so I just finished the first game, and I started playing LoG2, this game is pretty great, what do you think about it?
It's shit.
Uh oh, EO babbies will get mad at you now
>>344532632
It's fucking amazing. Never had the energy to finish the first one but the Grimrock 2 hooked me like crack.
>>344532632
Amazing game. Altho it could have used better race/class balance
Like, if you don't bring a minotaur barbarian with headhunter and an alchemist in your party, you're pretty much gimping yourself
>>344532728
they definitely improved a lot from the first game
many enemies in 2 gets special attacks, leaping attacks, the skeleton warriors in the first game could be easily circle strafed, the skeleton of 2 I posted can quickly hit you even if you're on his right side
Great games, wish they had a third.
I've been thinking about getting the first game for a while now but the puzzles intimidate me. How difficult are they really? Because I'm fucking dumb.
>>344533041
There's huge databases for two games you can google for if you get REALLY stuck in a puzzle or room, so it's not all that bad if you just wanna give up and keep progressing
Pretty much the same premise as the second game, tho. You're NOT gonna find all of the secrets in your first playthrough unless you're a walkthrough baby
>>344532839
As much as I like the minotaur barbarian I have, I miss having a human warrior class type, the dexterity penalty of minotaurs can be annoying.
It's a fantastic game that heralds back to the era of uncasualized videogames that not enough people have played.
Seriously, the riddles, the puzzles, the secrets, I loved everything. Better yet, it was what a true sequel should be - an improvement in every sense from it's predecessor in both size and depth. Bought on-launch, and it didn't disappoint in the slightest. Full mod support too.
Damn shame they're doing something else instead of LoG III, there's literally nothing else in the present market like it.
>>344533041
Honestly I like the first one more than the sequel, but both are great games.
I only used a guide for two parts in the first game, doesn't really ruin the game, especially if you are stuck on it.
Definitely get it if on sale.
>>344533041
The puzzles aren't that cryptic, a lot of the puzzles of Grimrock games are about watching out for the walls, seeing if there's a brick with a button on it. Many things are given to you via notes, written hints on the wall and more.
General reminder that if you don't use Old-School mode, you're a massive faggot.
>>344532632
> They made the crabs EVEN HARDER.
The absolute madmen. Good call.
>>344533041
The first one is flat-out not as good as the second in every sense. Still a very good game nonetheless.
>>344533464
That's more in the first Grimrock. There's still some of those in the second, but there's a lot more emphasis in puzzles, riddles, and large-scale (e.g. multi-map) puzzles (e.g. the meteor).
I really like the games, I think the combat needs a little work. I think it should be easier to attack, not easier combat. There are times where I feel like I'm just trying to mash through my attacks because there's no better way to do it. And it just feels really clunky to do with a mouse; but I'm not really sure how to fix it though.
If they make a 3rd game, I'd buy it.
I think if they made a game like LoG 1-2 but in a different setting (sci-fi or something) that would be awesome.
>>344532632
its one playtrough game, once you know the secret its unreplayable. Even the ending suggest that.
Its kinda nice and sad when you finish it because no game will like this anymore
>>344533971
True, but you can still try different parties setups. Also the dungeon editor is pretty good plus custom dungeons that might be good.
How do you get into these games?
>>344534204
Start playing. It will come.
>>344534204
play them
I stopped at the Library in the castle with the snakemen rapists.
I thought my party was well leveled and geared at that point. I was wrong. Fuck that part.
It's a really great sequel, seems to improve on LoG1 on pretty much every way. Especially the combat is a lot more interesting. I've yet to actually finish the game though because it's pretty damn tough at times. LoG is one of the best series that have come out recently and I don't really have anything bad to say about it.
>>344534310
these faggots, the game up to this point hasn't stumped me this hard. It's been 2 years since, I think I'll just start a new playthrough or something.
>>344534204
sure, the older DOS games in that genre may be harder to get into, but Legend of Grimrock is polished perfectly.
super easy to get into and very rewarding.
get the games as soon as you can afford them
>>344534591
agreed.LoG3 when?
>>344534646Stop fucking reminding me anon, fucking god damnit.
I thought it was amazing, and a pretty great improvement on all fronts compared to 1. Exploration felt pretty good since it had a lot of variety. Bosses also made it a bit more interesting.
Minotaur + Bane + Berserker potion is OP as fuck, though.
Is there something like this, but with vendors? I like getting better loot with money.
Something like Etrian Odyssey. I guess, but for PC
>that secret room with all the mimics
I think the devs behind the games surpassed Remedy as the best finnish developers
>>344532726
EO babby here, Grimrock 2 is awesome
>>344534310
FYI, if you have issues with an area come back later. It's obvious, but this game isn't linear and there's plenty of other places you can go instead.
>>344534873
seconding
>>344534873
wizardry 8?
>>344532632
I liked both these games, it really pulled me in.
>>344533319
Can sort of make up for it. I always give them enough armor to wear heavy without penalties, max heavy weapons, at least one point on critical so you can use Bane's special, then dump a few points into accuracy so they stop fucking missing
>>344534910
>delve around in dungeon
>retrieve key item
>suddenly a lot of walls slide open
>fucking swarm of fire elementals
>>344534693
If Almost Human doesn't have enough good ideas for a third game right now I think that it's better that they work on something else. LoG2 is so damn good because all the new ideas and gameplay changes actually work and make sense instead of just sticking to doing more of the same or watering down the previous title. This kind of approach is really rare these days, initially I couldn't even believe how everything was just so much... better in 2. But yeah I hope that they'll make a third game eventually too, or at least some other game in the same style.
>>344535041
If I remember correctly I got all the gems that you need to go into the castle, I'm pretty sure I've been everywhere there is and I explored shit loads.
There was the Pyramid, the spooky graveyard, the underground mine and the poison forest swamp place.
Is there any other place to go other than the castle?
>>344535058
This. Wizardry 8 is quite literally a series of dungeons with the occasional vendor or NPC.
>>344535189
> Those fire elementals where the Rat King was.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.
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Installing it as we speak. I played it for like 20 minutes when it first came out, then I got into some other game and abandoned it.
What are some good builds/strategies, and general tips as to not get stuck and quit out of frustration?
>>344532632
Not as good as 1. The open island just didn't have the same great atmosphere as the claustrophobic dungeons in the predecessor, where you were constantly climbing down deeper and deeper. Mechanically it's better, with more of pretty much everything, but there's also more bullshit. Firearms turned out to be shit, I got walled in by an air elemental with no way of killing it - as it only takes damage from 1 spell and 1 weapon in the entire game - and had to reload an earlier save, you're arbitrarily not allowed to fight underwater until you find one of the 2-3 tridents in the game, and the world map just meant a ton more backtracking.
It's amazing how much better the sequel is. I hope they make a third sequel or a perhaps a completely new IP.
>>344535376
create your own characters, I played the first game with the default option and I felt a bit of regret for not customizing the party for min-max effects, for example instectoid race has a lot of willpower and they make great magic users for so, Lizardman have a dexterity bonus so they make great rogues, minotaurs make great barbarians due to theior strength bonus and headhunter trait
So we've got no idea what the devs are working on now? It's been a while since this came out.
>>344535263
FYI, don't just get enough gems to go into the castle. Get all the power gems because that unlocks a final dungeon and a superfinal boss. Also indicates that you've explored most everything.
If memory serves, if by 'underground mine' you're referring to the area near where the Rat King is that's filled with spiders and death, and you covered the connecting areas (catacombs, zombieworld with gigantic deathmachines roaming around, sewers/hamlet, the archives/lexiconary/ruins, etc.), I think that's it. There should be a bunch of puzzles that you can still do for loot, e.g. the meteor puzzle, but really, just git gud.
I had a shitty party because I brought along a farmer in a full party who was dead weight for the entire game. Ratling rogue and alchemist made up for it though, even though the only people who did damage were my rogue and my mage. Still had zero issue in Castle Nex, and the boss fight was a pushover. Now, the supersekrit final boss is fuckimpossible and took me months of on-off trying to beat.
>>344535728
> OH NO YOU CAN DIE IF YOU MISPLAY.
Also there's a hub. Not so much backtracking.
So what are the best mods?
>>344532632
It's great
>haven't beat the game and this thread makes me want to reinstall
>fucking hate the boring beach and forest areas and lose the desire to
>>344534873
Dungeon Master 2, you can even haggle with the jews.
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>>344534873
Hopefully Bard's Tale IV. I'm gonna be upset if this isn't as good as Grimrock.
>>344534873
new ones - MMX which is decent enough
ton of old similar games wizardry, might and magic etc.
>>344535376
Magic is kind be annoying at first.
Throwing weapons are GOAT, they just require a bit of micromanagement.
Use a guide if you are stuck for more than an hour.
>finish exploring the crystal mines
>return to the hamlet of Stormbreach
>mfw
should an assassination rogue get light armor proficency?
>>344537124
No, just get full rogue set and eventually those gauntlets that raise your str and dex (think you find them in some long dungeon within the cemetery)
>>344532632
I think it's the best game among those of the "RPG Renaissance".
It has the best Inventory Management of all things.
>>344533817
>I really like the games, I think the combat needs a little work. I think it should be easier to attack, not easier combat. There are times where I feel like I'm just trying to mash through my attacks because there's no better way to do it. And it just feels really clunky to do with a mouse; but I'm not really sure how to fix it though.
It sounds lame, but I think that melee attacks should be automatic. The player should focus on when and if using special attacks.
>>344537025
I love the new wall spell. Great for fighting those annoying 2+ groups or just retreating
>>344534873
Wait for Cleveland Mark Blakemore to release Grimoire :^)Of course you may also play enormous amount of blobbers from 80's and 90's - I'd suggest going through Wizardry 6-7-8 with save imports, Might and Magic(I like 3, 4 and 5 the most but majority of people love 6), and if you want games with similar combat to grimrock - Dungeon Master, Lands of Lore and Eye of the Beholder
>>344535838
On the front row I had a magic-knight bug man and barbarian lizardman. In the back row I had a human farmer female that used magic and a headhunter minotaur that specialized in throwing. By far the biggest asset to the team was the Minotaur until I managed to feed the farmer enough to dwarf the rest in levels.
Was there any real benefit to using guns? The fixed damage wasn't very good for most of the game, and the cannon basically required stripping my gunner if I didnt want him to be overencumbered
>>344537184
also I guess people don't exactly go dagger rogue in late/endgame since the critical skill maxed allows you to backstab with any weapon, right?
>>344537436
Firearms are shit, even if you go alchemist with the no jamming perk. Missile and throwing weapons are way better based solely on the fact you can retrieve your ammo after shooting and that they will NEVER malfunction
>>344532632
I thought the first one was better. 2's split up level design made the game weaker as the game world was split into many smaller areas with little interplay rather than the big complex floors of the first game, and balancing the whole game for being able to access several different areas at any one time meant the early game was difficult and the late game was far too easy.
Also, the final boss and true final boss of 2 were both complete garbage compared to the final boss of 1.
>>344537464
It depends on the stat focus of your rogue. If you go dex, most of the good weapons you find based on that stat will be classed as daggers anyway, so that's what you're gonna be using. The "any weapon" deal would be for str focused characters wielding light weapons
>>344537436
I heard they were shit, so I just made my chemist a thrower, the str is nice for carrying purposes anyway
>>344533041
The puzzles are mostly good but both games have several that go full retard in either how esoteric they are or how misleading they are.
The pyramid entrance in 2 is a good example of the latter.
>>344537601
my rogue has like 18str 19 dex
>>344537614
>I just made my chemist a thrower
Great move, anon
>simultaneous two hand throw perk at maxed throwing
>poison bomb and freeze bomb combo
>mfw one my shurikens is missing and I can fucking find it
>>344538072
can't*
Are there any good blobbers for android? I want something to play on the go. The Quest looks cool but no android port :(
>>344537572
>Also, the final boss and true final boss of 2 were both complete garbage compared to the final boss of 1.
I'll agree with this I guess. I didn't like the cube very much, but the real final boss of 2 is poorly made enough that you're far better off just trying to faceroll it instead of actually trying to fight it.
>>344538072
>throw shuriken at a flying beast in crystal mines
>fucker backs up and it falls into the void
>manage to find it later on the bottom floor
>>344538072
this also triggers my autism so bad
>trying to get best ending
>left the staff at the bottom of crystal mines because I had better ones at that point
>>344538853
How do you get the best ending?
GRIMROCK 3 WHEN
>>344536062
this
and are there good custom maps?
>>344539358
There's 4 more shiny gems than you need to make the 4 elemental essences. Enough spares to make a fifth one. Huge spoilers aheadWhen you place the 4 essences and open up the castle Nex gates, go through it, kill the final boss, but instead of going through to the ending, backtrack and get out. The gem it drops plus the other 3 you can find in the pyramid, desert and other secret areas will craft a fifth essenceYou do this in a temple you can enter by standing in the center of the castle courtyard, where you place the 4 essences, and having any character cast a spell using the central rune in the grid
I heard it was great so I tried it but its just way too slow paced for me. I find searching walls and such for tiny hidden buttons to be terribly tedious and the odd "you can only move on squares" movement felt very unnatural. I thought it was going to be more like the Might and Magic series but it seems like its almost a completely different genre.
>>344532632
I loved the first one but the second one is shit.
>>344539732
The might and magic series was tile based for more than half the franchise though...
How does Grimrock compare to Stonekeep? I loved that game as a kid. It also had a lot of comical characters like Wahooka and the Fairy Players for levity. Does Grimrock have anything like that?
>>344539732
the tile based system makes sense because it's supposed to be a tabletop like experience
>>344540106
Grimrock is very story light and the little bits of story are told through the environment
>>344539580
a-anyone?
>>344535101
>get to Barren desert, kill the two giant fuckers and begin clearing the mummies out
>leprechaun appears
>mino barbarian with headhunter, 8 skulls, been force feeding him str potions that I keep making on my alchemist every time he shits out a crystal flower
>wind up Bane's special, swing
>fucker insta poofs
>>344542290
I think there's a good Dungeon Master remake
>yfw
>>344543094
look at all that experience
>>344543209
>>344543094
Just spam bombs lmao
>>344543094
That fight was surprisingly easy. The trickiest part was staying away from the big golems or whatever they were. There were only a few of them and they could fuck you up if you got caught between them and a pack of mummies.
Anyone else pissed that only Fire magic has a third level damage spell?
>>344543295
No because I didn't fall for the non fire magic meme.
>>344532632
Easy 10/10 game that trumps the first in every conceivable way.
>>344543295
I was fine with that since other schools had their own utility spells, like Invisibility for Lightning and Dispel for Water. Earth Magic, however, got fucked again; shit damage, useless against 50+% of the enemies, and no unique spell.
>>344545206
Name one game with good earth magic
>>344545206
>Earth Magic, however, got fucked again
Why are most enemies in most games immune to poison?
And why is earth magic never about physical damage? Poison is nature magic. Earth magic should be about big rocks, earthquakes and gravity.
Grimrock 2 was really fucking good. My only qualm with it is not actually a complaint at all, but just that sometimes the puzzles were really god damned hard. Mostly the open-world puzzles. There's a TON of loot that you could easily miss.
I liked the "gambling" you had to do on which weapon forcefields to unlock.
Felt really good finally beating the "true" boss.
I think my biggest complaint is that there just isn't any incentive to play again, since I've seen it all.
>>344545624
I can't and that's the problem. Is it so hard to have a viable magic class where you hurl boulders, create quicksand/mud, encase your body/fists with rock, and whatnot?
>The cube secret
but what does it mean
>>344535954
>> OH NO YOU CAN DIE IF YOU MISPLAY.
Misplay? With the air elemental? I was in the spike maze, moved to a safe square to fight it, and realized only then that it was unkillable. There's no other enemy in the game that works that way, and there's no way of knowing that's how it works before you've fought it once. It's just bad design, and the fact that you're defending it makes me question everything you have to say.
I loved the first, still greatly enjoyed the second, and I'm absolutely looking forward to the sequel. But that doesn't magically fix the problems that are there.
>>344545934
I liked creating challenge runs for myself, like solo runs.
>solo insectoid fighter with dual wielding and as much +action speed as possible
It was surprisingly fun and effective.
>>344545964
D:OS is probably the closes to decent earth magic, from what I remember.
Rock drops, covering the ground in oil, that sort of stuff.
Oil could then be ignited. That was fun.
>>344545624
Dragon's Dogma's Seism spell is pretty good.
>>344545624
Ragnarok Online, heavens drive is alright
>>344546221
>I liked creating challenge runs for myself, like solo runs.
I've never really been into this, in any game. I know it's something some people can do to make a game have more replay value for them, but it never did much for me.
I need new maps, new content, etc.
LoG is underrated as fuck. Pretty happy we have a thread on these games.
>>344546221
A solo run as a ratman alchemist in LOG2 is pretty good.
You can turn him into a fucking beast. All those permanent stat boosting potions along with that mutation trait. He'll become a demigod.
>>344546221
I did this with an alchemist who chugged Bear Potions and chucked bombs to get by.
>>344543295
Also there is no scroll in the game that tells you how to cast Frost bolt. Imagine going for Ice magic and only having one damage spell.
Must've been an oversight by the devs.
>>344532839
Minotaurs were best at pretty much everything, especially as rangers.
Alchemy needs to be nerfed in LoG3 but I kind of don't want them to do it. Infinite stat potions was pretty great.
>>344546713
I went human alchemist with throwing, but thinking about Rat lately, a Ratman missile alchie wouldn't be bad at all. Ratman with endurance and their natural higher carrying capacity, that would be nice
>>344532839
>>344546921
Minotaurs are the worst race in 2. However a Throwing Weapon Minotaur Rogue in 1 was god tier.
>>344546904
Who the fuck needs scrolls for magic? Just guess the combinations.
>>344546921
>Alchemy needs to be nerfed in LoG3 but I kind of don't want them to do it. Infinite stat potions was pretty great.
I just got this and realized what it can do, yeah sounds broken to keep making stat boosters I suppose
>>344547141
Sure, but why is that the only spell they don't tell you about (besides balance). It's gotta be a bug.
>>344545624
Legend of Legaia
>mfw getting hit by megaton press for the first time
>>344532632
LoG2 is one of my fav games of all time now, and I'm very picky.
>>344546921
>Infinite stat potions was pretty great.
How did you get infinite? I assume you're being hyperbolic and just talking about the farmer ability to grow them. Even with that +1 to a stat doesn't really do much, and you have 4 characters. I don't think it needs to be nerfed.
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>>344545624
>implosion for ants
>>344533362
We've seen pics from his PC. He seems to be making something with a new modified engine but it does SEEM to play the same. Its just gonna be weebland now as ninjas and a diff premise
>>344532632
Fuck you, first one had an amazing atmosphere and felt like a real maze in a strange setting
Second one is bland fantasy. Still great gameplay though
>>344547540
Alchemist passive ability creates herbs as you walk around, this includes the one necessary to create the +stat potions.
>>344533362
>>344547659
Links to any of this? I haven't heard of the devs working on a new game.
>>344547540
It's infinite because you replicate crystal flowers and other herbs infinitely. It's not fast, never said it was fast. But not only can they dupe potions, they make better mages than any of the mage classes.
A team of three alchemists can all feed their stat potions into a single guy, preferably a farmer, to make a super powered man. Might try that sometime. An eating contest run.
>>344532632
I couldn't finish it because I'm terrified of spiders.
>>344546995
>Minotaurs are the worst race in 2
how
their bonuses are great
>>344537109
What's wrong, big rat balled you hard?
>>344548132
Didn't even spot it the first time and half my party was suddenly dead
And that fucking leprechaun...
>>344547835
>>344548004
yeah i meant the alchemist ability, not the farmer
still don't think it's overpowered, unless you want to spend ages walking about aimlessly
Holy shit a grimrock thread.
Post hubs.
>>344545624
Sacrifice
>>344548045
Is there a mod to get rid of spiders
>>344548487
yes, actually, though i dont know why you'd use it
man up
>playing the games with 3D glasses
worth the headaches
>>344548623
>yes, actually
thanks I'll look it up
I'm not that into DM style games but Grimrock 2 was fantastic. Even despite the combat system there was enough interesting map design, puzzles, secrets and exploration to make it a fun adventure.
It's a damn shame it was such a flop.
What are the devs up to now? Grimrock 3?
Truly intelligent puzzles that didn't treat the player like an inbred chimp. Videogames have truly fallen far.
>>344548851
was it a flop?
>>344548239
It's that theoretically the alchemist has infinite potential that can dwarf almost every class other than farmer and barbarian. Perhaps the best solution is to buff magic classes and rangers. A wizards +2 willpower doesn't mean much when an alchemist will have access to stat boosts every hour or two with no limit.
Also who here is going to skip adding a ranger to their party in Grimrock 3? I've been disappointed by them for two games now.
>>344548851
>it was such a flop.
It was? The game is easily in my favorite games of whatever year it came out.
Personally I like that combat style and I'm not bothered by the magic casting system although it is hell to have more than one spellcaster in combat, so I'm biaised, but the game is just really solid- great level design, puzzles, atmosphere, and really solid graphic style. The game is also really smooth, it runs perfectly (for me anyway) and that's more than lots of game can say now.
>>344532632
I think it's an amazing game
It's really sad that the developers never delivered on their modding tools promise, the community died way too soon because they never released them
>>344548051
They aren't, humans are the worst race since all they get is a bonus to exp gained and one extra skillpoint (which is sort of useful if you want to play with a farmer)
The stats and traits the other races get are much better, and on top of that ratlings, lizards and insectoids get bonus stats from eating specific foods
>>344548851
I heard it sold more than the original.
However, it doesn't help that the game had ZERO marketing or hype behind it. I wasn't the release date revealed like 3 weeks before it launched?
Either way, it was a great game. My personal GOTY 2014, at least.
>>344535323
>You don't have fire shield.
They do hurt like a bitch.
I made this back when it still had a community, hope it serves you well if you get stuck
Cometary is suppose to be Cemetery
>>344535323
>>344549419
>he couldn't melee and one shot them a split second before they exploded and get crazy xp
And here's a chart depicting how many steps each plant needs to grow
>>344549160
>>344549239
>>344549393
According to steamdb:
Grimrock 2
255,708 ± 12,828 owners
Grimrock
937,147 ± 24,532 owners
I guess it sold well overall (especially for an old-school RPG), but compared to the previous game it kind of was a flop.
>>344549670
>that cemetery puzzle
Please tell me I'm not the only one who had to start drawing out paths
>>344549987
it's probably the hardest puzzle in the game
>>344549693
>what's using your wizard to cast dispel
A dex character with the ethereal dagger can also pull an one shot pretty easily
>>344533817
Just use a mapped controller system, like XPadder or the Steam controller. With the latter, you can map each attack (including magic combinations) to a region of one of the touch pads (or both, do whatever you want with it really). It works great for so many other games, too. It's worth the $30 or $40.
>>344549913
Fucking gorgon archers.
>wind elementals can only be damaged with dispel or the ethereal dagger
Why?
>>344549846
Goddamn.
I wonder how it would look if that factored in Gog sales? I'd imagine that the type of crowd this game would appeal to would also be the samme type of crowd to prefer that over steam.
>>344549913
Did you just walk into the fire?
>>344550225
>[howling intensifies]
>>344549913
bodied
>>344550063
Really? I personally had the most trouble figuring out the 3 switches that you had to pull in a certain order to open a door in the castle, but that might be because I'm a fucking dunce
>Got stuck for half an hour on the X marks the spot puzzle
Please tell me I'm not the only retard here. I was looking for an X and didn't think of making one with dropped items since it was very early on the game and I didn't know if I could take those items back or if I'd lose them.
>>344550225
the answer is always: because dungeon master did it
>>344532632
Are there any other dungeon crawlers like grimrock?
The japanese ones all seem to be only about combat.
i was damn far into the first one then my brother deleted the game off the computer when he was making space on the hard drive
really dug it too. maybe i'll go back soon but i'm still kinda reluctant to retread all that ground.
>>344532632
I can't stand it.
It's so unsettling to dungeon crawl in first person and I'm a fuckin pussy
>>344550278
no, he let go of his fire spell as he walked into the teleporter expecting to be teleported, instead the snake moved up and made it go off in his face
>>344550517
I'll give it another try - without spiders installed
The mod turns spiders into skeletons
>>344550237
Their twitter and developer blog hasn't been active for a year, typing their company name in Google fails to bring up their website, and their website and forum have had downtime recently without an update, just the server going down, their game failed to win that mobile competition they were hyped about, and a january post by the developer said "the team isnt working on a project", however "he is working on an engine". This separation of team and the actual forum admin, and that they aren't working on a project after the iPhone port, means they probably suffered from the bad Grimrock 2 sales.
This is just me reading clues though, hopefully they announce something this year, but they've been silent for months, and officially silent for over a year.
>>344550639
Will you really feel safer knowing that you're fighting skeletons that are hiding spiders?
>>344550406
Everyone gets stuck for hours on stupid puzzles in these games. That, and eventually realizing how much of an idiot you were when you finally get it is like half the fun.
>>344550813
That's just awful. No wonder nobody makes good videogames anymore.
>>344550406
I found all of the puzzles in Grimrock 1 to be PERFECTLY tuned.
They were exactly hard enough as to not be boring and obvious, and to still provide satisfaction when solved, and exactly easy enough as to not get stuck on them and get mad.
>>344550639
skeleton spiders?
>>344550820
yes
>>344551003
skeletons thankfully have zero bones in them, but if they did, I would shit my pants
>>344550225
They can also be telefragged
>>344550813
>One of the freshest, best games of the last few years
>Critically praised by literally fucking everyone
>Somehow the company goes bankrupt and stops making things
>Meanwhile, Fallout 4 made enough to buy a small country, and we're getting more "cinematic" games every year.
I hate video games.
>>344550901
>>344551235
I never said the company is going bankrupt, but it does seem they scaled down drastically, to the point where only this one guy is active.
If you have a Twitter account, look up Petri Häkkinen/@petrih3 and ask him how the company is doing and when we can expect a new game, and what it would be like.
Apparently his Windows started self updating to version 10 when he went to get a coffee and wasn't there to cancel it and now he is mad about it.
>>344551358
Windows 10
Not even once
>>344550813
We don't know how much it sold on GoG.
Also I think it's normal for developers to go silent after they've done a game, they don't want to spoil whatever they're doing.
Games only get hinted at and talked by devs when they're well into development. Rockstar is not talking about GTA VI, what setting it will be and such, for example.
>>344550901
I would have agreed a few years ago but that's not true anymore, at least if you like crpgs it's a great time to be alive.
Tons of good stuff released or in development from isometric open world to first person dungeon crawl.
>>344551358
>but it does seem they scaled down drastically, to the point where only this one guy is active
Weren't the games made by only four people, anyway?
>>344551358
I'm checking him out now, I see a lot of tweets about electronics and lab equipment, and some vague mentions of meetings and "unannounced game project", alongside talk of not working and vacation.
So, safe to assume no new game coming any time soon.
>>344551512
most of them sucked ass.
Grimrock 2, Div OS and oddly enough Siege of Dragonspear were the only new wave rpgs worth playing
>>344551642
>worth playing
Every single one of them was worth playing.
None of the notable neo-cRPGs was too bad, they were all average and above.
Its a great time to be an RPG fan, and a lot of old genres and settings are getting revived.
more like legend of follow a guide to win amirite
>>344551973
This. Even Wasteland 2, which was objectively the weakest of all the neo-CRPGs, was at least playable and decent.
![large[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lEqjnwd.jpg "large[1].jpg")
>>344551623
This exists. Must be from their new project.
>>344542554
Would also like to know. I really liked the scary atmosphere of some parts and even enjoyed the jumpscares.
Is there a mod which features this?
>>344552363
>slug
Why does RPGcodex hate Grimrock 2?
>>344552891
Because its different and nerds hate change.
>>344552891
RPGCodex hates everything that's popular. They are the RPG hipsters, basically.
>>344552891
They do? Why?
>>344552253
Casuals not welcome
LoG3 better reimplement the unarmed skill.
>>344532632
>playing the first at 2 in the morning
>hear the sounds of spiders on all sides
>dungeon starts vibrating violently
Not gonna lie, I almost cried
>>344532632
>buy LoG
>love it
>buy LoG2 at release as well
>play LoG2
>love it even more
>all that improvement I didn't even expect or think possible
>the fucking size and scope
>didn't even get to the pyramid and had to use a guide a few times
>didn't fight the ultimate boss
>finish with just the battle on the top of the tower (which was fucking cool)
>feel satisfied
>look into steam
>35hours total
fuck I thought it was much less
and I got that shit for 20bucks or whatever was the release price
can't wait for their next game
>>344553057
Grimrock 2 is less popular than Grimrock 1.
Much, much less popular than Pillars of Eternity, which RPG Codex loves.
>>344550221
>You will never haterape them
>>344553386
>playing the first at night
>the first door you open
>a skeleton instantly attacks you from the other side
>its the first skeleton
>the first dangerous looking enemy
>full armor, big ass shield, long spear
Shock to the system, wake up call, etc.
>>344553458
>Pillars of Eternity, which RPG Codex loves
Man I love when I know that I'm being baited.
>>344553458
>Pillars of Eternity, which RPG Codex loves.
>>344553645
>>344553648
I only go to that place like twice a month, and I am left with the impression that its generally liked.
Did I miss something?
>>344551358
>Apparently his Windows started self updating to version 10 when he went to get a coffee and wasn't there to cancel it and now he is mad about it.
Was he the real life inspiration for the creation of Homer Simpson?
Has there ever been a mod that turns LoG into a turn-based game? That's my only and my biggest gripe with it. I spent way too much time looking at the bottom left, drawing spells, while I'm maneuvering around an enemy. It's a pity, actually, because both games are really beautiful, as a player you kind of miss a surprisingly huge amount of that though.
>>344553878
They loath that game with a passion and think it's the Call of Duty equivalent of RPGs. They wanted their BG3 with shitty rolling for stats during character creation, kiting enemies around your group, buffing a shitton of buffs before each fight, and the utterly generic and bland D&D setting and mechanics.
They didn't get that, so they've been throwing a hissy fit for the last year and a half.
are they making a sequel?
>>344554121
But dancing around clunky rooms is 90% of the gameplay, and you want to remove it?
>>344549846
They said they would have made profit with LoG 1 selling tenth of what it did.
Unless they went absolutely nuts it would have been impossible to go bankrupt LoG 2 having decent sales for a niche game + the massive buffer from the original.
>>344554687
Also I read somewhere that on GoG, Grimrock 2 was cheaper than on Steam, so there you have it.
>>344554687
I mean, both games have been in bundles, sure, but they still got a lot of sales. I can't imagine that it wasn't profitable for them. Maybe not a huge success, which is a pity, but quite probably profitable.
Could you guys recommend some good dungeon crawlrs for Android from party POV? Etrian Odyssey looks fun but I don't know about emulation.
This isn't really the right thread I suppose but I figure a LoG thread will have people that play EO in it.
I'm playing EO4 as my first one and have decided around level 20ish that I want to change my sniper out for a nightseeker because the sniper binds don't seem to apply very reliably at all.
What is the proper way to quickly catch a character up in XP or am I screwed or retarded or both?
Also does level difference between the character and enemy affect stat ailment application (both chance and duration)?
Thanks m8s
>>344551525
Four people programmed and did art. However, a company needs support from the business side of things.
>>344551642
Those were the cream of the crop but even the middle-tier ones like Wasteland 2 blow most modern trash out of the water. Even Pillars of Eternity was entertaining enough to play through oncebefore they nerfed casters. I swear to Christ it's the biggest reason why I won't play the expac
>>344556563
>jrpg
fucking dropped
OT: Would it be possible to play SMT titles, the old ones, in Japanese without knowing Japanese?
I want to try them, they look comfy as fuck with the old graphics and that artstyle.
Or is there any way of getting English into them?
>>344556706
sure, but if they're working on a new engine, it means they have the funds to go on
>tfw played it already and i don't replay games
some things you just can't get back in life.
>>344532632
I really liked the game Until I did to much dicking around and ran out of food. Running out of food makes the game very very tedious so I just gave up on it. Hunger mechanic can ruin the game if you take to much time.
I really hope there will be a sequel, or a new RPG by these devs.
In the meantime I'm looking forward to Bard's Tale 4 and Underworld Ascension. Japanese style dungeon crawlers are also fine but puzzle and exploration focus is the most fun for me, and LoG nailed that.
>>344558825
turtles in the beach area respawn I'm loaded with food right now
when you get to the places with area, if you click on the fishes you can grab them as food
>>344559125
**places with water
>>344532632
its decent, a solid 6/10
but sadly lack of balance, repetitive combat, pixel hunting puzzles and archaic interface keep it from being a game i can reccomend
hope they make a third one
>>344559125
ah I was under the impression that once you exhaust them they are gone for good. May have to go back and finish it.
>>344558825
That's strange because both games are pretty generous with food. I always end up hoarding so much my characters can't even carry it.
By the way, if you guys want a clunky, but still surprisingly interesting, alternative to Grimrock 2, there's a game on Steam called Fall of the Dungeon Guardians which I thought was just a cheap knockoff (and it is in some ways), but has pseudo-turn-based (Realtime w/ Pause) combat and actual MMO-style hotbars for each party's skills as well as MMO stye tank/DPS/healer classes, with Grimrock-style puzzles and shit that are actually not bad.
I know, I sound like I'm shilling it, but I got it for cheap and didn't hate it.
>>344559443
The first levels of the first game made me starve a lot, until I got to level 6 with the respawning snails.
>>344559654
>MMO style hotbars
>MMO style
>MMO
Where's that fuckass slime room in grimrock 1 again? You know the one.
I started anew and am already in floor 6, but I know I found the slime room somewhere above that on my last playthrough.
>>344559654
>Steam trailer
Wow, that is really just Grimrock.
>>344559443
I think I did a lot of resting and at points I had such a full inventory I dropped food on the ground to free space.
>>344559878
I didn't say it was a great game, the combat is probably the least interesting part of it, and it's actually really easy.
But it's got puzzles, so if you like figuring them out, it'll keep you busy.
>>344552891
>>344553154
It's just the blobber combat autists and that one autistic weeaboo that only like wiz 1-5 and its clones that hates it.
>>344560131
Like I said, it looked like a cheap knockoff, and it kinda is.
Still, worth a torrent.
>>344559654
recommending games isn't shilling.
Not a fan of the hotbar/MMO stuff you describe but if the puzzles and map design is good why not. I really miss demos for games like this.
>Play with any races
>Since you can put in custom portraits they can all be human or elf
Thats how you do it. None of this insect nonsense.
>>344560313
>but if the puzzles and map design is good why not.
They're alright. The gimmick is basically Grimrock 1, in that you're constantly descending downwards into a dungeon, but you can unlock quick ways back up and to secrets and loot you couldn't get to, it's not the worst thing.
>>344560080
level 4 or 5 alternate exit
>>344560456
>elves
Into the trash it goes
I stopped at the part where you have to wait for some leprechaun to make a bridge
I don't know why that puzzle pissed me off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apu3_mdyCDI
this is so much of a copy that it looks like it uses the same assets, look at those bricks with moss
>>344559008
Same. I really hope they don't drop the ball on Underworld Ascension.
>>344561021
Let's not forget that LoG is a DM clone itself, right down to copypasted puzzles
>>344561021
Well, it's a copy of a game that was already a copy of a game.
>>344540106
>Murph
I seriously hope
>>344551512
We still need some dungeon crawlers with free movement like MM6 to be made.
>>344532726
>>344535035
What's EO?
>>344561814
etrian odyssey
