ITT we discuss video games that make an effort to be "Lovecraftian," and/or to portray the concepts of Cosmic Horror
which are your favorites? which are the most "accurate" to the source material? Which are the most fun?
I tried to play Cthulhu mod for Half-Life but my saves keep crashing
http://www.moddb.com/mods/cthulhu
Lovecraft did not like black people
Therefore he is bad and you should feel bad for mentioning him
you're hero is a fag
>>344459168
stop trying to kill the thread before it starts pls
Pathologic seemed pretty lovecraftian to me.
>>344458803
racist xenophobic asshole
>>344458803
in recent years?
Bloodborne.
There are others, but BB is definitively the #1 most Lovecraftian game to release in the last 5 years
As long as the horrible entity looks like it could've come from the ocean, you're halfway there.
>>344458803
quake 1
>>344458803
Why was he so racist?
>>344459168
Correction, he did not like black people that didn't embrace northeastern Anglo-Saxon culture. His prejudices were always based on culture and a lack of assimilation into his culture by other groups.
After all, his wife was jewish, and he had no problem with her because she was assimilated.
>>344458803
Eternal Darkness
Dark Corners of the Earth is pretty sweet. Not looking forward to the new CoC game though
>>344460203
>his wife was jewish
Jews are basically whites
>>344460282
LOL. They are just as much whites as your average middle eastern arab is.
>>344460282
Again though it wasn't a race thing to him. He liked the Chinese railroad workers in America because they managed to adjust to American life pretty easily.
>>344460282
go to /pol/ and try to make that argument, see how it goes
>>344458803
Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 (some bosses) have lovecraftian influence. Dark Corners of the Earth wasn't fun. Can't honestly think of any other games I've played that would even be feasible to suggest they were. I've read much of Lovecraft's works and to be honest I just don't think it can be translated well into a format that is visual since his writing relied on the reader to imagine what things looked like providing very few concrete details.
>>344459980
>Bloodborne
>Lovecraftian
lol
>>344460464
> I've read much of Lovecraft's works and to be honest I just don't think it can be translated well into a format that is visual since his writing relied on the reader to imagine what things looked like providing very few concrete details.
>All Lovecraft is Great Old Ones/ Elder Gods
Darkest Dungeons is a great adaption of Rats in the Walls. Dark Corners of the Earth did Shadow over Innsmouth well. There's plenty of material that works visually
>>344460203
Y. He had a long rant about how he felt that it's wrong that foreigners come to an established settlement and start demanding things to be done *their* way instead of trying to settle in with the rest. It would be seen as racist and bigoted by all the tenderfoot SJW, but it didn't come off as racist or unreasonable to me.
>>344460618
>EVERY FUCKING THREAD
>>344460429
>>344460387
>>344460379
Not an argument.
>>344460664
He's not wrong though. The similarities Bloodborne share with Lovecraft begin and end with weird tantacled monsters. Everything else is completely anti-Lovecraft. Miyazaki took every single Lovecraftian concept and turned them upside down. Since everything goes the opposite direction from Lovecraft I'd be inclined to say that it is not Lovecraftian at that point.
Best Lovecraft game and it doesn't even use the actual mythos.
>>344460803
Not a rebuttal
>>344458803
Fallout 3 and Fallout 4
:^)
>>344458803
Best Lovecraftian horror game coming through. Other games need not apply.
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem is a good one.
Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth is based more directly on Lovecraft and could have been great if it weren't such a buggy, sloppy, broken mess of a game. Side note: It's pretty stupid that they based it on one story and named it after another.
The Vanishing of Ethan Carter is very Lovecraft, especially in certain parts, but the story is pretty idiotic.
>>344460214
Are those animations from a mod? I don't remember them.
Also that part was god tier. I hope the CoC games they're making at the moment turn out good.
>>344460876
>the similarities that Bloodborne shares with Lovecraft begin and end with tentacles
madmen who violate nature to commune with cosmic entities
these same cosmic entities violate natural processes (like reproduction) to demonstrate their god-like power
the suffering these madmen inflict upon innocent communities in their selfish ambitions
the dangers of reckless invention and application of technology
xenophobia and a fear of the unknown
absorbtion of eldrich knowledge having a physically destructive effect on the body and mind
the idea of dreams being alternate planes of reality
the idea that life force has physical, tangible power that can be exploited
the idea of the Cosmos as a vast ocean that acts to obscure it's deepest depths from observers on the surface
I don't think you ever played BB, anon
>>344460660
The thing is, he was looking at it in the short term and only sees the immigrants who initially come here. America is not Europe when it comes to immigration, they Americanize here, they assimilate, they always have within a generation or two. In Europe they try to turn their new country into their old one.
People bitch about all the mexicans who don't speak english, well guess what? All their kids born in the US do naturally speak english, which shows the assimilation power of America. I mean shit, do you think the Italians acted like Americans when they came here, or even spoke English? Or the Swedes for that matter? Or the Greeks? Or the Irish? Ok the Irish did, but they were too drunk for anyone to understand what they were saying and so we wrote down that they spoke Gaelic.
Jokes aside, my point is that if mass migration could destroy the US, it would've been destroyed like 4 times already. But it doesn't happen, they just adapt and learn to be American with some flavorings from their original culture.
>>344460664
You do know that Lovecraftian means the horror of the unknown and that it focuses on amalgations of blobs and masses of faces/tentacles/eyes/mouths to scare you because you don't know what it is.
Also Bloodborne you pretty much know what every enemy is, you can keep pretending it's lovecraftian if you want but it really isn't.
Everything in the game is studied and you aren't really given a option to study things or observe just go into fight 1,2,3
Sherlock Holmes: The Awakening is a pretty good Lovecraftian game. It gets the mood right and doesn't reveal too much of the supernatural stuff so that it becomes corny.
Dragonborn DLC for Skyrim + http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/15147/?
Beware the endless eldritchness.
>>344461257
There's a fanpatch which restores these cut animations.
I can see why they have removed them from the final game as somertimes it's hard to pick stuff up. Still pretty neat.
>>344461290
I don't think you did either
>>344461365
>Lovecraftian fiction begins and ends with le spoopy tentacle blobs
read a book
>>344459963
>>344459168
>>344460170
>>344461462
literally every one of those things was in the game you shitposting retard. go watch some more LPs/lore videos and brush up on your fake knowledge before posting again
>>344461365
There are only a handful of Lovecraft stories that have blobs/tentacles/etc. They do however happen to be the most famous ones but there's tons and tons that don't have that shit in them.
>>344460660
I guess nowadays a shitty poem and an opinion counts as racist.
I mean imagine if he actually did anything besides commit wrong-think while slowly dying of poverty. He'd practicality be Hitler!
>>344459963
>>344459168
>>344460170
why is he considered racist?
and more importantly, did he do anything against black people. or did he just dislike them?
I've had a pretty good time with Eldritch.
>>344461290
Just mad pcucks shitposting. They don't get the core themes of Lovecraft, just spewing nonsense
>you can kill great ones!
>they have tentacles!
>insanity!
>ctrl+f magicka
>0 results
Come on guys, Magicka has a whole lot of Lovecraftian stuff!
>>344461659
He just wasn't a fan of people who, even if they weren;t this, didn't ACT like white anglo-saxon protestants (the last part is kinda optional because Lovecraft himself teetered between agnostic and atheist depending on his mood).
>>344459168
>>344459963
>>344460170
>implying not liking blacks is a bad thing
Has anyone played the Call of Cthulhu tabletop RPG?
Seems like fun but it doesn't seem as maintained as something like D&D.
>>344461707
My brother from another mother.
You don't know true fear until you're in the sand level with nothing but a rock and a knife.
>>344461930
Call of Cthulhu is good but Delta Green is fucking amazing. Both blow D&D out of the water
>>344461707
is this a minecraft mod?
>Bloodborne has 12 mentions so far
>Dark Corners of the Earth has 1
/v/ memery at its finest. Bloodborne was disappointing as a Souls game and utter shit as a Lovecraftian game, please move on already.
>>344461757
>Lovecraft thread
>P-PCucks..
>>344461930
I have and it's pretty alright, I don't like it as much as WHFRP2e or something to say the least I think you might be better off playing on V:tM or if you really want to play it then yeah you can, but I never really was into it.
Is bloodborne really lovecraftian?
There's a lot more to lovecraft than just DUDE TENTACLES LMAO, lovecraftian horror is all about what you can't see and what you can't comprehend, the "unknowable". You kill hundreds of enemies in bloodborne, and if you can kill an enemy or even deal it damage, then it isn't lovecraftian.
>>344458991
I played through this last year. It was surprisingly similar to call of cthulhu dark corners of the earth. I dont know about your save files though, I had no problems.
reminder that this exists:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHbuE7rbDzs
>>344462121
Preach it
>>344462187
I haven't played many tabletop games so I'm not familiar with the abbreviations.
WHFRP? V:tM?
>>344462238
Cthulhu was killed by a boat
>>344462059
It's aprocedurally generated, roguelike.
If you can get past the minecraft aesthetic, it's a really fun game.
>>344461462
Wow you sure told him
>>344461290
>madmen who violate nature to commune with cosmic entities
In Bloodborne this is seen as a GOOD thing. Madmen are enlightened and it's a state of mine that is sought out, not avoided.
>these same cosmic entities violate natural processes (like reproduction) to demonstrate their god-like power
?
>the suffering these madmen inflict upon innocent communities in their selfish ambitions
Again, wrong. What they do is considered a good thing by the institutions and even the general populace is in favor of what they are doing.
>the dangers of reckless invention and application of technology
All done for the greater good and not for insane selfish reasons
>xenophobia and a fear of the unknown
Doesn't exist in Bloodborne. They love the aliens, which aren't even unkown. We have runes that outright say that they are "sympathetic toward humanity". We don't know shit about the monsters and what they think in Lovecraft's stories.
>absorbtion of eldrich knowledge having a physically destructive effect on the body and mind
Doesn't exist in Bloodborne. No one sees them as physically destructive. Any kind of physical or mental evolution that potentially brings humanity closer to the Great Ones is seen as a beautiful thing.
>the idea of dreams being alternate planes of reality
Really stretching it here, now
>the idea that life force has physical, tangible power that can be exploited
Again, stretching. This is not an element to be found in every or even most of Lovecraft's stories.
>the idea of the Cosmos as a vast ocean that acts to obscure it's deepest depths from observers on the surface
We don't know what the Cosmos does in Bloodborne. It's never explored or even vaguely suggested what its function is, but given that Miyazaki put everything else upside down, we could make an educated guess that it's just a stepping stone for evolution.
>I don't think you ever played BB, anon
And I don't think you ever read Lovecraft
>>344458803
Bloodborne
>>344461659
Lovecraft hated anyone that wasn't an old British man, including himself.
He negatively portrayed blacks, hispanics, rednecks, arabs, and eskimos, and about half of the alien races he mentioned died from becoming too stupid to live.
>>344462390
>>344462318
Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 2nd edition and Vampire the Masquerade
Although you might be better off playing Call of Cthulhu instead I guess.
>>344462238
Are you insecure about a video game you like?
>>344462589
I didn't know there was a Warhammer RPG.
That seems like fun.
Is there a 20k version?
>>344462672
Well anon you see, there's a wide variety of 40krpgs and Warhammer Fantasy RPG games you can play.
If you'd like I can explain them to you in more depth instead of spreading my autism in the thread if you'lladd me on steamhttp://steamcommunity.com/id/DudeAreYouDuranDuran
>>344458803
>mfw half black and loved lovecrafts work
>Angry black lives matter retards at my college including teachers tolde me i shouldn't read his work because he was Niggerphobic
>decide to review call of chatuhlu in front of the whole class
>all the trigger warning questions i got after the presentation
>Bloodborne is not lovecraftian
End this meme pls, From Software don't need to hide it
>>344462869
>all the trigger warning questions i got after the presentation
Do you remember any of them? I want to hear them.
>>344462869
>half black
I'm legitimately sorry, anon.
>>344462390
>implying that if the population sees it as a good thing then it's good for them and they aren't being victimized
wow, crystal meth feels great when I shoot up! it must be some miracle health booster!
>these same cosmic entities violate natural processes (like reproduction) to demonstrate their god-like power
I can tell that you've never played BB since you never found Arianna or imposter Iosefka, but I'll respond to more of your posts to humor you until I get bored of this retarded horseshit
>abusing technology isn't a bad thing if it's "for the greater good"
Laurence pls go
>xenophobia doesn't exist in BB
STEP AWAY FROM MY CASTLE, OUTSIDER
and also fear the Blood while you're at it
>absorption of eldrich knowledge doesn't hurt you isn't in the game
[FRENZIED]
also strike 2 that you have no idea what you're talking about
>the idea of dreams being alternate planes of reality isn't in the game
strike 3, you're retarded.
>>344462931
>Art of Laputa
From has really good taste
>>344462270It will be shit.
>>344462824
Oh whoops *40k that's embarrassing
I'm not home now but I'll be able to add you when I get home.
>>344462931
Oh man they have the Call of Cthulhu and some short reference book to his universe. Truly Lovecraft connoisseurs.
I've never seen anyone talk about thisProbably because it's kinda badbut I think the atmosphere is great for the most part.
>>344462869
upvoted
>>344458803
The Consuming Shadow
>>344462931
>Hellboy
lovecraftian as fuck
>>344463029
There was legit a girl that asked me if i could like a book that suppressed my "black lineage"
As if it had anything to do with the book itself .
Another one said not asked that Love craft had compared blacks to apes once
To which i responded that i thing every great sinentist had done that
>>344460214
What is this? I don't recognize CoC.
>>344463178
I gotcha, I'll explain everything I can and even try to help you out with getting into a game sometime
>>344463915
Call of Cthulhu Dark Corners of the Earth. Really buggy game but fun. I think it was ported by some modder after the Xbox release. The movement speed is apparently tied to the resolution you're running at for some reason.
>>344462931
>Art of Lovecraft's Cthulhu Mythos
>Fantasy FlightLOL
>>344463234
>free yous
Keep em coming anon
>this fucking thread
H.P. Lovecraft didn't invent cosmic horror, he just made it popular
it's like saying that Steve Jobs invented smartphones
does Amnesia: the Dark Descent count?
>>344464161
but steve jobs invented smartphones, but not cellphones
>>344463815
is this a good anime?
Heheheheh.
>>344461203
>Kirby
>Lovecraftian
WHAT?!
>>344464021
> I think it was ported by some modder after the Xbox release
It had an official PC release.
Also most bugs got fixed with the fanpatches.
>people still asking for a good Lovecraftian game
How many times do we need to say "Bloodborne" before people get it?
It's not just the visual design or the clear references to the mythos (cleverly changing the names to make it even more self-contained), it's the theme of the game itself. It takes the revelation that, in the end, your actions are futile in the face of an inhuman, cosmic force, and makes fucking game mechanics out of them. You can beat any one of the three final bosses, but it doesn't matter because there's a larger force, likely the game system itself, trapping you in it's limits. You CAN'T win.
Demon's Souls and Dark Souls both have this too (hell, they both feature The King In Yellow and the final boss of DeS is The Old One), but the difference is that the cosmology of Bloodborne is still incredibly difficult to comprehend. Isn't it all a dream world? Does gaining "eyes on the inside" (also known as the amygdala) simply allow you more perception of the dream world? If that's so, then what does that say of time and space, which are not constant in dreams? All of the tools, attacks and weapons of the Great Ones warp space, so does becoming more like them simply mean becoming a master of lucid dreaming and therefore insight and intelligence? What is Moon Presence's motive, and is Formless Oedon a higher force still? What are the Blood Echoes echoes of? Oedon's voice, perhaps?
Makes me moist.
>>344463815
t. falseflagging misinfo fat white male
>>344464530Best girls VA is kill
>>344460214
>Call of Cthulu
The devs were incompetent and the game designer didn't want to scope the game to the amount of time he had.
>b-b-but the xbox port
The original Xbox was just a closed PC with a high end graphics chip for its time. Porting should have been a breeze.
Fact that you can't beat the game without dialing down the resolution shows how bad the underlying engine code is. Shame since a good chunk of those effects were ahead of their time.
>>344464787
how unfortunate
>>344463068
>wow, crystal meth feels great when I shoot up! it must be some miracle health booster!
Good thing it's not crystal meth, eh?
>I can tell that you've never played BB since you never found Arianna or imposter Iosefka, but I'll respond to more of your posts to humor you until I get bored of this retarded horseshit
And what about them? There's nothing here that proves your point. First of all, you make a sweeping claim that the "cosmic entities violate natural processes (like reproduction) to demonstrate their god-like power
First of all, they aren't demonstrating anything. They need women to have children. They value them and they love their children, as there are lore tidbits that outright state that one of the Great Ones lost his/her child and yearns it.
And secondly, not-Iosefka felt immense pleasure as she was pregnant with an alien baby. Given that people in Bloodborne's world worship others who get close to being like the Great Ones, I do not doubt for one second that women who give birth to their alien babies would be seen as madonnas of enlightenment and purity.
>STEP AWAY FROM MY CASTLE, OUTSIDER
>and also fear the Blood while you're at it
Not fear of the unkown or xenophobia, just an outright hatred of two factions (Vilebloods vs the Church) fighting for dominance over the same thing
>[FRENZIED]
Now you're moving the goalpoast. You said: "absorbtion of eldrich knowledge having a physically destructive effect on the body and mind", frenzy doesn't attack your mind at all as it only kills your physical body.And it is a game mechanic that goes against the lore of the game where people are actively seeking knowledge so that they can see past the veil, even at the cost of their lives
>strike 3, you're retarded
And here I thought I was having a nice debate with someone, two opposing ideas clashing with each other. Why are you so grumpy? Are you afraid of being defaced on an anonymous image board by a person who disagrees with your opinions? Grow up.
>>344464746
(You)
>>344464530
don't bother
just watch Space Patrol Luluco or Kuma Miko
Not a game strictly speaking, but the Forerunner Halo books are some of the best cosmic horror fiction i've seen.
>>344465105
the Forerunner halo books are garbage, though
Anyone else play Deathstate?
Why isn't there one of those images for essential Lovecraftian games? That way everytime someone asks it's all in one image.
>>344465105
>halo
triggered
>>344465057
Why shouldn't someone watch it?
>>344465363
everyone would just shitpost about the contents of the image
>>344465537
Would you expect anything else
Darkest Dungeon has a heavy Lovecraftian influence with a lot of it's themes
Hell the game ends withyou defeating a cosmic entity that has always resided in the earth, only to be mocked for thinking humans could even scratch it. The Ancestor called you to the manor in the hopes you would fail and wake the Heart of Darkness
>>344465659
>defeating a cosmic entity
not Lovecraftian according to /v/
>>344465026
Not him, but how is eldritch knowledge not detrimental?
It's literally eyes lining your brain. Regardless of how the people thought of it, that's fucking detrimental.
>Lovecraft only wrote about crazy ayys with unimaginable forms
>>344465737
>implying anyone ever defeats anything in Lovecraft stories
>let alone the elder gods
>>344465964
>I have never read Call of Cthulhu
>>344465914
He has some ghost stories. They're really good.
>>344465737
I stated that upon "defeating" the entity, you are mocked for thinking you actually did anything. There is no way to kill it, we can only keep it sleeping
>>344458803
The Uncharted series should have a spin off wifh some Eldricht horrors. With their resources and cinematic flair it'd be fucking awesom.eFuck off I like cinematic games.
>>344465765
Anon.. When they said that insight is eyes inside of you, they didn't mean it in the literal sense. Insight is a rather vague mechanic and we don't know enough about it to make claims like that.
And it's not detrimental to the people in Bloodborne. You need to understand that they do not think like we do. Their rationale is completely foreign to ours. That's why we play as a foreign Hunter. Their ways are very strange to us as we're not local, but it is their way and what we think is wrong is not necessarily wrong to them.
>>344466036
Cool Air was fantastic
>>344460464
>Combat is rolling: The series
>Fun
>>344466083
I'd rather a whole new game that went as far away as possible from Uncharted """gameplay""". You're free to like cinematic games, I wont judge, but the gameplay in those games is so braindead even for cover shooter game standards. The parkour / climbing is nothing compared to Assassin's Creed either.
>>344466208
I think I read the one about the woman in the cabin. Something about her being busied with her work and getting the living shit haunted out of her.
>Get a letter in the mail saying you've inherited Pa's old farm house, start remembering how strange your extended family was
>how they would keep your cousin Annabel locked in the room because she was mentally ill or something
>Drive out into the middle of fucking nowhere, pass through silent restless town, everyone stares knowing you're related to Pa
>Open the door to Pa's farm house, place hasn't been cleaned in years, all but the footprints of where they dragged his body out
>start tossing mail, bills, tax forms into the fireplace one evening, and come across letter from "Aunt Marilyn"
>Letter talks about your cousin Annabel's estranged marriage to one of the fishermen, going into details of witchcraft and other dumb redneck superstition
>Think nothing of it and go to bed in Pa's room. all night hearing the sounds of frogs chirping loudly outside your room by the old mill
>Next morning get to work tearing up pieces of the house to fix it up, throw your crowbar into one of the back room's boarded up windows near the pond
>as you rip off the boarded wood, you hear a shrieking hissing come from inside, which causes you to jerk away and fall on your ass in the mud
>After you clean up, you decided to investigate what ever animal is caught in the back room; as you find it just so happens to be Annabel's room
>You find the key, put it in the lock, and slowly open the door to the sound of rustling and slapping of skin on wood
>You swing the door open against your better judgement and just happen to see a long slender muscular black skinned thigh squeezing out of the hole you made earlier
>Dazed, but determined, you slam the door shut, lock it, and run outside
>sitting near the pond is a large black bull-frog staring, breathing heavily, timidly waiting to leap into the pond
You know what would be FUCKING AWESOME? A survival game based on The Adventures of Arthur Gordon Pym.
>>344466025
They don't kill Cthulhu in the story. They just manage to get away from him.
>>344461292
The reason migrants assimilate to American culture, is because of the pressure to assimilate is pressed upon them.
The first generation can eek by on labor jobs, but there are no better opportunities for them or their children, until they become Americanized.
Mass immigration would allow migrants to set up insular societies within America's borders. And within those insular societies, they won't assimilate.
>>344465026
>the Blood isn't crystal meth
it's about as addictive as Crystal Meth. See: Punngent Blood Cocktail, the concept of Blood-drunkenness, etc. Selling the populace an addictive drug, getting them hooked and then going "it's ok, see, they want it" is a profoundly retarded argument to make.
>getting a woman pregnant telepathically isn't a violation of natural reproductive processes
literally a concept as old as most human religions
>inb4 no proof of telepathy
Oedon literally has no physical form, he exists only in voice
>he thinks that the line STEP AWAY FROM MY CASTLE refers to Vileblood v Executioners
keep digging that knowledge hole there, pal, that's all dialogue from Yharnamites who hate you for being an outsider. Try knocking on some closed doors with incense nearbyor better yet, look it up on Youtube since we both know that you don't own the game
>frenzy goes against the lore because it shows that the uncontrolled absorption of eldrich knowledge is harmful
>when the items Madman's Knowledge, Madman's Set, etc. explicitly state this
yet more evidence that you have no idea what you're talking about
By the way, I'm not going to reply to anything you respond to this post. Go watch some more Vaati, and if it makes you feel better, you can always say that you "won" an internet argument by getting the last word in
>>344466458
they smash his head by ramming the boat against it. Did you read the story?
>>344466025
Cthulu isn't anything special. Literally just a big guy.
>play that one FPS call of cthulhu game
>mouse won't even fucking move
>everyone on steam says it is a buggy piece of bestheda shit
>>344466656
And it immediately starts regenerating. Did you?
>For an instant the ship was befouled by an acrid and blinding green cloud, and then there was only a venomous seething astern; where—God in heaven!—the scattered plasticity of that nameless sky-spawn was nebulously recombining in its hateful original form, whilst its distance widened every second as the Alert gained impetus from its mounting steam.
Then later on
>Cthulhu still lives, too, I suppose, again in that chasm of stone which has shielded him since the sun was young. His accursed city is sunken once more, for the Vigilant sailed over the spot after the April storm; but his ministers on earth still bellow and prance and slay around idol-capped monoliths in lonely places. He must have been trapped by the sinking whilst within his black abyss, or else the world would by now be screaming with fright and frenzy.
Earthbound, Giygas being the closest thing to Azathoth in all of video games.
>>344458803
They Bleed Pixels was inspired by Lovecraft. The underwater level with the chains was the best.
>>344466458
Its not very Lovecraftian to ram Cthulhu in the head with a steamboat. Lovecraft should be ashamed of himself, he is a hack writer who doesn't appreciate real Lovecraft.
>>344466369o shit waddup
>>344466369
>>344466369
storyfag here, that's one of Lovecraft's forgotten gems, quickly repurposed for 4chan
I bring this up because Chthulu is not just a giant fish monster, Chthulu represents the Fear of the Unknown
More games need to stop showing us the monsters and letting us kill them, the early Silent Hills were perfect Lovecraftian Horror
>>344466532
>implying that immigrants to America ever assimilate
ah, the old lie
Americans take pride in their ancestral heritage and retain cultural traditions LONG after it actually makes sense to do so. As a (mild) example of this, see people insisting on being referred to as Irish/German/African/Italian/etc. - American four+ generations after their ancestors got off the boat. This isn't the most extreme example, but the general point should get across.
TRUE assimilation takes centuries on centuries or extreme violence to achieve
Lovecraft is inherently bad to adapt for a visual medium because the entire point of Lovecraft is that itssubversiveof the hidden monster trope. The monster isn't hidden, it's just so grotesque that actually looking at it is impossible.
So if by actually depicting a lovecraftian monster, you take away everything that makes it lovecraftian in the first place.
>>344467053
oh shit, that is not the picture I posted
everyone GET OUT, THIS THREAD IS HAUNTED
>>344459168
when he was an agnsty young adult
by the time of his death he began to feel rather ashamed by his previously zealous zenophobia
>>344459168
Legit a thread on /co/ dissolved into bashing lovecraft while everyone tried talking about his novelas. Seriously fuck those guys
>>344467338
>/co/
>liking black people
lmao you're kidding right, /co/ is basically /pol/ breeding ground because they hate how progressive marvel has become
>>344467053
I would prefer if a game simply had you fighting against cultists and have the whole cosmic horror thing be ambiguous at best.
More of an investigation game then a FPS.
>>344467427
They're actually making 2 Lovecraft/CoC games at the moment and both are detective-ish games apparently. I hope they're good. And yeah, there can be some stuff every once in a while showing up but there shouldn't be full on old god sightings in the games.
>>344466595
>it's about as addictive as Crystal Meth. See: Punngent Blood Cocktail, the concept of Blood-drunkenness, etc. Selling the populace an addictive drug, getting them hooked and then going "it's ok, see, they want it" is a profoundly retarded argument to make.
So? What does this have to do with Lovecraft? They are all a bunch of junkies. What then? Hunters use it as a healing item so obviously this miraculous menstrual blood that we inject us with has some positive powers. Sure, one can succumb to it and become a werewolf, but strong enough people are able to withstand it. That's how evolution works, brah. Some guys don't evolve, get left behind and die; those who evolve become the next step.
>literally a concept as old as most human religions
How do you know it's telepathic? Perhaps they physically commune with the women once the bloodmoon event is triggered. We weren't there with them so we wouldn't know. And it is a violation of natural processes in our world, but the world of Bloodborne is not our world and they view it as a miraculous gift. A state that should be sought not avoided.
>Oedon literally has no physical form, he exists only in voice
I don't recall this being said anywhere? He's called Formless Oedon, not bodiless Oedon. Formless could mean that he's an ever changing mass. The dictionary definition of formless agrees with me: "without a clear or definite shape or structure."
I'm out of post space so this is part 1/2
>>344460203
>jewish
it's a religion not a race.
>>344467417
>/co/ is one person
There are /pol/ and /co/mblr fights every fucking thread.
>>344467338
People bring up the racism thing cause they know its a sure-fire way of pissing people off and derailing the thread.
>>344467541
Yeah one is being made by the Devs of some Sherlock games, Sunken City or something could be cool. I just want a slow paced atmospheric game I can really get into.
>>344467679
>Oedon has no form, he exists only in voice
>I don't recall this being said anywhere
Not that guy, but
"The Great One Oedon, lacking form, exists only in voice" -- Formless Oedon
>lacking form, exists only in voice
>lacking form
>lacking form
pay attention
>>344462334
Can you blame him? Imagine waking up after a thousand years and your "good morning" was a fucking cruiser to the forehead. I'd go back to sleep too.
>>344467541
To expand on this since I just looked them up. One's just called Call of Cthulhu and is based on the pnp game. Apparently both of them are made by Frogwares actually, that's weird.
But the other is called The Sunken City.
>The player steps into the shoes of a 1920s private investigator who finds himself in the city of Oakmont Massachusetts, New England. A city suffering from unprecedented floods of clearly supernatural origins. A city trembling on the brink of madness.
>>344466595
>keep digging that knowledge hole there, pal, that's all dialogue from Yharnamites who hate you for being an outsider. Try knocking on some closed doors with incense nearby or better yet, look it up on Youtube since we both know that you don't own the game
Yeah it's true, the Yharnamites are xenophobic. But again you are moving the goalpost. You brought up the Vileblood Castle and I simply answered that.
>frenzy goes against the lore because it shows that the uncontrolled absorption of eldrich knowledge is harmful
>when the items Madman's Knowledge, Madman's Set, etc. explicitly state this
>yet more evidence that you have no idea what you're talking about
Madman's Knowledge:
"‘Skull of a madman touched by the wisdom of the Great Ones.
Use to gain Insight.
Making contact with eldritch wisdom is a blessing, for even if it drives one mad, it allows one to serve a grander purpose, for posterity."
Yeah, losing it completely is not an ideal state of mind, but for the people in Bloodborne the ends justify the means at all cost, and going crazy is seen either as a happy accident or as a beautiful thing (this kind of portrayal is more prevalent in the DLC, in the asylum). In any case, the lore in Madman's Knowledge disagrees with you.
> Go watch some more Vaati,
lol
>and if it makes you feel better, you can always say that you "won" an internet argument by getting the last word in
The only winners are those who walk away from a conversation having learned something new, or gained new perspective. Stop acting like everything on the internet is a war to be won by brute force and that there can only be one "winner".
>>344468078
The interesting thing about The Sinking City is that they've apparently hired an actual city planner to help design the game. Theres an interesting article about it on their site.
http://frogwares.com/urban-planning-lovecraftian-horror-first-steps/
That apparent attention to detail has me cautiously optimistic.
People only really know of Cthulhu and Lovecraft because they're such icons of pop culture.
Cthulhu isn't even a significant being, his only real purpose is to extinguish humanity. That's it. There's been many master species on earth before and will be after. In the Cthulhu mythos Humanity and Cthulhu really are the most insignificant things.
There's far more interesting beings in the mythos.
>>344466684
For me?
>>344468467
That's really cool. The image on that page says he wrote a 90 page city layout and description. Should be better than a typical open world if it's a small town planned out so well.
>>344458803
Darkest Dungeon
/thread
>>344467848
ehh, it's still pretty vague. I'd say that it's about 60/40 that Odeon is only a voice based on this, but even then, lacking form does not mean lacking a physical vessel. Shub-Niggurath (iirc) lacks form as his eyes and mouths keep disappearing and re-emerging, but he does have some sort of physical body.
I'll have to look up the Japanese name and figure out if there's something lost in translation here.
>>344465185
Shit taste detected.
They ruin a lot of the mystery surrounding the flood and the forerunners but what's actually there is excellent.
Might be more /a/ than /v/ but this is the best piece of Lovecraftian horror I've read since HPL himself
>>344468979
it quite literally states that he exists ONLY IN VOICE.
That's it, he has no body. He exists only in voice. The game cannot possibly make this idea any clearer to you.
Here's the link too
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Formless+Oedon
Lovecraft wrote stories about the resulting madness of attaining knowledge about the greater cosmos. His stories were about horrific secrets that show how inconsequential mankind is, that there are always far greater things beyond our understanding, and most who found that knowledge were driven mad by it.
You faggots can go into details about his stories and Bloodborne, but these were consistently at the core of most of his stories and Bloodborne itself.
Bloodborne is Lovecraftian, even if it does put a spin on it in some ways. You may as well say Game of Thrones wasn't inspired by Lord of the Rings just because it's not about a great journey and the elves aren't jolly forest people.
went through dunwich borers on fallout 4 the other day
enjoyed it alot very spooky, must have spent about 200 12 gauge shells
>>344469157
Yea, but it feels conflicting to say that he's formless, which, again, is not bodiless. They could've used a different word, which is why I'd like to know what the Japanese name is. Perhaps Oedon is called Bodiless Oedon or something along the lines of that in the Japanese text.
>>344468863
Let's hope so. Though I'm hoping with it being open world they do some completely unrelated side quests or something to keep it interesting.
One of my favourites was in VtM: Bloodlines where you have to find a bounty hunter and it turns to be perpetrated by a human, nothing supernatural about it.
>>344469217
there are elves in game of thrones?
>>344469157
>>344469460
Well I found out that the Impurity rune in the original Japanese game would be closer translated as Stagnation, so the possibility of there being mistranslated concepts is quite likely, if this is true.
>>344469217
No, Lovecraft was about going mad because of the crushing realization that in the grand scheme of things, the cosmos does not give a shit about you.
Bloodborne is different. It's about gaining knowledge so that humanity could evolve and ascend into the starts with the other Great Ones.
>>344469110
Saya no Uta is really great butvisual novels aren't games
>>344469702
Disregard my idiocy. I had Witcher written, but changed it to GoT because I went for the more popular series everyone would've seen.
>>344469217
>You may as well say Game of Thrones wasn't inspired by Lord of the Rings just because it's not about a great journey and the elves aren't jolly forest people.
But that's absolutely true. Game of Thrones was inspired by the War of the Roses and the ASoIaF Elves are Sidhe, which are the original British Isles concept of elves.
>>344468772
Any idea why it's Cthulhu Book that got the most popular?
>>344470215
It's the most popular one in pop culture, that's for sure. Most people who read Lovecraft will find most of his other stories far more compelling than Call of Cthulhu.
>>344470123
no worries buddy
>>344470215
Probably because Cthulhu is the one that was visually described the best and therefore is the most recognizable.
How's The Last Door? Apparently it's inspired by Lovecraft's work.
>>344469923
While most of those people who attempt it go mad or lead their communities into madness. It's clearly built off Lovecraft, even if it does put a slighly different spin on it. What's so hard to understand about that? It's not exactly the same, but it doesn't have to be for the parallels to be visible.
>>344463220
It got me into the series, so it can't be that badexcept the New Orleans part, that was horrible
>>344469923
>it's about gaining knowledge so that humanity could evolve
>implying that the whole game isn't spent hunting down the horrible abominations brought on by people trying to cheat the process and gain power without knowledge
"Master Willem was right. Evolution without courage will be the death of our race"
>>344470329
Yeah, I haven't even read that much Lovecraft yet, but from what I have read Shadow Over Innsmouth, The Music of Eric Zann, and Herbet West: Reanimator were all much more memorable stories
>>344470493
Lovecraft is about the inevitable defeat of the human race no matter what we do. Bloodborne's message is a bit more hopeful as it's about taking the next step in life. Arguably the best ending is the one where the hunter turns into a calamari, which is that first step into the stars.
>>344462452
I think my favorite part is when it first released, it was like a new Lovecraft novel to the audience as well. It was marketed as
>le spoopy victorian werewolves
and suddenly had madmen and interdimensional mindfucking
>>344471062
there is nothing wrong with victorian werewolves tho
>>344458803
>We will never get an Arkham University game that is basically XCOM: Enemy Unknown but taking place at the turn of the 20th century and combining elements and missions from Lovecraft, Howard, Verne, and other period pulp and science fiction writers
:/
>>344458803
La-Mulana is pretty lovecraftian, I feel, once you look at it. The Mother is an alien that crash landed on Earth, and creates entire forms of life for the sheer purpose of fixing her ship, annihilating those that fail her. In the Awakened Shrine, her tentacles spew out all over the place, connecting her all throughout her vessel. The bizarre monuments and and symbolism found throughout the ruins are revealed to be machines used for creating life from scratch.
>>344471005
even that's ambiguous
even if you "ascend" to the stars, you might end up Rom'd and have an existence as an eternal potato. Man's ascension may well make him wish he hadn't
>>344470715
>"Master Willem was right. Evolution without courage will be the death of our race"
>Evolution without courage will be the death of our race
Yes. Do you know how evolution works? Not everyone evolves and those who don't die. Those who do evolve, survive. The people who get turned into frenzied abominations are the unfortunate failures. Master Willem encourages this process as he says that they must continue with their course but do it with courage, instead of, say, doubt.
>>344461659
he was a product of his time
>>344471062
The Lovecraft twist in Bloodborne was a sudden and appreciated erection.
I remember years ago in one of those make your dream game and a lot of people said Dark Souls + Lovecraft. And somehow we got it.
>>344471332
master willem was not in any way encouraging the actions of the Choir or the Mensis, the two antagonistic factions of the whole game (save the dlc). their founding was a result of Laurence splitting with Willem because he was dissatisfied with Willem's methods.
>master willem encourages this process
"By the Gods, fear it [the Blood], Laurence"
>>344471062
>it was like a new Lovecraft novel to the audience as well
really, tell me about some of lovecraft's novels
>>344471321
I certainly think what they do is horrible, but I think that the people of that world are so far gone and depraved that they truly believe it to be the best thing ever. And maybe it is, who knows? In any case it's impossible to imagine that humanity will remain in the form that we are now millions of years down the line. Bloodborne, to me, is a game about evolution, life and birth. To me it is the most human and hopeful game that Miyazaki has made, even if it has the trademark veil of crazyness.
>>344471152
yeah, i bought it on release, figuring that was all there was.
was pleasantly surprised, though
>>344471471
Fear it doesn't necessarily mean avoid it. It's a powerful thing and should be feared and respected instead of squandered around with like many of the Clergy seem to be doing. I interpret it as Willem advising caution, but not abandoning the process.
>>344471640
He has a few short novels or that are sometimes considered novels or novellas. At the Mountains of Madness, The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath, maybe a few others.
>>344471260
CODENAME: S.T.E.A.M. is close?
>>344471849
>Provost Willem would have approved of Caryll's Runes, as they do not rely on Blood in any measure -- Rune Workshop Tool
Blood as a source of arcane power was a hard no-go under Willem's administration
Was Alan Wake inspired by Lovecraft?
>>344471640
sure. CoC is a novella, but MoM, Kadath, Innsmouth are definitely close enough to be considered novels.
also definition semantics are for faggots who value being technically correct over valuable, constructive discussion
>>344471657
>but I think that the people of that world are so far gone and depraved that they truly believe it to be the best thing ever.
just because they "believe" that it's a good thing doesn't mean that it's not an objectively bad thing. I know people who "believe" that it's good for kids to not get vaccinations.
>>344471990
In this case it's possible that he didn't like the blood experiments. He did want to ascend, however, so the desire remains the same, even if the path was different. He's the head of an institution whose whole existence is solely to study aliens from the cosmos after all.
>>344471892
no, he has a few long stories/novellas. he has nothing considered a novel or short novel.
>>344472098
Lovecraft by way of Stephen King sure. But the thing in the lake is pretty legit though acts completely unlike a Lovecraft 'villain' so to speak.
>>344472098
No, it's closer to a slasher film.
>>344472102
>40 page long stories are "definitely close enough to be considered novels"
people who read would just say you're wrong. you know who semantics are for? people who read
lovecraft is pretty entry-level stuff, so it doesn't surprise me that it's about as far as some of you get
>>344472247
A novella is a short novel.
>>344472241
the different path makes all of the difference in the whole world, senpai
Willem wanted to ascend via insight, and elevating his thoughts to the level of a Great One -- he wanted to organically grow eyes on his brain until he saw the Cosmos
Laurence, Micolash, etc. thought that was a retarded idea. They wanted to cheat -- use the arcane power of the Blood and other artifacts to force a physical transformation artificially. The results of these experiments are disastrous, just look at Yharnam, at Yahargul. The Church was not at all interested in gaining knowledge, they were interested in how to ascend WITHOUT gaining any more knowledge than necessary to work their technology
>>344472116
But I don't think our real world values apply to Bloodborne. We can try to apply them, and that may be the point of the Hunter being a literal foreigner, but we're supposed to observe their ways and decide for ourselves what is best and what is not, which is why turning into a calamari is a possible ending.
>>344472348
The copies I have of his stuff have AtMoM at 104 pages and Dream Quest at 102 pages. The Case of Charles Dexter Ward is 128 pages.
>>344472836
must be some big letters
>>344466958
Is there more of this or what? You gonna post it?
>>344462390
>In Bloodborne this is seen as a GOOD thing. Madmen are enlightened and it's a state of mine that is sought out, not avoided.
In the same way having fish babies is seen as a "good" thing in fucking innsmouth. Which is to say, any reasonable person can see it's fucked up and has caused the place to go to absolute hell.
>?
One of the gods makes both iofsefka and the prostitute suddenly alien pregnant. Did you seriously not play the fucking game?
>And a bunch of shit covered by my first point.
Are you really so goddamn stupid you believe the crazy people who turned the town into fucking werewolves?
>>344462238
I don't understand why damaging your enemy makes the game "not lovecraftian". The central themes of facing unknown and striving to obtain intelligence not fit for men are really Lovecraftian.
>"B-But gameplay mechanics"
So you ignore entire setting and plotline because it has a gameplay mechanic you don't consider "lovecraftian enough"?
I swear this board is inhabited by autists.
>>344472557
their "ways" are a product of diseased minds that are wrought by addiction and indoctrination. respecting them is nothing more than enabling a drug abuser instead of helping them overcome their problem
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>>344473009
They're the Arkham House prints.
https://www.amazon.com/At-Mountains-Madness-Other-Novels/dp/0870540386/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468111328&sr=8-1&keywords=at+the+mountains+of+madness+arkham+house
>>344472348
>lovecraft is pretty entry-level stuff, so it doesn't surprise me that it's about as far as some of you get
I agree with the rest of your post but now your /lit/ is showing. Get off your wooden horse and just accept the fact that people like Lovecraft and there's nothing wrong with it. The whole concept of entry level anything is plain silly.
>ctrl+f "eternal darkness"
>2 matches
Not enough.
>>344473501
B-but my War and Peace!
>>344458803
most fun and favorite?
represents it fairly well with the fishing hamlet being literally innsmouth
bloodborne
its GOAT really
>>344473407
And yet Yharnam is the only place in the world that isn't being ravaged by an incurable plague. Don't forget that the reason for the Hunter to go to Yharnam in the first place was because of the rumor that Yharnamites did not suffer from the plague that you (and most of the outside world) suffered from, and you desperately wanted a cure.
Yharnamites have taken the blood thing a bit too far and fetishize it quite a bit, but I don't see how it's any more or less wrong than the extent we take something such as alcohol. For some people it does become a problem, but others can be responsible with it.
>>344467707
I know, but try telling that to certain offshoots of the Jewish population. They're as ignorant as /pol/.
>>344462390
this whole post sees bloodborne as one person
bloodborne has no good or bad its not black and white
>>344473812
>Yharnam in the first place was because of the rumor that Yharnamites did not suffer from the plague that you (and most of the outside world) suffered from, and you desperately wanted a cure.
>and most of the outside world
find me literally any evidence to suggest this. the only thing Big M has EVER stated is that the Hunter came to Yharnam to cure a disease, he made no mention of some world-ending plague
>>344473501
Not that guy but I think every category of entertainment has "entry-level" stuff.
I don't watch anime but I've seen DBZ, everyone has. If an anime fan listed DBZ as one of their favorite animes of all time, you might find it questionable because DBZ is obviously entry-tier.
As far as videogames go, I'd say CoD, Assassin's Creed, Fifa, Overwatch, and LoL are pretty entry tier.
>>344458803
I fell like a lot of people who make "Lovecraftian" games have clearly never read Lovecraft. Luckily there are exceptions.
Why people think that Lovecraft is all about the insane gods you can't do anything about, there are quite more "human" creatures. Why not a game about the Elder Thingsthry are Man after all!, the Mi-Go and so on? They are vastly superior to us but they are mere lackeys in the the big picture.
>mfw no Acthung! Cthulhu game
>mfw no Delta Green vidya
>>344473884
Jew is definitely a distinct race, it's just that you can be Jewish and not be an ethnic Jew, but since there aren't separate words to distinguish the race and the religion it gets complicated
>>344469110
It's pretty shit though. Interesting setting ruined with a story that becomes just an excuse to showcase rape and mash together such a collection of "scary" snuff fetishes it feels like written by a 12-yo looking to rake in those edge points. I don't understand why people like this. It was just a huge letdown.
At least the ost is nice.
>>344470378
I played that, it was one of the best representation of Lovecraft I've seen in a game. The soundtrack is great too, if you like that stuff give it a try anon
>>344458803
Bloodborne
>>344461659
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/On_the_Creation_of_Niggers
>>344459963
Go back to Tumblr.
>>344473812
>I don't see how it's any more or less wrong than the extent we take something such as alcohol
Alcohol doesn't turn people into werewolves you dingus, what the fuck kind of bullshit alcohol have you been chugging???
>>344474330
>born white
>baptized Catholic
>was never close with my family or church
>spent most of my childhood attending a majority Jewish school
>one day someone asks me if I'm Jewish
>"Uh . . . only culturally, I guess?"
>>344467252
He traveled extensively in middle age and his attitudes softened, seeing how he must have realized they were in some part shaped by his fucked up upbringing and the powerlessness of his poverty. He supported the New Deal and was sympathetic to socialist attitudes that were on the rise again before McCarthyism drew them off.
I kind of see Shadow Over Innsmouth reflecting his changing attitudes in some way. At the end, the protagonist accepts his metamorphic fate as something to be embraced rather than escaped from in an almost positive ending, if we leave our human bias at the door.
Quake always was an intersting mix of lovecraftian, gothic horrors meats 80's cyber warfare
>>344474705
This is hilarious
>>344459168
>Implying I don't love him BECAUSE of his racism
>Mfw those 'Nigerian Witch Doctors'
Based Lovecraft putting those Nignogs in their place.
>>344474687
saw cleaver is such a shit weapon when you think about it
>slice into beast hide
>teeth of saw get stuck like when you cut into wood at a bad angle
>get killed like a bitch as you try and wrench the weapon free
don't have this problem with the Axe desu
>>344474330
It's been proven time and again that, while certain Jewish sects can obviously trace their genetic roots a few hundred years down the line, there's no common denominator that unifies them racially.
>>344474756
Maybe not physically. Some people can't handle alcohol at all and become violent assholes even if they are anything but.
>>344460618
>>344460876
>>344462390
Stop replying to this fag. He's either a Pcuck who has never played Bloodborne or a deranged baitposter.
>>344475121
>there's no common denominator that unifies them racially.
That's because they were vagrants who kept getting ran out of each country they tried to settle in. They are a very mixed group.
>>344460170
Because he had intelligence, and taste. In his time, those things weren't entirely forbidden by Market Monotheism.
>>344475341
same thing happens with Blood as well
only with Blood, you ALSO have people turn into literal werewolves, so it's a bit more extreme of a drug than alcohol
>>344475554
it's a bit more fantastical, but in some ways it's also the same.
>>344471347
Not all writers of his time decided to write a poem about niggers, even the ones who have shown to be racist.
>>344475426
No one cares dumb baleposter. You're all spergs for getting angry about interpretations of a video game that is vague as fuck on purpose.
>>344474940
Your reaction image is a proper reaction for what you wrote.
