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Tenmyouji was right
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Where does Zero come from in Q-End 2 he just appears for Q to point at him
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>>344489721
He must be so disappointed in his younger self.
>lel let's just shift to the perfect timeline like selfish pricks
Worse than Alice and Clover combined.
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>>344490049
>not getting the twist
bro he was there the entire game and everyone knows but you
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>>344489721
Technically he is wrong though. Nobody is happy. They shift to a world where all 8 billion are dead.
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Would you go to an Escape Room based on Zero Escape?
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>>344490704
Yes.
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>>344490704
You talking about the stuff in LA? Yeah but I'm nowhere near it.
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>>344489721
Agreed
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>>344489721
>world were
Typos will always make me mad.
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>>344489721
>cuck
>right
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>>344490801

>tfw was too busy during AX to try this
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>>344490049
Off-camera
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>>344490801
I don't want to get mind hacked irl bro
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>>344490856
Pretty sure he says it correctly though.

ZTD had an awful mistake if I recall in both the text and VA. It's during the route where Phi is in the incinerator and Sigma is strapped to the chair with the gun to his head. If you remember, the gun can be loaded with 6 cartridges. Three of them are blanks and the other three are real so he has a 50% chance of living. I'm pretty sure Zero says that Sigma has a 6 in 3 chance of living which is wrong. It should be 3 in 6. Such a trivial mistake. I hope I am remembering it wrong. It would be nice if someone can confirm me on this.
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>>344490229
>>344491151
Alright, how does everyone know Sean's name after the initial reveal in another timeline?

Why does Carlos try to rape Akane?
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>>344490049
He was there all along, first they push the wheelchair in the right position and then they start acting
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>>344491404
>Why does Carlos try to rape Akane?
If you played that route through then you know what he was actually trying to do.
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>>344491404
Play the game and read the files dude.
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>>344491370
You are correct
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>>344491370
I remember this too and I got confused for a second before realizing they fucked up.
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>>344489721
>>344490816
Tenmyouji was underrated as hell

>She's not anywhere
Almost teared up.

Tbh as much as ZTD was kind of a clusterfuck I'm more sad that Uchikoshi's wild ride is over. ZTD definitely has a lot of issues and isn't the conclusion I wanted but even if it was I'd still be sad I'll never get to see Luna and Snake and Phi ever again.

And for all of ZTD's fuckups it still had some great moments. I'm gonna miss Carlos and Sean and even fuckin Eric and Diana single-handedly ending the world and blowong up the shelter because she pushed a button that said DO NOT PUSH

The ride's over and I'm gonna miss it Anons
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>>344491641
God damn it. I was hoping I was misremembered. How did they fuck that up.
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>>344491717
Life is truly unfair.
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>>344491404
The Sean thing was super confusing too but what I got from it was that earlier in that route when he connected to the supercomputer and fuzzed out the camera and explained everything to Eric and Mira he told them his name and we just didn't see it

Nobody else in the shelter even knows Sean exists until then besides them
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I bought VLR a month or so ago for 3DS but haven't played it yet, should I change it to the Vita version? Seems like ZTD's Vita version is clearly better, and 999 might get it's own Vita version too so everything on 1 platform would be neat. What do you guys think?
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>>344490801
>Buy up abandoned areas in Detroit
>set up escape games there
>Kill(Read Rob) the ones who are voted out
>White people will praise it as a good experience and Jamal and his 15 kids can afford to eat a Big Mac a day for a year again.
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>>344491896
>earlier in that route when he connected to the supercomputer and fuzzed out the camera and explained everything to Eric and Mira he told them his name
Doesn't explain how they know his name in all the other timelines. He probably told them before the very first vote. We just conveniently never see him do it, just like him asking Eric and Mira about old man Q.
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So Eric is his own father and Mira kills her older self based on the epilogue files right?
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>>344492039
Vita is fine, though I'd recommend steam more
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>>344492039
Where 999 is being ported to isn't confirmed. PC seems likely but I don't think that it's official. Heard nothing about the Vita.

As for playing VLR on 3DS or Vita. That's your choice. 3DS version is nice with the dual screens but there is the rare glitch that can fuck up your game. The 3DS version of ZTD is like a step back.
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>>344491896
He tells them as soon as they wake up for the vote, we just don't get to see it.
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>>344492773
>there is the rare glitch that can fuck up your game

what's that all about?
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The ZE series ends without Akane and Junpei kissing onscreen, even though they do end up together
Fucking Uchikoshi couldn't help but be Japanese just for one instance
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>>344492039

3DS
>dual screens
>a touchscreen/pen for precision
>you can actually take notes with the pen
>worst looking version by far
>sub 30 framerate
>terrible audio
>portable and comfy

Vita
>larger screen than the 3DS
>can't take notes with your fingers but you can take screenshots
>higher resolution
>30 fps and relatively stable
>touch screen smugggeees
>fingers+touchscreen+tiny objects = bombs exploding
>portable and comfy

PC
>best looking
>60fps
>best sound quality
>mouse>pen>fingers
>not portable or comfy

I got the Vita and the PC version and ended up completing it on the Vita because I could play it in bed or on the sofa. The lack of pen on the Vita really is a bummer with a lot of the puzzles.
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>>344493480
Saving in the PEC or Crew Quarters corrupts your save.
Apparently it has a small chance to happen in any puzzle room, though.
Worst I've gotten is my game crashing when I saved in the Archives.
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>>344493480
don't save inside a puzzle room
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>>344493624
>>344492039

Disregard the part about PC, everything else is applicable though.
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>>344493663
The game loves to crash in the PEC regardless. I even got a crash in the archives doing the dumb dice puzzle.

No corruptions though since I only saved outside of puzzle rooms
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>>344493663
It happened to me and it happened to a lot of people because no-one is googling "Zero Escape" while playing the game or hanging out in threads due to spoilers. It could have easily happened to me this time around with ZTD if such a bug existed.
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>>344493480
Just that. It is a glitch that isn't really well understood. It occurs most often in the PEC room during the escape portion. Basically the room is prone to crashing. If you happen to save and the game decides to crash, you're (only) save is fucked.

That said, I have played VLR twice and saved constantly everywhere. I have never had the glitch happen to me.

If you are paranoid, there are ways to protect yourself against the glitch. The easiest thing to do is to avoid saving in escape rooms. If you have a 3DS that can run CFW, someone made an app that automatically backs up your save for carts or digital. If you get corrupted, it's easy to restore your save. Pretty nice option.
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>>344489721
>Are people who struggle for a better life just idiots?
Yes.
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>>344493980
>It could have easily happened to me this time around with ZTD if such a bug existed
But with there are 3 saves in ZTD. If there was a bug, you can at least spread your save across the files. With VLR, that option doesn't exist within the game.

No bugs in ZTD that I know about though.
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>>344493618

What is it with Japanese people and their absolute aversion to any sort of showing of affection on screen? I remember feeling the same when I played FF8 and got to the part where Squall almost kills himself to save Rinoa and basically realizes he loves her, then when they survive and get on the space station it's the same awkward juvenile "I d-don't really like you girls are icky."
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>>344493663
>You will never pair up with K in the AB Game again

It hurts
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>>344493624
>sub 30 framerate

This will do it for me alone, I can't fucking stand 3DS games having shitty performance, which is practically all the time, and nobody bats a fucking eyelash.
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>>344491370
I forget where, but they also say something like 1:2 chances when they mean 1/2 chances.
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How many times did it take you guys to get three 1's on the dice roll?
Just curious on what the statistics really are
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>>344496013
It took me three tries
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>>344496013
It always gives you three 1s on the third try, sorry to burst your bubble.
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>>344494202
You can backup saves even without CFW. There's an option in the settings.
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>>344493624
Forgot that with Vita and 3ds you get a physical copy.

That's what clenched the vita version for me, needed to round out my physical collection.
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>>344496607
Yes, true. That is a valid way of going about it.

However, the app makes it piss easy. Once it is installed, all you have to do is launch VLR for both backing up or restoring saves. It doesn't get easier than that.
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>>344496013
I was at it for 6 hours dude
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>>344496013
Took 3 tries for me. Not surprising. No one would sit there and replay that 200+ times
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>>344496013
Got it first go, not even kidding
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>>344490816
>>344489721
>mfw Tenmyouji was a better character than ZTD Junpei

What went wrong?
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>>344491592
>>344491641
Pic.
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>>344492106
Go back to sleep, Gordain.
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>>344498291
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>>344494641
It's considered rude in public but I've seen kissing scenes on Japanese TV before. So, I donno.
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>>344498291
bruh
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHCxdlZ7G18
Life is simply unfair, all because of a single solitary snail.
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>>344496013
Has anyone tried doing it in real life? Took me three hours before I got them.
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>tfw D team didn't get an epilogue
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>>344499242
top kek
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that feel when you pick the wrong locker despite the 90% odds
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>>344499116
>Orange hue around eyes
It's called makeup.
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>you come home from a long day of work
>you decide to take a nice bath once you get home
>you open the door to find carlos lounging your living room couch
>he says "i think this is a misunderstanding"
what do
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>3ds version is late shipping so i had to pirate the PC version in order to play it
>audio would just cut out every 5 minutes
>had to minimize the game and reopen hundreds of times

literally no winning
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>>344499116
Phi a cute still
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>>344494202

people talk about this glitch on the 3ds version all the time, but when I played using the copy I got off amazon, the save button was greyed out for the entirety of the PEC room

shits been patched
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>>344500979
>hey guys i found a glitch in the game
>for some reason the save button is greyed out for the entirety of the PEC room
>is there a fix to this?
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>>344500979
Yeah, I've heard about that for the physical version of VLR. Looks like there exists at least 2 physical versions of the game out there for the 3DS.

Something like that would be piss easy to roll out in new physical versions since it's a pretty minor change. Still a shame they have no idea what the fuck causes it.
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>>344499116
I know people called the whole Papa Sigma and Mama Diana thing before release, but that whole sequence that lead up to the reveal was just heartbreaking.
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>>344498291
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Is it possible to get three 1s on the dice roll normally or is it rigged? I mean it's only 1/216, someone that played the game had to have gotten it before three tries.
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>akane junpei getting married

YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>344501445
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>>344496718
same, hope 999 is physical on Vita too. I'll play it again for the easy plat.
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>>344501735
I did, see >>344497580
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>>344490801
> tfw there would be no escape room where you're strapped down to a chair while a qt grill fondles your junk looking for clues
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Phi is a champion in VLR for willing to cater to old man Sigma's swimsuit obsession.
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It's really a shame the characters didn't get very developed in this one, Sean was super great and had a lot of potential.
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>>344501814
Niggas denied it would happen but my boy itchytushie pulled through
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>>344490801
>>344490704
>mfw i went to one of these with my friends and we literally didnt even solve 10% of the room before running out of time

also, i hope uchikoshi releases a light novel explaining how they stop the religious fanatic
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>>344501967
>tfw your dad wants to ogle you in a swimsuit
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I don't know why, but Zero Escape remind me about a manga called Psyren.
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>>344502024
Better shift back to the point where you can try again.
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>>344500901
If I was a girl I'd totally husbando Carlos.
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>>344502179
>Psyren follows Ageha Yoshina, a high school student who is chosen by Nemesis Q as a participant in the Psyren games. The games take place in a world known initially as Psyren, which is revealed to be the real world a decade in the future. Ageha and his friends attempt to alter the future and save the world from becoming Psyren.
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>>344502179
>Psyren.
is it good?
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>>344493663
This caused me to not finish the game for 3 years. Got pretty far in only to have my save be corrupted. Didnt want to go back since i couldnt skip all the useless shit. And I didnt want to go back through all that.
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>>344502179
I read this shit forever ago. it was fucking amazing should have gotten a decent anime adaptation
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>>344496013
Its three times for everyone. Anyone that says otherwise is lying. Akane even mentions it specifically "What if we did it three times?" And gives the odds for it.
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>>344502475
I read 8 volumes and stopped for no reason, but it was pretty fun.

Feels like somekind of Gantz with psychic people and complex powers. Don't know why never got any anime adaptation, it's from the Weekly Shonen Jump.
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>>344500901
I'd tell him to seek a way into my boi pussi
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>>344502728
>complex powers
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So why was everyone cool with Mira in the end if they knew she was a psychotic killer from the memories of the other timelines?
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>>344491896
>>344492256
It's not as confusing as it seems. When Sean and Zero are discussing who Sean was based on in the Reality fragment, the exact wording in response to "Who was he?" was "He was called Sean... The same name as you." We assumed he was learning that his name was Sean because we thought he was calling himself Q, but if you reread it, Zero is simply stating that the boy shared his name, which he already knew. Q team presumably knew his name was Sean from the beginning too.
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>>344503034
>either deal with the serial killer that has killed a couple of you in a few timelines
>or deal with the smug mind hacker in front of you who forced your friends into a deadly game in every timeline
Delta just had a higher priority. I'm sure they addressed the awkward question later.
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Inside this spoiler there is a cat. Since you can't observe or measure it from the outside, it is both alive and dead at the same time. If you observe what is inside of this spoiler, the cat will either be alive or dead with a probability of 50% for each. The cat has done nothing wrong and it's contained in a pretty tight spoiler with little space.

What will you do?
>Free an innocent feline
or
>Kill the cat on the spot?
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>>344494641
I recall Sigma and Diana showing a hell of a lot of affection in one timeline.
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>>344503505
nice, i got alive kitty
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>>344503505
>Nyakane became Schrodinger's Cat
neat
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>>344500901
I bet it's a misunderstanding alright *unzips pants and submit myself to him*
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>>344503505
Wew. My cat's alive.
I probably would have killed myself if I opened it up and it was dead.
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>>344503505
Good, got a dead one.
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>>344502214

what did he mean by this
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>>344503505
No, for real I...!
My finger just...
It wasn't me!
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>>344501924
I'm all there is anon. Present them in my hand.

The clues I mean you sick fuck
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>>344496013
The gunshot was worse. I think it took me six tries to get a blank.
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>>344498291
Now put a skateboard under him, upside down, like he just pulled a sweet kickflip
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>>344504042
I was opposite.
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>mfw 1/10 people got trolled by the monty hall lockers
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>Q Team's Epliogue
Ok, what the fuck. Why would they even propose to change history and create a timeline branch where Mira never murders the woman? Doesn't that prevent anything from ZTD from even happening in that history?
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>>344504505
I am that 1/10 person. I was and still am fucking pissed.
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>>344504468
>Make braindead puzzles and give the game a terrible art style to appeal to westerners
>It's still too hard for them
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>>344504468
That person is just lazy. Most of the puzzles in the ZE series don't throw you for a loop.
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>>344504468
If there's anything to NOT complain about in ZTD, it's the logic used in the puzzle rooms.
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>>344503875
Huh, I guess the whole termite analogy went nowhere after all.
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>>344504468
>Would be a great game without the game.
wew
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>>344504468
I had a hard time understanding a word he's saying.
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>>344504468
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>>344489721
Too bad that despite the shit Tenmyouji says he still caved just for a chance at seeing Akane again after like 70 years, and then ended up old and miserable making a living salvaging garbage and spanking it to dirty magazines.
Meanwhile ZTD Junpei SHIFTed, got over the ethical shit, and got to marry Akane and pound her 10/10 booty all night every night in a timeline with no apocalypse.
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>>344504837
What do you mean? He was creating an analogy between the structures termites build and the "structures" humans build when they make decisions. Hence you get that tree in the timeline flowchart.
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>>344504468
All of them were pretty easy except for the Transporter one.

Then again, I'm bad at math.
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Threadly reminder that Eric did nothing wrong.
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>>344505040
>>344504468

Modern gaming, everyone.
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If you were Eric and didn't know anything about VLR and 999, would you believe all that bullshit about morphogenetic fields?
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>>344504662
>terrible art style
It was better than the last games though, but the 3D models were shit but I can get behind them.
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>>344505134
>Eric did nothing wrong
He was a huge cuck. Mira felt nothing for him.
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>>344505251
Diana was fine with Sigma's consciousness coming from 2074. She even fucked him later.
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>>344505254
Nah
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>>344505107
Diana even spells out the answer for you if you click enough times.

>>344505098
Oh yeah, I get that part. I was expecting another Blick Winkel when he made that analogy.
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>>344490704
Yes. I went to an Escape Room in Calgary that was easy as piss, I'd love one that's actually difficult.
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>>344505107
The transporter puzzle doesn't require math at all besides from multiplying the floating numbers. You can figure out everything with logic.
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>>344502189
PUSH THE BUTTON
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>>344505251
Fuck no. This damn brat is bullshitting me, these people are fucking crazy, and my ANGEL is DEAD.
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>>344505254
I thought the art and models were fine for what they were. The lip-sink sucked though.

At the end of it all, I still enjoyed 999 sprites the most. Granted they weren't special but they just appeal to me more. Can't say exactly why.
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>>344504598
She goes back in time and creates another branch. It doesn't affect the branch they were on.
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>>344505717
The sprites are something I enjoyed too, and I like pixels.
Like I said I can get behind this game's terrible models and animating but it made this game looked like it had an obviously low budget.
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>>344505134
What was the point of him being in the game even?
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>>344489721
Tenmyoldy was best Junpei by far
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>>344505875
So then in theory, all of the events seen in VLR will happen because those are all branches. However, the characters are effectively able to choose which branch they want to live in via SHIFTing.
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>>344506015
Relatively normal guy (as in, not an esper), person out of the loop, casualty of the original timeline.
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>>344505875
Yeah but what I'm saying is in that new branch they're creating none of the events of ZTD would ever happen.
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>>344506015
He wanted shotgun.
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>>344506525
Pirate it if you want it so badly.
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>>344500901
I'd invite Grumpy Jumpy to the party
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>>344498291
>How do you do, fellow kids?

>>344505251
I would, simply because the probability of me, a random ice cream shop clerk, getting kidnapped in a facility full of death traps is so unlikely that I'd buy anything
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>>344506754
Grandpa! I never saw this side of you!
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>>344506015
COMPLEXMOTIVES
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>>344506754
I'm starting to like this pairing now
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>>344506868
TELL ME ABOUT QUARK
WHAT DOES HE HIDE IN HIS HAT?
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>>344507012
snacks
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>>344505251
By that point I'd have seen a quantum computer, an alien teleportation device, and myself somehow managing to date a really hot slut so I'd be ready to believe just about anything.
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>>344507012
>>344507125
Grandpa's "video" collection
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>>344507012
Rockets
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>>344507012
Missiles.
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>>344506420
Mira killed his mom. Other than that I dont know. I guess they needed new people for a team they could put Delta on. We probably would have been more pissed if Q was on D or C team and they didnt notice anything until that far in. Q team was the only team they could pull their bullshit off camera stuff.
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>>344507012
A brain tumor
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>>344506502
Yes, and? The events still occur in other timelines, Phi and Delta still exist in timelines that don't result in their birth because the transporter can travel through time.
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Anyone else burst out laughing here?
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>>344507276
They needed someone to scoop ice cream at DCOM. Duh.

I'm happier that there wasn't a chicken sandwich stand.
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so..

>eric's mom walks down different path because snail
>gets killed by mira
>akane's dad is arrested for it
>his cab driver takes surgeon about to work on sean
>sean dies, akane's mom an heros, eric's dad kills chris eventually
>delta is sad about sean so he makes the robots

Anything I missed? Is Sean the younger brother of Brother mentioned in VLR?
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>>344507479
But that new timeline would have a future nuclear terrorist wiping out humanity without a team of 9 individuals capable of utilizing the power of friendship to stop him.
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>>344506015
I mean, he's part of the experiment because Mira wanted to join. They are probably the only people who are in the experiment to begin with, so he got into this mess without a good reason.
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>>344507624
I burst out laughing at a lot of ZTD. Mostly the quick cuts to characters facial expression reactions.
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>>344507631
Brother's brother(Left) in VLR was the son of the family who raised him. Sean was just a genius kid he met at the hospital that he liked
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>>344507624
I gave a chuckle. I mean, Carlos' response is justified.
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>>344507624
I know I was
Junpei is a cunt
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>>344507624
Yes. Carlos has so many amazing reactions to being told horrible news.
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>>344507624
C team best team
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>>344507821
Sean could also access the morphogenetic field like Carlos' sister could. Delta says he'd give Sean books in exchange for information about other timelines.
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>>344507658
We're talking about the snail that changed the world here, it's not hard to believe that the waves created by altering that event causes the terrorist to never emerge, but even if he does, shifters will still be around to eventually find a timeline that stops him. Mira already knows about it and can form a team ahead of time.
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how are you able to choose seans decisions even though Delta cant Mind hack him?
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>Phi was the Snake/Quark of ZTD

feels bad man
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>>344508264
Regular hacking.
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>>344508379
>Those
>C CUPS
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>>344508379
Damn. Was Phi's skirt really that short?
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>>344508264
He's a fucking computer than Delta controls.
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>>344508379
I wished they made more scenarios until nobody is left in the shelter. I would have liked to see Phi coping being the sole survivor or what Akane actually did after leaving the X-Door.
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>>344508379
>Phi was the Snake/Quark of ZTD
What did you mean by this?
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>>344508882
dead/missing a lot of the time and used as a plot device
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>>344492539
Yes, it's all easily explained in Eric's theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYlJH81dSiw
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>>344500903
I had a weird audio glitch too but it didn't happen that often, maybe once every 10 scenes. At some point the text and audio would stop and the characters would keep replaying the last animation they were doing.

It was easily fixed by opening and closing the menu though, which got the scene to continue playing
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>>344507573
We need a version of this where instead of "DO NOT PRESS THIS BUTTON" it says "SHOW SPOILER"
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What does the anagram message mean?
It's not for fanatic bio r right?
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somehow I just can't see ZTD as long-winded Zero II
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>mira and eric dont have any special abilities
>being around a bunch of shifters allows them to eventually shift too
>q is with them the whole game and still never becomes a shifter
Life is simply unfair.
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>>344510601
Pretty sure it's telling you to pay attention to the anagram when they explain what it really means.
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>>344510825
*ZTD Sigma
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10 months
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WHO WAS THE FUCKER WHO EMITTED THE THEORY THAT DIANA AND SIGMA WERE PARENTS OF PHI HOLY FUCK


besides that it was a good game but too many fuck ups
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How do I best experience the game?

Do I stick with one team until I complete all available fragments? Or do I switch to another team after I finish one fragment from another team?
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>>344511750
you kill eric at all possible opportunities
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>>344511750
Play it in any order. Finish everything you can in a fragment before jump to next.
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>>344511750

phi is sigma and dianas kid

delta is zero, phis brother
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>>344511750
I did all I could for one team before moving on. I guess it doesn't really matter though. It's all fragmented anyway.
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reminder
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So Aoi was cool with his sister going alone into a deathtrap of a facility? Is he on Rhizome 9? Why was he cucked out of existence so hard?
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>>344512068
>nothing about Sean's Good End node being yellow while all of the other Q nodes are green
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>>344489721
Delta did nothing wrong
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>>344512068
Ever17 spoilers When I started writing down all the X-passes I came across, I took note of Q's passes and actually thought at one point that Blick Winkel would be involved with Q's existence. Or a very similar thing to Blick Winkel at least. "EYE" (-I-), "SELF", "AGE" (wasn't as sure about this one), "BRO" (Onii-chan, as Coco calls him)... yea okay, this was never really going to be true, since the Infinity series is separate from Zero Escape in the end. My love for E17 is too strong.

Of course it doesn't help that ??? was dropped entirely. That just sucks.
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>>344497965
Isn't he just saying it like '3 to 1 odds'?
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I got extremely stuck at one point in the game and couldn't figure out how to unlock the next fragment

I thought I already tried letting the clock out when Eric wants to know who killed Mira

Was I the only one?
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>>344503505
Clicked before reading. Cat is dead. I regret nothing.
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>>344514174
And when I say Q, I mean Sean
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>>344514454
same, I got really annoyed

fragments make it a pain in the ass to find out where you need to go to for different story locks
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>>344514454
Nope, got stuck on the same thing. Except I just assumed he would shoot you regardless if you didn't have an answer for him. I thought the game wanted you to figure out who killed Mira.
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>think Delta is actually Eric so that Eric ends up being relevant to the plot
>get to the "WHO IS ZERO" question
>input "you"
>Eric freaks out and shoots people
>input "Delta", thinking it must want that specific name to make Eric reveal himself or that maybe he had memory loss from self-administered drugs
>Sean turns and points to the camera
>Eric remains just Eric

I had expectations
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>>344490704
I did that one. Was good. Had some slight technical difficulties but a creative GM got us through that. Also my group caused everyone to die in the last 30 seconds.
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>>344514654
>>344514623
It was fun seeing all the different dialogues Eric had though

I think that was when I clued in to there being 4 people on Q team
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I know I'm asking for trouble here since I haven't finished the game, but when the fuck do I get any significant info about what's going on? At least in the previous games I felt like I was getting somewhere after doing a puzzle room. Here its like I'm plodding along, doing room after room and getting nowhere, plot-wise.
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>Alice and Clover didn't Schrodinger's Cat their way into the story
>weren't even fucking mentioned

THANK YOU BASED UCHI
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>no secret ending where Seven crawls in through the air vents and saves everyone
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>>344515230
I thought I spoiled myself in the days leading up to the release. All on different days I noticed 3 different threads in the catalog with Seven as OP's picture.

Happy he never showed up for that reason
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>the 18 inches Sigma wasn't a meme

based Uchikoshi
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>>344514835
>>think Delta is actually Eric so that Eric ends up being relevant to the plot

Yup, thought the exact same thing after that fragment with Zero saying that he's dead in the current timeline (timeline where all of Q-team is dead). Thought Eric would be it, and that was an exciting idea actually. It fired me up. Didn't except it, and it would've made him a much more interesting character all of a sudden. I started thinking more about the backstory he told earlier.

But no. Got mindhacking old man with complex motives.
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Black bar general and all but I'm barely starting the game kind of, maybe like 10 hours in doing C team stuff.

Can anyone explain why Junpei is so fucking cold and like almost seemingly nihilistic now?

He said he joined a detective agency, I read in one of those scenes but he also seems to harbor some animosity towards akane too?

What's going on, without too much spoilers please. Unless it is some huge twist, in that case nevermind, I'll carry along with highly uncharacteristic Junpei. it just fucks my mind that this is the same guy from 999??
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So why didn't Sigma/Diana/Phi get an after story cinema?
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>>344515637
He's Grumpy Jumpy now
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>>344515637
you will get spoiled, i kinda felt the same way just play the fucking game
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>>344515637
He explains it later, just play the fucking game. Might as well ask why Zero II is running this decision game, but no spoilers please.
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>>344514454
I actually just answered 'dunno' on my first go. I was pretty impressed that it worked.
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So why did zero shoot Gab before the jump/don't jump scene? What was the point in that. He said he'd done two good things but I don't get the point of this as one of them.
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>>344515874
Because he has Complex motives
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anyone else think that actually getting married in the end kinda ruined the significance of their story? I thought it worked best when they both had feelings for the other but due to the necessities of Akane's plans, they can never make it work. Compared to Tenmyouji quietly saying his Akane isn't anywhere, the scenes in ZTD just feel saccharine and ill-fitting.
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>>344515637
iirc the end of 999 had Akane push him away and that hurt him. He's a bit bitter and the world hasn't treat him well. The same Jumpy is in there though, he'll peek through from time to time
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>>344515952
Complex motives
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>>344515952
I think it's so that nobody would go full retard and say "w-we can't leave Gab behind"
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>>344515952
'Cause no one liked that piece of shit annoying ass of a dog? Old fucker got what was coming to him, good riddance.
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>>344515952
So they wouldnt feel bad about jumping and leaving him to die. Delta wanted them to jump so he took away a reason to stay

COMPLEX
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>>344515637
Because akane made him commit sudoku
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>>344515982
>>344515874
>>344515774

Thanks. I'll bear with it confused until the game reveals it.
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>we will never get to see any of Grumpy Jumpy's detective adventures with Seven

life is simply unfair
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>>344516404
Thats how youre supposed to play every ZE game
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>>344503505
i have spoilers turned off nice dead cat idiot
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>>344503505
>replies are previous SHIFTs
Woah...
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>>344504505
I got reverse trolled because I WANTED to die.

Took me 4 tries.
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>>344515092
Things start escalating after Ambidex. But I had the same feelings when I was playing, the fragments + set separated teams was a bad idea overall because the characters didn't get much of a chance to develop and progress was constantly erased until they could find a way around it.
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>>344516586
How many times I need to explain that Kyle is Gab.
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>>344516792
Kyle is the Snail.
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>>344516868
Kyle is the player.
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