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It's my brother's birthday and the couple of ideas I had for presents for him didn't work out. So my third idea is to buy him an RTS to play with him.
He's always been turned off from the genre because he's bad at blizzard RTS, but he's never played any other.
Looking for something we can play together because that way he'll be more likely to play it and not just let it sit in the backlog. Thinking maybe Company of Heroes or Men of War because he likes tanks. But it doesn't have to have tanks.
I just started getting into AI War but it looks like there's a LOT to learn so it might be a little too hardcore for him. But the fact that the games take so long and you can play them co-op looks good so if this first one goes well then maybe we can play that one together down the line.
>tfw no more atmospheric rts like tiberium sun
Red Alert or Red Alert 2.
If he doesn't like old stuff, get him Supreme Commander: FA or Tiberium of Wars. Company of Heroes gets too hectic and Men of War is too niche with it's realism and may get slightly confusing for your brother.
>>344569649
He plays Civ 3 and 4 so he isn't against older stuff but something more current might be easier to get him excited about
>>344569649
>Supreme Commander: FA
you gotta be a bit invested and have patience in this game tho
>>344568659
>selfishly gift your brother a game he probably wont like because YOU want to play it
From my experience people who simply dislike RTS or fighting games wont ever get into them.You cant get buddies into these games, you have to make friends with people who are into them.
>>344569925
Get him Deserts of Kharak maybe then? It's fairly easy, and it's a great RTS from the top to the bottom. Slightly short though.
yes
leave men of war to the men
and not the casual babies
>real time ''strategy'' games
>all around memorizing the build orders and hotkeys then spamming the only 3 viable units
>once RTSbaby encounters something that can't be overcome with mindless spam he throws a tantrum
this genre didn't die because it's too hardcore it died because it's too casual
started playing galactic battlegrounds today
first time ive played an age of empires without cheats
its great
>>344570430
He likes 4X, and has shown interest in grand strategy and Total War games. He's never played an RTS besides Starcraft, which he felt hopeless in because of the matchmaking but didn't really hate it either. But he assumes other RTS are the same crazy clickfest type of deal. I want to show him how fun it is to just make economic and tactical decisions in real-time without getting hung up on the tryhard stuff like this pleb did >>344571195
We're close and he'd definitely be happy to play something co-op with me. So yes I'm buying RTS because I like it, but I don't think it's awfully selfish.
>>344571502
try galactic civilizations
>>344571502
>but he assumes other RTS are the same crazy clickfest type of deal. I want to show him how fun it is to just make economic and tactical decisions in real-time without getting hung up on the tryhard stuff like this pleb did
but that is what they are at high levels
>>344571502
Sins of a Solar Empire then?
13 posts and we already have a troll shitting up the thread
what is it about rts games that triggers people so hard?
>>344568659
RA3 has a co-op campaign.
>>344571502
>I want to show him how fun it is to just make economic and tactical decisions in real-time without getting hung up on the tryhard stuff
Then Rise of nations is what you need.
>>344571926
All of these aged like milk.
Base building died years ago cuck
>>344572353
The words of the ASSFAGGOTS are dust in the wind.
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>>344572353
I just started playing TA and it's fun. Not all of us need new and flashy. I can appreciate a quality game.
>>344572487
>enemy units show up
>All your units break formation to attack them
>reeeeee
>>344571502
Are you sure that's a good idea? If he wants slower games then buy him Battle Academy 2 or Unity of Command maybe even Hearts of Iron IV or Battle of the Bulge.
If you insist on an rts and he likes tanks then Men of War and all its mods have that in spades. The default settings for multiplayer games have you control just a handful of squads and maybe a tank too so it's not overwhelming (get assault squad 2, newest MoW game).
COH or COH 2 are also a decent choice but the latter has tooooon of DLC so be aware of that. Also has some pretty good mods though, including one that lets you play with all the DLC stuff fo free.
You make him sound quite young so I'm not sure but if he is the kind that likes to get into really complicated games you could also get into something like Operation Star or if we are talking about 4x then maybe something like Dominions 4.
>>344572487
Looks like an ad for some shitty clash of clans knockoff
>>344573009
>breaking formation
Shamefur dispray
What games let me both manage my army and build cities for regular people?
>>344573541
Patrician III, Anno 1404/2070, the Stronghold games. Endless Legend and Civ could qualify too, EL more than civ.
>>344573864
Patrician and Anno are jew simulators.
>>344570064
How? It's just learning what can be min maxed per map resources.
>>344571502
Stellaris is the obvious answer then.
>>344573864
none of those are rts
>>344573981
>>344574263
It's almost as if someone asked about city building.
>>344574263
>>344574000
Maybe the anon thought you were going to have your brother play the campaign, which is complete, tedious ass with horrible acting, but it shouldn't be an issue if you're playing together obviously
>>344572789
Is TA a perfect game? No, but no RTS has come close to it.
>>344574263
>not rts
anon are you retarded
>>344574971
I've just been playing a mission or 2 here and there on hard. Should I install any of the patches or mods yet or just keep going with what I'm doing?
>>344569553
Damn right
>>344571926
What's wrong with Red Alert 3? I picked it up durring steam sales and It's pretty fun.
>>344577068
I think just fans of RA and RA2 hate it
it was my first C&C besides playing the original as a 10-year-old and I thought it was fine
>>344577425
It's an alright game, in any case it doesn't deserve to be lumped in with SupCom 2, Grey Goo, CoH, or Planetary Anihillation, who all sucked or disappointed for different reasons, like PA releasing a full-priced expansion which only brought it up to the level at which it should've been at release.
>>344578268
Although people who purchased PA at the start do get a discount on steam*
I WANT TO PLAY C&C GAMES WITH /v/
fact
>>344568659
play Total Annihilation, that game is sick as fuck.
>>344578867
I got it during the steam sale and I love it but there's no way I'm going to get my brother to play it.
I'm just 7 missions into the Arm campaign. Do you recommend I install a patch/mod or just continue playing vanilla?
Anyways I have Men of War Assault Squad 2 on my backlog and I'm going to fire it up later to see if it's accessible enough for him. He's older than me, he's not a dumbfuck, but I am trying to avoid anything that needs major time invested like grand strategy.
I know RA3 is a pretty easy game so that could be good for something to just jump into. But it doesn't have to be super easy. Just not crazy.
And I'll check out the other suggestions. I wish I had a steam group for RTS.
>>344579515
But why not RA2? It's the far superior game and the units don't have stances other than a few units like the GI or Desolator being able to deploy
>playing Men of War: Assault Squad skirmish
>map has three lanes and continuous waves of enemies coming from each
>constantly have to micromanage units because the unit AI is braindead and obviously gimped to force the player to do so
>AT howitzers and heavy MGs constantly getting outranged by tanks and infantry unless I specifically click at targets for the AI to shoot
>spend a couple minutes too many on babysitting one lane then find out that another has been lost to the enemy
This shit is unplayable solo. The ineptness of the player unit AI is artificial difficulty.
>>344578685
And that's considering Nod came out of Africa.
>>344571195
>citing arguments that have been laid to rest ages ago
We won´t ignore you because we don´t want you to be part of the discussion, we will ignore you because you are too dumb to participate.
>>344572353
No one agrees with you.
>>344569553
m-maybe one day
we can still have hope right anon?
>>344582216
EA should reboot CNC 1, and maybe add a third factions like the UN.
>>344582427
EA shouldn't touch CNC ever again. They already did enough damage
Who /COH/ here?
>>344583459
I feel like penals are a meme to try to get me to not build T2 so I lose
>>344582668
That is true I agree with you 100%, but they have the rights to it. So what can we do?
BFME2, AoM or AoE II? Is the latter as horribly dated as it looks?
>>344583459
USF player love using Airborn commander.
>>344583883
>You need a suicide squad
>They drop like flies but always manage to deliver more damage.
>Their DPS actually increases as they lost units.
>Better die to enemy fire than to be executed ;..;
>>344584510
>not based ppsh cons with rapid conscription
>mfw the red army is filled with heroes
>>344583459
ALL HAIL BRITANNIA
>>344584110
It looks amazing for a 14 year old game. Get the HD edition on Steam. There are a few graphics mods in the workshop. Still plays amazing and is one of the best RTS around.
Rise of Nations is RTS perfection tho.
okw = fags
>>344568659
HaaH WaaW 2
>>344584701
Conspamming is so fucking retarded its literally just zerging hard until you get an IS2, no matter where you go cons are waiting.
How hard it is to click one button the whole game?
And fuck they gay shock commander btw.
>>344586206
>ppsh cons
>is-2
wat
and yeah I'm sure managing your 2 squads of vet 10 oberhitlerjagers is a lot more demanding
>>344586493
I wasn't talking about this specifically.
But who cares? iS2 or T34/85.
Same gay shit
>>344585059
Fags for playing the weakest faction in the games? How about spamming that usf mortar? Not fag enough to not do it?
>>344578448
did get a discount on steam*
>>344583459
>the British Army was far and away my favourite faction in CoH 1
>the voice acting was 100% spot on for every single unit
>British Army is announced for CoH 2, hype goes through the roof
>turns out their voice acting is one giant parody complete with the over-the-top 'jolly good old chap, let's give them the business wot wot?' officer and the working class private soldier who literally cannot stop talking about wanking
Why did it have to be this way?
>>344586802
is-2 isn't even good
>weakest faction
lol
>usf mortar
I only play soviets and wehr because I'm not gay
>>344586925
All the voicing in this game is rather bad except USF
This is why I play with russian audio and mostly soviets.
>>344582427look up Twisted Insurrection anon
>>344583459
You can count on Ostruppen.
No, really, you can!
mfw soviet t4 buffs
>>344587610
Bosstruppen for the win
Only the true knows.
>>344587678
Soviet waifu tactics is a qt.
>>344584901
>Rise of Nations
>better than AoE2
what the fuck
>>344578685
The hell's a "forgotten"? Something from the new "C&C" games?
>>344587552
I know I played the shit out of that mod. lol
>>344582427
But Anon, the GDI is already the UN army.
>>344588137they recently added a 3rd faction tho
GloboTech
>>344587882
It's a catch-all term for Tiberium muties who have banded together for survival, but in C&C4 they were made a fully-fledged faction who could apparently compete with the cutting-edge militaries of the GDI and the Brotherhood.
It was pretty dumb.
What are your predictions?
>>344588202
Not really they were just funded by the UN, which they cut the funds on them. But that was just to lure kane out I think.
>>344568659
>He's always been turned off from the genre because he's bad at blizzard RTS, but he's never played any other.
>Thinking maybe Company of Heroes or Men of War because he likes tanks.
if he's bad at blizzard rts games, then he'll be terrible at coh or mow. those games can get pretty overwhelming, and some players cant even beat easy comps.
just get him some generic AAA game trash he's guaranteed to like and save both you and your brother the headache.
>>344588297
You they did? when did the updated come out?
>>344579515
RA3 is pretty easy, but I did enjoy playing through the co-op campaign
>>344588683>dat grammar
they've only added the first mission or two for them, but it's a start. hasn't been more than a month or two ago i would say.
>>344588532
is BW still a thing or is this some sc2 fuckery
>>344588810
Sorry about that using my shitty phone. Nice redownloading right now.
>>344571926
this chart is awful and I wish people would stop posting it
>>344572353
Company of Heroes is still
1) a great game
2) looks great
Granted the final balance patch they did with the Steam conversion sucks for a few reasons, but the game's still great if you only play 1vs1.
How are the stronghold games multiplayer? Single player sounds like what you're looking for but i haven't played online.
>>344588649
That really isn't true at all. Company of Heroes is a lot different from both Starcraft/2 and Warcraft 3
The biggest skill barrier for most people in Starcraft is simply how quickly they can click and multitask. I like Starcraft a lot, but I straight up stopped playing it because I'm at risk of developing early onset arthritis in my fingers.
Warcraft 3 is pretty easy to pick up and play even if you're terrible at Starcraft, because the sheer amount of clicking and multitasking is a lot less. The problem with Warcraft 3 is that it simply isn't a very good multiplayer game due to the creeping aspect of it (you spend more time fighting neutrals than you do fighting the other player).
The Relic RTS games require fewer clicking actions and are less frantic. CoH really hits the sweet spot between unit micromanagement and macro strategy (map control) whereas DoW2 is still pretty cool because it's just very casual and you can dunk on people and laugh about it.
Men of War is really cool, but I can't fathom anyone who plays that seriously in multiplayer. It's a broken piece of shit in which units tend to instantly die out of the blue, and unless you've put a lot of time and effort into learning the game, you probably won't even know what the fuck happened. MoW is mostly just for fucking around, IMO.
So how do I get into Supreme Commander?
I have FAF, but I don't know if I should do 1 vs 1 ladder and get rush killed in a minute over and over until I get the hang of 1 vs 1, or if I should try and play the team matches in the custom game menu.
>>344588339
That's... odd? Did Nod stop having third world regions as its main powerbase? Did they stop intensely studying the effects of tiberium on humans? Did they stop being an anti-imperialist cult mass-recruiting from poor populations with a grudge against the west? Did they completely stop being the freaking Brotherhood of Nod?
Because I don't see how such a faction as you describe could possibly exist otherwise.
>>344589568
I disagree for MOW.
The game is simply not RTS.
You know perfectly why your units died out and there is always a way to comeback.
In CoH you can lose the whole game because you chose the wrong tech or commander.
>>344589693
Think he is talking about the forgotten.
>>344571502
How about Age of Empires? Get the AoE II HD edition.
>>344589568
>That really isn't true at all. Company of Heroes is a lot different from both Starcraft/2 and Warcraft 3
i'm not saying they're the same at all, i'm saying it's CoH and MoW are harder than blizzard games, since they require more attention to micro due to the environmental buffs/debuffs.
>>344572789
On a side note, I'm impressed to see that upper widescreen resolutions are perfectly supported, with correct interface scaling and no stretching. Unexpected from a 1997 game.
>>344589838
MoW's spotting system and the power of many of the weapons means that you can absolutely lose units and not know what happened if you are still new and learning the game.
Obviously, if you play the shit out of Men of War and your tank gets one shot, you'll be like "Ohhh, there's an AT gun in the bush allllll the way over there." Somebody just starting out with MoW will be like "WHAT THE FUCK"
As for CoH, you can make 'mistakes' and still win the game. CoH is mostly about soft counters. Positioning, sector control, and unit micro make all the difference. You can take out an MG42 with nothing but rifle squads if you take advantage of the game mechanics.
In both cases, it's a question of experience with the game. As an experienced MoW player, I understand what's going on a lot better than I did when i was just learning the game. As an experienced CoH player, I can make a couple of suboptimal macro decisions and still beat a relatively evenly matched player if I outplay him in the field.
>>344590372
No fucking way, dude. Harder than Warcraft 3, absolutely. Warcraft 3 is baby's first game for retards.
But Starcraft is definitely harder game than Company of Heroes. There are more game mechanics to understand in Company of Heroes (and a good player can learn lots of obscure tricks to get a slight edge), but the fact remains that APM essentially does not matter in CoH and it matters bigtime in Starcraft. I was a top Panzer Elite player in the 2v2 ladder for a long time during OF and I average around 30 actions per minute. I could not be competitive in Starcraft with that APM.
I flat out could not be good at Starcraft, because of the cartilage in my fingers.
>>344589625
use a guide
practice putting the guide into action against sorian AI
when you thing you have playing down play Open Palms 1v1 and 1v1 ladder
>>344590894
There is no rts more complex than CoH man.
Thinking starcraft is harder, this is dumb.
Starcraft has a hard execution ceiling an you say it yourself.
It all goes to how fast you click and how many thing you manage at once.
Unit placing, cover advantage, baiting, setting traps, unit preservation, managing your very limited resources (farming doesn't exist in coh) , countering blobs or flanking.
All this doesn't exist in SC, its all about teching as fast as you can and an exchange of units power and what beats what.
>>344574263
stronghold totally is
>>344577425
even that's not true. I was a fan of the original RA and after RA2 started getting so ridiculous 3 seemed natural to me. It's not too well balanced, and they were trying to be a "Starcraft killer" was the only real issue, but they didn't bother actually supporting it as much as blizzard does with their rts games. But honestly it's a fun game.
>>344591484
Supcom FA is more complex than CoH
>>344591071
Thanks. Do you have any guides that you would recommend? I used the economy guide that focused on math when I last tried this a few years ago, is that still relevant?
>>344591484
AI War is more complex than CoH.
>>344591974
look through here http://wiki.faforever.com/mediawiki/
I dont remember what I read exactly just that I found the link on there and it moved me from being 3rd best among my friends to best
>>344591974
Watch replays of other players. When you do play against someone, watch from their side and see what they did that put them in a winning position and how you can identify it next game and counter it.
Gyle's a caster with a casual, relaxed focus if you want to sit back and watch a game for fun and if you want to look at details and strategy, I recommend praisegugleourmaster.
There are a few more casters than these two if you don't like them.
>>344591974
FA Forever's balance has different numbers but general principles should be the same except for factories (HQ and support). Then you need only know T1 mex -> T2 mex -> surround with storages THEN T3 mex.
>>344587882
They're the mutants mutated from tiberium have you even played tibsun?
Any RTS with proper naval combat without shit ass scaling?
>>344589568
>The problem with Warcraft 3 is that it simply isn't a very good multiplayer game due to the creeping aspect of it (you spend more time fighting neutrals than you do fighting the other player).
That's not true at all unless it's a match between low level players who never dare harrass each other or punish greedy plays.
>>344593687
Wargame: Red Dragon.
Its combat might be a hit or miss depending on preferences.
>>344568659
AI War is more of a really slow-paced problem solving game in strategy setting rather than a real-time strategy game in the normal sense of the word. Lots of it relies on taking and destroying only specific AI structures (and there are shitton of different kinds which provide huge boons or cons) and sectors, meaning *constant* player co-ordination about which targets to aim for / leave alone with absolutely zero leeway for independent choices, which might get boring for your bro since you constantly have to advice him on what to do. I was actually in the same exact situation with my bro who coerced me to get AI War (without ever been into strategy games himself), but in the end he didn't have enough patience to learn to ropes.
Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion might be fun in compstomp and is relatively easy to pick up. The game is slow-paced enough for beginners (no APM shit like Starcraft or AoE2, plus you can change the game speed in starting options). There's no campaign at all and the game is completely built around team or FFA skirmish matches (which vary from very quick to hours long depending on game speed, number of players and map size). I've never tried playing it against other people though and don't know how active the community is. The AI isn't very stellar, though the cheating higher difficulties provide some better if statistically unfair challenge.
If I could I'd recommend RUSE for team PvP action since it was also slow-paced, relatively simple game with practically no APM shit whatsover, but the publisher had to pull the game from all stores due to licensing issues and it's dead now. Wargame is a relatively slow-paced game from the same devs, but the learning curve and number of different units is fuckhuge with lots of positioning relating mechanics and THICK manual. It's also much more micro-heavy than RUSE.
AoE2 is a classic but very heavily reliant on micro-management and APM.
>>344568659
Try world in conflict with him. No base building, just units, and the explosions still looks amazing to this game.
Homeworld is also good.
>>344593826
I'm one of the bigger RD apologists out there and would never, ever, ever suggest it to anyone looking for "proper naval combat." That's just cruel.
>>344583459
Don't mind me, just postain best general
>>344591484
almost all of the stuff you listed exists in starcraft. thinking it doesn't is why you're bad, not because you aren't clicking fast enough.
>>344587842
As someone who only played them in the past ~5 years and not as a kid, I can get on board with that. I have no problem with AoE2 but without nostalgia it's pretty basic don't ya think?
I grew up playing Starcraft and to me it's fucking amazing but I can see how an RTS fan who didn't grow up with that game wouldn't see what I see in it. I was there when the strategies were developing into what they are today.
>that feel when I enjoy RTS games but I am god awful at them
Anyone else?
>>344594723
He asked for scale and it was the first thing that popped into mind. Supreme Commander's already been mentioned in this thread and I assume he wants land units to go alongside the ships.
>>344588532
how is flash doing now?
>>344588835
it's not sc2
>>344594321
Dead fucking game.
>>344595186
It doesn't do that right, either. A Harpoon's range is over 100km in reality but isn't even 10km in-game, along with hundreds of other examples.
>>344594947
>implying based guards commanders aren't best commanders.
Honestly PA is probably one of the best RTS games I've played and blows all other RTS out of the water. I feel like it gets way to much unjust hate.
Everyone always wanks off Supcom but I find everything just so boring. Plus Supcom fans always like to boat about how the game is all about large scale battles of numbers but ever the game never gets to that point unless everyone agrees to turtle for 20 minutes. Pa really encourages and promotes trying to out mass the enemy but better than Supcom.
I also feel like PA handled tiers much better. Instead of just giving you straight upgrades to everything each tier ends up giving you more specialized units instead and few direct upgrades to units, making it so that tiers aren't completely useless after you upgrade.
>>344595145
Out of curiosity last time I watched the leaderboard and see who could be the people who are last in 1v1 mode.
People who have played like 1300games aren't able to get past this place.
How is it possible to play so much time and not make an ounce of progress.
>>344587882
the forgotten have been around since tiberian sun dude. Westwood wanted them to be a faction in cnc 3 and the ones to save the world from the aliums
>>344568659
maybe the reason your first two gifts fell flat is because youre trying to get him a gift that you want. just give him something he actually likes and be done with it.
>>344596059
>westwood wanting aliens
When will this meme die? EA came up with the shitty alien plot cuz they're hacks.
>>344594246
Thanks. I'm either looking for something with some fun compstomping potential or a co-op campaign. Leaning more towards compstomping.
Thoughts on Homeworld Remastered anyone?
I really liked this game but the Russians are the reason I just play with the AI
>>344587023
>I only play soviets and wehr because I'm poor
fixed
>>344588532
Where can you still watch sc1 matches even? I've been using twitch too much and now I'm too retarded to find these things
>>344595928
If you have been playing casually since the game was released every now and then.
Every fucking time some big update comes along I have to relearn a lot of the nuances of the game. A lot of people like me just play for fun and don't read up on guides or min max.
If you play team games a lot instead of 1v1 without a dedicated team you are bound to loose a lot.
>>344596429
>Thoughts on Homeworld Remastered anyone?
boring as fuck, Sots 1 is more entertaining but that is 4x with RTS combat
>>344596254
No, the other gifts fell flat because they weren't meant to be. So I got him a good craft beer, a pair of shoes he was going to buy soon, and I'm getting him a game to play with me. We are close, we like to do things together. I've deemed the RTS genre appropriate for this birthday, it's not a big deal. If I gifted him AoM right now he would probably at least play through the campaign just because in our family we love the gifts we get from eachother. Playing something co-op will be even better.
>>344596946
afreeca I think
>>344596429
Red alert 3 has singleplayer coop if i remember correctly.
Homeworld is all about the units. You might enjoy it, it is pretty simple once you learn what unit counters what and so on. Great eye candy when all ships opens fire and flies around.
>>344595718
Do meteors still delete planets or did they change them back to being balanced again? Did the devs ever stop the godawful design philosophy of "epic" game enders? Is orbital still a boring 1 unit unbreakable swarm? Is naval still useless because the planets can't host any sizable body of water? Did they ever re-implement unit wreckage?
I haven't played in about a year and a half, these things made me leave.
>>344596274
I guess thats why c&c had a crashed ufo and tibsun had a whole mission about defending one
>played thousands of hours of dow 1
>really excited for dow 3, even after the mediocre footage shown
>all my dow 1 friends are as well
>goes on the internet and everyone is bitching about everything
I guess after all this time of gw and the games industry fucking everything up, 40k fans have become cynical as hell over everything. cant say I blame them, but im not one of them. im kinda excited to see more of dow 3, at least.
>>344596429
>>Thoughts on Homeworld Remastered?
It's ok. You might appreciate it more if you were a longtime Homeworld player. A recent patch turned the game into its own kind of animal.
It has a lot of mods, too.
>>344595235
He's playing really well vs zerg and terran from what I've seen on his stream.
>>344597826
>Do meteors still delete planets or did they change them back to being balanced again?
back to balance
>Did the devs ever stop the godawful design philosophy of "epic" game enders?
They added titans to the game so not really I guess.
>Is orbital still a boring 1 unit unbreakable swarm?
added 4 new orbital units plus one of the titans is orbital.
>Is naval still useless because the planets can't host any sizable body of water?
Fixed, also added new navel units, one is even amphibious
Did they ever re-implement unit wreckage?
No.
Also there is a community mod that adds an entire faction to the game you might want to check out.
>>344598279
Us 40kids have Battlefleet Gothic Armada while we wait for DoW3. You can play that. It's fucking great.
>>344598961
ive been doing that on and off, but I like coop in games more than straight pvp and theres no coop matchmaking and none of my friends have it. its pretty damn good, though.
I miss Earth 2150 multiplayer. I feel like i'll never experience it again.
I don't enjoy competitive multiplayer.
Whats good for singleplayer campaigns/skirmishes outside of C&C, AoE and BlizzCraft?
>>344600242
Rise of Nations
>>344568659
get him halo wars
nice and casual
>>344600530
>getting someone a post-AoE 3 Ensemble game
Don't do that, that's just being mean.
Where does Battle Realms fall into?
>>344574726
Why'd they stop making these kinds of games?
>>344570513
Fucking this.
I picked up DoK in the steam sale and love it, my only complaint is that it is a bit to short, and there isn't any more of it.
And the fucking developer looks like they've dropped it totally now. Bastards.
>>344579941
How does it make it superior?
Especially when UI in 3 is so much in modern standards.
Not dissing 2 but all of you fags have nostalgia goggles.
