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Tell me what I need to know about the story so I can play Inquisition.
This entire game is a fucking joke and I haven't even played more than a couple hours.

>Foxy grandma tho
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>>344517020
>Tell me what I need to know about the story so I can play Inquisition.
Merrill a cute.
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Corypheus is a bad guy human/darkspawn mage from one of the dlc. That is the most relevant development in DA2. Bioware is very shit with adding key plot elements to DLC.
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Also mages and templars go to war with each other.
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>>344517139
She's adorable, but a flat character and her eyes kinda bug me.
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>>344517020
>Tell me what I need to know about the story so I can play Inquisition.

Play the first game, that's all that's not nonsensical. Everything else following the first game is fucked.
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Dragon Age 2 is better than Inquisition
Not bait. I personally even enjoyed DA2 more than Origins but I can see why Origins is better received at least
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>>344517212
Thank you. What critical DA2 choices should I make in DA Keep to get a good world slate?
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>>344517398
What makes it better in your opinion?
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>>344517528
Writing, characters and quests are better. Gameplay is probably about equal. I'll absolutely agree with the fact that the 2 caves reused over and over is absolute bullshit though.
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http://www.pcgamer.com/dragon-age-keep-guide/7/
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>>344517020
Mages and Templars are having a beef.
Also, Red Lyrium is bad, mhkay?
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>>344517671
>Also, Red Lyrium is bad, mhkay?

Except not anymore. Except when it is. Or not. They (Bioware and their characters) don't really know.
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>>344517440
pick your waifu and decide whether you like templars or mages more, that's about it i think.
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>>344517020
>Blood magic is bad
>All mages are bad and will use blood magic
>Head mage guy: "I KNOW! LETS USE BLOOD MAGIC TO PROVE WE DON'T ALL USE BLOOD MAGIC!"
The end
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>>344517020
DA2 is better then DAI that tell you how bad DAI is
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I had lots of fun with DA2 but holy shit, everything is retarded.
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>>344517775
>tfw can't waifu varric
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You now realize there are no female dwarves in DA2.
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>Tell me what I need to know about the story so I can play Inquisition.

Nothing. Game has extensive codex you can read up on. Although, starting with DAI is a bad call because you'll just get overloaded with bullshit terminology you have no context for because it's forced down your throat. Only for it to not be relevant at all for the story because it's so simple.
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>>344517020
What pisses me off the most about DAI's story is that its premise was completely unnecessary. I mean, in a world that just went completely out of balance as mages seek Independence and templars ain't having it, where Qunari are possibly considering an invasion over this and using the Kirkwall incident as an excuse to cleanse all infidels, with Anderfels' Grey Wardens growing more despotic and only other sizeable contingent existing in Orlais, not to mention Tevinter Imperium doing god knows.... what does Bioware do? Oh you know, ancient evil awakens and wants to take over the world. Why are they so creatively bankrupt when it comes to making use of their OWN settings?
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>She's adorable, but a flat character and her eyes kinda bug me.
I agree, elves in general look slightly uncanny in II, and I think they wanted her to look a little spooky.
I like her character, though, it might be a bit more subtle than some of the other characters but Daisy's still a bit more clever and rounded as a character than most people seem to realise - like romancing her as a friend, for example.
All that blood magic probably doesn't help, though.

>>344517398
I completely agree, as much as I love Origins I love II equally as much

>>344517440
Critical:
-Which waifu you romance, so clearly Merrill or Isabela
-Friends (not Rivals) with Varric
-Either 'supported Mages' or 'supported Templars' depending on what you want to do in Inquisition (pick the same one)
-'Recruited Sebastian' and 'Killed Anders' (a lot of people miss this one but it's important, this gives you a good war table mission where he helps out you and Kirkwall instead of one where he becomes a homicidal maniac and wants to annex it)
-Let Zevran go (provided he survived Origins to appear here)

Personal preference:
Sarcastic female Rogue Hawke a best.
Bethany Hawke joined the circle & survived the game.
Killed the Arishok in single combat.
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>>344517020
it provides backstory for the first sct of inquisition, and the DLC is where they got the Inquisition bad guy from

just go play saints row instead, it's much more fun
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Just make sure to say "I don't believe in the Maker" whenever possible.
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>>344518005
Just completed DA:O ultimate edition.
Started this right after the last DLC story was done.
I really wanted to like it, kept my expectations low, but I was still hyped to see what effects the Warden had on the world. I'm disappointed that I can't enjoy this game like I wanted to.
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>>344518229
>Sarcastic female Rogue Hawke a best.
Muh nigga
default marian best marian
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>>344518346
>mfw they butchered her in DAI
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>>344517398
because da2 was fundamentally brought down by deadlines which fed into other problems like recycling locations, another wave mechanic, etc. it's full of shortcuts and THAT is why the game suffered. inquisition has no such excuse and was just poorly put together by a team that was driven by the open world craze.
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>>344518301
more plz
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>>344518409
They didn't.
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>>344517528
Not him but

>The animations are even worse than they were in DA2.
>Nobody has idle animations.
>Conversations are people freezing in t-poses or default poses until it's their turn to talk and i'm not making that up
>There's like, literally no quests that aren't standard MMO fare, almost no dialogue or interaction or anything
>A single-player MMO, with all the fun that entails
>The major quests with actual plots to them are instead off-screen War Table operations that are just backdrop to more MMO grinding
>If you try to kill Cole he literally does something more stupid than *teleports behind you* because he's the creator's pet
>Quests are Close Rifts, Kill Guys, Kill Demons, Find Landmarks, and minor variations of that
>Someone said Cole and Sera and Iron Bull are good enough to put in the game
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>>344518346
>ywn have a threesome with Isabela and Aveline

>>344518409
yeah, the fact Hawke cant be anything other than a super serious cunt with a few out of place sarcastic lines was shit.
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>>344517762
>Except not anymore.
It is shown to be universally bad.
Its never shown as anything else, not sure how you made this mistake?
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>>344518459
SR2 shaundi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SR3 new shaundi
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>The bad guy, Meredith, is bad because she believes every mage in Kirkwall is evil and doing blood magic
>She's right the entire time and it's not really even something that sneaks up on you, literally almost every mage you meet besides your sister is a blood mage

If you side Mage you're probably retarded. If you let Anders go you're DEFINITELY retarded.
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>>344518515
I'm mainly talking visuals.
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>>344518570
Did you forget you walk casually close to red lyrium in DAI as if it was nothing when DA2 showed even a tiny idol made from it drives people crazy? Not to mention exposed raw lyrium in general is fucking poison to anyone except dwarves.
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>>344518536
>>Nobody has idle animations.
In Inquisition?
>>Conversations are people freezing in t-poses or default poses until it's their turn to talk
That doesnt happen in any of the games. Never seen or heard of this, you must be glitching hard.

>>There's like, literally no quests that aren't standard MMO fare
The Redcliff quest with Dorian isnt.

Did you play the game or are you just having fun here?
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>>344518616
why pick one when you could have both?
+cyborg shaundi and housewife shaundi
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>>344518627
it's case of design team not really talking to writers

>we'll make the game about mages vs templars with blood magic being rare and sinister
>literally every enemy mage you fight is a blood mage because that's the template enemy_mage_04 some designer made
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>>344518668
>Did you forget you walk casually close to red lyrium in DAI

Are you only just noticing that this is a problem with the series? The first game did it with lyrim as well.
They all have people act like its dangerous and the story treats it as dangerous but you can still hop on it for giggles. "Don't go near it" *proceeds to hump it*

its weird, but how its always been. Surprised you only just noticed.
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>>344518627
>mfw all of my leftist friends are mage supporters who love anders like he's the hotest shit on earth.
>mfw all the right winger freinds firmly support the templars, and really dont like the mages
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>>344518832
>mage supporters who love anders
I'm a strong mage supporter and I gutted that monster.
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>>344518774
Stoner chick shaundi wins everytime, man.
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>>344518891
they literallty like him because his gay romance shit is cute.

Burn the Maleficar
Slay the Apostate
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Best Inquisition
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>>344519072
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>>344518954
>Qunari boss dominating dwarf shaundi
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>>344518687
Inquisition, yeah. And I did, but I quit after I met Hawke because it was just not fun at all.

>The Redcliffe quest with Dorian isn't

Main quests, sure, you got me there, but there's not any sidequests besides "kill demons spawning here."
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>>344519072
Wrong, Josie best inquisition
>>344519129
>implying it wouldn't be shaundi dominating
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>>344518346
>default marian best marian
Sublime taste, anon.
>tfw those lines if you take Varric and Isabela to Mask of the Assassin where they get all teary over their little rogue growing up and Hawke thanks them for teaching her everything she knows about being a scoundrel
>tfw no HawkexMerrillxIsabela OT3 ending, as much as it would make sense

>>344518552
>spoiler
Life is truly suffering.
>ywn have those three +Merrill
That scene you get where she kisses you if you flirt with her all through The Long Road is cute as fuck, though, Aveline's one of my favourite characters.
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I enjoyed the gameplay in Origins and Inquisition to a lesser extent but holy FUCK Bioware cannot write dialogue, at all. Everyone talks like a character from Buffy.
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>>344519151
>but there's not any sidequests besides "kill demons spawning here."
aside from the companion/council quests, and most of the region unique quests, like uncovering ruins in this hissing wastes or whatever. Although the best part of those is party comments, or the trails you get out of several of them, like the tribals or whatthaveyou.
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So there's really just 1 straight option in inquisition?
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>>344519198
im slightly disappointed that there's not much Saints row r34, but mountains of Dragon age stuff.
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>>344518225
Whoa anon you gotta lube me up before you go raw into it-
What exactly is the Kirkwall Incident and why should I care?
Who are the Anders Grey Wardens?

And just to clarify, Kirkwall is in the Imperium right? Or is it just a city between Ferelden and Imperium?
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>>344519307
There are 3 characters who are exclusively straight, two that are gay and a few that are bi
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>>344518810
Not only that, a lot of sidequests are "some mages ran away, go talk to them." The whole ride up there you're like "these poor, oppressed mages are just trying to escape the tyranny of the templars, I gotta help them!" You get there and the Templar assigned to hunt them down even says "Ohhhhh now Hawke please don't hurt'em, they're just scared, they're not bad people!"

And then you get there and they're like "GAS THE TEMPLARS MAGE WAR NOW, KILL THE TEMPLAR OUTSIDE, SLIT HIS THROAT, DRINK THE BLOOD, SALT HIS GRAVE"
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>>344519307
yes, and she has spic nips
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It's mindblowing how they managed to make the graphics worse. I don't even care, and the rest of the game was garbage, but how do you even manage that at all?
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>>344519353
Kirkwall is in the Free Marshes. They don't give a fuck, hence the name.
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>>344519331
I feel you anon. There's also no good fic for saints row
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>>344519118
sauce?
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>>344518627
Invoking the Right of Annulment on the whole circle still isn't justified by the actions of an apostate, though; Meredith's still a crazy, lyrium-high bitch.
Supporting the Mages but killing Anders is the best solution
What's really a shame is that because Sebastian was added late, if you spare Anders but convince him to side with the Templars so he kills himself afterwards doesn't keep Seb onside. What the fuck, Bioware.

>>344518891
>>344518970
>mfw also a strong Mage supporter and fuck that guy
His romance is fucking terrible, and so is his character.
"I'm here for some maps, not a diatribe on your strange personal habits."

>>344519072
>>344519198
Cass best inquisition, but she looked cuter in II, cheekbones aside
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>>344517020
None of your DA2 choices really matter beyond some Inquisitor table side quests, you even get to make your hawke when they show up in game.

Info wise, Anders loses his shit and goes full Taliban, blowing up the Chantry and Reverend Mother in Kirkwall. This causes the mages and Templars to go into full civil war, which spreads to the rest of Thedas. Ironically, it turns out the Templars were right - all the Kirkwall mages immediately start spewing blood magic and demons. Also the head Templar bitch gets huffed up on red lyrium and turns into a giant monster.

Choices in the Coryphaeus dlc are becaude hes tje villain in inquisition even if you kill him in da2. No they do not explain how he comes back or escapes the prison.

You literally do not need to play 2 at all with the tapestry system
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>>344519353
>Kirkwall incident
Mage commits 9/11 in the name of muh oppression, Templars declare holocaust time, mages fight back.

>who's Anders?
9/11 mage who's been possessed by a spirit called Justice.
but he's a faggot, so the spirit turned into Vengence.

Kirkwall is in the free marches, north of Ferelden
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>>344519439
who doesnt wanna be johnny gat
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>>344519464
What's your opinion on White Hair Cass?
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Just play Witcher 3 instead.
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>>344519645
thats not how you spell Saints Row 2
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>>344519376
Subtle Bioware writing, anon. Gotta love.
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>>344519449
artist is incase
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>>344519302
>Aside from the companion/council quests

You mean the ones that are done offscreen at the war table or the ones that boil down to "Herald, please go get something in MMO Area #37. I'm Solus and I need it for Solus stuff."

>the region unique quests

I LOVED "get a horse, Herald, this is important work." Great stuff, good story.

>>344519464
I don't think you understand. LITERALLY every mage you meet in DA2 is a blood mage. The only exceptions are possibly a Mage Hawke, Bethany, and that's really just about it. Even the Headmaster knowingly aided a blood mage serial killer and was fully aware of what he was doing and covered it up for little more than "I can't let Meredith think she's right." Meredith's still insane and turns on you anyway, but you know what they say about broken clocks, right?
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>>344519645
That too.
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>>344519464
DAI Cassandra was shit. I prefer DA2 Cassandra.
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Origins is the only Dragon Age video game.
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>>344517139
Worst waifu in the whole series.
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>>344519760
meredith at least has the whole lyrium idol fucking up her mind justification, mages are just stupid and willingly picked up blood magic
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>>344519645
Do you need to know anything about the first two? Is there character customization? Is it fun?
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>>344518668
It takes years for red lyrium to drive someone crazy.
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>>344519981
That's not Sera
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>>344520015
Not really just wiki it (+ info about the books), no, yes
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>>344519072
tranny
>>344519198
gypsy

Honestly, the only attractive woman in Inquisition was Morrigan, and that's only because fans complained that her original Inquisition model looked like a tranny.
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>>344520123
>bringing taste this shit to this thread full of good opinions
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>>344520045
Source? People in contact with it for less than an hour go crazy in 2. Even in Inquisition the Red Templars go crazy pretty quickly.
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>>344520048
Well, I've never let her in my party, so I wouldn't really know. Is she as annoying as she looks or does she actually have a character?

>>344519889
>tfw no mods to turn Cassandra pretty again
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>>344520337
Her character would be interesting if it wasn't so horribly written and acted
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>>344520268
>Source?

The fucking game. Meredith and Varric's brother were nuts after a 3 year time skip.
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>>344519353
>What exactly is the Kirkwall Incident and why should I care?
Anders (the Warden character from DAO:Awakening) goes mental and bombs the Kirkwall Chantry, killing the Revered Mother (the local Chantry leader) and a bunch of civilians inside; the Templars decide they'll slaughter every mage in Kirkwall in response and so the mages reveal they're (almost) all actually blood mages. Hawke decides who comes out on top of the pile of bodies.

>Who are the Anders Grey Wardens
That anon was talking about subtext/background in both Origins and II that the Grey Wardens of the Anderfels (where they're headquartered and where the First Warden commands from) have decided to essentially subsume the regular government of the Anderfels.
Like all good Bioware foreshadowing, it comes to absolutely nothing, so just ignore it.
>Where is Kirkwall anyway
It's a Free Marcher city, north of Ferelden (fuck Starkhaven)

>>344519716
People act like it's not justified, which is fair enough considering most people's opinions on DAII, but there is at least some background for it

>>344519760
>I don't think you understand. LITERALLY every mage you meet in DA2 is a blood mage.
Even if you restrict this to 'every Circle mage', it's still not /quite/ true - most of the named characters are, sure, but that's mainly because they're villains or otherwise involved in quests; and it's suggested repeatedly through the game that the situation in Kirkwall (both mages having their backs to the wall and the whole Imperial angle) is encouraging Mages who aren't using blood magic at the start of the game to fall into it later on.

Yes, rot goes all the way to Orsino, the smarmy fucker; but there's plenty of innocent mages in the Circle you simply don't see because... they're in the Circle, kids and all. Regardless, it doesn't make Meredith's actions of invoking the Right for the actions of an apostate any better.
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>>344520048
>>344520264
>>344519760

Jesus fuck are these actual cutscenes from the games? This is a joke right?
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>>344520264
Uh huh, are you the gypsy-fucker or the homo?
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>>344520264
>good opinions
anon you a huge friend
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>>344520465
Gypsy-fucker
Morrigan's best waifu from Origins to your credit
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Hawke runs from Fereldan with they're family to Kirkwall up north, spends 10 years working for Mercs/Smugglers, Flemeth helps you escape in return for a favour.
on the way your sibling dies, you lose your mother to a serial killer eventually and over the years you build up a reputation and become the "champion" of kirkwall, paying back Flemeth reveals that she survives regardless of what happened in the first game

Boss Templar is a massive bitch and treats the mages like shit, mages get desperate and try shit like escape attempts and turn to blood magic, becomes an even bigger bitch thinking this method works

Anders with a spirit inside him (from DA Awakening) goes apeshit and blows up the chantry starting a war between the mages and templars

Hawke steps in and sorts them all out but events are set in motion to trigger the inquisition to show up and try to find out what happened, Hawke has gone Awol and Varric refuses to tell them where.

in the DLC you find out who you father is and the work he was doing with the Grey Wardens in maintaing a seal for some ancient evil fuck, the seal breaks and Corypheus breaks out, you beat the shit out of him and "kill" him
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>>344520613
God, how can anyone be attracted to this? How did we go from Morrigan and Leliana to this shit?
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>>344519597
>What's your opinion on White Hair Cass
Cute!
It makes her look really severe, though - which I personally love but she looks cutest with her dark hair from II

>>344519889
>I prefer DA2 Cassandra.
Sublime taste, anon.
I still like her in Inquisition (her scar suits her, her Prussian...? accent is fucking great, and she has some cute voiced scenes) but DAII Cassandra a best.

Spoiler: HawkexIsabela cuteness.
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>>344520421
She didn't invoke it just because of Anders. Anders was just the straw that broke the camel's back. He even says as much. There's about like, what, seven years over the course of the game of mages turning blood mage or abomination? You think the Knight-Commander might not be a little justified after seven years of all-but-open blood magic in the Circle? That's just counting the time during the game, let alone the time before. I'm surprised she didn't annul the Circle sooner.
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>>344520783
Not just that, but her romance content is fucking LAME
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>play DA:I
>go battle-mage with spirit blade for infinite shields
>solo the game on hardest difficulty after getting perks
>nothing interests me in the after game
>don't pick it up again when the DLC hits

>hey anon, remember at the end when you learned that Flemeth was an elven goddess and she was eaten by solas because it turns out he is another elvish god, the trickster and boogyman of the elvish pantheon? yeah, he is the new bad guy, and wants to commit genocide on all non-elves, bring the veil between the real world and the fade down and make the elves great again

>mfw

solas was cool man, why you gotta be like that?
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>>344520798
Lewd
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>>344520889
>tfw no sex scene
>tfw SERA gets a marriage scene and Josephine doesn't
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So we can all agree that Kinzie is worst waifu?
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>>344521075
A1 opinion
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>>344520798
As someone who doesn't know the characters that well, can you help me make an educated waifu decision for DA Keep? Fem Hawke lesbian pls.

Merrill- cute elf blood witch who need protection

Isabela- a luscious pirate captain (?)

That's all I've got so far based on the thread content
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>>344521075
SR3 Kinzie excellent waifu
SR4 Kinzie trash
Asha and Jezebel underrated waifus
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>>344521001
>go battle-mage
>expect Protoss-tier laser blade
>get inflatable yellow piece of shit

meh
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>>344521075
>Kinzie
i swear, she's steve jaros's personal waifu, that's why sh has so much fucking content when shes JUST SO FUCKING BORING.

fucking zombie lin was a better waifu than fucking kinzie
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>>344521138
You got it pretty much right anon. Both are excellent, I'd flip a coin if I were you.

It only changes like 2 lines of dialogue in Inquisition anyway
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>>344521138
Merril = autist

Isabela = STD bomb

Aveline = pure cinnamon roll
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>>344519760
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>>344521138
>fem hawke
>lesbian

look, you either go for the dwarf with the great chest hair, or you tempt and fluster Sebastian with pure love.

those are your only two options
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>>344521143
>Asha
>the so called female johnny gat
a bit too whiney in the prologue for me.
Jezebel 10/10

>SR3 kinzie excellent
going to have to disagree there.

Matt miller should never have been left alive, even though he's a cool SR4 character
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>>344521203
>The Saints go to hell
>Volition wants a playable female character
>"Hmm should we pick the iconic kickass gangster or the suave super spy?"
>"No, let's pick the shy little hacker who has never interacted with Johnny and has no chemistry with him. Also let's have her do wrestling moves."
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>>344521138
Isabella is a catflap she swings both ways, Merril is a qt3.14 welsh blood mage who didn do nuffin
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>>344521348
I love Matt, but the superior SR2 Boss never would have spared him. SR3/4 Boss is fun but soft.
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>nu-saints

I don't now how to feel, senpai
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The real underrated waifu here
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>>344521485
disgusted
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>>344521381
Asha would have had more chemistry with Johnny than Kinzie, and not using shaundi even if its shitty nu shaundi is just criminal.
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>>344521018
Sorry, anon, I was supposed to post the just-slightly-censored one instead

>>344521138
>Make an educated waifu decision for DA keep?
You came to the right place!
>Fem Hawke lesbian pls.
You have perfect taste, anon.

>Merrill- cute elf blood witch who need protection
>Isabela- a luscious pirate captain
Right on both counts.
Their romances are really different, though - Daisy starts crushing on Hawke from the moment you meet her if you're nice to her, and you get a really sweet romance full of cuteness and helping her with being shunned by her clan (and basically everyone); as fem Hawke it's even sweeter because she has an extra scene where she's really emotional about not being as beautiful or strong as you, and it's just cute
Isabela meanwhile is terrified of commitment, so you get a sexier seductress romance but then she freaks out after having sex with you the first time and keeps insisting that's it's just casual so she doesn't properly get together exclusively with you until late in the game.

Both romances are nice, but Daisy a best

>>344521310
Delete this!
Varric is for best friendship, and Sebastian is for Bethany
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>>344521485
Aisha is now a k-pop robot. I am not fucking kidding.
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>>344521468
SR3/4 boss is the softest shit, god damn.

SR2 boss would tear him apart with his sheer brutality.
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>>344521685
you better provide source, freindo
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>>344521624
>just criminal
Carlos!
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>>344521841
F
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>>344521754
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRCVNCZtcrY
;_;
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>>344521625
>Bethany

>tfw bioware completely missed an opportunity to have a great character in inquisition

Beth is the best!
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>>344517139
>Merrillposting
This shouldn't be, especially in Isabela's game.
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>>344521625
This post makes me want to play the game exclusively for Daisy. Or at least binge on YouTube all the cutscenes.
It's just too bad there's no Cassandra option, her voice acting is amazing and I would love to see her flustered.
Never fall for straight girls amirite?
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>>344521885
I thought that mission dragged on too long
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>>344521897
>Aisha is an evil white Kpop AI
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>>344521956
Carlossssss
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>>344520860
>You think the Knight-Commander might not be a little justified after seven years of all-but-open blood magic in the Circle? That's just counting the time during the game, let alone the time before. I'm surprised she didn't annul the Circle sooner.
No, I don't - otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation. That said, I can /understand/ why she did it, I just don't think she was justified. The conclusion I drew from the game was that the Grand Cleric had continually refused to grant her the Right, and that after her death Meredith still had neither the sanction nor the justification for invoking it - yes, I'm aware that it's mentioned in the Codex that rights of annulment have been granted after the fact before, but the whole idea is that it's a last resort when literally the entire Circle is beyond being saved (which isn't the case, as a Mage ending proves)
Invoking the Right is as much a politically expedient one (to show Kirkwall that the Templars - that is, Meredith - are still in control and will keep them safe) and motivated by her red lyrium paranoia (hence her desire to murder Hawke no matter the ending, even over the objections of her other Templars) as it is one prompted by the outrage of the situation.
This is all just personal preference, really. Neither side is completely right.

>>344521001
You really should play it again, if you can stomach it; the Trespasser balance changes to skills made playing a Warrior or especially a dual-wielding Rogue so much fucking fun.
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>>344522154
At least there's always hope for a remaster. Oh wait.
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>>344522265
>the source code for SR2 is missing
what the fuck
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>>344517020
I'd rather play a DA2 dlc than DA3
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>>344522265
they could always remake it
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>>344522643
As much as I think the volition devs are exceptionally friendly and great to their community, I can't seem them putting in that much effort. Plus, they've well and truly moved away from anything even tangentially related to gangs.
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>>344522549
Are there anymore games on the same level of storytelling as DA:O? I really liked it because it reminded me of my love affair with the Neverwinter Nights saga and sequel saga.
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>tfw no party based rpg to play

Fucking kaedrin better hurry up with his new release so I can give path of evil a try

What's a fun party for DA:I?
I played a 2h warrior with a tank warrior + mage + rogue on nightmare but I didn't are about reaver spec so it was kinda shit.
I'm thinking melee mage
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>>344523193
>DAI
>fun
LOL
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>>344522909
>NWN2 was released in 2006
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>>344521902
>Beth is the best!
Fianlly, someone else who likes her!
She truly is best sibling, and she's such a good character the whole way through the game.
>tfw Bioware completely missed an oppotunity to have such a great character in Inquisition
Don't remind me, fuck.
>Those early banters with Isabela
>All those banters in DLC
>That banter with Sebastian

>>344521906
>This shouldn't be, especially in Isabela's game.
Sorry, anon, but they're both top-tier love interests. Will you accept some qt elf smuggler as an apology instead?
Would you happen to have a source for that image of yours? I'm a little light on HawkexBela
>tfw even with their banter, Isabela doesn't hook up with Bethany if you don't romance her
Missed opportunity.
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>>344521941
>This post makes me want to play the game exclusively for Daisy. Or at least binge on YouTube all the cutscenes.
I'd definitely recommend watching all the cutscenes on Youtube, and having a look at some of her party banters as well; it's a really cute romance. The characters really are the best part of the game, and why I love it so much - they really feel like genuine characters who all get along (more or less) with each other and Hawke, and it's a far more personal story than Origins. Make sure you watch the Friend romance, though, it's infinitely better.
If you want to give the game another go, I think dual-wield rogue is probably the most fun way to play - as long as you're not playing on Nightmare, it's pretty easy to build yourself so you just tear through everything.

>It's just too bad there's no Cassandra option, her voice acting is amazing and I would love to see her flustered.
It is a real shame, but she only appears in the framing story; it's still really cute to see her go from disbelieving and threatening Varric to having been completely enthralled by him and falling in love with his stories over the course of the game
And she has some great flustered scenes in Inquisiton so you'll just have to bite the bullet and romance her as a guy. Or look them up on Youtube

>>344523193
>What's a fun party for DA:I?
Two-handed Templar with Cass (two-handed), Solas and Varric; Dual-wield Rogue with Cass (two-handed), Solas and Varric.
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>>344523637
I went Templar on my first playthrough and it wasn't that good, it's does great against demons/undead but it's shit against humans
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>>344523403
>implying Isabela would sexualize someone who's like a little sister to her

>>344523637
>Solas and Varric
>not Dorian and Sera
Step it up, senpai.
Then again, nothing can make DAI fun.
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>>344524150
What team combos have the best bants?
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>>344524032
Eh, the only enemies I really struggled with were heavily armoured enemies - and I do love fucking people up with Wrath of Heaven/Spell Purge. Then again, I don't play on Nightmare anymore.
I had the most fun with dual-weapon Rogue, actually.

>>344524150
>>implying Isabela would sexualize someone who's like a little sister to her
>Implying Bela isn't already doing that herself
Those Act I banters don't lie, man.
>Dorian and Sera
Couldn't stand the banter of either, honestly. Nothing compared to II anyway, which is why I always kept Varric in my party.
Come on, anon, you've gotta give me sauce for that crop you posted before. I'm dying here.
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>>344522239
So why did Anders blow up the one person that could stop the Right of annulment?
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>>344524558
Cassandra and Varric hate each other almost immediately.
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>>344525268
Because he was an idiot and possessed but mostly an idiot.
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>>344525268
Abominations are kinda nuts desu.

>>344525041
>Nothing compared to II anyway
Well duh. Bants in 2 were so good, I have trouble naming my favorite party. Probably something with femHawke, Isabela, sibling Hawke and Varric /Aveline.

It's not a crop. Just google the image, I'm pretty sure the creator has nothing else of note.
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Where the fuck did /dag/ come from.
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>>344525787
>I have trouble naming my favorite party. Probably something with femHawke, Isabela, sibling Hawke and Varric /Aveline.
Good taste; femHawke/Bela/Aveline/Merrill and femHawke/Bela/Merrill/Varric are also top-tier.
Isabela has the best bants, though.

Damn! That explains it, though - I googled it, but it just led to the general femHawkexIsabela tag
Thanks anyway, anon - you seem like a man of good taste, who should I be looking at for good HawkexBela stuff?
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>>344523403
The only i hated about the game is that i couldn't made love to Athenril.
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>>344526920
I wouldn't know desu, I just save the decent bits of art as it pops up here.
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>>344527065
It was a real shame, especially with that undercurrent of sexual tension when you go back and meet her in Act II.
I'm also disappointed they didn't let you hatefuck that ice-queen from the Chantry.

>>344527426
That's cool, anon, I do the same thing. Thanks for having such good taste.
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>>344517212
Incorrect, and also not entirely accurate.

Corephispit is one of the Magisters who defiled the Black City.

Dragon Age 2 follows the chain of events that kicks off the Templar/Mage war that Inquisition starts off with the summit to end.
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Bethany is best sister
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>>344528053
Fucking good taste there, anon.
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>>344528053
Doesn't she always die in the intro ?
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>>344528731
>playing as a woman
Lol

>>344528346
She's the only reason why i side with the mages
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>>344528731
>playing as a Mage
Literally worst Hawke.

>>344528868
Same, but if you haven't seen it yet she has a really good scene if you side with the Templars but then tell her you could never let anyone hurt her.
Interactions are so much better than Carver, anyway.
FemHawke a best, fucking fight me
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>>344528053
I love Beth and all, but she doesn't do much aside from being really damn cute. Carver is a more interesting character, I think.
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How long of a game is DA2? I've been feeling the urge to try DAI and I'm wondering if it's worth going through 2 first.

I know it's bad but if it isn't too long then I might go for it.
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Just finished SR2, then played a bit of SR3

holy shit, SR3 is utter trash.

everything is so bad, from Troy Baker voice, lack of hispanic voice, the new personalities for the characters (and completley changing shaundi).

fuck me, i forgot why i hated that game
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That serial killer/mother quest

I know it's a shit game, but that quest really hit me hard.
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>>344527897
>ice-queen from the Chantry
Petrice got penetrated hard. Thats good enough for me.
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If I thought DA:O was meh will I simply hate Inquisition? I kinda want to be a fantasy french inquisitor but I guess that's not the option and I'll be forced to play some kind of CHOOOOSEN ONE or some other cliche shit.
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>>344531051
You're not "really" a chosen one but you can pretend to be.
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>>344529445
>tfw no Beth romance option

Bioware need to get their shit together and start pandering to the right minorities.
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>>344530715
Anon once a game starts hitting you in different ways it stops being shit. Its a flawed game at best.

>first time i played it
>i got chills down my spine when i started to notice the inevitable and yet still hoping for the best
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>>344531360
I don't think hillybillies plays vidyageyms anon.
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>>344517020

Establishes Hawk, some guy who fights off a qunari invasion, is heavily involved in what is the mage and templar war, and does something with Corpheus in the DLC.

Mages are all blood magic heathens and templars are just trying to bring order.
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>>344519889

I honestly think she looks horrendous there.
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>>344517398
2 is such a better game in my opinion. Then again I have always enjoyed more scaled down narratives. I can't relate to saving the world but I can relate to doing whatever to protect your family.
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>>344517020

Just read up on the DLC and you're good.
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>>344517020
honestly - nothing, when da 2 tried to be a proper story, DAI is filler tier writing(and yes trespasser as well - i hate how they murdered the lore)
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>>344531840
>da 2 tried to be a proper story, DAI is filler tier
How can you say that when DA2 amounts to nothing?
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>>344531398
That's the problem with quest doe. They literally removed the option to save her just for a shock effect. Hawke went through a lot of shit already, they don't need to kill off his mom to add to it.
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>>344531992
how can you say that when DAI amounts to even less?
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>>344532246

DAI at least goes back into the main storyline which is Morrigan and Flemeth. DA2 has nothing at all to do with that.
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>>344532329
red lyrium is a part of main story though, they just
forgot about it in dai and said fuck it
no more neat plague or secrets you just have to kill everyone now
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Look what they did to muh waifu!
LOOK AT HER!
RUINED!
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>>344533123
Turned plastic doll to human. Ruined?
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>>344532812

But DAI expands on what the red lyrium actually is and connected topics like the old gods and darkspawn.
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>>344533123

Better facial structure, fairer skin, less makeup. Not seeing the problem. Is the scar? Shit happens when you're a warrior.
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>>344533223
They changed her skin, her jawline, her lips, her hair, even her fucking ears. Everything is worse.
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>>344533356
>Everything is worse.
Woah now. You can debate all of that but her lips. Lips are straight up superior.
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>>344533223
if i wanted to see humans i'd go outside normie
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>>344533495
So why play games with humas?
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>>344533123
She looked better in Inquisition.
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>>344533452
She swapped her lipstick for gloss, they're not brown and cute anymore. Also they look way too... inflated? They just stand out a lot more, and not in a good way.
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>>344533557
>humas
humans
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>>344533557
She's not a human, anon, she's a video game character.
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>>344529813
With all the DLCs it's maybe 40 hours for an entire play through, it is a relatively short game in today's 100 hours plus RPG landscape.
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>>344533609
>She swapped her lipstick for gloss
Gloss is superior compared to a shit color.
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>>344533696
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>>344533780
Gloss IS shit. Bring back muh delicious brown waifu.
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>>344533878
Cass was never brown. She just wore shitty makeup for some reason despite being a tomboy.
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>>344534017
I think you need to look at the Before picture again, silly anon:
>>344533123
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>>344533123
That fucking jawline ruined everything.
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>>344533557
An artistic representation of a thing mostly ends up better than the thing itself anon.Though not on this case.
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>>344517020
The Mages progressively become more worrying to the Templars because of their ability to easily become possessed by demons and in return become much too powerful to control. A war starts between the Mages and Templars and Hawkeye (the PC) has to choose a side. A powerful artifact is used to make a powerful weapon that the Templar leader uses to try to kill you, but fails. You don't need to know much about Corypheus as it's explained in Inquisition. That's about it really.
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>>344517139
And retarded.
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>>344517020
Inquisition is worse than 2, dont play it.
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>>344517398
No it isn't.
Inquisition had better characters.
Better weapons and loot.
Better writing (outside of the qunari arc in 2).
Better music.
Better all around production values.
DA2 did nothing better then Inquisition.
DA2 is objectively a bad game. Inquisition is a mediocre game.
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>>344517398
Inquisition is a step down from both 1 and 2
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>>344534732
DA2 has better companions, straight up, no competition.
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>>344534732
DA2's combat system is amazing, and the camera/controls in DA:I are fucking atrocious.
Plus, you know, DA2 isn't infested with SJW bullshit pandering.
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>>344534194

I think you need to go back and play the game because she's not brown. What you see is the result of lighting.
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>>344534684
>Inquisition is worse than 2, dont play it.
No. I bet you also think ME2 was better than 3.
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>>344517020
Teh Champion delivers the unspecified message to some elves, then Flemeth appears saying some inconsequential things, only to disappear and never be seen again. Then SUDDENLY you need to protect the Free City of London from the extremist Muslims (Qurani) who want to punish kaffirs for their degeneracy. With the help of Muslim apostates you defeat the radicals and prove that Islam is indeed a religion of peace. Then SUDDENLY the Aryan paladin (Meredith) wants to kill all Jews (Mages) and you have to stop her. The mage leader turns into a monster toad because of his toxic masculinity and you kill him. Then you defeat Eva Braun and learn that evil red drugs made her go full nazi. Conclusion: drugs are bad mmkay, except Justin Trudeau's legal weed!
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>>344535128
Is this bait?
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>>344534943
>DA2 isn't infested with SJW bullshit pandering.
Except DA2 was when Bioware started their pandering.
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>>344535237

Are you confirming shit tastes?
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>>344517020
I found Inquisition unplayable due to how horrible the combat was. They managed to make it even worse than it was in DA2.
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>>344535290
Bullshit. Try again.
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>>344535461
I'm not even that anon, senpai. Thing is, the only thing that ME3 did well was the combat - and that doesn't make it better than 2.
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>>344534732
>Inquisition had better characters
If you consider talking pander chalkboards a characters, you're not wrong there.
>Better weapons and loot.
12 armors 62 different colors!
>Better writing
Inquisitor you must stop the thing!
I stopped the thing.
Stop the other one! Oh wait, the last quest is done baking, do that instead
>Better music.
Agreed
>Better all around production values
EA pumped more money in it, duh.
>DA2 did nothing better then Inquisition
Characters, combat, skill system, pacing, world building, lore introduction
>DA2 is objectively a bad game. Inquisition is a mediocre game
That's just your opinion man!
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>>344535657
>Thing is, the only thing that ME3 did well was the combat
ME2 also had an irrelevant story. The only thing ME2 had going for it was the combat and ME3 improved it.
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>>344535821
>pacing
Really can't take you serious there.

>world building
City building. It's world building was shit. DAI covered more area and explained more shit past and present.
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>>344517020
>Tell me what I need to know about the story so I can play Inquisition.
Your player character fucks up and is the catalyst for the war. Also releases the bad guy of the third game. You also find out that Flemeth is functionally immortal, and that this game 'wraps up' the Leliana's Song dlc. That's all. Oh and whatever happens, Varric, Cassandra, Hawke, Leliana and Isabela survives.
You also cuck Templars and Mages simply by existing.
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>>344536205
Nigga its fucking better than what Inquisition did. The story was alright, but it was all over the place.
>Inquisitor he haven't much time!
>Oh, wait we have time now
>I thought you said we don't have time?
>We do now. Oh wait, we don't suddenly

At least with DA2 its.
>Whats happening Hawke?
>Shit happened, we better go fix it
>There fix! Now who wants to chill for the next 3 years before the other shitstorm starts?
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>>344537276
>The story was alright
Hardly. The game itself is carried by a select few missions. Meanwhile, you're slapped in a face by a series of events where the mages prove everyone right.

>There fix! Now who wants to chill for the next 3 years before the other shitstorm starts?
Yes, because it was all pointless.
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>>344535937
ME2 story wasn't had.
People can say it was irrelevant to the entire reaper story line, but the story itself works as a stand alone game. ME2 also had the best squad mates, by far. Best side quests as well.
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>>344538821
>People can say it was irrelevant to the entire reaper story line, but the story itself works as a stand alone game.
It focused too much on parenting. People are more complex than that.

>ME2 also had the best squad mates
I can't really agree to that. ME1's cast did a wonderful job of providing perspective on the galaxy through the eyes of people from different parts of that society. The only thing ME2 really did was show how different people coped with the MC missing and Mordin's input on the genophage. Everything else delved into parenting and gangs.
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>Dragon Age thread

Honest opinions incoming
Sera is genuinely attractive
Sarcastic Female Mage Hawke best Hawke
If you don't romance Morrigan in DA:O, you might as well uninstall the game.
DA:O > DA:I > DA2
The Trespasser was amazing and I think the franchise has an absolutley great potential.
The people who were in charge of Iron Bull's model proportions should be shot and executed.
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>>344540120
>first spoiler
Stopped reading there
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>>344521001
What the fuck happened ?


All i remember is my Warden being cool and shit, stopping Blight and then screwing around with his buddy Oghren.

What happened in DA : I ?
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>>344540120
Of course it has potential. Bioware has just managed to drop the ball with every game its made since DA2.
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fuck 2 and inquisition. horribel games that could have been so much more.
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>>344540120
>Sera
No. She's one of the less boring companions of DAI and it has nothing to do with her looking like a fucked up goblin.

>Hawke
Yep.

>Morrigan
I prefer redheads, rogues and bards to tsundere memery desu.

>Trespasser
Barely passable at most. You're not wrong about potential, but Bioware are physically incapable of doing anything right these days.
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>>344540120
>Trespasser was amazing
This
Solas could be the first really great antagonist in the series
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>>344541552
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>>344517020
Qu'nari attack a free standing city and are unable to hold control

Mage Templar war erupts because anders is a dick

Deamons can be manifested from higher concepts rather than just negative base ones(rage, lust greed) for instance justice.

Sarcastic Femhawke is only decent Hawke

Aveline and the Dwarf are the only companions worth a damn.
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>>344541643
Ok i could never bring myself to finish Inquisition so what the hell is trespasser? Is it a new game?
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>>344542263
Last DLC for Inquisition and probably the only good one, takes place 2 years after the events of the original game
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>>344540120
>Morrigan
But I hate that bitch
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>>344517398
I found DA2 more enjoyable than Origins to be completely honest. Hawke was a better character than the warden, the quests were more fun and companions a bit more varied (if the majority were dicks that you wanted to shoot within moments)

But it had a couple of glaring issues.

a) the city barely changes over 20 years
b) painful reusal of locations. There's 6 at most.
c) enemy spawning mechanic (usually 3 waves in all directions) means that positioning of your group is completely irrelevant which in turn means that warriors are almost useless as they can't stop enemy damage dealers from damaging you.
Which in turns means your ideal early game composition is mage heavy (as they do respectable AoE until about after 2/3rds of the game) and late game composition being rogue heavy as they do high single target damage.

The DLCs also apparently brought in a lot of plot points, but I've never owned those so I don't know.

Origins then had a lot of very flat quests and your composition had to rely almost exclusively on mage AoE - cones of cold and similar to drop the relatively constant enemy pressure.
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>>344542263
Post-ending dlc. Actual spoilers:
>qunari start a war
>Inquisition disbands after some top-tier angry rants from the Inquisitor
>Solas is actually a fucking idiot
>ending implies the next DA will be set in Tevinter
>neo-Liara will probably stick around for some reason
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>>344542820
Is the dlc a whole other game like awakening or is it just a couple hour offshoot like the DA2 DLCs?
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>>344542820
>Solas is actually a fucking idiot
No need to spoiler. We know.
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>>344543014
5-6 hours if you play all of it
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