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>2 hours in
Is this the most soulless JRPG ever made? I almost feel like The Last Hope was better than this.
Does it get any better? At least I know it's not especially long.
>Soulless
Cut this shit out. How do you even define a soul much less define a game having a soul?
>I'm hating it like you guys said. Am I cool yet?
It starts feeling like an okay game about a quarter through, then you'll get sick of never having a full party, and roll your eyes whenever a certain character goes missing again. It gets good again once you finally get the full party for longer than five minutes but soon after the monotony set in. The post game goes full retard with boss design.
Savor the Fiore camera angles because she really keeps you going better than everything else.
>>344504051
I think he's just saying in a fancy way that the setting and interactions is bland as shit
>>344504051
Wow, you are autistic aren't you
Are the newer star oceans anything like 2 was? That was the only one I played and I really liked it.
>>344504102
not OP but the game really isnt that good. its only better than the last hope because the characters are actually not shit and annoying.
also, the blindside gimmick in last hope is better than the stupid parry/counter attack thing in SO5.
>>344505368
The seamless 7-party member combat is pretty badass, though. If they are able to combine aspects from different Star Ocean games, they could make a truly fantastic masterpiece.
is it censored at all
>>344507048
No.
>>344507048
Fiore isn't. Welch isn't.
Miki's panties were changed before the game came out even in Japan.
>>344504529
all of them shit the bed farther and farther like only Tri ace can.
3 has combat fans will defend to death, with some stupid shit like Mp death, plots worse, multiple endings are worse and more a pain to get (ulp you looked in a trash can once, Now no girl likes you ever.) STILL on the low tech planet too long
4 has even more retarded plot, worse characters and the multipel endign thing is reduced to bonus cutscenes on the side. cat girls good for a fap if you want camel toe ona flat as fuck catgirl you can't fuck.
>>344506426
>The seamless 7-party member combat is pretty badass, though.
The concept sounds good but in practice it's awful. Too much shit happens on the screen at once and if you play as anyone but Fidel then they might be outside the battle perimeter when the enemies aggro and that will cancel the fight.
>>344506426
>The seamless 7-party member combat is pretty badass
it works, surprisingly but i wouldnt call it "badass". if you were actually able to do team attacks and stuff, then that would be pretty cool.
>>344506426
Series has never had trouble with it's combat though, it's everything else being mediocre that';s dragging the series down.
Does this one even lip service the multiple ending aspect of 2 and 3? or that shitty extra cutscene if you did everything perfectly crap liek last hope?
Star Ocean has always been awful, why the fuck is everyone on this board shocked that this one is awful?
WHY ARE YOU SURPRISED?!
It's business as usual. Star Ocean has always been so bad.
>>344507729
Enough of this meme. 2 and 3 were perfectly fine games.
>>344507729
2 had 72 ending variants and each possible pairing actually had ending variances based on who loved the other more. plus decent actual combat for an RPG before action rpgs were a bigger thing
>>344507835
3 was not a good game. The fury system was stupid and the invention system was retarded. Also, MP death. Fayt sucked and his English VA was so bad that, at the end of a fight, you couldn't tell if he was saying "That was hard!" or "That was fun!"
>>344503760
yeah, I feel like TLH was better than SO5. I fucking sold SO5 for $30USD. worst $64.94 I ever spent.
>>344508079
I dunno I don't think he was so b- SIDE KICK SIDE KICK SIDE KICK SIDE KICK DIMENSION DOOR.
>>344508079
Mp death was the single stupidest idea I have ever seen. i can get you mayeb wantign to prevent ability spam, but MAYBE then don't make us stuck with a guy wth liek 10 mp for annoying chunks of play.
ALSO wtf is with this series and giving you ability to pair the protag with other girls, then make the default one have 30x more afifnity points every time an approval also ups their approval? SO2 was a nightmare for this unless oyu played 'as' the girl/used the book cheat method.
>>344508246
>tfw paying $40 for it and getting it the Saturday before street date
Fucking ebay sometimes.
>>344508079
>the fury system was stupid
what, you don't like having stamina? you're fucking retarded, kid. learn how to play a fucking game.
>invention system was retarded
have certain inventors with certain values and shoot for a product in a given money range. how the fuck is that stupid? that's how invention happens you dumb fucking nigger. are you mad that you had to continually hit X to get the right price point for Boots of Prowess?
>MP death
perfectly fine concept and I love that it exists. one more resource to manage (that you'll manage anyway, gotta cast angel feather and power up) and one more resource to pay attention to. can make some boss battles easier going for MP, or impossible because MP pools are retarded high.
>Fayt sucked
not an argument
>his English VA was so bad
Steve Staley was good. JPN dub weeb retard detected.
In short: fuck you.
>>344503760
>2 hours in
>Soulless
You're a Typical American fucktard who has no clue about video games or your own language for that matter and is wasting his life shitting on a game he hasn't played on 4chan so I'm out.
>>344508603
>Steve Staley was good. JPN dub weeb retard detected.
not the same guy youre replying too but no, he fucking sucked.
and i mainly prefer dubbed voices in games too because i dont know chingchong.
>>344508441
Not only that, but in SO5, the other two girls are already in a relationship.
Anne is married to Emmerson and Fiore is still in love with her mentor.
Also
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/07/08/star-ocean-till-end-time-really-end-series-timeline/
>Star Ocean: The Last Hope went back in the timeline and now there is Star Ocean: Integrity & Faithlessness. The natural progression would be to come after the storyline from Till the End of Time, but since it has been seven years we are trying to get new users to try the series. If we did something after Till the End of Time it would alienate new players. They wouldn’t understand. Gotanda-san actually selected this part we have in Star Ocean: Integrity & Faithlessness so new users can come in. He actually has the storyline thought up after Star Ocean: Till the End of Time, but these haven’t been realized yet.
NEW
FANS
Fuck off Tri Ace, if you wanted new fans you would have tried to get more of a budget
>>344508603
No, fuck you and your point-by-point rebuttal, autismo. The combat wasn't reactionary like it should be for an action RPG. You had to stand still like a dipshit to refill your fury to 100% to GUARD, when guarding against attacks should've just had its own dedicated button. Nothing in SO3 was even remotely fun and that includes the invention system.
>Start game
>Not really feeling it
>Get to the road between generic starting village and first town
>Music is really cool so I press on
>Get to first town
>Titty witch joins
>Game is SIGNIFICANTLY better
>Enjoying game
>Titty witch leaves
>Remember how boring the game is
>Not enjoying the game again
I'm struggling on a little bit at a time but I just can't get into it.
Supposedly we're looking for the titty witch again now but until I see her my motivation is lacking.
Are the plat requirements as ridiculous as SO4
>>344508897
Tri ace need to be fused with a dev team who can write chaarcters and stories well, but can't design combat for shit.
I remember looking at the endings for 3 and beign annoeyd they sucked. all that extra bullshit of indirect stuff to alter yoru odds witht he girls, and onyl liek oen ending even implies you are involved, and one implying you 'will' get invovled shortly after.
quite a loud of shit after SO2 with it's everythign from Claude has becoem his dad and made his alien waifu be pregnant and alone on a ship, or staying on her homeplanet. stuff.
>>344509015
>Nothing in SO3 was remotely fun
What do you consider fun, anon?
>>344509186
She joins again soon.
>>344509363
Does she stay this time?
>>344503760
The first few hours are pretty dull.
But once you get a full party going and start building skills/roles it's really fun, at least it is to me.
>>344509352
SO2 had almost 90 endings
SO3 was 19... I think
>>344509186
Panning the camera to see those angles really made all the backtracking more tolerable along the way. Still find it endearing even after beating Ethereal Queen the first time.
>>344509352
Tbh I liked SO3, yes I know it had problems and thw twist was so bad that even Shamalan was like "too far"
But idk, there was something there. I liked all the characters.
>>344509186
Titty witch is half the reason I'm getting the game. That said, my expections weren't high for SO5 since I rightfully assumed they wouldn't get much money from Square to develop the game.
>>344509835
I would not have bought this game without her.
>>344509537
SO2 is 2D
>>344509347
Three playthroughs needed but the battle trophies aren't nearly as bad. Encyclopedia and Trophies are saved to a system file so it carries over and unlocks roles that are BT dependent right away for new files.
>>344509015
>s-stop rebutting me!!
>y-y-you're AUTISTIC!!!
with that over with,
>the combat wasn't reactionary like it should be for an ARPG
what...what the fuck did I just read? Are you FUCKING retarded? What are
>EM Stun Bombs
>guarding
>Stun bombs in general
All for $500, Alex? please tell me you aren't fucking retarded. because your LOL PRESS BUTTON TO GUARD gave us SO5. you dumb fucking idiot.
>nothing in the game was remotely fun
you don't know what fun is. go back to playing Journey, idiot.
dumb fuck, you have no argument. get the fuck out of here.
How do you do the emotes during cutscenes?
>>344504051
He means it's not a Christian game.
I got 30 day gamefly trail just to try it out and op is right boring af no reall interest. There are scenes where u think oh wait i might get attacked oh wait nope more walking.
is 2 still the best in the series?
>>344510152
Kek. good one anon
>>344506426
>The seamless 7-party member combat is pretty badass
To bad you dont really get to enjoy battles sometimes as the entire team ass fucks damn near 80% of the normal enemies.
Bosses and enhanced enemies(high lvl quest, cathedral dungeons,protect anne) are the only thing that pose any threat
>>344509970
I find it absolutely hilarious that calling your favorite game bad causes you to go fully autistic and respond to everything in a point-by-point debate. The invention system, MP death, and fury system are extremely common complaints for the game for most people that play it. Tough shit!
>ruin every conversation by standing uncomfortably close to the person talking
>giggle as MC death glares at everyone with his resting bitch face
>furiously mash the share button on titty witch's vagina
I dunno, I'm having fun. I just fucking hate those "defend Anne" missions. Would also be nice if you could skip conversations, cause if you game over you have to keep rewatching them..
>>344510213
Yes
What a surprise. /v/s taste is as bad as Japan's. SO5 is great fags.
>>344510213
Always.
>>344503760
Will there ever be another SO game on par with SO2? It's like they gave up on the series after that, and each game since was worse than the last.
>>344508897
>Anne is married to Emmerson and Fiore is still in love with her mentor.
Wait then so what is the love potion 256 for in SO5?
I thought you use it to make one of the females fall for you
>>344503760
don't play it.
>>344510314
You literally have no argument. That's why i get defensive, because you post completely baseless things indicating you havent played the game for more than five minutes. I dont care how popular your 'points' are, they are without merit and are continually proven to be true only for retarfed mouthbreathers. Your pathetic opinions are overvalued and led to the shitshows that were SO4 and 5. Thanks a bunch for that. Games are being destroyed because idiots like you who can't play them for shit keep typing uo stupid opinions. You are fucking stupid. Keep calling me autistic, it isnt true idiot.
would someone please post the terrifying webms of this?
>>344503760
I'm 10 hours in.
On a core level, Star Ocean 4 is easily better.
And I get the feeling that SO4 even also had more graphical embellishments than this game. if you don't count resolution and frame rate
>>344507467
what the fuck is this post
>>344509469
This.
>>344509457
No, not untill you get at least 60% finshed with the story do they stay permanently i think and thats after relia is captured for the 3rd fucking time and they all come together to go after her.
>>344508897
>All that salt still about 3's twist and endingnothing here but your wasted time
>>344510702
Nope, you use it to get PA points up for teamates
You can use it on guys too
>>344510874
In SO4 everyone looked like a creepy emotionless doll, at least here there are more facial animations than mouth flapping.
>>344511045
That you never see because you are dealing with that shit camera, unfortunately.
>>344506426
>The seamless
Go back to playing FFXII if you wanted "seamless" combat.
>>344503760
You're soulless
>>344510965
and I am not surprised at all. every game keeps pulling back the ending and shipping options, five finally just says fuck you can't have. I'm just officially done with the ip.it's petty reason but fuck it, i'm sick of the one unique and impressive aspect of the series beign gutted for the same shit every other jrpg has.
I only tolerated this series out of the love of ending options So2 had, bye Star ocean i'm just gonna fap to your tit witch on the way out.
>>344511712
>XD le witch butt guys!
Fuck the hell off. I bought this turd for gameplay, not to look at checkered ass. Fuck you and the SO3 hating retard too.
>>344506426
>seamless
Wait. They don't do that screen woosh thing and teleport to a battlefield like in 3?
>>344511758
>i'm just gonna fap to your tit witch on the way out.
>>344511712
yep. looks like a vita game alright.
Anne isn't married to Emmerson...
>>344512110
Might want to get your eyes checked buddy
>expected the game to start off in space and have a series of events leading to an underdeveloped planet
>it's the opposite
I always thought that was the best part of the series, aside from 1 of course when you're the native.
Honestly I wanted a game built off of the tech demo they did five years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cuXgRVMvZ0
>combat was fantastic in SO3/4
>only reason why anyone should play those games
>loved playing as Maria/Reimi because long ranged ass rape without using slow and boring symbols
>SO5 decides to change the combat in minor but really annoying ways...also somehow manages to fuck the camera system in a goddamn JRPG
>no awesome ranged character that doesn't use symbols
Welp there goes that game. At least Fiore is awesome...no way would I play this shit without her.
Also really fuckin' glad the game is ~20 hours long. 60+ hours would be dreadful.
Is Air Raid to win still viable or they finally learned?
>>344512629
>That level of graphics
Maybe they'll use it for a COD clone because that's the only way they'll get back the money
>>344512129
She is
You find out is a PA
>>344512642
I'm nearing 60 in the post game dungeon. Those fuckers eat up a lot of time until you get the proper gear and materials from the dungeon itself.
>>344513775
I thought it was Side Kick to win. Is Side Kick in the game?
>>344503760
It's a pretty shit game.
By comparison, SO4 was fucking incredible (actually wasn't that bad except for Edge being a giant pussy for an obnoxiously long time afteraccidentally imploding earth.)
I have a question now, tried to start a SO thread before and it didn't get a single reply so now's my chance.
I saw this. Does this mean Integrity and Faithlessness is also set in the eternal sphere like 1-4 (virtual reality world) or is it a different VR game universe? Or could it just be a fourth wall breaking thank you message to the player?
>>344511913
Nope. You see a group of enemies, run up to it, battle immediately starts. After battle, everyone sheaths their weapons and you keep going.
In practice it's nice, but when the entire battle system is spamming one single attack over and over because that's all you can equip, you can't even appreciate how smooth the game is.
The colours are fantastic, but there are very few areas in the game, and you backtrack for more than half of the entire playtime.
>>344514079
Yes but air raid is better. Side kick and dimension door were the "win fight" arts in SO3. I might go replay that game now. Kinda getting tired of SO5's shitty rock-paper-scissors system where rock (strong attack) beats paper and scissors.
>>344514245
Last I checked, all of Star Ocean before the end of 3 is in a game made by 4D people.
>>344514581
I'm asking if SO5 is as well, because I heard SO5 was supposed to be a "reboot".
>>344514651
Yes. SO5 takes place between 2 and 3.
>>344514581
no, ONLY number 3 was in a game made by 4D beings. Never was it said that the characters from 1 and 2 were in a game.
>>344514895
Woah, what's this?
Oh, it's Planet Styx.
The entrance to the four dimensional being's world.
>tri ace became square's code monkeys
>finally give them a chance to their own stuff
>the budget for it is whatever change the executives found in their pocket.
>back to being code monkeys
Suffering, at least Akiman's designs are always lovely.
>>344514895
Here we are again, on the exact same planet in the exact same universe!
>>344515018
SO5 is a beautiful game but it removed pretty much everything that made previous games fun.
I miss the blink mechanic from SO4, and moves that combo into eachother.
>>344512642
I just quit. I was fighting some boss with a tattoo on his face and had him down to 10% life when he lit the entire area on fire and wiped me. Not being able to skip cutscenes is unforgivable in 2016. Good thing I rented it or I would have returned it.
How was Exist Archive received? that looked pretty good.
>>344515223
>Not being able to skip cutscenes
Are you serious, I can't believe they would do this.
>>344515336
Yeah. Can't skip them. Even if you already seen them before.
>>344515409
Guess I'm never getting this game then. I was mildly interested but that is so fucking stupid it boggles the mind.
So from what I'm getting from this thread, they downgraded the combat from SO4.
What reason is there to buy this if not for improved gameplay?
>>344514895
All the games that feature Welch are in the same universe.
She pretty much uses the eternal sphere as her own personal RP server.
>>344515472
You also control the camera yourself in 90% of all cutscenes. And by "control the camera" I mean you can make it revolve around the MC but it will always be pointed directly at him, so it's hard as fuck to actually see what's going on (which is very little except a character animation or two).
Going from SO4's 30 minute space battle cutscenes to SO5 is just... really disgusting. Can't believe they even bothered making this game, to be honest.
>>344515526
There is no reason unless you have too much money and too much time. I play it in spurts of 20-40 minutes a night and while I'm playing I'm just thinking about other videogames the entire time. You can guard, light attack, and strong attack. Guard beats light attack, light attack supposedly beats strong attack (but doesn't because strong attack still goes through it's animation and if you're attacking someone who's doing a strong attack you'll get your shit wrecked) and strong attack beats defending. Two artes, one for x and one for o buttons, and another one for each button at long ranges. The game encourages you to spam the same art over and over because it raises your "cancel bonus".
>>344515409
Christ. How long is the average cutscene?
Apologize to star ocean 4, 'kay?
>>344515971
They are mostly half life style cutscenes, where people are talking and doing stuff but you can still move around.
>>344515971
They aren't super long or anything. So there's that at least.
But most of them is just the characters standing around talking.
>>344515931
>Spam for cancel bonus
Did 4 not have this? Spamming is what was expecting after playing 3.
I was thinking on getting into the first trilogy at least.
Are the Star Ocean PSP remakes good entry points or they ruin everything?
>>344516183
You could at least do combos and stuff in 4.
With Arumat you could do things like Bloodstorm revolution -> aerial gallows -> diabolic edge.
In this game you can equip LESS arts.
>>344516085
Honestly, my biggest complaint about 4 is that no matter what you hit, it felt like you were hitting a sponge or something. No impact at all, combos felt really awkward.
>>344516365
The PSP releases are great. 1 gets updated to look and play just like 2 and 2 is pretty much a direct port from the PS1 with changes to art style and voices.
>>344516431
Oh. I wouldn't know since I haven't played 4
>>344516515
I felt that too in the beginning, but then I got the robot guy, started playing the archer lady, and using arumat's OP symbologies (terra hammer is so fucking good and looks terrifying) and I stopped caring much.
>>344516563
I recommend it. The faces look like barbie dolls and the MC becomes insufferable for a few hours after a certain twist, but I like the plot, you visit 7 different planets and the combat is really fun.
The post game dungeon can fuck off, though.
>>344507048
Yes
>>344510551
my first 2D fap
>>344516598
I was playing as Edge, I usually end up playing the main characters somehow. He just feels like crap though. With Fayt I was throwing out BLADE OF SIDE KICK and other combos it just kinda worked, but Edge's arts felt pretty awkward. I think I stopped playing a bit after they blew up alternate Earth.
>>344515689
>>344516951
EAGERLY awaiting the fanart pics where that staff is jammed into her lower orifices
>>344516951
Is she voiced by Laura Bailey again?
>>344517092
She's voiced by the game is dual audio why would you play the English dub?
>>344516832
>Edge's arts felt pretty awkward.
They're very awkward, I stopped playing as him quickly. He only gets good when he gets raging blast and scintillant stream.
Arumat will renew your faith in the combat. He's an edgemaster but all of his attacks flow well together and the boss fight after his introduction is my favourite in the series, and relying on blink to exploit it's weakness was fun.
Then you get dragon roar after the final boss and... well.
>>344503760
The game obviously suffers from a tiny as fuck budget. Which is weird because Square were showing it off everywhere before it's release.
20 hours in. I don't know how far I am but I am at the point where you fight Der Suul for the first time after Emmerson's ship was blown to bits.
Having a blast the combat and experimenting with synthesis. Graphic and performance are pretty good. 1080p and stable 60fps really do make a difference. I'm also surprised with all the details they put in the design of the town and room. Fuck the quest and their obligatory backtracking tho.
Just watch this for a review.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXDoKgKMVvY
This review is one of the best reviews I've watched. He goes in-depth about the game and it also helps that he is a big Star Ocean fan.
>>344517403
Why does he have a Pokemon TCG case?
>>344517170
Dragon roar and X-claw are broken as fuck.
Why did they put that in the game.
how's this game? i've never played star ocean before. i like jrpgs but have very low tolerance for SJW bullshit. not even blatant censorship but shit like xenoblade x (alex jones parody shooting aliens, force girl to let aliens into her store, etc)
is it just a fun jrpg or does it have any political shit jammed in?
>>344517491
2 cases actually.
>>344517457
He gets all the combat problems down pat but doesn't address the millions of other issues. Camera related mostly. Why the fuck did they decide that you have to control the camera at all times even in cutscenes? If they were going to do that they could at least unlock the fucking thing from the main character during cutscenes. Jesus christ.
>>344517506
I blinked behind Ashley and wound up doing an infinite dragon roar combo and got to about 50 dragon roars before he died. I love broken shit like that though.
>>344517403
Tri-Ace dating sim when?
What does the difficulty change?
Does easy mode just reduce enemy health and damage?
I never usually play easy but I'm not enjoying this combat at all so I wouldn't mind speeding up the game in this case.
Biggest problem with Star Ocean 5 is the story. It is literally what you'd expect from the first chapter in another Star Ocean game, but that is the full game.
Imagine playing Star Ocean 2, at the beginning you have to save Rena because some dude kidnaps and wants to marry her. Imagine once you saved her the game ended and that was it all over.
That is literally Star Ocean 5s plot. Someone gets kidnapped and you save her, end of game.
Why aren't I saving the planet, where is the obligatory plot twist where it turns out the universe isn't as it seems, why was I stuck on one tiny planet? Why doesn't it have any of the things that make a Star Ocean game a Star Ocean game?
Game feels half baked as fuck and I'm not even getting into all the tiny issues the game has like a shitty camera and so on,
>>344517403
what was she for anyway? she was in multiple towns and then just stopped appearing IIRC
>>344517637
When Infinite Undiscovery 2 happens.
>>344517589
getting some pretty heavy Estelle vibes from that bartender
>>344517571
If you want a JRPG on the PS4 get either Digimon Cyber Sleuth or Atelier Sophie. Both are vastly superior games that'll last you a lot longer.
I really wish the "cutscenes" weren't so awkward. Can't do anything besides walk around really slowly anyway. Would have preferred actual scenes so I could get a better look at the characters and their interactions with each other.
>>344517637
SO4 director already tried to propose one. Got flat out rejected by the producer.
SO4 port when?
Seriously, I would love to play this again in higher resolution and combat graphics similar to the bullshots.
>>344517748
>digimon
the last one i played was digimon world ds or something and that game triggered the shit out of me
>spend hours evolving my cool ice dude into a cool ice walrus
>he evolves
>i need to devolve him then train him again to get him to his next phase
just
>>344517796
Link/Source?
>>344517796
What a shame.
>>344517818
Cyber Sleuth uses a similar system, but it doesn't take very long at all to level up and you don't need to do it frequently.
>>344517571
> i like jrpgs but have very low tolerance for SJW bullshit.
This game is only good for panty shots because every girl has modeled underwear that you can see.
>>344517982
>they censored miki's panties into wider baggier grandma ones
literally jumped the gun, nobody was going to notice it or even care for a low profile release such as this. it would've at least been a slightly better game for us star ocean fans if they had left it unaltered
>>344517982more please
>>344517701
I haven't beat the game yet. Last time I found her was in Central Resulia before the war.
That being said, NPC interaction in this game is a fucking nightmare.
>Constantly walk around
>Some doesn't even have a dialogue
>Accidentally stumble them will make the dialogue dissapear
>Dialogues only appear within less than 3 sec, regardless of the length
>>344517904
i'll prob check it out. maybe it was because i was 14 at the time but after that ice walrus scandal i pretty much gave up on it. otherwise i remember it being fun
>>344518142
childhood friends are for love, not sexual.
>>344518142
>>344518146
They can't stop me from getting an erection no matter how hard they try.
>>344518214
fine by me, i almost convinced myself that those stupid ear cozies she wears were hiding alien features that would be part of a storyline twist later on in the game to explain why she looks so fucking fetal alchohol syndromey
2 and 4 did it right by showcasing different races - star trek is supposed to be the huge homage point in this series but they barely play to that series' strengths with more than some of the games
>>344518303
You just can't beat the cock.
>>344517728
Coincidentally, Estelle's english VA voiced Miki in this game.
That being said, her waving is pretty cute in here. It's a nice touch to see different Inn keeper act differently when you're checking out of the inn.
>>344509186
It's pretty irredeemable
>>344510213
No, 3 is like always.
>>344514415
>when the entire battle system is spamming one single attack over and over because that's all you can equip
4. You can equip 4 skill attacks.
>>344517982
I haven't managed to see Relia's.
>>344518483
No it has it's strengths, like the colour palette and world design looks good...
and that's just about it for the pros.
>>344518524
The previous game had 6 and two passives. Also two of those skills can only be used long range, reducing the number to 2 if you're melee, and 2 if you're a caster or long range fighter like the bowman who's crossbow is actually a gun.
On top of that, strong attack beats defence AND light attacks because even if light attacks technically 'beat' yours, you still finish your strong attack animation anyway. And why would you use light attacks to "vary" things up if using the stronger option over and over is just better?
It's bad.
I know nothing about this game but I want to compliment the MC'S jacket design. It's really cool.
>>344518526
This was her underwear. If you look up her skirt this is what she wears.
>>344518742
>12 years old
america aged her up didnt they, cause thats some fucking BS
come to think of it didnt they do that with retard 'KAY Lymle from 4?
So is there going to be a PC version or not?
huh
my first impulse was to type "i hope not"
it's kind of depressing that as a pc faggot turned poorfag i am now hoping games don't release on PC so that i have more ps4 exclusives to use to defend my cheap PC
>>344518942
it's a Square Enix game so it's pretty much guaranteed to come.
>>344517653
Please respond.
My faith in /v/ has been renewed with this thread and seeing so many people say SO2 was best SO game, and the amount of people saying it was an amazing game. I would've expected you guys to love 3 the most, I'm pleasantly surprised.
>>344517403
I'm way ahead of you and I still haven't discovered Synthesis. I dunno what the fuck I'm doing wrong.
>>344518670
Pretty sure you could hit someone charging up a strong attack and still have enough time to dodge afterwards, that is probably the intention.
>>344519495
Are you saying it's a BAD thing to like 3?
>>344519495
I can't deal with SO3's artstyle, everyone looks like a creepy bugged eyed creature from 90's anime.
>>344519495
SO2, FF7 & Legend of Legaia are my top 3 for extremely pleasant and personal childhood memory based reasons
I'm enjoying the game so far despite some of the issues but two things are driving me crazy so far.
First the scenes where everyone's talking around a save point and the save is inaccessible until you move two rooms ahead to end the scene and have to fucking back track to save. Why not just put the save point past the conversation trigger.
Second why the fuck give us fast travel then take it away literally 10 mins later. I assume we get it back but like "here's fast travel but never mind need to find the research center, oops let me get that back from you"
>>344519896
>fast travel then take it away literally 10 mins later. I assume we get it back but like "here's fast travel but never mind need to find the research center, oops let me get that back from you"
This happens a lot in Tales of Zestiria usually because devs are forcing you a single path to trigger a cutscene.
>>344519495
>I would've expected you guys to love 3 the most
...what? why?
>>344518670
>The previous game had 6 and two passives.
No, because of the forced sequiential bullshit, the previous game had 2
In those trees, you can't use move 2 without using move 1 first and you can't use move 3 without using move 2 first, so at any given time you only have access to 2 moves.
The Long/Short system isn't good, but it's better than that bullshit.
Also the strong/weak/guard systems from 3 and 5 are better than Blindsides because Blindsides are completely fucking worthless in all but two fights in the game (where they're a forced mechanic). At least you can use Star Guard in to make guarding worth it in the other system
>>344518358
>>344519635
Liking 3 isn't bad, just 2 is better and only people that absolutely have to have 3d and VA's like it more.
>>344520641
Mostly /v/'s fascination with graphics and framerate over everything else.
>>344521085
Yeah. I liked 3. But 2 was better. Nothing wrong with that.
>PA with Emerson
>He says he can't take his eyes off Fiore
>Attempting to be coy, I respond that her signets (which are located on her inner thigh) are certainly something else
>He responds that I'm dense and must not know what he's talking about
You're the dense one here captain
>>344508897
>Anne is married to Emmerson
You sure about that?
It's mentioned once in one private action and never again anywhere else in game, including their character bios.
They're listed as having different last names and everything.
I just assumed it was their cover story before you found out they're from space.
>>344519495
Hasn't it already been established multiple times that SO2 was the best in the series and everything else is just personal preference?
Can someone who played tell me if the title "Integrity & Faithlessness" actually meant something to the story?
>>344510297
That's not just a problem with SOV though. Nearly every JRPG is like that.
>>344521364
Everything I have seen suggests that they like each other, but clearly are not in a relationship.
>>344514895
Nope same universe, shows a video of the SRF battle scene in space during a cutscene
>>344521643
Nope, even the Relia 4D skills makes fun of the subtitle.
>>344521643
Magic runes + Earth technology = 2000 years of progress instantly. A big bad general accomplished it by creating artificial beings, then continuing to use them for their powers. You find one, then constantly have to re-save her.
How to fix the game:
Skills no longer have super armor automatically, instead if you successfully guard, your next attack gets super armor.
They burrow a page from Tales and increase the number of skills you have access to at any time by changing the control scheme
For instance: Move character swapping off the d-pad and onto R-2 and L-2. Also manual/auto control swap could be click both stick at once because you almost never use that functionality anyway. This frees the d-pad for 4 more moves mapped to it for quick use.
Remove canceling a skill into itself.
Why does the real time combat feel so fucking stiff and inefficient? Am I doing something wrong? This seems to be a problem in both 4 and 5, I can't speak for the older games, but it seems so much less fluid than, say, the combat in the Ys or Tales games.
Maybe it's just me, I dunno.
>>344523862
Because you are limited to 2 attacks per normal
>>344523862
It's probably because your character will only execute attacks when a certain distance from the enemy.
So if you press attack, but aren't quite in the game mandated position to use the attack, your character will first move into position and then act.
This isn't a problem with ranged attacks, so try playing as Emmerson and see if you like it better.
Or just try playing with the Fog status on your character
>>344524087
It's not even that, really, it just feels kind of sluggish, like there's some kind of uncanny delay between button input and response. Admittedly I've only started playing with the first couple of characters, whilst the the hand-to-hand characters in both games look faster and more responsive. Maybe I'm imagining things.
>>344524190
>It's probably because your character will only execute attacks when a certain distance from the enemy.
Yeah, that definitely seems to be part of it. Also in 4, the jump move doesn't seem to be as responsive as it needs to be. Is it not supposed to be an evasive mechanic? I'm not sure what I'm supposed to use it for otherwise.
I'll give them both another go in a bit, thanks for the suggestions.
