Is there anyone in all of video games, besides SMT, that can defeat YHVH in a one-on-one fight?
Do visual novels count
>>344474392
Doom Guy
SMT YHVH =/= YHWH
SMT Great Will = YHWH
Why is this so hard for people to get?
You're not fighting god. You're fighting an insane offshoot avatar that god doesn't like and empowers you to beat.
>>344474392
Ichigo Kurosaki via bs power-up
>>344474392
Mario
>>344474392
Christopher Robin
>>344474670
That sounds more accurate, especially given the SMT 1 lore.
How much life and damage does he have?
>>344475139
That's literally Apocalypse.
>>344474392
>nb4 Kirby infinite power post
>>344474670
>You're not fighting god. You're fighting an insane offshoot avatar that god doesn't like and empowers you to beat.
This is getting dangerously close to the power of friendship. Devil Survivor 2 had the superior Great Will.
Giygas
>>344474392
Ashura
>>344475503
It's not "power of friendship" trope, it's "chosen hero" trope.
How the hell did you get "power of friendship" out of "chosen by god"?
>>344475503
>Devil Survivor 2
I find hilarious how one of the endings is pretty much the TTGL intro.
>fighting every single star in the sky for the rest of eternity
>>344474392
Heaven Ascended DIO.
Prenerf Mccree
>>344475684
It went from "god is a power mad asshole who wants to establish perfect order on the universe even if it means destroying freedom and individuality" to "yeah that other guy is still here but he's just a knockoff the real god is a cool guy honest".
>>344475693
Ronaldo endings most retarded endings.
Makes sense since he's the worst character in both games. And the most useless.
>>344475896
>Ronaldo endings most retarded endings.
Better than trapping yourself forever which isn't even guaranteed to work.
>>344475886
>It went from
YHVH being an offshoot of the Great Will of universal order has been known since Megami Tensei 2.
IV/IVA just makes it more explicitly clear that you keep beating YHVH because the MT/SMT protags that fight it are chosen heroes.
>>344476461
They never really defined what the Great Will was, just that it was above YHVH and that it managed shit. DeSu2's Great Will was basically just a machine that existed to keep things from deviating from the divine plan.
>>344476416
>Better than trapping yourself forever which isn't even guaranteed to work.
>Trapping yourself forever in an endless cycle of Armageddon/battle/reset which isn't even guaranteed to work
Yeah so much better.
>>344476653
There's a finite number of Administrators, you could actually win.But the strain of fighting so long would probably make all your friends insane or completely broken.
>>344476598
Why do you keep bringing up the administator?
I know and don't care.
Which is probably why I never quoted you or made any mention of it.
I'm only talking about mainline SMT Great Will.
>>344476849
It's the only real example of what a Great Will actually is outside Apocalypse which came out much later.
>>344475896
>both games
???
>>344475043
10/10 Good kek.
>>344476778
>finite number
That argument flies out the window when the game implies every star could potentially be one, giving you about a septillion cycles to go through.
Finite, yes.
Shit's still not gonna happen.
>>344476598
Yeah and then there was Persona 2 which implied that the Great Will was humanities collective consciousness/psychic footprint
I wish Atlus would just say if the Persona games are in the Amala network or not, 1 and 2 heavily imply they are but 3 and 4 seem not to be
>>344477071
>???
>>344477071
You know there are two Devil Survivor games, right?
That's why the one with Ronaldo has "2" in the title.
>things are hard to figure out
>>344474670
So he's the Demiurge?
Commander Rimanah
>>344477390
>>344477469
When he said both games he's obviously reffering to break record not 1 dipshit
>>344477784
he cant even beat himself
>>344474670
>>344477795
No, he is YHWH and the Great Will is the Great Will.
The Great Will is basically a collective conscience or machine.
>>344477469
>Ronaldo is the worst character in both games
>Ronaldo is in DS 1
>>344478130
Your mom is collectively sucking my dick.
>>344477516
No this is the Demiurge, YHVH is YHVH and The Great Will is The Great Will
>>344474670
the great will isn't god, it's a thing, not a being.
>>344477949
No, I wasn't. I was referring to Ronaldo being the worst character in the collective cast of DeSu 1 and 2.
Because he is, followed closely by Yuzu.
>>344478313
>two game series
>someone says "in both games"
>"hurr they must mean that one character was in both games"
Sorry you're so stupid.
>>344478749
But thats madness
no one is worse then yuzu
>>344474392
Who's the strongest SMT character? Aleph?
>>344478878
Ronaldo's bright ideas are half-assed forced egalitarian dystopia and fighting every star in the universe.
He's a complete retard and even more loud and annoying than Yuzu.
His stat spread also renders him the most laughably pathetic unit in either game.
>>344479065
Nanashi > Flynn > Demifiend > Aleph > Hero
>>344479065
I kinda want to think its bunny considering he gains control over fucking heat, gravity, time and the godamn akashic record at one point
>>344479250
>lamest Megaten games get animations
Admittedly I don't follow the SMT series too closely but
>'BBEG's are machines to keep the universe running well or some shit
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>344479349
i'm still waiting for quantum devil saga anime
>>344479349
considering the quality I almost dont think I want the good ones to get animations
I've only played Strange Journey and Nocturne.
How can strange journey happen if world ended in Nocturne? Or is it some post-cataclysm world?
Reminder than SMT1 and 2 have parties of six, and SMTIV: Final has a party of 4 + a friend that tags along.
Nobody in SMT has defeated YHVH in a one on one fight.
>>344474670
The Great Will is just the collective will of everyone in the universe dingus
>>344479509
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same heheehhrhrer brah
>>344479753
go replay nocturne and pay attention this time holy fuck
>>344479753
Nocturne introduces the idea of infinite universes with the Amala network
>>344474392
Nerevarine
I have a candidate.
An eldritch abomination. An invincible sentient singularity, that gains massive amounts of power through simple interaction with their enemies. One of the last of a race of cosmic warriors, in their prime capable of rending galaxies as mere side effects of their battles. A being that has faced the mightiest heroes of many universes, and frequently comes out on top.
And yet, all that, but a child.
>>344479756
>Nobody in SMT has defeated YHVH in a one on one fight.
>Implying solo runs arent cannon
>>344479756
It's not like God is really easy to kill.
I'd expect at least more than a Gary Stu to kill him.
>>344474392
I beat imaginary creatures in my mind all the time.
>>344479781
Your ass is collective will of everyone in the universe.
>>344479526
i would watch this movie
>>344481937
I beat to imaginary creatures in my mind all the time.
The hero of DQ7 can beats god in his own game. So yes.
Demonbane
Vivec
>>344479065
Abel, he will dance his way to supremacy.
Fei doesn't just defeat him, Fei burns him as fuel for his robot.
>>344474392
aah kos
or some say kosm
>featuring!
>>344485147
>xenogears
>fuel
It runs on pure wave power, bitch nigga
>>344483551
this
>>344474392
>>344485147
>horribly overdesigned dogshit
>>344477784
Hypnotic gate mindfuck would probably beat every sentient creature in vidya, provided you can land it.
>>344483150
Dante isn't capable of inflicting Almighty though, right?
>>344488239
Stinger has a physical pierce effect (Nocturne agreed, don't bother them about it) so yeah, he can deal almighty. YHVH is fucked.
