>you can download malware off of steam now
What the fuck is valve doing?
seriously what the fuck is going on
>Not free because it requires a monthly fee to use
>Listed as free on Steam
>Requires kernel access to your computer
Holy fuck.
>>344617579
>Requires kernel access to your computer
For what purpose?
>>344617665
To make sure you're not cheating, obviously.
>>344617665
Your own safety
>guys it's free
LOL, retards are defending this.
It's like saying Blizzard gives you free client but you need to pay monthly just to play.
what is this even for
I know what ESEA is, but what is it? A matchmaking client or something?
>>344617327
>using steam
>>344617965
says cs:go and tf2 in the description
separate server browser using their own "anti-cheat" algorithms
>>344617965
A matchmaking service, most commonly seen employed in CS:GO and TF2.
>anti cheat clients
enjoy those intermittent lag spikes
>>344617435
>Demons
scared.jpg
>>344617965
It install bitcoin mining software on your computer
>>344618386
Not to mention ESEA getting caught a couple years ago using people's computers for their bitcoin mining racket.
>>344618404
is there a source for this? i need a good laugh
i saw someone else say it in the user reviews but everyone calls a random program a bitcoin miner nowadays
>>344617665
No cheating allowed, goyim! You didn't need all those processor cycles anyways, we'll put them to good use mining bitcoins for ourselves.
>post yfw this actually fucking happened and ESEA still exists
>>344618468
Google it, basically someone installed one in the program awhile back who programed it. What people probably left out was the guy got in deep shit and fined a fuck ton for it.
Oh look it's /v/. Who doesn't know shit about esea or cs or even how this works, is overeacting like bitches
>>344618674
except esea client is used to farm buttcoins ya goof
How the fuck does this shit get through?
![CuMmNns[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/iYERC9O.png "CuMmNns[1].png")
>>344618468
because they very well could be. It's the peril of proprietary software.
>>344618858
You should've seen the day one tags.
>Psychological Horror
>Illuminati
>Horror
>Anime
>Family-Friendly
>>344617327
>Demons
>>344618404
>we mine bitcoins from their cpu's cycles, take them into battle with us
Really ESEA?
>>344619084
Fucking hell.
>>344618674
>blindly allowing a kernel level driver
>that is known malware
>so you can have the privelige of paying
>for matchmaking
>in a microtransaction-riddled remake of a mod for half-life
That's five levels of casual right there. Please die so you don't destroy my hobby any further than your sort already has.
>>344618826
the miner and guy who put it in is gone
>>344618674
Thank you for proving to me that ESEA is still somehow in business and that they actually post here to pretend everything's okay.
>>344619463
>top players and teams in the world use esea
>hating on it because casualizing?
Git out of muh hobby and go back to overwatch
>>344617327
At least it's better than Windows 10
>>344619680
Whoah, you mean important people use esea? Hold on let me buy it.
>>344619583
Doesn't matter. They don't get a second chance for shit like this.
>>344619680
>Muh pro gaymers esports streams
>>344619680
>the top people use it
>they couldn't be wrong
>they couldn't possibly be huge fucking retards who don't read TOS's like every one else
>>344619680
>Installing malware just because the cool kids did
You're so impressionable it's cute.
>>344619463
>microtransaction-riddled
what are you talking about?
>>344617825
but multiple Blizzard games are 100% free. Not fun, but still free
>>344619583
And yet they still require your permission to access your passwords in the user agreement.
Fuck this malware.
>>344619627
holy fuck once again Steam forums filled with retarded fanboys
>if everything is made of atoms
>and food has atoms
>then everything is food!
>>344619335
>yfw proprietary software installs a bitcoin miner
>>344619680
There seriously can't be ESEA shills. This is some Chinese tier shit.
>>344620118
>>344620063
>>344619990
>>344619975
>>344619954
>>344619920
>scans your pc
>ZOMG MALWARE
Any proof that it is malware?
>>344620116
is dat sum oc i c
>>344619680
If everyone else would jump off a bridge would you do it too, because they're pros?
>valve is okay with people downloading cancerous and shady shit
This is actually a good thing. Maybe Valve will finally be inclined to clean up the cesspool that is Steam.
>>344620308
https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/proprietary.html
>>344620341
only 1000 years in GIMP
>>344617327
I wish I could say it's surprising, but the quality of software on Steam has been in a spin dive for at least a year now.
>>344617327
>Still using steam...
>>344618468
>employee admits to running bitcoin mining code
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/02/bitcoin_mining_game_client/
>they were actually sued and LOST IN COURT
http://www.mobilecommerceinsider.com/topics/mobilecommerceinsider/articles/361021-esea-takes-1-million-fine-bitco-mining-scandal.htm
>>344620308
This shit has to be fucking bait. No way some chinaman is here right now trying to damage control his awful, invasive, paid software.
>>344620427
you vastly underestimate how lazy valve is
at most maybe they'll remove just this, and thats a big maybe
they'll probably just ignore it and everyone will forget it in a week when its under another pile of garbage or other big scam
anyone whose played tf2, csgo, or dota2 knows that if it isn't getting a million views and upvotes on reddit, then valve gives 0 shits and will put in less than 0 effort
>>344620036
he's talking about the OPTIONAL skins
>>344620415
Steam is okay with you downloading unfinished, terrible software. They're okay with you downloading resold asset packs. They're okay with their own illegal gambling.
What made anyone think that this would be over the line?
>>344620308
The fact that the program itself is literally spyware hunting for all your information is by definition malware/spyware
>>344620934
no it isn't.
>>344622073
why not
is gathering otherwise useless data about the user NOT spying, somehow?
>>344622073
>gets BTFO with screenshots proving that this company is unapologetically crooked
>can only come up with "no it isn't." as a retort
Go ahead and reply. Go ahead and say "what screenshots?". Pretending your awful defense for a malicious product hasn't been completely destroyed with more than enough posted evidence isn't going to make people believe you.
>>344620826
What a shameful fucking display, desu. Gaben's an asshole.
>>344620116
>>344617327
you already could with punkbuster
>>344622184
>>344622641
guys it's not malware my computer works great!
Besides how can malware mess up my computer if I have Norton Anti-virus?
>>344624893
Damn, I forgot about that heap of shit.
>>344625070
Absolutely ruined that WWII game tripwire made, which sucks because it was pretty fun after the launch shit got ironed out.
>those death screams
>>344618013
>tfw Gates-senpai was the good guy all along
>>344625173
Red Orchestra II?
>>344625243
Yeah, that's the one. Aren't they making a vietnam game now? I thought they were still trying to salvage Killing Floor 2.
>anti cheat protection
>"OMFG ITS MALWRE GUYS"
>no proof of it being malware
lol ok
You know, today's world scares the fuck out of me.
We bitched about bonzi buddy many years back, but we give out our information willingly, and programs a lot worse are being sold with people defending them.
>>344625335
There have been several links reporting this company is known for using CPU cycles to mine for bitcoins. Just because you can't read or think that malware = virus doesn't make your post suddenly have any merit or weight to it.
Quit shilling
>>344625323
As of the previous month or so I've been hearing even more complaints about them fucking up KF2 with a resistance system on perks vs zeds and a versus mode.
>>344625335
since when did cheat protection collect my name, address, cell number, usernames +passwords, gender, billing information, browser, and email information
are they the fucking NSA?
>>344625335
>ignores every post in this thread proving it's malware that mines for bitcoins on your computer
>still insists it's legit software
lol ok
>demons
>>344625323
Yeah they are doing a Vietnam game next and then there are rumours that the fucker will have Shitbuster as well or fucking EAC that bricks your computer and is worse at finding cheaters than fucking VAC.
>>344625323
they still have the nerve to drag KF2 into public games conferences and announce new shit to jew us with
in reality its very little content, its so obvious there hasn't been any more than a skeleton team working on it while everyone else is working on the vietnam game
>>344620826
yea well they're jaded and hate everyone because they know the majority of humans are retards that literally want to be fed fucking stupid shit like CS:GO so they've decided they're just going to exploit that as much as possible.
>>344625804
If the Vietnam one has punkbuster, I'm not even going to bother. Why the fuck would they even use it when their servers are VAC secured anyways?
>>344625829
RS2 isn't even being made by Tripwire you dunce
>>344625950
Because people cry about getting sniped while they run in the open.
Fuck I remember when RO2 didn't have shitbuster and it was fucking tits.
Now no one plays it because of that malware shit that runs on your machine non stop and even uninstalling it doesn't remove it, you have to fucking download an uninstaller off their site then manually go fucking about with the registry.
Whats funny is that it doesn't stop any cheaters it just threatens to boot your ass because you dared to run and thing rubber bands your ass in place.
>>344617579
>Listed as free on Steam
In all fairness, that's probably just Valve not having a listing for just downloading the cilent. You can use the steam client while subscribing from their site.
>>344617665
For the anti-cheat to get as many people as possible. The people playing ESEA are mostly the top 5% of the playerbase and either don't care or are willing to let it do it's thing so they can play without hackers.
I don't understand why people on here are crying about ESEA when it makes no secret of what it does and the target playerbase is the biggest autists who play the game and want the most competitive environment.
>>344617327
>off of
Speak English.
>>344626335
Why don't you learn how to read first?
>>344626335
When off is a preposition, the phrase off of could almost always be shortened to just off. The unnecessary of is common in informal speech and writing, though, and using it is never a serious usage error. But writers who value concision can avoid it.
>>344626335
If he had had to had made any changes to his post, they'd be of little use since what the original meaning was was still correctly understood
>>344617368
How is this not against the law somewhere?
>>344628027
Well, you have to agree to it. This kind of shit is why you should actually look at privacy policies and terms of use.
>>344619680
just play faceit instead of paying for cancer that is ESEA
>>344628495
Agreeing to EULAs doesn't actually trump local law though. If it's against the law where you live, it doesn't matter what they say at all. Your being forced to agree to it is already a problem from a legal perspective.
valve has literally stopped giving a fuck. they dont make games, they make random shitty decisions for no reason like csgo revolver, no one is in charge, no one there gives a shit, they just stopped caring about steam machines and steamOS, csgo exists as an underage gambling den, hell on earth for 1000 years
>>344628882
You are legally agreeing to it. They are not forcing you to install their software. I'm no lawyer, but if what you say is true, how are they even still doing this?
>>344628959
because you'd have to actually file a lawsuit against them to fight them, i'm guessing
>>344628959
The US at least, as far as I'm aware, doesn't have very strict laws regarding data privacy and other related areas. Courts act very slow on this shit, and legislatures don't understand a damn thing about it so they don't pass laws unless something happens that gets people's panties in a huge twist.
The EU, on the other hand, it may very well be illegal, or parts of it are. I haven't seen the EU version of it, but I'd bet its wording is different at the least.
>>344629030
>>344629189
Thanks for the explanations
>>344617327
Steam is malware. You didn't realize yet?
>>344628947
i wonder if games on steamos still run worse than their windows/mac counterparts
>>344629189
EU here, exactly the same
>>344628947
my favorite "valve doesnt give a fuck" thing is the rampant cheating in the csgo pro community. its so bad but most companies trying to have an esport dont have the luxuries valve does
>>344628027
>How is this not against the law somewhere?
Because:
"ESEA collects information you provide to us."
"You provide" being the key phrase there.
>>344629492
But I don't provide it. their software on my PC does
>>344629553
the kind of thing you could argue in the court of law, perhaps
>>344629492
Uh-huh, and they claim full lack of responsibility from the use of their services, even if they've been informed that it's harmful.
>/v/ doesn't care and will proceed to continue eating Gaben's shit
>>344630483
>104 angry posts means nobody cares
off yourself
>>344630610
If it doesn't get to 500, it isn't enough.
the sort of person that uses ESEA doesn't need valve to access the service
I've got friends with 1000+ hours in CSGO that use it
>>344631606
Why do they install malware on their PCs?
>>344632196
Cheating in GO is an overwhelming problem, so many just bite the authoritarian bullet and install a client with a brutally invasive anti-cheat.
CS:GO outside of ESEA is pretty much who pays for the hacks wins. The phone-prime thing's a fucking turnoff to new players, they have to grind to level 21 against the shitshow, most won't bother. Many who've played the shit since before the skin update have stopped, the goalposts getting moved all the time just make it not worth the time. Considering the worst of all previous FPS fanbases now play GO, the game's just arse cancer now. Giant malformed shit scented polyps.
>>344632196
CSGO players that want an edge.
>>344617327
Seriously, how does this shit get on Steam? It's not greenlight. Someone at Valve must have had to approve it.
Between this and CrateGate I'm thinking some offshore Chinese company secretly took over and is squeezing it for all it's worth.
>>344633278
There was some exploit before where you could get just about anything on Steam because it's an automated process, one guy put a fake game with CIA emoticons and badges up before ValvE pulled it and some others down and claimed to start manually reviewing them. I imagine this just slipped through the wide-ass cracks ValvE has in game approval.
>>344628495
>you have to agree to it
Is there a single case of EULAs holding up in court?
I mean yeah, yeah, don't like it don't install it, but even then, I don't recall a single case of a user agreement ever holding up. Or terms and conditions for that matter.
Like companies have gone to such lengths to cover their asses that their massive disclaimers are no longer court-admissable. It's fantastic, when you think about it.
>>344617327
>People get all riled up about this but not Denuvo, which is literally malware.
>>344619583
>>344618826
They also got fined a fuck-ton for it and had to replace every computer part that got damaged as a result of it. It only generated $3700 worth of bitcoins while they got fined almost a hundred times that upfront and will have to pay more if they don't keep a clean record. It's also worth noting that they got bought by an entirely different company afterwards and it's under new management.
>>344624580
I wish I had never discovered those videos.
>>344619627
How does someone this retarded even live?
>>344617665
their anticheat scans physical memory, as well as a bunch of other shit
>>344636501
Is this bait? It looks and smells like bait. Unless you don't go here often enough
>>344636501
With all the shit going on in modern gaming, I looked to a savior, a company I could trust. I knew I couldn't trust Nintendo with their censorship, amiibo scams and region locking shit, or MS who tried to destroy physical games and make everything cloud based, and now I know I can't trust Sony due to them scamming people with the PS4 when they have an upgrade waiting 3 years after launch. And of course Steam has always been a scam since it's all DRM protected because they own the rights to "your" games.
But in the wake of this I know who to trust, who actually has my best interests at heart. But you'll have to let me explain because it sounds deranged. Denuvo. Because they don't want me to buy a new console a year or two after I buy a PS4 and "keep gaming" or to buy cloud connected game to "keep gaming" or to buy amiibos so I can unlock on disc DLC and "keep gaming" with compromised, censored games.
No, Denuvo just doesn't want me to play games at all. Because when Denuvo is on a game--I can't play it, full stop. Since Steam is not an option, a game using Denuvo merely means I won't be able to play that game. They don't ask anything more. There's no lower quality compromise like an old PS4 or a 360 arcade. There's no scam they're running. They want me to go outside, to be free, to frolic in the hinterlands. They whisper in my ear "go read a book," or "go watch anime," they whisper to me of the joy that can be had outside the gaming madhouse. And when all PC games use Denuvo, that will be the day I am truly free. I'm not kidding. This is how bad it has gotten. The only salvation is an end to video games.
>>344618387
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(computing)
>>344637442
fuck anon, are you alright?
>>344637528
esea is a driver, not daemon i think. and windows doesn't have daemons, it has services
>>344629553
No you dumb fuck the person in the picture is creating an account which is going to ask him for those kind of details.
>>344617435
>demons
>>344637586
I think the PS4neo scam was the tipping point for me. Sony basically stole 350 dollars from me since I bought a PS4 a few months before the rumors started. I can't continue gaming knowing this.
>>344637769
>>344617435
Do valve employees even look at the front page of the store anymore? This shit is fucking embarrassing.
>>344637442
>>344637864
They're the ones who okayed it. It's embarassing you think Steam has any kind of quality control in its curation process. Basically the only criteria is "Will this make Jew Golds for Master Gaben?"
>>344637858
>weeaboo
Has this word lost its meaning?
>>344638689
It's shorthand. Only weeaboos tend to like the new FEs so they are "weeaboo" despite being made by Japanese
>>344628959
Scare tactics. It also makes the entire process a huge pain in the ass since the company being sued has the money to drag court cases out, which may not be the case for the person suing.
>>344638819
What? No, weeaboos don't like them. Or I guess they also do, but not solely them. It's more of general otaku appeal.
...Again, what does weeaboo even mean anymore? Anybody who likes something from Japan? Games that are Japanese?
>>344637442
The only way to kill pong is to beat the shit to death and kill Atari - Love the 1970s
History repeating itself but in a more beautiful cascade of rage melding hate fuel that will be burned for the next few eons until gaming restarts with another great mmo.
And the whole process begins anew.
Rules of Nature.
>>344639037
I tend to use it to mean something of low quality, that has a highly generic feel to it and is typically unpolished that people tend to buy just because they want Japanese games and can't discern better ones or have shit taste. So Neptunia is weeaboo, Dragon's Crown is not weeaboo. Dungeon Travelers 2 is weeaboo, Radiant Historia is not weeaboo.
>>344637669
A daemon is a service and vice versa. Daemon is just the term used for Linux while Service is for Windows.
>>344639871
You might say Linux is daemonic.
>>344617368
>gender
as if they understand what my gender is.
>>344640284
Bitchboi?
>>344619016
that's a big worker
>>344617327
>claims to be free
>you need a subscription anyway to even use it
>this turd was already a literal bitcoin miner before
>it now asks kernel access to the PC
>>344625173
What is wrong with punkbuster? Never had any issues in my 100+ hours of playing Red Orchestra 2
>>344628495
I recall that a lawyer/judge successfully defended/acquitted a person by saying it was unreasonable to assume a person would read through the dense terms and conditions.
>>344641039
Seems like not much changed due to that
>>344641039
The average terms and conditions ARE actually incomprehensible to the average person, they're purposely vague and/or have the bare minimum of information. Though you'd need a pretty good layer to spin that into being plausible for court
>>344640747
For you
>>344617435
>Demons
oh shit we SMT now
>>344617327
>What the fuck is valve doing?
Going full Jew, goy. This isn't even Gaben's final form.
>>344641264
Well it wasn't the Supreme Court lad.
>>344617435
>it was like that all weekend
>there was only one game on the weekend deal
>>344641434
>Bitcoin miner in a COMP
That would probably kill your demons.
>>344625598
>collect my name, address, cell number, usernames +passwords, gender, billing information, browser, and email information
>are they the fucking NSA?
Shit, I thought you were talking about Steam
>>344626129
>I don't understand why people on here are crying about ESEA when it makes no secret of what it does
Weren't they caught in a bitcoin mining scandal just 2 years ago?
>>344617368
>you may also send similar information about other people
>>344641939
For profit, anon-kun
>>344641939
Profit?
>>344626129
>ESEA when it makes no secret of what it does
Doesn't suddenly make it a-okay to install spyware, mine buttcoins and steal password (according to their ToS)
>>344641820
They state that they "may" get access to your "user IDs and passwords". Does Steam ever say it "may" get access to all your user IDs and passwords ?
>>344642381
No but Microsoft does.
>>344642069
>>344642096
>please tell us your friends' information
>they don't have to know
>i-i-i-it's for profits..... MUAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH
>>344642381
>Does Steam ever say it "may" get access to all your user IDs and passwords ?
They already have them.......?
>>344642510
Well, yeah, it is. Highly illegal profit, but profit regardless
>>344617435
4 of anything on the front page usually signifies some shadiness
>>344617368
>>344617435
Steam has really gone to shit.
>>344640742
no senpai, It'sattack helicopter
>>344643384
Sugoi, anon-san
>matchmaking is the only advantage csgo has over the other three games which are otherwise far better in every aspect
>half the fucking players don't use it anyway
If you're using private matchmaking anyway why play Casual-Strike instead of 1.6?
>>344643384
That's cool! I identify as a military fighter jet.
>>344643924
because i am casual and need RNG equalizer
>>344617327
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>>344639818
>Dungeon Travelers 2
Fite me.
>>344637442
The only way to save the organics from being killed by synthetics is to create synthetics that'll kill the organics!
>mfw all these shills explaining the bitminer was fired as if it changes the datamining and scanning of your entire PC
>>344640894
Version client mismatches. Thinking you're cheating when you aren't due to .dll injects from Steam and/or other services.
The only publisher still using it is about EA. Everyone else dumped it.
>>344643289
yeah, a steaming pile of shit
>>344617327
>4 listings of the same software on the front page
>from a company known to install bitcoin miners
>labeled as free when you have to pay for it
>EULA pretty much tells you they're selling your information
God damn. This isn't even poor quality control, just an indicator they don't care what goes on their store as long as they get paid.
Valve only manages to get away with this shit since they're virtually unchallenged as far as PC games go.
>>344617435
How the fuck is that possible? Steam store glitching out?
>>344645028
If it were a glitch they probably would have fixed it by now. Either that or they don't care to fix it.
>>344645313
So, what, they pushed like 4 different versions of the sub to Steam to get it to most popular with a 80-90% use rate or something?
if you think this is bitcoining software you're wrong. if this is bitcoining software then even video games are bitcoining mine software because bitcoining software runs on your gpu and so does video games!
>>344645446
All the links take you to the same store page, they're all the same thing just flooding the main store page. I'd imagine that would boost users/sales quite a bit.
The 4 tabs have been at the top of "popular new releases" since this weekend. They probably paid Valve for the spot and worst case Valve could argue it was just a glitch.
>>344646059
>a glitch
Yeah thats why they fixed all the Anime, Meme, Horror, Illuminati tags on it but didnt bother to fix the 4 instances on new releases tab
>>344645707
Already posted in this thread, have a (you) anyway
Lol @ all the people in here who have no idea what ESEA
>MUH BITCOINS
>IPKANE DID NOTHING WRONG
The new management is under ESL and people are bringing up the past as if it is relevant. They have a new team working on the client and operating the entire business.
In the Steam forums it says that this was done several years ago and the guy who did it was fired and this client no longer mines bitcoins
>>344646935
Now it just steals your info, what a relief :^)
>>344650531
I still think Doge is pretty funny though lul
>>344650531
loved cancerman before it became a meme
