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ITT: shitty games that are popular and you can't understand why
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SA is ass. That being said I still played through the whole thing again recently. Then I played SAB2 because LIVE AND LEARN
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>>344514145
People like Sonic Adventure because of a weird combo of nostalgia and autism-induced delirium.
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one of the most tedious platformers i've ever played

>no checkpoints, one mistake and you have to go back to the very beginning of the level
>levels are like 3+ fucking minutes long
>by the end of the game shit is coming at you so fast that you can't react and it becomes trial and error

imagine if every time you missed a note in guitar hero it started the song over. that's this game.

but it got popular because muh anamemeaguchi
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Sonic fans
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fallout

all of them

pokemon

suikoden 2
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>>344514465
Are you even thinking of the right fucking game?
>>344514408
Or because it's fun.
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>>344514145
Elder Scrolls
Fallout
Witcher
Undertale
Overwatch
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>>344514635
It's not even fun. It sucks. Sonic Adventure 1 sucks. Deal with it.
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sonic fans will play any piece of garbage
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>>344514145
The entire Playstation catalog after 2007.

>Hating Sonic Adventure.

You have a trauma derived from environmental autism.
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>>344514943
the lack of self-awareness in this post
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>>344514845
>My opinion is a fact. Deal with it.
Go be cancer somewhere else.
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>>344514145
music, atmosphere, nostalgia
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>>344515054
It's a literal fact that Sonic Adventure is trash.
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>>344515162
At least you tried.
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>>344514635
>>344515054
>>344515262
autism
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>>344515338
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All Sonic games, honestly. 2 is fine. 3 is fine. Generations is alright but has some serious issues.
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>>344515453
Different tastes.
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>>344514590
>suikoden 2
Amen.
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>>344515668
>>344515262
>>344515054
>>344514635
Sega Games Co., Ltd. has deposited $1.19 into your accont.
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>>344514408
I loved Sonic Adventure back when it first came out. I grew up with the original Sonic games so having Sonic in 3D was a big deal.

I recently replayed it on the PC and all I could think was "well shit, this game isn't any damn good". It really hasn't aged well.
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>>344515012
The lack of capacity to enjoy games is disturbing.
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>>344515885
nigga you just said "every game released on playstation after 2007 is shitty" and you're telling me I can't enjoy games because I don't like some shitty dreamcast game
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>Ask why someone likes a series/game
>mfw I get "It's fun" and nothing else
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I like Sonic Adventure because it was good for 1997 and the impact is still there for me.

What I don't understand is why people play indie shit like The Binding of Isaac or Don't Starve.

They're completely unimpressive gameplay wise and the art direction is vomit.
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>>344516201
>I like Sonic Adventure because it was good for 1997

Does that mean it was not so good for 1998, the year it came out in?
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>>344515953
>>344515885
>>344515012
>Crying about shitty opinions in a thread dedicated to shitty opinions
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>>344515836
That's because you played the shit DX version.
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>>344516304
Unless his faggot ass lives in Japan or he imported a Dreamcast at launch for whatever fucking reason he was not playing that shit until 1999 at the earliest. Probably some kid pretending he's older than he actually is for no reason.
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>>344516165
>literally "I Hate Fun: The Post"
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If you played the awful Director's Cut then you haven't really played the game and can't judge it.
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>>344516678
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>>344516891
Good argument. But you have no excuse nowadays. You can play the original on your PC so you can throw away your Director's Cut CD-ROM.
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>>344517164
>You can play the original on your PC
I really, really, don't want to.
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>>344517164
Alright autismo, since you're willing you defend your favorite game to the death, why exactly is the original better than DX?
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>>344516713

Maybe I just got the year wrong, you fucking autist.

Game came out in 1997 but I played it on Dreamcast in Europe.
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>>344514145
Came out at the turn of the visual generation where every game played in 3D standard. Sonic's buzz and hype was huge by that point so naturally people still remember it distinctly. It stands out for a reason.
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>>344517339
>Game came out in 1997

You did it again. It came out in 1998, barely.
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>>344517275
There are a lot of reasons why the original is better than the PC port.
Character models are way better in the original, the physics are fucked up in the director's cut, collision detection is off in DX, and the control is way more touchy in DX.
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>>344517275
I'm not him, but the controls, physics, and graphics were all butchered. It's also miles more unpolished.
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It's not the game that shitty, it's the programming, I have the DX version and I can't advance because every time I go through a loop, Sonic flies through it and dies, it's weird because I've played it before and never had this problem.
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>>344517607
Those games have a tendency to fuck up on newer PCs. I had the same problem with the PC version of Sonic R.
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>>344517527
I'm >>344515836

>collision detection is off in DX

That sounds promising. One of the biggest problems I had playing it again recently was Sonic kept slamming to a halt because he brushed a wall. I don't recall it being like that back in the day, but I thought I was just better at it back then.
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>>344517971
It's not good. Just git gud at the original and save yourself the annoyance of falling through everything and failing to hit every enemy.
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>>344516772
literally "im too autistic to discourse without using memes" the post

fuck off asswipe
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>>344515953
>Dreamcast.
>Shitty.
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>>344514465
It's pretty fun to play when you memorize everything.
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>>344514943
>Sonic Adventure is good
>2007 RUINED GAMING

Sasuga /v/
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Even the best Sonic games are mediocre for their time at best. Insane how it has such a huge fanbase. Autism is a hell of a drug.
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>>344521378
Hi, Arin
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>>344521450
How you doing, Josh?
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I'm convinced that Sonic Franchise is just one big "in joke" and that people who buy the games are doing the full wink-wink nudge-nudge deal when talking about how they love the series.

Using Arin from Game Grumps as an example, I remember him stating that Sonic has like an odd charm to it because of it's mediocrity and jankiness to it, and that he completely understands that very few of them are playable.

>>344517550
>I don't know how to not kill people in video games therefore MGS is bad.

I can get if this was PP you are specifically talking about because the story is very apparent with fiddled hands, but the rest of the series (Bar PO and Acid) is fucking great.
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>>344521748
Arin's a moron who has trouble performing even the easiest tasks, and he's the one saying something's unplayable?
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>>344521378
Are you smoking my man. Compare Sonic and Super Mario World to any other games that were released in 1991 and you'll see how much of an influence they were in later years.

Just visually alone Sanic raised the fucking bar way high, and that's when 16-bit games actually started to look good, before it everything just looked like an 8-bit game with an increased color palette.
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>>344522054

Yes, congratulations for understanding and being new.

I'd post butt, but Blue Board.
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>>344521748
More like the story in Metal Gear has always been hilariously awful and self-important as fuck. Not to mention the stealth was barely worth being called that - you want a game that does stealth right check out the first three Thief or Splinter Cell games.
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>>344522203
It's true the first sonic game released just a bit after Super Mario World but even if the graphics were pretty neat, and the music memorable I'd argue the gameplay isn't of any quality you'd want to compare to Super Mario World.
It's just some okay platforming with great graphics and music.
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>>344522203
>Compare Sonic and Super Mario World to any other games that were released in 1991
Now compare Sonic and Super Mario World. They're on a completely different level. As I said, mediocre.
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Neptunia in general. When asked why people like it it's "cute girls" what else? Nothing.

You can look up these girls for free anytime you want you don't need to buy a $60 game with recycled content every year. Literal meme series.
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>>344522534
That's an ancient debate that goes back to primary school that I don't want to rehash for nth time.
Let's just say I like both.
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>>344522534
Mario World is alright. It's not great, but it's better than mediocre.
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>>344522534

>smw
>not the epitome of mediocre

the only reason anyone even remembers it is because of secret exits and how hilariously overpowered cape/yoshi are. The levels and platforming are boring as fuck
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Mega Man in general. The games have so many things wrong with them (especially the X games) that no other series gets away with (bullshit level design, constantly respawning enemies all around you, being unable to hit most enemies due to them flying above you and you being unable to aim upwards, or too short for you to hit, awful controls that make it impossible for you to dash-jump off a wall while charging which you NEED to do to defeat some bosses, backwards difficulty curve etc.) yet the Mega Man franchise is always given a free pass for it.
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Edgy
poorly conceived
knock-off of a more popular game
completely different from the original
bullshit difficulty curves
completely pointless open world

everything /v/ hates about a bad sequel yet this is beloved
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>>344517946
Oh ok
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>>344522943
Does anyone like Jak II?
If anything to me it's perplexing how people like Jak 3, maybe you're confusing it with that.

To me only Jack & Daxter is salvageable in the series.
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>>344522849
>being unable to hit most enemies due to them flying above you
You're gonna need some examples of this because I'm calling bullshit.
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What a nice thread
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>>344523028
>Does anyone like Jak II?
you have no idea. Fucking NaughtyDrones hail it as best of the series and honest-to-god a great replayable game. It's fucking horrible, worse than Sonic Adventure.

Then again people who grew up with Sony consoles seem to have shit taste in mascot games anyhow.
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>>344523067
You only have to read the rest of his post to conclude that he didn't like it enough to make an effort to learn how the game works.
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>>344523067
You either need to jump and shoot or using homing attacks to hit any kind of aerial enemy, and if you can't do either you're just fucked.
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>>344522849
that just sounds like you are bad. this is literally the only time ive ever seen anyone complain about megaman controls
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>>344523218
There are no common aerial enemies that you can't hit in the megaman series.
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>>344523226
Ah yes the classic Dark Souls defense.
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>>344514465
Anamemeaguchi only had 2 songs in the game, and they were just taken from an earlier album.
At any rate, Runner 2 is a lot better.
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>>344523218
Even I don't like MegaMan games and that's a retarded thing to say. It's a limitation set by the game, and the enemy placements are there for you to conquer that limitation. That's like playing checkers and complaining you can only move diagonally.
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>>344523329
Or maybe you are actually bad.

You don't load up a game and expect to be good at it immediately, it's not Plebshock.
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>>344523392
Fair enough, but it's really annoying if there's a flying enemy coming at you and you can't hit it without being hit yourself.
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>>344514943
>The entire Playstation catalog after 2007.
>hating on Ratchet & Clank Future
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>>344523329
complaining about controls in Megaman is like saying that saying that McDonalds doesn't serve Big Macs.

You're just wrong. Megaman controls are industry-standard for how fluid and responsive they are. Are you confusing it with Castlevania?
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>>344523428
What is Plebshock?
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>>344523476
Then do it like me, don't play them. Again I don't like MegaMan games, but doesn't mean I think they're bad, it's just not for me. From all I've seen they seem to be really well designed.
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ITT: people with bad taste, outright bad at games, or so insecure they have to use buzzwords to justify themselves.
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>>344523476
> but it's really annoying if there's a flying enemy coming at you and you can't hit it without being hit yourself.
There is no time in a megaman game where you can't react to an enemy. It sounds like you're making excuses.
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>>344523503
diff anon, honestly don't like R&C future. Feels floaty and slow.
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>>344523547
>boy everyone is dumb except me
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Any of those shitty FTP sniper/hunter/zombie games clogging up the mobile app store.

You can literally play the PS2 GTA trilogy on your phone, and yet people instead choose to play complete garbage.
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>>344523547
if they make a good argument, whatever, but the megaman guy is literally just saying shit like "megaman controls bad and you can't dodge the enemies" which is clearly due to a lack of skill as opposed to a flaw in the game.
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>>344523630
Well alright then.
I loved A Crack in Time, but to each their own.
What did you think of the PS4 R&C?
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>>344523716
Ain't got a PS4 and didn't play Crack in Time. Just talking about Tools of Destruction.

Overall I enjoy the R&C games but goddamn they do not change a single bit from game to game. You get new weapons but that's about it. It feels stale even the second time through. I have Up Your Arsenal and gameplay-wise I think it's probably the best one, though it doesn't feel much different.
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>>344523641
You are just proving my point by greentexting.
It's ok to don't like everything, but you should expect people calling shit on you. Even with sanic.

>>344523691
I rarely see threads like this providing good arguments. Most of the time it's just contrarians general.
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>>344514145
It's popular because Gamma
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>>344514465
>my attention span is under three minutes
No surprise
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>>344514145

Sonic Adventure is not popular by any means. Stop hanging out with autists.
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>>344514145
Sonic & Sega all-autism racing
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>>344523926
>It's ok to don't like everything, but you should expect people calling shit on you. Even with sanic.

That's not what I'm saying, I don't mind getting shat on or people disagreeing with me, now you're just projecting. But you're portraying a smug attitude of being superior to everyone while contributing nothing.

At least with that post, obviously I don't know what discussions you're contributing to the thread. That's just unnecessary Anon, try not to act superior, humble yourself a little bit.
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>>344524170
yeah that one is pretty mediocre. Can't believe people were calling it a mario kart killer.
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Never understood the why people gush over this thing.
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Everyone praises this game but it has bland combat, shitty checkpoint spots, no bosses, uninspired enemy designs, and I quit caring about the story because Raziel wont shut up every 5 minutes.
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>>344524268
Not saying I don't like it but it does have problems. Still think it's a good game with interesting characters and setting. But boy is that combat system a fucking slug.
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>>344524170
Considering kart racers are a dead genre this gen people will take what they can get.
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>>344524249

are you implying that mario kart isn't mediocre? The kart racing genre hasn't seen any real improvement since crash and diddy kong
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>>344524170
The game looks simplistic if you only play 5 minutes, but it has a very high skill ceiling and depth that if you don't get to explore it you won't notice. It's fucking great. At least Transformed, the original one is pretty weak.
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>>344514145
>be massive segafag
>dreamcast is the whole "the king is back" moment for me
>read reviews sucking SA's dick
>very excite
>buy DC a month after launch (it was sold out) with money I had scrounged up for years
>pop in SA
>the game is complete fucking trash
My entire life's savings down the drain.

At least I could burn every game under the sun to CD's just a few months later.
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>>344524427
Mario Kart is fun. Sonic Racing is alright.
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>>344524206
Anon, I could post some games I didn't like and contribute to thread, but I can't help myself. Threads like these are just garbage, sorry.
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Gotta love these threads
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>>344524170
It's legitimately a better game than most of the Mario Karts, has content outside of multiplayer and actually has some challenge to it.
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>>344524170
Both SAT games are great for what they are. Genuinely had more fun with these than any other kart racer I've played.

(I have not played much of Mario Kart 8, but it felt really slow to me what I did play.)
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>>344514145
All fps games in the past 7 years
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>>344522810
Here's your (You)
now go home
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>>344514145
Sonic's gameplay in SA is the best in the 3D games. The rest of the cast wasn't so great
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>>344514145
sa1 is great.
the only downside is everyone that isn't sonic got shafted in levels. and the levels other characters got were just sonic's sloppy seconds.

chao was a sweet virtual pet minigame. and the time trials made it so you don't have to go through adventure fields/loading screens.

back in the day, the only complaints about sa1 were big the cat and holding forward 24/7 when playing as sonic.
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>>344524358
Is the pc version any better?
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>>344527946
I don't think they changed anything considerable.
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>>344527994
The game was so barren. Especially the farther you got in the story. It's obvious they had to rush it out the door.
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>>344517550

I hate MGS3 and stealth games in general but still I fucking love the original MGS, so fun, good music, great voice acting and nice boss battles (just beat the ninja and Psycho Mantis after like 15 years without playing this game and it's as awesome as I remembered)
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>>344528239
The more time passes the more I come to appreciate MGS1. As the series got bogged down with gimmicks and new mechanics MGS1 stayed true to the essentials. What an amazing game it is, when the credits roll in with Rika Muranaka and that Alaska scenery I can't really help myself but cry.
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