you want to be great at it. I mean with powers like high noon and aimbot, OW competitive is a joke when compared to TF2
>>344640645
>blah blah this is objectively blah blah play the games i like not the ones you like blah blah
the people who'd rather play overwatch don't fucking care since they are actually having some god damn fun
also tf2 is almost 10 god damn years old, jesus fucking christ the autism in you virgins is just pathetic
I'm only eighteen, so fairly young compared to a lot of 4chan's user base, but I think it's important to note for this.
I've spent the past 4-5 years of my life glued to my chair and computer screen, growing depressed from teenage hormones and out of shape from lack of movement. My social life was falling apart, with my friends lacking in care for me or my life, and my parents and I were butting heads more often than I'd like to admit.
The only thing keeping me from being incredibly fat is my unnaturally fast metabolism, which has somehow kept me under 200lbs despite my diet of exclusively sodas and fast food. I thought that there was no hope for me to get in shape, get a real social life, or to ever bother even going outside.
But since Overwatch on PS4 has come out, so much insane shit has developed for me. The great pain in my brain is proof that not only did I need all this forced 50, but I'm benefiting from it. I've been going on 1-2 hour or so long a day pressing Q with my dad, which has been amazing. The relationship between us is improving, and we have not only an activity in common but a chance to have real conversations. For once, I'm off of my computer. While most of my life has been spent 16 hours a day at my desk in a filthy room, for the past 4 or so days now I've spent no more than an hour in my room. The rest of my time has been spent in the living room with my family.
I'm not super sure whether this is Overwatch itself or just having an excuse to be outside, but either way my attitude towards life is completely changing. I'm making real friends from the game, and I'm putting attention into my appearance. I've told my dad I'd like to start eating much better lately, and I've made plans to get my driver's permit soon. Whether it's being rank 22 or enjoying hitboxes, Overwatch seems to have changed my life.
>>344640825
Is this your way of saying TF2 is low polycount? The game is fairly old now so obviously the character models are going to be "blocky"
>>344652865
They do work only on community servers.
>>344641850
Pyro is the go to class for cancer memesters and pony furfags. No surprise its winning.
I like to play pyro from time to time but for every normal pyro players i see 10 pyros with flaming dildos on their forheads and cropped furry porn / pony avatars.
Have they fixed the update yet?
>>344653168
Kinda.
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=22797
More fixes are expected to come out in this week, if not today.
>>344640645
better characters and voice acting
better dialogue and story that doesn't try so hard and makes sense unlike overwatch
long-time support from Valve (TF2 has been worked on for 18 years)
better music
mod support
custom mode and map support
community server support
on steam instead of battle.net which only has like 5 games
sprays
more cosmetics (people on /v/ can pretend like they don't fawn over the overwatch lootbox cosmetics, but I know you do)
better art-tyle with actual team-colored uniforms instead of a giant team colored health bar over peoples' heads
No stupid skills with cooldowns or absurd one-shot or aimbot/wallhack ultimates
>>344653025
>just turn off your brain
But i like to think about stuff.
>>344653423
you can cut the long-time support and I'm okay with this
>>344648514
>"Hmm, people keep calling me garbage because I really, really like this new cosmetic focused development plan"
>"Well, I'm sure they're just nerds and the whole thing is a big meme, no way I'm the cancer."
quick play needs to stay dead
the people who don't like it are the shitters at the bottom of the scoreboard.
>>344641270
If >>344644707 isn't your first thought after seeing one of these you're a dumbass. I'm so sick of seeing this applied to fucking everything.
>lol you're so below me I don't even think of you, did you hear that, I don't care so get fucking rekt. I don't spare a single thought for your worthless ass. What's that? Only 3 (you)s, better look for more threads
>>344653457
>tf2 requires more thinking that overwatch
kek, sure buddy
>>344653784
>people
not people, just you
>>344640645
Are these going to be the new "dota vs lol" threads? Anyway.
TF2:
>free
>higher skill ceiling through physics/mechanics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7jelqvvzxE
>better dialogue and writing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzZ6GrRTgrM
>minimal visual clutter by design (eg- Spy's face mask indicating his disguise to allies)
>lots and lots of content and customization available
>highly moddable, level editor, lots of options
>many dedicated and community servers
>many balanced maps on offer
>dated graphics and performance
Overhyped:
>40 dollarydoos
>lower skill ceiling, very few heroes that are complex or difficult to play at their highest potential
>uninspired dialogue and writing: "die, die, die"
>Fucking full of visual clutter and floaty shit
>only content/customization available at this point is stock maps and LoL-tier skins
>unmoddable, no level editor, few options
>20tick servers, basically no custom servers allowed
>all maps are flawed in design and contain single chokes such as Temple of Anubis
>fresh graphics and performance
The only advantage Overcrotch has over TF2 is graphics. In every other area - cost, skill, dialogue, readability, content, customization, moddability, map design- TF2 is the better game.
>>344647802
I just heal whoever has low health, but other than that, this is the objective truth of healing in TF2.
>>344654005
I didn't say that. I mean playing game just because it's exist is retarded. Since when being retarded became a good thing? Probably after MW2.
>>344655017
>I mean playing game just because it's exist is retarded
wat
when did anybody say that
>>344653025
>don't fucking care"
>shits up every TF2 thread before their bedtime
sure buddy.
>>344655237
>just play the game
>stop being autistic about things
Apparently no one.
>>344655337
this isn't exclusively a tf2 thread, retard
also, i post like once a month on this entire site; probably not even that
>>344655582
are you trying to make sense?
>>344640645
Free to play killed the game.
it's pretty funny seeing how many delusional /tf2/ posters there are on /v/ after the launch of a game that directly competes with it
everyone used to hate tf2, it was complete and utter trash that no one should be subjected to, but now overwatch launched, suddenly the tf2 shitposting reaches new heights
just play games you fucking weirdos, no wonder servers eventually close, y'all stop playing games just to shitpost about how much you're "enjoying" it
>>344640645
Only south american poorshits with Pentium III's and bronies still play TF2.
>It's another TF2 shill thread
Please stop, your game is dead.
TF2 needs Overwatch style lootboxes that gives weapons or cosmetics after each level up in casual, but gives more boxes if you rank up in Comp.
Y/N?
>>344655995
>It's another Blizzshill post.
>>344640645
How about the ability to mod the game.
And host private servers.
And join game lobbies.
And it's free.
>>344655830
>everyone used to hate tf2
yeah, this is really funny
the game got tons of shit for being casual and anyone saying it takes a miniscule ounce of skill to be good at was laughed at
>>344656054
It already has, the last update included them.
>>344656291
Yes but you have to buy them anon.
>>344655830
>everyone used to hate tf2
t. newfag
>unironical CoD threads
>unironical TF2 threads
Has Reddit taken over?
>>344641270
But Overwatch wouldn't exist if it didn't think of TF2 in the first place.
>>344656350
t. TF2 brony
>>344648031
>>Not made by Blizzard so you can't get banned for berating shitters or having fun with exploits
I cant believe people got banned for glitching overwatch
>>344656369
yeah has been this way for years now
>>344640645
I've played both games, 3k hours into TF2, 200 hours into OW. I'm not going to be a one sided faggot like the ususal poster, so this is what I think each game does better:
What TF2 does better than OW:
>Characters & Humor
>Skill ceilings
>Content and Modes
>Customization
>Allows slight modding (sv_pure 1 killed a lot of it)
>Speed and Movement
>Community Servers/ Fan Modes
What Overwatch does better than TF2:
>Much higher graphical fidelity
>Polish
>Servers are significantly more stable
>Better matchmaking system
>Balance
>Blizzard actually cares about the game
>Updates actually get tested.
>Superior Hacker detection and ban system
>Runs pretty smoothly
>Skins are unlocked through playing
>Skins cannot be traded
>Finding a game is significantly easier (RIP Quickplay)
TF2 actually LOST a lot of its upsides in the latest patch, which is unfortunate.
>tfw your tf2 community server is dead
>tfw you will never play tf2 at its height again
overwatch is good and all but it's just not the same
>>344654659
>all these people pretending that TF2 isn't and hasn't always been the biggest casual shitfest that valve ever shit out
History truly is written by the victor
And one day, people will be saying the same about Overwatch. Mark my words.
>>344641270
It should be the opposite
>>344656623
>>344656913
You don't even know the meaning of the word ''argument'', ponyfag.
It's a nice game, but it's pretty obvious TF2's best days are long over.
>>344656998
Project harder, summerchild.
>>344644707
lel
I wish they reveal the pyro's face before they finish TF2 support.
>>344641878
The soldier has a higher skill ceiling, a higher skill floor and when played well has a much bigger impact on the game than Pharah.
A shit soldier is shit and no better than any other class. A good one is the best class in the game for "you die now".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAEOiIF8Piw
This shit's not even incredibly hard or autistic to learn. But it does require actual effort and a desire to get good.
>>344657182
>TF2 player knowing the meaning of the word ''project''
Nope.
>>>/mlp/
>>344656842
But that anon didn't imply that tf2 wasn't plagued with casuals from day one.
>>344656697
>TF2 actually LOST a lot of its upsides in the latest patch, which is unfortunate.
How?
only poor people and autists play tf2
>>344656842
I'll pass marking words of a person who doesn't understand comparative forms of adjectives.
I remember the days when people used to bitch about valve servers all the time
now you guys are mourning them?
>>344657797
He's implying that it has some high skill ceiling because of rocket jumping.
I bet in years come people will be hailing Lucio's wall riding as Overwatch having a high skill ceiling.
It's dumb shit and irrelevant. TF2's skill ceiling is floor level regardless of some montage with hip music
>>344657867
How's high school?
>>344658081
le edgy teen strawman xd
>>344641878
Can you say you've ever practiced anything with Pharah?
Like, sat down and said "I'm going to learn to do X"?
Because you have to do that for a lot of TF2 classes when learning to not be shit.
tf2 takes thousands of hours to get good at
>>344640645
Higher tick rate. That's literally it. But the extremely terrible community, cosmetic focus, and staler gameplay makes me find Overwatch more fun.
>>344658229
or use lmaobox like all the highlander snipers
>>344658214
What are you learning to do with Soldier? Rocket Jumping? Is that seriously it?
>>344658340
he has to learn how to point and click at the ground lmao what the fuck dude xDDD
>>344658074
>People can do a somewhat difficult thing that has a huge impact on how a class is played and that class is balanced around
>"Nuh uh it doesn't matter!"
Lucio's wall-riding isn't half of why he's good, nor nearly as flexible, you dumb shit.
Both games are enjoyable and fun, why must everyone always fight about this shit using strawmans arguments and end up more angry than before
>>344658340
And learning how to use other weapons and combos.
>>344658507
Because /v/ is filled with children
>>344652842
>A lotta people going to disagree with you about that
People need to stop and realize that whether a game is free or not it doesn't matter, look at Overwatch or CoD, it's filled to the fucking BRIM with children. The players are gonna be cancer whether it's f2p or not.
>>344658340
Rocket jumping, airshots, divebombing people and knowing when to, juggling people with your rockets, crossing the entire map on a single reload.
>>344658542
Oh yes, TF2's best addition, adding weapons that everyone has complained about since the beginning of time and makes them yearn for the days of base TF2
>>344658685
Wow look, aside from rocket jumping, it's things Pharah can do. You listed Rocket Jumping twice though.
>>344640645
sprays were pretty damn manipulable, even though they were limited to 512 kb, which meant a 11 frame 256x256 gif, 45 frame 128x128 gif, or a 180 frame 64x64 gif, which goes for 35 seconds.
Sprays for overwatch are shit and part of the rewards package. Blizzard should have given this crap for free, but I guess newfags are oblivious on how easily they're shat on.
>>344656842
Skill floor=/=skill ceiling, moron
and no matter how casual you call TF2, it's less so than "press Q to awesome!!" aka Overhyped
>>344645786
It would change the T rating to a AO. You know people are going to abuse it and put disgusting shit.
>>344656842
pretty much
someone screencap that
>>344658791
>Pharah can swap her secondary slot weapon to switch between an aggressive air-based pick character and a solid wall of meat backed up by the medic with hitscan to defend them
>Pharah ONLY relies on her rockets, she can't get kills any other way
>Pharah requires decision-making because your momentum matters
Her jetpack automatically makes her way easier than the Soldier when it comes to moving in the air. They're different, but she's still the easier character with a lower skill ceiling.
Stay mad.
>>344656913
sorry meant for >>344656350
>>344640645
>{TEMA HEAVY} Toast with JELLY!: MEDIC!
What's the point of this thread, are you trying to convince Overwatch players to play TF2? I thought playing Overwatch made you a shitter?
>TF2 threads
>it's always about finding any ways to hate Overwatch instead of talking about the game
>Overwatch threads
>it's actual game discussion
Are TF2 players feeling self-conscious or something? Not a single TF2 thread has actually been about TF2 since Overwatch came out.
>>344644707
same with all variations of this image
>>344659168
>Pharah relies on direct hits while soldier can get by on splash damge
>Pharah ONLY has her rockets and can't switch to an easier to use hitscan weapon
>Pharah is far less tanky than the soldier, dying quickly
>enemies in OW are harder to juggle because Overwatch doesn't have moon gravity
Sorry.
>>344658229
No it doesn't. It only takes thousands of hours if it's your first FPS.
>>344641891
>Overwatch isn't a waifu game.
I really hope you aren't stupid enough to actually think this.
>>344659351
Their game is dying so they have to try and sway the popular /v/ opinion to make it popular like STALKER or New Vegas
>>344659934
>New Vegas
Is this a subtle Toddpost
>>344659351
>TF2 just got a huge update
>no discussion about it, just endless shitposting and falseflagging over overwatch
honestly depressing to see a game you spent hundreds of hours in just wither away needlessly
>>344659351
>Being stupid
Maybe because you didn't pay attention to them. We had a good discussion about the latest update a few days ago.
>>344659708
>Splash damage that does heavily reduced damage and has a linear damage to shit aim ratio, as opposed to Pharah's fast as fuck rockets in a game with huge hitboxes and many more chokepoints
>Pharah has cooldown-based abilities that might as well be "COLLECT KILLS" buttons
>Tankiness mattering in a game with Mercy and Lucio, and no class limits
>Overwatch doesn't have stupid gravity physics
it survived longer than a month unlike overwatch did, hell even hearthstone lasted longer and it's a pay2win card game
>>344660057
No you didn't. It was just constant comparison to Overwatch competitive. Because even though the two comps are virtually the same the TF2 fanbase is still angsty over Overwatch.
>>344660057
>>Being stupid
>Maybe because you didn't pay attention to them. We had a good discussion about the latest update a few days ago.
>few days ago
>actual discussion
>on a board where video games are discussed 24/7
>few days ago
>are you stupid lol? overwatch sucks lol
Are you for real dude?
>>344659351
>Overwatch threads
>it's actual game discussion
Did you browse some Bizarro /v/? Unless " I want Mercy to be my mother" is actual game discussion.
>>344660098
What are you talking about? OW is still alive
>>344658791
>w-well pharah can do the same
But that's significantly easier.She has fucking gliding. That's the whole point.
>>344659351
>Overwatch threads
>it's actual game discussion
Sorry Blizzard, but "HNNNNGGG I WANT TO CUM INSIDE MEI" and "SHARE YOUR EPIC OVERWATCH MEMES" don't count as actual game discussion.
>>344660324
>people discussing the game doesn't count as discussing the game
Medic is still significantly more satisfying than all of the OW supports.
>>344660185
>>344660195
I'm not talking about that thread, dumbass. A different one where the OP never mentioned Overwatch and the subject was only brought up by one or two anons, and never pursued. People were discussing TF2 and the latest update, and what it meant for the game.
>"No! You were talking about us! I mean Overwatch!"
>>344645015
There's a non official one.
Look up tf2ware in the server browser
>>344660057
>Pharah has cooldown-based abilities that might as well be "COLLECT KILLS" buttons
>not even knowing what you're talking about
This explains everything.
The only cooldowns Pharah has is a ranged knockback that does no damage and a rocket boost that shoots her into the air. Her ultimate roots her in place and makes her very easy to kill. But that also isn't a cooldown.
>>344660201
>>344660324
>lying
That hardly even happens on the general in /vg/.
>>344657798
If the tf2 servers break (it happens every week), you cannot even launch a game.
Theres a match cordinator you have to be connected to to play the game, so if that goes, the entire game goes. Happened last night actually.
>>344640976
I mean, the ability to express yourself with a spray is pretty cool
Sure people are gonna use it to spray things you don't like but that's just the nature of the world.
>>344641850
>he is supposed to be a weak class
no that's spy
>>344660884
You're too level headed to be in /v/. Leave before your life is tuined.
>>344655617
Never said this was exclusively a TF2 thread. but lately there has been an abundance of blizzshills shitting up actual TF2 threads.
>>344660884
>spraying your favorite fetish material on the wall
>people look at it in disgust and complain about it
There's something gratifying about this that no other game can supply
>>344660402
When you hit the crossbow bolt just right
>>344660625
>Doing damage at a relatively average rate because of your class and access to damage-dealing isn't essentially a cooldown
Sure, bud.
>>344641850
He's not supposed to be fucking weak, when valve released the game he was meant to be a fucking ambushing offence class.
But people whined so fucking much that dieing to fire and the pyros ambush fire and forget playstyle was some how more annoying than being mowed down by a barely aware heavy or gibbed by a soilder in 0.5 seconds valve had no choice but to nerf him to fucking shit and give him some utility to try and make up for it, rendering him a kind of lame support character.
And people aren't happy with that, especially not in pubs, since it's more fun to just go solider and blow people up.
>>344660730
I've only been unable to launch TF2 when I lost internet. Try using the server browser to find a community server you would enjoy. You won't be able to access unlocks and hats but you can still actually play the game.
That feeling when you pop your uber at just the right time.
>>344661258
I have no idea what you're talking about. If you mean the ultimate, it builds off of the damage you deal. So if you die before you can hit anyone or miss a lot you won't be getting your ultimate for awhile.
If you mean that reloading is somehow a cooldown: what are you smoking?
>>344661183
>even tryhard comp demomen miss half of their pipes
lol
>>344661334
They've wised up and made him an actually useful support character as of late. Tied with Engineer and Medic for raw utility, now.
>>344661103
Play on servers where doing that is bannable.
Problem solved.
>>344654659
but lol at least has a few skins that can change your strat, like frostfire annie
>>344661460
I'm saying that if you deal an average amount of damage with an average lifespan, of course it's a fucking cooldown. It varies depending on how you do, but it IS based upon time elapsed.
>"Just pubstomp and you'll have it back up again!"
It's like saying the Medic's ubercharge isn't tied to game time. It varies based upon circumstances but you can almost always guess within seconds when it'll be back up, if you're not stupid.
>>344659708
with those hitboxes we can say that pharah has splash damage
>>344648967
Because this webm is from beta, and was part of a bug report
>>344658186
le edgy poor autist strawman xd
do you ever stop to think what you write?
>>344661747
I mean you can get two ultimates in the time it takes for the same character on the opposing team to get one. Take that as you will, I'm still not sure what you're talking about. Uber isn't a cooldown either.
>>344661776
She does have splash damage, it just lowers her damage by a large amount. Soldier barely has any falloff.
>>344659351
>TF2 thread
>start out with game discussion
>OW shitposter comes in
>people start talking shit about OW
That's how recent TF2 threads usually go.
>overwatch with tf2 style maneuverability and non retarded hitboxes
when will it happen bros
>>344662049
Pretty much.
>>344653992
>stomp every game
>now everyone is forced to see my pony avatar at the top with the most points and damage
feels good fAm
>>344659351
Overwatch is never brought up in tf2 threads until blizzcucks show up, and when they do show up the keep whining until the thread dies whenever they btfo
>>344653992
>quickplay comes
>"jesus christ what is this shit, pubs are shit Valve needs to end it"
>Valve ends it with matchmaking
>"jesus jesus christ what is this shit, Valve bring back quickplay that was so good"
>>344662251
Except the OP is literally about Overwatch.
>>344641596
>this is what tf2 babbies actually think
