How come no Star Wars game after the Jedi Knight series has taken and improved (if that's possible) its lightsaber combat?
>>344560429
cuz disney u goof
my fav game of all times
>>344560429
Because it took skill?
not canon anymore!!!
Because the only hack'n'slash game after it was Force Unleashed, and it was made for consoles. Therefore, lightsabers were replaced with glowbatons.
>>344560687
That cracked me up good.
>>344560687
>>344560687
>and that is how Darth Maul saved the galaxy. The end.
>>344560687
Masketta Man?
>>344560429
I've never played a Jedi Knight game, but that combat honestly looks like garbage.
Lightsabers are actually supposed to be very light, considering the only solid part of them is the handle.
There's no reason for them to be swinging the lightsabers around like steel greatswords. It looks slow and incredibly clunky.
This is coming from a huge mount and blade fan
>>344562123
Well if you didn't play it you shouldn't say shit like that anon, even in star wars theres heavy light saber styles like that dumb shit savage did and then theres fast styles like good ol palp and windu
>>344562123
It's a fucking stance you fucking moron, you've got 3.
Fast, Medium and Heavy.
>>344561338
What does Moya have to do with Star Wars lightsaber combat?
>>344562123
Jedi Knight games combat is the closest we ever got the OT, but I understand a prequel baby like you would be triggered. Also what >>344562358 said.
Fast stance is the Prequelitis you want.
>>344562123
>>344562358
Fast = prequels
Medium = original trilogy
Heavy = exists for gameplay purposes
>>344562639
>Prequel baby.
Holy shit that deflection. Obi wan moved faster in the original triolgy, and he was an old man.
The funy thing is, that kind of combat is completely fucking prequel-esque, with people flipping and flailing their lightsabers around everywhere
>>344560429
Strong style is cancer.
>>344562123
>Lightsabers are actually supposed to be very light, considering the only solid part of them is the handle.
t. prequel shitter. The original vision for lightsabers is that the beam generated a magnetic field around the blade which added real weight, lightsabers are actually supposed to be heavy as fuck, like a real weapon. The original trilogy uses this idea in its duels, KOTOR uses this idea in its duels, and Force Awakens actually made a return to this idea too.
Don't talk shit unless you know what you're talking about.
>>344562850
>>344562887
I'm 100% sure heavy/strong stance is based on some of the "aggressive" stances described in the books.
>>344560429
Because the masses don't want to actually put in effort to be good at a game.
Thy want to press a button and instantly kill shit and do cool stuff as if thy already have skill.
And Star wars is unfortunately not a series that caters to hardcore fans but normies only.
>>344561532
>The overall hero in Star Wars is a child killer
>>344563110
>hero
Luke is the hero. Vader is the hero of the past that failed in his quest and fell into darkness. How you could mistake that is beyond me
>>344563012
That makes no fucking sense.
A stream of plasma contained in a magnetic field would have and infinitely small amount of mass.
Unless you can cite something about lightsabers magically getting heavier when they get turned on, that premise is completely fucking stupid
>>344560429
hmm wonder if anyone still plays the multiplayer on jedi knight:jedi academy i remember that shit being retarded fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HzEoslCgcU
>>344563271
its a fun game you faggot nerd
case,dismissed
>>344563332
play MB2
>>344563332
Yeah, JKA has an online presence.
But Movie Battles 2 is more active, and from what I've been told, it improves on the base multiplayer stuff.
>>344563438
Nah, the game is shit, and your taste is also shit for liking it.
There's a reason the series got canned
>>344562123
>I haven't played the game but take my opinion on it seriously guys
you should probably kill yourself, as there is literally no star wars game with better lightsaber combat
>>344563573
>>344563595
(You)
>>344563271
I'm looking for those documentaries right now where Lucas literally said he wanted lightsabers to feel like real weapons and Hamill confirms that they were originally supposed to be heavy shit.
All I can find via google is reddit fags arguing, so let me find the video that will BTFO you.
I love jedi academy....still play it. Not sure why there is not a current version of this with the graphics. The combat took tons of skill...especially in mp. One of the best twitch based games Imo for pc.
>>344563059
You are correct, the stances are based on the (still) canonical Lightsaber forms.
Red (Heavy) is based on Shii-Cho (Form 1) and Juyo (Form 7).
Then the hidden Desann variant of Red is based on Makashi (Form 2) and Vapaad (different version of Form 7).
Blue (Fast) is based on Soresu (Form 3) and Ataru (Form 4).
The hidden Tavion variant of Blue is based on Shien (Form 5).
And finally Yellow (Medium) is based on Niman (Form 6).
>>344563573
Do people still play on movie battles?
There was a ton of threads up for it when the newest star wars came out, but I haven't seen anybody talk about it at all since then
>>344564521
Yes. There's always 2-3 full servers in both EU and US repectievly.
>>344564467
>They actually gave bosses unique movesets based on canon styles
Holy shit, I didn't even know. That's fantastic.
>>344563679
This guide fails to mention that even if you're walking you can still get pushed down IF the push ends up pushing you to the point of touching a wall or stairs. Only crouch fully protects you from being pushed down.
>>344564732
You can even unlock them for yourself.
/setsaberall 10
>>344563271
Found it, start watching at 3:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIefj6dOhnM
>>344564521
Thats because the last few times some fucks thought it was funny to spam and vote only for the meme maps
>>344563271
Prequel sabers: No feel of impact unless its saber against saber
Original trilogy: Sabers will encounter resistance when cutting trough things. It will still be like cutting trough butter with a molten rod, but you feel something
Raven Software didn't get another chance to make Jedi Knight games, which was a shame. they turned Star Wars action games into a shitty Jedi May Cry
Now Raven is locked down in the Call of Duty dungeon
>>344563012
That would defeat a large portion of the advantage of laser swords, where you don't need apply any force in sword swinging.
>>344564732
You never noticed how their swings are completely different from yours?
>>344565343
The entire fucking point of lightsabers is that A NORMAL HUMAN CAN'T USE THEM EFFECTIVELY, THAT'S THE POINT.
THEY AREN'T MEANT TO BE "EFFECTIVE" IN THE HANDS OF A REGULAR HUMAN.
They're supposed to be a symbol of status for Jedi and only usable by them since only Jedi can actually them effectively without it being a handicap.
Can I still get into Movie Battles 2 as a first-timer? Is it still active?
>>344565379
Not really. But then it's been a very long time since then, last playthrough I did was dark side ending in JA, and I'm pretty sure Kyle uses the standard 3-style moveset. Then again, you also fight Tavion first...so my memory could just be shit.
>>344564969
Never seen that before, thanks anon.
>>344565649
Yes and yes.
Start with either Soldier or ET (Elite Trooper) though in more recent builds ET got renamed to Commander but all veterans still call it ET.
Jedi/Sith is pretty much the hardest class to play so don't even bother at first. They're based on OT Jedi/Sith rather than the all powerful Prequelitis shit.
>the only Star Wars game that basically played like Quake/UnrealChampionshipthat had blasters and Lightsabers
Fuck EA.
>>344565759
Tavion uses dual lightsaber movement when wielding the lightsaber and Ragnos staff. Then she switches to saber staff style when wielding only the Ragnos staff.
Kyle uses the classic 3 styles.
The Tavion and Desann styles aren't used in JK3 SP I believe outside of Alora who uses the Tavion style when you fight her on Hoth for sure. Don't remember if she or Rosh used the Desann style.
But yeah play JK2, it's a much better game when it comes to un-modded experience.
>>344560429
Consoles. It wouldn't work on a controller.
>>344565867
Why are they so hard? I'm a long time player of the vanilla multiplayer and did pretty well duelling on FFA servers
Did you even watch the video? Lucas flip flops on how heavy their supposed to be within 2 minutes
>The were supposed to be very heavy
>You NEEDED 2 hands to wield them
>Until Lucas decided that wielding them one handed was fine too.
>>344566184
Because, IF YOU READ MY FUCKING POST, you'd know that MB2 has completely different Lightsaber system. It plays NOTHING like vanilla. It's a completely different game in every sense of the word. Guns play different as well. Going into MB2 with vanilla JK2/JKA experience will give you nothing, in fact it will only fuck you over since you will try fighting as if it was JK2 or JKA.
>>344566184
>Why are they so hard?
Not that guy and I haven't played much of MB2, but for one you have to actively block incoming fire, rather than have your character do it on its own by default.
MB2 does Jedi/Sith right.
Hard to learn, hard to master, but once you finally do, you really feel poweful but still aren't a Prequels demigod.
Good luck though since it takes months of experience to get even remotely decent at them in MB2 and veterans will still mop the floor with you.
Dark Forces 2 SP > JO SP > JA SP
JA MP > JO MP
Anyone who says otherwise is a fucking scrub and/or poser
>>344566273
The point was (which they do explicitly state in that video) that Luke became increasingly proficient over the course of the movies, so he could try to one-hand it. It's a neat touch that him trying to one-hand it against Vader in Empire Strikes Back is pretty much what got his hand cut off, and then exactly the same thing happens in reverse in Return of the Jedi.
>>344566526
>JA MP
>better
It has worse maps and broken lightsaber mechanics because Raven couldn't finish the game due to license expiring. Poke/Spin is actually a bug that was supposed to be fixed, for starters. It was present in JK2 as well but got fixed in patch 1.02. JKA branched off development from 1.0 build of JK2 hence why it retained the bug.
>>344560429
cause JK required you to think a little bit and thinking has been phased out of gaming
this Movie Battles stuff looks neat, but is there a single player campaign or something like that? I live in south america so playing online doesn't seem like a viable option
>>344567051
No. MB2 is a MP only mod.
Is it worth it to start the series with the first DF? Been a while since I played any build-engine game
>>344567051
Vanilla JK Outcast and Academy have perfectly decent single-player with fun lightsaber combat, despite what some people may tell you. Give them a shot.
>>344567254
If you want. It plays like pretty much any shooter of it's era. If you want lightsaber stuff you're better off going straight for DF 2 + MotS or even Outcast and Academy.
>>344567121
bummer
>>344567320
yeah m8 I've played them a bunch of times, I even played online a few times.
JK Academy is one of my favorite games of all time
>>344567254
dark forces is not a build engine game.
it's beloved to me but a new player would probably find it painfully outdated. what you should be playing is quake if you haven't passed it.
>>344561338
>>344562539Talyn... starburst.
Will we ever get a worthy successor of this franchise, /v/?
>>344567254
DF uses a custom engine by LucasArts, it's not DOOM or Build Engine.
>>344567254
Rumor has it that the first dark forces game used a reversed engineered doom engine.
>>344562123
it's called heavy style. darth vader swings his saber like that in the movies. he's swinging with more strength so it's more difficult to block the blowsand forces your opponent to tire themselves out having to dodge or block strong attacks
>>344566640
>that front diving roll
gets me every time
>>344565234
What about that one scene that's in Episode 1 I think, where they use a saber to cut through a blast door? It takes them a long while if I remember correctly.
>>344562974
I remember the final fight with Desaan could be ended immediately by turning on Dark Rage and leaping at him in heavy style. If you landed that, you basically went from cutscene to cutscene.
>>344568064
Ep1 was the least cancerous of prequels when it comes to the lightsaber combat. Ep1 was also still shot on film and actual sets, rather than being fully digital turd like Ep2 and 3.
>>344564896
WHAT!!!
>>344567254
Get them on GOG.
IIRC Steam's DF2 has compatibility issues with modern OS.
>>344561532
He was the best star pilot in the galaxy, and a cunning warrior.
And this one time, he murdered a bunch of kids so I hid in your mothers ship to confront him, whereupon I hacked off his limbs and left him to burn slowly to death at the side of a Volcano. Galaxy is honestly a worse place for me not putting him out of his misery, honestly.
And he was a good friend.
>>344567794
>Rumor has it that the first dark forces game used a reversed engineered doom engine.
yeah let's go ahead and not repeat that again since the engines have different characteristics and abilities
![ss_7ae5b4d31b0e79ea86a33797ca0f552567e18e18.600x338[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FkO6GiT.jpg "ss_7ae5b4d31b0e79ea86a33797ca0f552567e18e18.600x338[1].jpg")
>>344567631
>>344567769
>>344567794
my bad, I looked at some screenshots and Douk etc. were first thing that came to my mind
>>344568457
DF is considerably more advanced than DOOM engine as well fyi.
Also use DarkXL to play it.
>>344561532
no fucking way
>>344568329
Considering how Alec Guiness felt about Star Wars, it's probably for the best that he didn't live to see th prequels. Or at least the more terrible ones, presumably he wasn't in much state to see The Phantom Menace regardless...
Also one time I fought this super droid with like six arms and each arm had a lightsaber and he wheezed like an asthmatic and I shot him in the heart, did I mention he had a real heart? Well he did and I blasted it with a gun.
It was a more civilized time.
>>344567254
still need to finish MotS... always get stuck somewhere
If you want to play Dark Forces the best way is the following:
http://xlengine.com/downloads/
The source port itself here.
And here's the fix:
http://xlengine.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1062
You still need Dark Forces itself obviously, since this is just a source port.
Oh and you can use console commands, such as r_fov to change FOV for example.
Use "cmdlist" without quotations for full command list.
Not sure if that bugfix addon fixes all bugs, but here's a guide with workarounds to the known bugs in case you run into them.
I know for sure that the fix I posted fixes Nar Shadaa crash, so you definitely won't run into that one at least.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=390640277
>>344568719
Fucking. Meant for >>344568329
>>344568064
Its the only edge case.
In the Original Trilogy, limps get chopped right off, but the Saber doesn't go straight trough, the momentum slows down because the prop do get hit.
In the Prequel, every single laser movement is super floaty. Even when decapitating Darth Maul, there is no stop in momentum.
As they progress, there is more and more of it. From guns to droids, to more.
I am not sure if the Blast Door would actually be any different if it was in Episode 4-6.
Its mostly a difference in how its filmed. In episode 4-6, sabers slows down because they hit a prop, even if the shatters as its suppose to due prop works.
In 1, there is some saber flailing against the Droids. In 2-3, the saber just flails trough, in true CGI fashion.
PC only games don't sell high enough to get the rights to create a star wars game.
Has to be all platforms and accessible to play to maximize profit. Movement can't be that fast since it's hard to play with controllers and normies suck at games. Better chance at getting games with similar mechanics but not being star wars.
>>344568948
Except Outcast and Academy had console versions.
People shit on Ep7 for being ANH rehash but Ep1 was a literal ANH rehash as well. They're both equally shit movies.
I will give you that Ep1 had more original content though than Ep7 next to all its rehash elements.
>>344569060
They were an afterthought and were PC-to-console ports, not like nowadays where console is the lead platform and you get console-to-PC ports.
Also they played horribly on gamepad, as expected. They also had cuts made to level design and geometry.
>>344566319
>spot bad sith player
>immediately switch to wookiee
>ruin
>his
>fucking
>day
>>344569060
meant after disney acquisition
>>344569126
Ep7 was worse because of that mary sue expert-at-everything cunt
>>344569238
>needing wookiee like a scrub
>not just wrecking him with Sold or ET to show him the pecking order
I also miss contact nades and B17 clone blobs.
>>344568025
Sheev spin is the most powerful move in all of Star Wars.
>>344569335
Like I said, I can agree that Ep1 was better of the two but both are equally guilty of being ANH rehashes. Ep1 was just way better disguised.
>>344560687
>>344561532
SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHICH MOD THIS IS
>the star wars SNES games are some of the best and most unique feeling side scrolling action games of all time
>they have this totally unique feel which is shared by no other games, an early attempt at "weighty" controls i guess?
>amazing graphics, sound design, art, some of the best stuff lucasarts ever produced
>have never seen these games mentioned one time on /v/ in 7 years. Not a single time, in any kind of thread
I wonder why /v/ pretends some of the best SNES games don't exist? so odd.
>>344569465
Movie Duels, it's ehh.
http://www.moddb.com/mods/star-wars-movie-duels
>>344569493
Because they're not really "Star Wars", they don't feel Star Wars.
They're just run and gun sidescrolling shooters with forced clunky platforming. They're good but flawed games and certainly don't evoke "Star Wars".
>>344569702
>certainly don't evoke "Star Wars".
LOL when they came out people were so fucking excited for the authenticity of the settings, enemies, etc
sorry but your 2016 evaluation doesnt stick whatsoever, you just didn't like the games because you tried them and they were too hard for you
>>344569702
This exactly. Additionally, there is absolutely nothing to talk about with them.
>>344569857
I beat all 3 of them but shitpost some more. I'm probably older than you as well seeing as you weren't even born when Star Wars came out in cinemas. They were praised at the time because nothing else existed obviously but games evolved since then and actually did Star Wars right, which these three did not.
>>344569343
I can do that too but it's much funnier to watch them scream WOOKIE OP after I wreck them.
Especially because a good Sith player will NEVER lose to a wookie because they don't stay on the ground long enough, can't be knocked down if they're crouching, and can oneshot them with a single swing from red style.
>>344569857
>REEEE YOU JUST HAVE BAD TASTE AND SUCK AT VIDYA
Maybe consider taking your medication before posting, gran autismo.
>>344569702
>games made by lucasarts
>"not really star wars"
ok
>>344570047
>hey were praised at the time because nothing else existed obviously
REALLY? NOTHING ELSE EXISTED OF STAR WARS LIKE X-WING ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR GAMES OF ALL TIME? LOL
NOTHING ELSE EXISTED IN TERMS OF SIDE SCROLLERS ON SNES? LOL
>>344566273
They are heavy though, but once you become proficient you can handle them with much more grace and speed. Presumably, the individual's use of the force might also make it lighter as well since clearly the force can augment someone's physical capabilities.
>>344570337
You should seek professional medical help.
>>344566526
>SP
DF2>JK2>MoS>DF>JA
>MP
JK2>JA, never played MP for the other games.
>>344570564
>that fucking DF2 level design
>>344569702
>>344569998
>platforming means that the character mustn't have actual weight to him
I swear to god you guys are retarded beyond salvation
playing a platformer with a character that has absolutely no weight to him is the definition of casual
>>344570745
The fact you resorted to putting words in my mouth and moving goalposts so fucking hard proves beyond all doubt that you completely lost the argument. Please stop embarassing yourself.
>>344569390
Is this shit real.
>>344560429
because people think having you do 100 hit combos with a lightsaber is cooler than having to somewhat time your swings
>>344560429
>mfw still no Platinum Star Wars game
Anybody played it on the consoles? I imagine it would play pretty ok even with the controller, so what's the problem?
>star wars game
>lightsaber doesn't kill things in one hit
>>344567254
Dark Forces is a good game if you like shooters of that era, but it's its own custom engine.
Dark Forces 2 is great, I'd recommend if you want to play as sith or jedi that you play Sith on the easier difficulty as Jedi are OP in the game thanks to Force Protection/Healing.
Mysteries of the Sith is a pain in the balls to get functioning on modern OS, but if you can get it to work its about as good as DF2. The story is weaker, and you don't have the wonderfully hammy FMV cutscenes, but the gameplay is arguably better as are some of the levels.
JK2 is great; the SP takes awhile to really build momentum and the shooting isn't all that good, but once you get the lightsaber it becomes incredibly fun.
JA is sort of like an expansion to JK2 it doesn't feel like a full sequel. The gameplay improvements are welcome but the story and is garbage and the SP feels disconnected and fairly boring at times. The customization options for your character are a nice touch, but it just feels much more mediocre overall.
Overall its a great series though, I'd just recommend the set when it goes on sale as basically every game is at or above a 7/10. Just be aware that the 3 games prior to JK2 have aged, and are difficult to get running properly (especially MoS).
>>344571167
It's actually not that bad on either console. You don't get to wiggle but wiggle was a fucking shitty mechanic anyways.
That's pretty brutal for Star Wars I don't remember anyone getting dismembered in the old movies.
>>344571387
Did you forget all three movies?
>>344571261
thanks m8
>>344570673
I can't tell if you enjoy it or hate it.
It's good in a lot of spots but some of the later levels are irritating as fuck to playthrough for the first time. Its so easy to get lost, but man do they feel huge.
>>344561442
LE CONSOLES MEME XDDD
the jedi knight games were on consoles you fucking retarded child
>>344571261
what happened with ja's story/singleplayer? jk2 had genuinely good writing and the pacing paid off really well, it's hard to believe the same people made both games
>>344568153
First blow saber lock with him than insta killed with next blow for me.
>>344566640
What's the lighting mod? Or is that stock for Movie Battles?
>>344571578
Luke lost a hand but I don't recall anyone being cut in fucking half.
>>344571015
Anyone has a full list of the map names on JA?
My game keeps crashing after the Rosh boss fight and using devmap for the next missions restarts my run
>>344571801
That's not MB2.
>>344569390
What the fuck is this? Did they remaster the lego SW games?Please say yes, I need any excuse to play them
The Lego CW game actually made me watch the whole Clone Wars. What a low key end and post-mortem season.
>>344571803
Darth Maul?
Obi wan sort of did as well but he just phased into a force ghost.
The dude in the Cantina loses his arm and there's blood everywhere.
Luke loses his arm and so does Vader. And Vader loses his head in V during a dream sequence.
>>344567769
Yeah, it's called the Jedi Engine
>>344563086
I hope youre ACTUALLY implying that jedi knight has a deep combat system
the multiplayer in these games is precisely a laughable shitshow because skill has nothing to do with the fighting and it just boils down to 2 "pro"s trying to bait eachother into heavy overheads
>>344572264
It's Lego Star Wars Droid Tales. C-3PO just recounts the events of the Star Wars movies.
>>344560429
Can't improve what's perfect, anon.
Except movie duels online. That shit is just amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyH7P7j-9AQ
>>344572306
Maul is not from the old movies you dumb fuck and losing hands is hardly on the same level as cutting someone in half.
>jka combat system
everyone swinging around like retards
>Mb2 combat system
slower and harder combat, if you're good you ARE good
>>344569390
Could meme magic be even more powerful than the force?
>>344567254
Just pirate them or buy them on GOG honestly. LucasArts is dead, and the only one who's getting money now is Disney, who literally nothing to do with the game other than owning rights.
>>344560574
Sad how we've only had one Star Wars game in the past couple years. If anything was hurt by the Disney buyout it's Star Wars games.
>>344571595
No problem, I just did my first playthrough of every game in the series so my overviews aren't tainted with nostalgia. I started with the first game and went through each chronologically and its probably the best way to go unless you absolutely cannot stand 90s era shooters.
Also MoS rarely gets talked about because it is a REAL bitch to get running (I think I started and stopped it like 4 times before some new bug would crash everything). But it is a great game and deserves to be mentioned with the rest, the main protag isn't as interesting as Kyle Katarn, but some of the levels are just bursting with fan service in the best of ways and are very well designed.
>>344571741
I have no idea, I get from a story telling perspective why it would be nice to move to an older Kyle training an apprentice. But they just really fucked it up with characters that were just completely uninteresting. Really everything comes down to making Rosh Penin a fucking annoyance.
Sure make him unlikable, but don't make him irritating.
>>344572306
A new hope is my favorite but I never understood how there was blood in that cantina scene, since the lightsaber would just cauterize the wound immediately as it's being cut.
>>344572753
>got a shitty cartoon that literally has people flying on lightsabers like helicopters
>people eat this up and there is a general on /co/
>>344572753
Everything was hurt by it.
TFA was a mistake.
>>344572881
The reason why is that IV is a piece of shit prototype rather than actual SW movie.
>>344563573
>>344563679
Best Star Wars game out right now.
>>344564521
I used to make daily threads around then to get people playing, but I got sucked into real life stuff.
>>344572881
Probably because it was the first and only time in the movie where someone gets chopped by one and they didn't think that far.
Always remember that Star Wars was not really expected to have this many sequels, let alone to succeed financially.
>>344572998
ANH is the best one though m8
New Hope > Empire > Return >>>>> Revenge = TFA >>> Phantom >>>>> Clone Wars
>>344572981
THANK YOU LENS FLARE MAN
>>344573181
>phantom better than everything
this movie is why I hated SW for most of my life because I thought they are all equally dog shit
>>344572585
Wow that's some shit editing. I made it through about 20 seconds before I exited out
>>344571697
not him but you need to calm down, spergo
>>344572981
>lens flare man
I don't get it.
Was there a lot of lense flare in that movie? I barely remember anything about it.
>>344569857
Yeah too bad that they aged like every other early 90s platformer, like shit. There is a reason why it's a dead genre and FPS and TPS are like 90% of the market for the last 15 years.
>>344572981
THANK YOU LENS FLARE MAN
>>344573286
Clone wars is worse if only because an hour of politics and trade is more tolerable than an hour of soap opera tier romance.
>>344572676
No, anon... meme magic IS the force.
>>344573379
The director, forgotten his name. He's infamous for putting lens flares fucking everywhere in the new Star Trek movies.
>>344573379
j.j. abrams loves his lens flares
>>344573379
There was a little.
It's just that JJ is infamous for it. He has lens flare in every movie he's ever made, and there's shit tons in both of his star trek films.
>>344573510
So what u sayin is
wez jedis n shit?
>>344572981
fuck you lens flare man, you're not even directing the other movies
>>344563573
Barely nigger. Every server I try is bots only
>>344573337
your loss m8.
>>344571106
>Platinum Star Wars game
Didn't know I wanted this until now, and now I'm sad we'll never get one.
>>344573740
He's not? I thought he did a servicable job turning a multi-billion budget into a campy movie for nerds
>>344573853
mb2 has no bots though
>>344560429
>Decided to pick this game up a few months back around January/February for nostalgia sake and see how the multiplayer community is doing.
>Literally dying. Servers rarely reach max and reach to probably 15 people. Almost all of the teamdeathmatch/siege/battle severs are filled with bots where you are the only one playing, RPG profession servers where you can choose a class from bounty hunter, trooper, jedi/sith are shutdown, and RP server which used to be filled from 2006 - 2008 are nonexistent now.
Fuck man. I always hate seeing good things die off because it hits you straight in the nostalgia/reminiscing stomach.
>>344568457
It uses the Jedi engine, which was custom-built by LucasArts
He didn't deserve that dishonoraburu deth
>>344573969
mb2 senpai
we're waiting
>>344573909
>wanting to dodge lightsabers with i-frames
kill yourself, my man
>>344573939
I think disney decided early on since the buyout to get a different director for each movie
>>344560429
Anyone play on private servers still?
>>344568521
>>344568457
>>344567254
Yep DF is fucking amazing. It also had looking up and down while doom shoots everything on a vertical line in the middle of your screen.
Don't buy it on Steam though. it's garbage for old games. Always go to gog if you can.
>>344573969
Happened to me with Warcraft 3.
It's sad, really. It's like the first chapter of this animu.the rest of it was shit
>>344574251
Dark Forces 2 is even better.
>>344568521
>>344568457
If you want to play DF1, pick up the mod for Jedi Academy which lets you play the entire campaign with Jedi Academy graphics and gameplay.
>>344574362
Triggerred my Aliens vs Predator PTSD.
>>344564171
If I recall correctly, they discuss it in the feature "Empire of Dreams" which came with the DVD boxset.
There one of them says it was supposed to be a heavy weapon, like excalibur.
>>344574141
Isn't that just for the off-spin series like the Rogue one? Because that's rather stupid idea from Disney to ruin the consitency. I understand that those movies are most likely made by a committee but still that's even less of a reason to swap directors.
>>344574362
Reminds me of Quake 2
>>344573379
JJ WAS infamous for putting SHIT TONS of lensflare in his first star trek reboot. Eventually he saw that he's overdoing it (because his wife told him lel) and now it's pretty much fine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miL6UxY5bnU
>>344560429
>Ended up playing Jedi Knight as a kid
>Never got very far, just made my plo-koon character and ran around
>Went to Funcoland to get my game
>Didn't remember it's name because I guess I was a retard kid
>End up buying Battlefront
Should I get back into it guys
>>344562850
>>344562639
Fast is modeled on Obi-wan's style in A New Hope, medium is based on Luke's style, and Heavy is based on Darth Vader's style.
>>344573969
its already been shilled a few times this thread, but try out the moviebattles2 mod, it has an active community and frankly the gameplay isbetter than the base game
>>344574080
>implying he won't be back
I can't get dismemberment to work in Jedi Academy, it keeps resetting my edits. G_saberrealisticcombat 2 doesn't work either.
![darkforces[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wX1luif.jpg "darkforces[1].jpg")
>>344574405
>death star is just a transparent polygon model
Just us the XLengine or what's the name
>>344571106
>>344573909
>Platinum
kys
Because that's a shit combat mechanic?
All you is try to lock the mouse on the enemy and spam clicks hoping to hit him by luck.
>>344576037
>he had to spam and rely on "luck"
>>344574793
It's a good series, there isn't an outright bad game in the entire series.
JK2/JA is a great jedi simulator
DF is from the "DOOM clone" era so it plays like an early-mid 90s shooter. Its a little more "cinematic" than DOOM or any of those games, but the shooting is much slower and less frantic.
DF2/MoS; its like Quake with a lightsaber and an enjoyable plot, HUGE levels, fun fun game.
>>344567051
Movie Duels
>doing a red swing and swinging your mouse like a retard so you hit him more times with one swing
no ty
MBII is where it's at
>>344574362
Well it came out in 97. technology was making huge leaps back then. dark forces REALLY impressed for 95's standards.
What always throws me back is the control scheme for these old games. Of course these days WASD + left mouse to shoot + space to jump is THE universally accepted best way to control 99% of shooting games. Back then, not so much
Dark forces controls:
Arrow keys: up down forwards and backwards, left right to rotate
> and < or alt + arrows to strafe
c to crouch
x to jump
shift for "speed mode" (sprint basically)
caps for "slow mode" (slow walk)
pgup and pgdn for looking up and down and keypad 5 for center view
ctrl for fire and z for alt fire
0-9 weapon select
f8 holster weapon
F9/f10 cycle weapons up/down
tab map
+/- zoom map
F1 brings up the quest menu and inventory/objectives 'n shit
f2 NVgoggles
f3 cleats (for moving on ice)
f4 gas mask
f5 head lamp
f6 head wave on/off
f7 Hud toggle
pause to pause
backspace switch between current and last weapon
alt + f8 toggle automount.
What a fucking mess by todays standarts. Or Argonauts Alien Ressurection on the PS1 which for the first time used the left analogstick to move and the right to aim. something gamespot heavily bashed them for since they were used to the old style of using the shoulder buttons to strafe. kek.
>>344576037
>All you is try to lock the mouse on the enemy and spam clicks hoping to hit him by luck.
>>344576110
>Hurr I can predict where the opponent is going to move and create a complex strategy because I'm skilled
>>344576652
we get it anon, you're bad.
>>344563248
this wtf
i hate these people
damn
>>344576714
You're probably one of those people who just walked back and forth thinking you were baiting the other guy
>>344576930
Sure anon, this bait is pretty stale all things considered
>>344571619
It's some 10/10 stuff. Going back to it after playing almost any other FPS is mindblowing.
So which SW game has the best combat?
just play MBII desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gVXsYWUahQ
>>344568329
LOL
i love this meme
the venom snake was best tho
>>344577439
Outcast or Academy. No one will agree between the two, and then there's that guy who pushes DFII/MotS as having better combat, etc.
>>344568457
reminds me of disruptor. such a good game
>>344577439
mods for jka>jka>outcast
Outcast had some stupid shit you could abuse
>>344574351
Read the LN!
>>344577482
What Venom Snake one
You can't say that and not post it
>>344560429
Consoles, specifically control pads.
/thread
>>344574478
why
>>344577453
>6:37
holy shit he got BTFO so hard
i guess i could try it out
>>344577951
>/threading your own post
You're right though, JK combat would never work on a console, and even if it did console babbies would throw a tantrum until it got changed.
>>344573286
>not knowing how greater than signs work
Personally, I don't feel JO got lightsabers right either. Dismemberment mod is cool and all, but it's not very satisfying to kill everything with one hit. I'm not saying sabers have to be batons, but dismemberment effectively replaces the fun with edge.
I'd be more satisfied with lightsaber combat that features blade clashes so you're actually fighting like in the OT.
A system with more intuitive damage and control, like Die by the Sword's, would be ideal.
>>344579849
I agree, JO was the first step in lightsaber control, but honestly it's pretty clunky. I'd like to see a new system devised, to get both the fluidity and variety of the combat we see in the films and shows.
>>344579849
>I'd be more satisfied with lightsaber combat that features blade clashes so you're actually fighting like in the OT.
Outcast and Academy had saber clashes though.
>but it's not very satisfying to kill everything with one hit
That only happens with mods. Or maybe a very lucky/good strike with Strong, but that's about it.
>>344578508
It worked pretty well on the gamecube.
>>344577916
i donthave the cap on my
phone but it s the one that started the meme and ot
became pretty ducking hilarious over the
course of a month
i think just googling he was a good friend and snake did i ever tell you
will get you the original meme
>>344581306
>Outcast and Academy had saber clashes though.
The smash-mouse1 thing is only when two attacks hit at the same time.
>That only happens with mods
I recall killing everything except bosses with one hit when I enabled dismember in console. You could even move your mouse idly and lop off every limb off a trooper or reborn before they hit the ground.
Shit like that just shatters immersion.
>>344581219
Some kind of momentum mechanic which allows opponents to switch between offense and defense would be ideal to allow for more dramatic duelling. Though like I said, I'd rather have fighting be more like the OT than overchoreographed bullshit like in the prequels.
Because LucasArts hates fun
Also, anything after RotJ is now considered non-canon
So you will never ever have the chance to tickle Kyle Katarn's glorious beard
GG Star Wars games, Jedi Academy was truly the last of the best era of Star Wars
>>344582294
>The smash-mouse1 thing is only when two attacks hit at the same time.
But you still have collisions when sabers don't land direct hits. I'm not sure what more you want.
>when I enabled dismember in console
Yeah, no shit. In the vanilla game that basically never happens outside of shit-tier enemies like troopers, anything with a saber requires multiple direct hits or a solid strike with Strong. The tougher dark jedi take a shit ton of damage and you can get really good fights out of them sometimes.
Also, have some lightsaber styles
>>344575168
I'd like that
>>344582294
A momentum mechanic would be nice. One of the other things that would automatically improve the system is actually modern tech. Animations that aren't limited by the Quake Engine, so I can feel like I'm not just clicking and pressing key combos at an odd interval.
>I'd rather have fighting be more like the OT than overchoreographed bullshit like in the prequels.
I want the best of both worlds mate, not restricted to one.
>>344575168
Well there are 2 more from his squad that are alive. So there could be 2 more coming for pay back.
NPCSpawnJedi_Random
NPCSpawnReborn_whatever
I just make massive battles and watch
>>344584782
>Enable dismemberment
>Spawn 20+ Rebel soldiers
>Spawn dark jedi
>Watch the ensuing battle
Or
>Spawn 20+ Storm Troopers
>Carve your way through them
If you guys really like Star Wars shit, you guys should check out the multiplayer mod Bear Force II for Mount & Blade. Really feels what EA Battlefront should have been.
Just wish the servers were more populated.
>>344585494
Found it in /mbg/ the other day. They released a patch not so long ago in June. It looks interesting.
>>344585494
or you could just play mb2
Sword combat in general is a clusterfuck and good luck getting Disney to do jack shit with the franchise that isn't geared towards kids.
>>344585494
>>344585670
Why not both? I'll be trying out and probably staying in both of them.
>>344574718
I like how they played circus music in his intro.
>>344562974
Say that to my face not online.
>>344560687
LOL, I never noticed the swipe takes his arm off as well.
The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword perfected it!
>>344581219
God damn Count Dooku was so fucking cool in that show.
>that time he fought off like 5 Jedi at once while in his PJs with his eyes closed with one hand
>>344587845
Weren't those night sisters?
>>344587845
They were Nightsisters pretending to be Jedi, and they ambushed him in his sleep. Seen here >>344584236
But Dooku fights all them in his comfy PJs and dispatches all of them.
>>344588507
Yeah, you're right. I forgot. Been a while since I've seen it.
>>344588631
Its too bad the nightsisters was a pack of wild jobbers
>>344574362
Fuck that level. I played on the hard difficulty, and it has an even shorter countdown timer than normal. Missing even one jump means you might as well load a quicksave and do it again.
>>344588998
Ventress was great, but the rest of the Nightsisters lacked skill, and got BTFO'd by Grevious during the Invasion of Dathomir.
