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Everyone is a fucking idiot but me edition
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>>344549505
Game is perfect, if you disagree you are a shitposter

Also make more memes because actual discussion is not allowed
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>>344549782
Where is Kyle tho?
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>>344549782
So what so you think these threads should be, smartass?

Do you think these stupid arguments are better than people making OC and actually having fun with it? ffs it's just people regurgitating the same shit over and over and fucking over about mind hacks and the dropped plot threads. It's nauseating to read and it's not going to change what we got. "Actual discussion" my fucking ass at least nobody making memes is lying to themselves about it being a circlejerk

This board is so fucking negative and never does anything but whine and bitch and complain to feel superior and for a few days these were a really fun way to get over the absurdity and disappointment with the game but apparently you're all intent on ruining that too
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I'm sorry if I'm too stupid to understand but since Delta does not have SHIFT abilities, how is he in timelines where Sigma and Diana didn't fuck?
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>>344549858
Kyle was the security guard that approved Sigma/Phi/Akane's entry into Dcom. When she said he was essential to their infiltration she wasn't lying.

Thank you for playing life is simply unfair
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>>344549965
>ffs it's just people regurgitating the same shit over and over

oh, you mean just like all the "hilarious" memes? you can leave if you don't like it
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>>344550075
Every timeline ZTD uses is a branching off of the timeline where Delta was born. Doesn't matter if they actually banged in that specific timeline or not.

Same reason TWO CARLOS is a thing. Carlos teleported ten months back, before the Decision Game started creating all the alternate timelines we use, so he's technically in all of them
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>>344550075
Because he was sent back in time to 1904. Every ending in ZTD contained Delta since then.
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>>344550075
Magical ayylien tech
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>>344550263
>TWO CARLOS
Please explain.
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>>344550195
>oh, you mean just like all the "hilarious" memes?
The absolute lowest effort memes are ten times more original than anyone bitching about the game itself like we didn't all play the same thing

Feel free to leave if other people finding something funny bothers you that much though
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>>344550451
>Carlos teleports back ten months to save Akane and Junpei in that one timeline but doesn't bother actually stopping Zero
>Every timeline branches off from the coinflip and he arrived long before that
>There is now a second Carlos in every timeline that the game never acknowledges or mentions again
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>>344550476
you are the one whining because people don't act like you want, so you should leave because you clearly lack the maturity to be around other people
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>>344550605
What if that Carlos ended up SHIFTing into current Carlos?
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>>344550786
Does it matter? They would keep exchanging consciousness.
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>>344550749
And you're the one clearly pissy enough to drag it into a second thread so maybe it should be you if you can't go that long without yelling at someone

It's ok Anon one day you'll graduate high school and you'll understand
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If Delta MINDHACK'D an esper just as they were about to SHIFT would he be able to control where/who they SHIFTed into?
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reminder that Foxy Grandpa is best incarnation of Junpei
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>>344551094
Maybe.
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If the game was played from Maria's perspective as she is accessing the Morphogenic Field to help everyone, that would have made it a billion times better.
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>>344551080
I just posted it to make faggots like you complain, maybe one day you will grow a brain and understand too
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>>344551220
I expected Junpei to become like Tenmyouji over the course of 45 years, interesting that he turned into an asshole over the course of one year and then probably mellowed out once he found some level of meaning and happiness in Quark.
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>>344551220
Despite all the shit he talks he still went crawling back as soon as Akane was mentioned.
ZTD Junpei is the best and that's why he gets the best ending of being paired with Akane's delicious rump.
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it feels like the game was half as long as VLR and maybe 999 (depending on how much of that game's content you go through), which is a shame because it could have used more endings and developemnt for characters
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>>344550605
>>Carlos teleports back ten months

so Delta kept the transporter in some room without anyone controlling it even if it could receive something at any moment?
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>>344551325
The only perspective that would have made the game better is if we were playing someone who was viewing events through the Quantum Computer, because the camera shit would have made sense.
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>>344551220
He's the same shit as always just replace AKANE with QUARKU
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>>344550605
>Carlos knows how to effectively use the transporter after a brief explanation
>Old Sigma, the guy who created robots and all the mechanical stuff from VLR, randomly selects a place on the timeline because he doesn't understand how it works AFTER BEING IN THE ESCAPE ROOM THAT EXPLAINED IT

why was Sigma such a blockhead in ZTD?
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>>344551628
But you are the Qauntum Computer
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i've seen people say that 999's puzzle were the best but honestly i found them to be piss easy even when i played it years ago. i struggled way more with VLR (and to a lesser extent ZTD)

i also hated how the game constantly killed the pacing when they decided to go into an exposition dump mid puzzle, the other two in the series at least have the courtesy of doing it in the downtime between puzzles
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>>344551456
>old Akane didn't shift
>old Junpei told her to fuck off
VLR had the best ending.
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>>344551740
Apparently Diana and Akane did most of the work on the moon base and old Sigma was just fucking around.
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I've decided that I can forgive a lot of the game's flaws because I still enjoyed it

but I still think Delta's character is retarded as hell
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>>344551829
Old Junpei didn't even have the balls to talk to Akane before taking his little shota boytoy and leaving.
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>>344551879
>Sigma spent 42 building a sexbot while Akane did all the work
That explains a lot
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>>344551879
>Old Sigma focused all his time on his waifubot and muttered about termites under his breath

truly the best Zero
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>>344551942
He's the same as old Akane from VLR, basically.
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>>344551995
>talk to a murderer
Why? He knows that Akane isn't worth it.
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>>344551740
For the same reason he was moved from being the playable character for D-Team to just being there, it would have been unfair for new players since they don't know him

>>344551879
that's wrong tho
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>>344551995
More like he finally realized his waifu was shit
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>>344551942
"Mind hacking" was a fucking retarded idea. It should have just been "hey I'm really good at reading the morphogenetic field ao I know what people are thinking, and I can write to it so well that I can force people to instinctively do what I want."

I don't know what Uchikoshi was thinking. This didn't even require more dev time, it was right fucking there from the beginning.
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THREADLY REMINDER

The threads got boring not long after release. The OC was welcome but you can only discuss the same exact things so many times. I personally haven't lurked these threads in days. It could have been so much better ;_;
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>>344552265
>"hey I'm really good at reading the morphogenetic field ao I know what people are thinking, and I can write to it so well that I can force people to instinctively do what I want."
But that could have been how it worked. We don't know how it works, though, we just know the stupid name.
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>>344552165
>it would have been unfair for new players since they don't know him

new players shouldn't be fucking playing the third game in a story heavy series
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>>344551824
I agree with you, but I liked the puzzle rooms for the aesthetic and how a lot of the environment was included

ZTD returned to this kinda, but with a bunch of obnoxious cube puzzles
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>no D-Team epilogue whatsoever

what the fuck, Uchi
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>>344552318
Those dirty fucking liars
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>>344552402
I thought it was neat in the D team baby ending how we got to see Diana and Siggy make use of the rooms.
Especially chilling by the floating clouds.

It seemed like the only ending that had much thought put into it.
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>>344551824
I liked the big conversations in the rooms. It made them feel more integrated into the story, and it added to the character dynamics.
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>>344552165
>it would have been unfair for new players since they don't know him
I could buy this shitty explanation because it explains some other shit, but the game would not change a bit if Sigma was the protagonist of D team.
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>>344552563
we'll have to make do with what we can, I guess
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>>344552662
>It seemed like the only ending that had much thought put into it.
Because Uchi personally wrote D team and delegated the other teams to other writers.
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>>344551824
The puzzles aren't considered good because of difficulty, they're considered good because they don't just make you play a retarded version of lights out
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>>344552662
yeah I really liked that ending, it feels like the others weren't nearly as fleshed out, which is a damn shame
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>>344552563
I wouldn't be so upset about the lack of a D team epilogue if it weren't for the fact that Q team got one.
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>>344552840
and it was retarded as all hell

In fact all of the epilogues read like bad fanfiction
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So was Delta just chilling in the wheelchair around the teams at all times? I don't get it.
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>>344552904
If they were anything like the rest of their team's stories, they were written by someone other than Uchi. So it was literally bad fanfiction. Unlike Delta, which is just bad fiction.

This is why Junpei and Akane are best characterized in the premium booklet.
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>>344552662
I hated it. I couldn't stop thinking about how retarded is to have babies in that situation.
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What complex motive did Delta have for shooting Gab?
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>>344552318
The last question is kind of answered, Free the Soul was started by Delta and that's how long it existed, right? You can sort of fill the blanks. All the others are fucked, I cant believe he didn't even write in epilogues for the D-team.

So does the old Sigma in the best ZTD ending just get to live in that body for another full lifetime?
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>>344553038
Just with Q team.
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>>344551740
Akane deliberately trained him wrong as a joke
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Blick-Winkel here, I can't stream tonight.

Made some plans I forgot about.
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>>344553113
>So does the old Sigma in the best ZTD ending just get to live in that body for another full lifetime?
Probably. Young Sigma from VLR jumps back to April 13th in the VLR timeline, not across all timelines.
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>>344551824
I kinda liked the the interruptions in puzzle rooms, made it feel more organic.
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>>344553064
While this is true, do you think they had birth control or any method of performing a safe abortion?
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How come none of them commented on the fact that Mira is a serial killer that killed Eric's mom at the end?

Seemed like an important point and no one really mentions it.
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>>344553427
>do you think they had birth control
don't fucking cum inside, Sigma you putz
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My watch edition got delivered, but no watch
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>>344553408
Me too. I felt like I got more from the characters that I chose to puzzle with, as opposed to VLR where most characterization happened in endings.
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>>344553482
Every thread.

Read the epilogue files.

Alternatively, if you've already read them, and mean before that, Delta was a much more pressing threat at the time.
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>>344553545
Maybe he has PE

You're so insensitive
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So a snail saved humanity?
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>>344553427
Do you think someone as smart as Sigma couldn't induce an abortion? It would've been believable if it were Eric and Mira, but Sigma and Nurse-san not knowing better is just retarded.
But Uchi needed his ebin twist.
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>>344553642
that's why I liked the formula of switching up the groups every puzzle room, it was interesting to see how different combinations of people acted together

ZTD had some nice banter and development within groups but I'd like to see how, say, Junpei Phi and Eric would handle a tense situation
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>>344553545
Doesn't always work out.

And don't tell me you wouldn't spend your last ten months in that situation fucking your waifu.
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>In the prologue, Junpei is a confused, angry bitter mess, looking for answers and unsure of Akane's feelings.
>Akane is a strong woman putting the world over her own feelings, and silently taking the responsability of hurting her beloved once again
>In the game they're Max Payne and generic Yandere
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>>344552758
No wonder the only good ending's were D-teams, literally the only best ending, besides "shoot me i dare you."
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>>344553281
Keep fighting the good fight my dude

What was the last ending you got?
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>>344554027
Maybe Diana is religious and doesn't believe in abortion.

Or maybe Sigma always wanted to wanted to copy his offspring across spacetime.
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>>344554156
I forced us through all the First Come, First Saved shit yesterday, and we got Q-End 1.
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>>344554064
Well yes one was written by Uchi and one wasn't.

This game would have been so much better if Uchi wrote the whole thing, it wouldn't have fixed the Delta thing but we would have got some great characterization from C team.

On the other hand, Carlos may have been different.
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>>344554064
yeah that kind of annoyed me as well, Akane felt as crazy as Clover with all the chainsaw murder and what have you

what's the explanation for why Uchi didn't write for all the teams?
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>>344554204
Stop ignoring Kyle's existence, dammit.
Anyways, it was too dumb for me.
Same with Delta always being there for no good reason.
Fun game, but awful writing and twists.
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>>344554330
Probably didn't have enough time otherwise. See the title of the game. Might even be why he ended up dropping things like Kyle.
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>>344553064
I got the vibe that Sigma had figured the Phi thing out when the transporters were revealed and Diana having the Brooch.

It wasn't explicitly said out loud, but you'd have to be a retard to name your child Phi, plan to send her away in a transporter and not realize the connection.
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Why does no one go all "Hey remember that timeline where you brutally murdered me? That shit was fucked up." when everyone gets their memories of other timelines?
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>>344554565
I'd have to guess that's why none of the prologue stuff from the booklet was in the actual game and it just started right at the coin flip

oh well, I'm glad the game got made anyways because it's a damn miracle that it even happened at all
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>>344554630
I wouldn't put it past Sigma.
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>>344554732
Q team is just that fucked up, and C team is basically even.
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It's just hard to believe that it's all over

no more dumb theories or speculation and hoping

hold me /v/
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>>344554732
because every single of them does some kind of shit
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6 BILLION
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So maybe I misunderstood but did Sigma fuck up with the transporter?

I remember him saying he was sending Phi and Delta to 2008 but they ended in 1904. Did Sigma fuck up or am I a retard?
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Sean is cute
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>>344554732
because those were other people that died
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>>344555190
I wanted to see what the original Sean's face looked like but we only got a back shot
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>>344555223
>>344555094
most tumblr ZE fanart is utter garbage (usually when it includes Phi) but some is good
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>>344555182
He just said before 2009.
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>>344555379
Why are they tickling him?
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>>344555473
So I'm a retard and just assumed before 2009 would be 2008

Got it
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>>344555480
I mean, who wouldn't want to?
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>>344555379
I WILL POST MOAR
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>>344555554
No it was a reasonable assumption at the time because that would have lined up with Phi's age.
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>>344554732
Dammit, that would've been a fun Epilogue.
>Junpei: So, Mira, why exactly did you chainsaw my head and limbs off?
>Delta: I can answer that: it was for Akane's reaction. That was fun.
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Post unofficial rankings:

Story:
999 > VLR > ZTD

Characters:
ZTD = 999 > VLR

Atmosphere:
999 > ZTD = VLR

Music:
VLR = 999 > ZTD

Graphics:
>ur a faget___

TWEEST:
999 > VLR = ZTD

Memes:
ZTD > VLR > 999

Friendly reminder all of the games are inherently good in their own right.
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>>344555618
Junpei it's kind of fucking creepy to dress up like your girlfriend
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>>344555618
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Are you going to fuck off to vg anytime soon?
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>>344555679
>999 twist
>good
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>>344553113
>>344553297
So what, he just leaves Kyle and Luna, their kids, left to rot in the moonbase on the VLR timeline?
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>>344555679
Story:
999>VLR>ZTD

Characters:
VLR>999=ZTD

Atmosphere:
999 > ZTD = VLR


Music:
VLR = 999 >>>>>>>>>>> ZTD

Graphics
I liked 999's style, others were serviceble


TWEEST:
999 > VLR >>>>>>>> ZTD

Memes:
ZTD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VLR > 999
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>>344555763
Dianna face in the lower square is adorable
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>>344555763
Nothing is stopping him from making Luna, Lagomorph and Kyle in the true ending timeline
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>>344555815
>>344555618
>>344555223
STOP

I wish I had prosopagnosia so I didn't have to see this shit
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>>344555951
Why is that surprising? He watched his kids starve to death too.
Sigma is as selfish as Akane.
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>>344555679
Story:
999>VLR>ZTD

Characters:
999>ZTD>VLR

Atmosphere:
999>ZTD>VLR

Music:
999>VLR>ZTD

Graphics:
I liked looking at 999 the best. ZTD had better models than VLR but that animation, and I missed narration existing.

TWEEST:
VLR>999>ZTD

Memes:
ZTD>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>VLR=999

I agree.
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I'm going to marry Carlos!
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>>344555824
The 999 twist was pretty much out of nowhere, but less stupid than ZTD's.

VLR twist was best because it suddenly made everything make sense and you could recognize the foreshadowing.
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>>344556203
Spotted the 999 faggot
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>>344555951
Old Sigma in the VLR ending timeline will swap places with Young Sigma again on April 13, 2029.
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>>344556265
>black mira
what
WHAT
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>>344556328
999 was a great game, the hell are you talking about?
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>>344556178
>He watched his kids starve to death too.
I really hope they figured out a way to just blow everything up before that happened.
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>>344556397
YOU AINT SEE HELL YET ANON
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>>344556487
PUSH IT
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>>344556478
What is the significance of Delta giving Akane these robes? What happens on April 19th or whatever date it was that he told Akane to be at the Free the Soul meeting on?
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Can I jump and play ZTD without having played the other games?
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>>344555951
No, the one who lives at the end of the VLR timeline will go and replace them, his mission a failure due to Carlos.
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>>344556478
Not even as great as you make it sound.

Characters were mediocre, music doesn't hold a candle to VLR. Story was lacking, sprites are puke-inducing, pacing is garbage and escape rooms are awful.
Only great thing was the atmosphere
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>>344556328
It's weird that I answered 999 for everything, because I feel like I might put VLR ahead of it in an overall rating. All in all I'd say they're pretty close in all departments, aside from atmosphere and memes, which I would give to 999 and ZTD hands down.

But 999 was great, so fuck you.
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>>344554887
Sigma gave me some kinzo vibes this time around, except he's not as horrible as kinzo and would never commit a 'mistake'

>Fall in love with diana
>Even years after she's dead he can't get over her
>Spend 25 goddamn years trying to recreate his waifu a la kinzo
>But once he's finally done, he comes to think of his creation as his and diana's daughter instead (unlike kinzo)
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>>344556634
get out before someone tells you phi is a transgender aoi kurashiki aka santa
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>>344556628
It's literally just to explain why Akane was wearing FTS robes in VLR when you see her on April 13, 2029.
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>>344556487
>Carlos-B breaks the door open
>Sean boots up bots 001-728 and gets to work
>Akane actually brings help after 11 months of grieving
Pick one.
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>>344556643
>sprites are puke-inducing
I agree with everything except this
take it back motherfucker
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>>344556643
Pretty much this, 999 was the first VN for most people or people just like it because it's the less "japanese" between all the others.

ZE in general attracts people that hate the "japanese" aesthetics and aspects of the various japanese VN
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>>344555379
2 akanes no 9th man.
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>>344556634
You technically could but you'd be spoiling yourself on two games which are much better than ZTD. If you don't have a 3ds or Vita, the other two games are coming to Steam soonish. If you just don't have a DS, you could emulate 999.
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>>344556815
The backgrounds are good, the sprites are not.
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>>344556643
>music doesn't hold a candle to VLR
Found the shit taste
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>>344556643
I dunno, I'd take mediocre sprites over this shit any day

and VLR had some annoying characters (Quarku, Alice, fucking Clover)

but I agree with your other points
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>>344555679
999 twist was straight garbage tho

For like half a second it was mindblowing and then they jump the shark with morphogenetic field shit WAY too hard and Junpei goes from vaguely remembering an eight-digit number to straight up communicating with past Akane. Fuckin ridiculous if you ask me, it was obvious they were going to do some morphogenetic field shit at the end but I wish they had played it a little more straight.

Is it worth it to play 999 again for atmosphere now that the series is over? I still think that it had the best premise of all of them (well except the AB Game, that was 10/10 and I'll probably replay that too eventually)
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>>344556815
not him; the original art is great but somewhere in the digitizing process the sprites got truly wretched
look at this shit
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>>344556896
>only 2 characters not from Japan
>less "japanese"
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>>344557052
>Is it worth it to play 999 again for atmosphere now that the series is over?
Might as well wait for the HD release at this point.
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>>344556676
>forces her to participate in the AB game and to babysit his clone
>ditches her to bang his waifu and watch his kids die or live happily ever after with his waifu
>doesn't even wonder where the fuck is his shitty clone
He's as bad as Kinzo.
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>>344556909
9th man is the one to the far right who has let go of his leg
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>>344557048
>pre-rendered CGI event
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>>344557048
VLR had better backgrounds.
ZTD had better models.

Honestly, as much shit as people have been giving the animations and models, I thought there were moments when it all came together to look pretty good.
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Everyone is insisting that VLR has better music than 999, can someone post an example of this, because I feel like I'm missing something here.
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>>344557178
it's got some pretty serious competition
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>>344556896
I never really understood this idea. What exactly is more "japanese" about vlr and ztd?
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>>344557136
Anon, I meant the overall tone of the game.
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>>344557305
For a start, they crowbarred in Lagomorph because of the popularity of Monokuma
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>>344557251
The models are fine, the animations are terrible to the point of being hilarious and ruining the mood several times.
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>>344557231
yeah that's what I'm saying, I'd rather have the art with narration over it than VLR's cutscenes

the use of models for the VN parts was fine though
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>>344557305
More superpowers I guess. Also VLR has that Monokuma knock off rabbit.
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>>344556896
>>344556643
>Pretty much this, 999 was the first VN for most people or people just like it because it's the less "japanese" between all the others.
This reminds me, Uchikoshi talked in an interview about why 999 got so popular in the west and not in japan

He said it's because in Japan, there's already a ton of these games (he brought up kamaitachi no yoru and YU-NO as examples) and they have existed for a long time so '999' isn't anything new for the japs.
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>>344557040
Straight up fact that VLR had a better ost than 999.

999 has too much noise going on during tracks like the main theme and quietus
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>>344557286
Is that from another lady innocent?
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>>344556267
oh shit i came
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>ZTD discussion has died down so quickly that people are back to arguing about 999 vs VLR again
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The only thing I'm sad about is that there will be no more black bar generals
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>>344557679
It's no wonder that Akan/Junpei/999fags are always the most obnoxious around
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>>344557842
Akane and Junpei are shit
I enjoyed 999 though
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>>344555190
He was the only character I really liked this time around, I was expecting them to do a little more with him though. I thought he was Kyle at first.
"I don't have memories of outside so I guess I didn't really have a reason to leave" hit me like a brick when I got to that ending. It's actually pretty good reasoning but still sad, especially if you don't know the truth. I thought this kid just threw away his life to give this old dog some company in his last moments before they both starved to death, Q and the robot reveal kind of shit on that a bit but I still think he was a good character, I wish the characters could have been explored more.
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>>344557052
I also remember feeling that they wen't a little too far with the morphogenetic field stuff.
Like they'd gone through so much trouble to make it grounded and then as you say, jumped the shark.

VLR handled it all better because instead of the multiverse stuff being a twist, it's straight up the main mechanic.
The restriction on the shifting is all more or less logical and the plot holes aren't as glaringly obvious as you'd first think.

I do think that VLR had a massive narrative advantage of basically having to conclude nothing.
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>>344557905
why are you doing this shit
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>>344558060
When I played the game on the micro DS resolution, I thought those were bloody chopped hands of everyone.
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>>344558005
I agree with ya, I feel like VLR would be my favorite in the series if it wasn't massive cliffhanger bait, especially considering how ZTD dropped the ball with some VLR plot threads
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>>344558060
LIFE IS SIMPLY UNFAIR ANON
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>>344557523
Quietus was a great Bad End theme, and there was some serious quantity over quality going on with the puzzle themes in VLR.
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>>344557909
I thought Marty McFly Junpei and Tenmyoldy were fun at least

not a fan of the shipping garbage though
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STILL

HOLY FUCK

WHAT AM I EVEN GOING TO DO WITH THIS SHIT
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>>344558380
pirate pc version :^)
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>>344556643
I actually agree with you and think 999 is way over-rated around these parts, but the sprites look a lot better than any of the 3D shit from the other games.
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OFFICIAL UNDISPUTABLE TEAM RANKINGS

God Tier: C TEAM
+Carlos is the only fucking person in the shelter that gets anything done
+Best rooms and best music (the Monty Hall room had the best music in the entire game imo)
+Junpei is hilariously edgy
+Akane snapping and trying/succeeding in murdering Carlos when Jumpy dies is actually out of nowhere and terrifying
+C Team's endless SHIFTing adventure
+That whole scene where they described Back to the Future without ever saying it because lol copyright

-Junpei and Akane bitching at each other
-Akane spouting Wikipedia articles for 15 minutes at a time
-TENMYOUJI STILL ALWAYS PICKS BETRAY

Mid Tier: Q TEAM
+Sean is super cute and actually knows what he's doing
+Eric is great when he isn't going full crazy shotgun rampage
+Triangle is one of the best scenes in the game
-Mira kills everyone in like half the routes and if you just randomly go through fragments it's super easy to find out her twist like an hour in or less
-Apparently the blind and deaf comic book villain with black and purple eyes is not even remotely suspicious to them
------BIOLAB

Shit Tier: D TEAM
+Phi and Sigma are great
+Twins ending is super sad
-Boss Phi is dead for 2/3rds of the game
-Sigma, the sixty-seven year old genius who spent his entire life preparing for this moment, gets both arms and an eye blown off trying to defuse a bomb with five seconds left on the clock
-Diana knowingly causes the apocalypse trying to save a woman who can just SHIFT away
-Diana blows up the shelter pushing a button that says WARNING DO NOT PUSH
-Diana looks retarded in every one of her closeups
-Diana is flat out worse than Luna (RIP ;_;)
-Diana and Sigma's only contribution is getting themselves stuck in the shelter and then banging to create the two most ridiculous looking infants ever rendered in a video game
-Diana smashes the antidote when all three of them are suffering from poison
-Diana in general just fucks everything up every time

Objective
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>>344558450
already did and already beat it
i just thought i might like to have the 3ds so i can have the entire series physically.. and replay it in like 2036 after steam is long dead
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Life is simply unfair. Don't you think?
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>>344552265
Isn't that exactly what it is, though? He just calls it mind hacking.
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>>344558520
my thoughts exactly

I hated that Phi was out of commission so much
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>>344558495
>but the sprites look a lot better than any of the 3D shit from the other games.

sure, bud
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>>344558520
>Sigma fails to recreate Diana
>Creates girl that's better than Diana
Sigma is a genius with AI.
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>>344558352
It's not really shipping when it is canonical.
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>>344558436
>blue eyes

I really hate Carlos fans and ZTD fans, it's clear they just played without even paying attention
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>>344558661
But they do. VLR 3d is shit. ZTD would be fine if it had better animation and Junpei and Akane didn't dye themselves purple, but oh well.
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Anyone got a save 100% save file for the pc version?
My 3DS crashed after I finished the game and I cant access anything
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>>344558520
>-Diana blows up the shelter pushing a button that says WARNING DO NOT PUSH
MINDHACKS
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>>344558520
kys
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>>344558520
D team really was shit.
>Junpei and Carlos find out about SHIFTing
>Put it to better use within 5 minutes than Phi and Sigma who spent a lifetime preparing for this
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this is the police, I've got a lost child here /v/, can any of you tell me where his home is?
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>>344558520
>+Eric is great when he isn't going full crazy shotgun rampage
But Eric is at his best when he's going full crazy shotgun rampage.
And while Carlos slowly became endearing with time, Junpei and Akane just got worse and worse, I really couldn't give less of a shit about them getting together by the end of it.
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>>344558596
>life was...
>simply unfair.
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>>344558520
I think Eric's fucking retardedness really brings down the team

especially after everyone knows Mira's a serial killer, but he's dumb enough to ride off into the sunset with her
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>>344558520
I don't understand how you could stomach Q team.
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>>344558995

>put it to better use
>don't worry! I won't die!
>pic related

I fucking loved C team shenanigans
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>>344559120
Speaking of which, why was everyone ok and cool with her being a serial killer? Why did Eric not give the slightest shit about her killing his mother?
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How do you guys find what to do next?
i'm searching every spot on the flow and team select and can't find shit
those 8 numbers aren't for the door what the fuck Zero
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>>344559007
I don't know that gundam.
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>>344557153
Well yeah, but is that gonna be worth it?

I liked 999 well enough but everyone is hyping it up so much I feel like I need to play it at least once more.

>>344558162
VLR definitely is my favorite, with some major reservations - the giant fucking cliffhanger being one of them.
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>>344559159
Sean carried it for me by being an actually good child character and the only voice of reason in the entire team
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>>344559164
this scene, and following them slowly understand what's going on was pretty thrilling desu
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>>344559261
epilogue files
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>>344558995
it's only a problem if you know the characters and played VLR
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>>344558520
>>344559120
>>344559097
>Eric going on his stupid shotgun rampage in the teleporter room
>Less than a foot away from Sigma, repeatedly lowers the gun and leaves himself open to any sort of tackle or suckerpunch Sigma could've pulled
>Sigma just fucking stands there like the complete retard he is
Fuck Eric and fuck D team.
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>>344559159
Sean was just that good.
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>>344559261
>Eric's mother was the woman on the snail path
holy fuck how did i not make that connection

but as for your original point, idk i asked the same thing. By the end of the game, they all know she's a serial killer and let her go
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>>344559269
Make sure you have seen all of the execution scenes.

Double check to see if there are any exclamation marks anywhere.

Make sure you've tried making all choices.
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>>344559269
Where are you at, have you seen the door of truth? Which teams?
The hint seen by Q-team is what you use as D-team. Yes, the date.
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>>344559261
he is a pussywhipped faggot like Junpei
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>>344559269
I was stuck for a while because I thought I had spared every team in the initial vote since I got all the shower scenes but apparently I never really had.

There was also one point where I needed to go back to that one Q fragment that doesn't show up in the flow map right away and wasn't marked as New either.
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>>344559164
Obviously dropping all the plot threads that VLR built up is a massive kick in the teeth.
But damn I enjoyed this wild ride.
The journey was truly better than the destination.
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VLR had both the best and worst characters, I guess it depends on which you think outweighs the other.
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>>344559313
I mean before the epilogue files. All of the other characters don't seem to give a shit either.
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>>344559368
I think the entire point of the game is to try and go without killing anyone, and ending their conflicts "peacefully"
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>>344559462
So was Sigma in ZTD, they fucked up his character pretty badly desu
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>>344559585
They were busy dealing with mindhacker.
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>>344558995
Now that I think about it, I vaguely remember Sigma saying he lost the ability to shift at some point.

I don't even when or why but I remember thinking that's odd.

Am I just going crazy or did this actually happen?
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>>344559581
sounds like a tough DECISION
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>>344559581
yeah, and it helped that Sigma and Phi had great chemistry as protags

I really liked Tenmyoji and K too, and Dio was a love-to-hate character

everyone else, though...
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I really wish Sigma and Phi would have shifted meaningfully even once.

It's like the only reason they needed to be able to shift was to show up in the first place and for the true end.
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>>344559462
At least Akane cares enough about Junpei to have a berserker rampage trigger switch whenever he dies.
Mira doesn't give a shit about anything until her epilogue.
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>>344559305
>X-Passes from other timelines... are not applicable.

Genuinely the most unnerving moment in the game
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>>344559261

Because the writing for Q team is absolute fucking garbage.

Fuck, they practically ruined the game for me.
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>>344557679
Everyone knows that VLR is the best game and Sigma the best character of the franchise, just saying.
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>>344559681
It happened in one of his death scenes. It never comes up again or is explained.
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>>344559681
it's the timeline where Mira kills everyone, I think it was to imply that was another Sigma that got forcepushed into that body by the Sigma of that timeline shifting
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>>344559756
>Dio was a love-to-hate character
No he wasn't. You find out his plans way too early and he's too much of a transparent prick besides, it's just that every other character is a complete retard that never does anything about him until it's too late.
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>>344559581
VLR also had both the best and worst moments in the franchise imo, for every Luna ending and K ending there was a fucking Clover ending
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>>344559757
I really wish phi showed up for more than 2 minutes
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>>344559951
Of all the people that could have been the Snake, I did not expect it to be Phi.
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>>344559841
that's just, like, your opinion, man
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>>344559841
>VLR Sigma over VLR Phi
W A C K
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>>344559805
>>344559305
>>344559164
Yeah, that series of events was thrilling enough to redeem the game for me. Junpei being a smug tricky fuck like in 999's climax again had me thinking C-team was finally gonna turn the tables on Zero and seeing them run right into that brick wall with the X-passes was a real "oh shit" moment.
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