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Zero Escape: Zero Time Dilemma
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New Zero Escape thread
Discuss, meme, etc.
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Also, streaming ZTD playthrough
hitbox tv / Blick-Winkel

just finishing up Q-END
get in here
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>people keep calling Akane an idiot for getting outrused
It's not her fault she didn't know about Delta's plans.

Her future self from the Payoff timeline won't stop broadcasting fragments of her wedding night with Junpei on all morphic frequencies.
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>implying there's anything worse than a bratty snail
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>>344448062
Fuck, it's uncanny seeing my bad drawing actually be reposted on /v/ regularly. I feel like I should redraw it or something.
>>344448001
...I wish I had an idea for a discussion but all I have are memes.
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999>E17>VLR=ZTD>R11>N7
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Junpei a fucking beta nu-male gook lmao. Sigma and Carlos need to DP that bitch Akane and make her a cock loving dirty slut.
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>>344448479
She is still a bitch
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Junpei literally goes nothing personel kid in the AB game. What a fucking faggot.
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>>344448696
R11 > RD > 999 > VLR = E17 > I/O > N7 >>>>>> ZTD
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>>344448001
Where can I find a Diana of my very own?
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>>344448680
Discussion topic:
What's you're favorite tweest from ZTD
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>>344448729
You are a cuck in denial.
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why can't i find this game on my private trackers?
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>>344448783
I only just started RD, and at least at the beginning it is literally E17 in a different setting. Is it really that good? If so, I'm pretty excited.
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>>344448863
Delta was near Sean team all along.
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>>344448863
All the watches being on different times.
The flowchart distorting like that was frigging great.
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>>344448863
None of them were good.
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>>344449003
>not using 3ds freeshop
You're missing out on the pinnacle of vidya piracy, anon.
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so I just finished and I wanted to ask since I'm lazy and I'm a little late so I'm assuming it's been done already

does it actually make sense that Q/Brother/Delta/Zero was with each team the entire time? I feel like there have to be some contradictions somewhere
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>>344449125
>each team
see >>344449015
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>>344449176
I literally just finished and posted, I am reading that now
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>>344448001
Posted this in the previous thread just as it got locked:

I finished ZTD today.

Zero Escape might as well have ended with 999 in my opinion. Didn't need to go any further than that.

Well, VLR was alright. There were some good sequel hooks in there. But... where did they go? What's with this conclusion? I feel incomplete. This was supposed to be the Zero Escape finale? Okay then... how very unexciting.

Did I expect too much maybe? I dunno man.
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>>344449015
For sure. Gotta be honest, I didn't think uchikoshi had it in him to still be able to surprise me like that. I loved the ending where you shoot him with a crossbow, and Mira and Eric just say what the fuck
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>>344449005
Since Nakazawa was the one who came up with it, it plays out differently and has different pacing, but as a cohesive story it's very well put together

I disagree with some of it, but it's objectively very well made

Also word of warning turn down the sound effects volume real hard because some of it will break your fucking ears for no reason
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>>344448851
Step 1: hang out around hospitals and strike up conversations with cute nurses sporting awkward bruises
Step 2: open your eyes to how awful and bizarre humans really are
Step 3: Become ZTD Junpei
Step 3 (alt): build pure robot waifu to soothe your soul
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>>344449112
why would i play it on a small screen when there's a pc version?
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>>344449019
Sardonic Akane is cuuuuute
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>>344448479
Junpei doesn't know what he's in for
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>>344448783
didn't R11 like not have an ending or something
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>>344449608
It has an ending, just not one everyone is happy with and gets perpetuated as the shittiest shit to ever shit when it's really not

and it's some of the most basic shit in the world to look at the tips and find out precisely what was actually going to happen
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>>344449275
999 was a great standalone game, and the other 2 are tacked on for sure, but I still think ZTD and VLR were great in their own right.
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>>344448729
Did Sigma really do anything that great in ZTD? He made a lot of rash decisions and just stood there with a pained look as Eric shot several people
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>>344448783
Root Double is mediocre as fuck though. The After route with Watase is the only part that I would actually consider to be good.
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>>344449248
>>344449176
new question after reading that image:

did Mira not kill Delta when she went apeshit with the scalpel?
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>>344449313
Thanks man, just started it the other day and am not very far in yet at all.
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I want to share this series with a family member who I think would really enjoy it.

But, is there any way to get VLR to work for them? Both my handhelds are JP region (which they cannot read)

I heard something about a PC port announced, but does that have an estimated release date?
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>>344448775
depends on the timeline but yeah fuck him "Muh gritty detective life"
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>>344448479
His motives were too complex.
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>>344449558
Because the graphics aren't detailed enough anyway and the portability is nice.
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why bother preventing 6 billion people from dying?
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>>344449608
It was definitely unfinished, and there are indications a third route was planned. Still, the story is conclusive and pretty awesome if you don't mind digging through the fucking glossary to get the best parts of it.
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ztd is the only game in the series i played

i loved it desu, even though a lot of references were completely lost on me
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>>344448479
I hate akane because she only ran a nonary game to save her own life

she's a selfish bitch
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Why didn't akane fuck Carlos?
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>>344450147

>starting with the third game

play 999 and then vlr
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>>344448873
or maybe akane and junpei have no chemistry at all?

they are supposedly in love with each other because reasons
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>>344450002
But how are you gonna screenshot the dank memes
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>>344450158
She sort of had to do it though, as she literally saw the events of the future through the bottom screen narration in 999 and had to fulfill it for the future to actually exist
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>>344450158
>run Nonary Game to save her own skin and have revenge on four people
>bitches at Delta for running a Nonary Game to save his own skin and save the world (or have revenge on the terrorist, your pick)
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>>344450260
She did, we just didn't get to observe that timeline.
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>>344450260
Carlos and Junpei fucked instead
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>>344450147
You ignored literally everybody's advice and didn't play 999 first? You should play it anyway because it's better, but now a big part of it (the existence of the morphogenetic field) will be spoiled.
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>>344449802
She doesn't
If you follow the timeline down, it leads to Q's VR end, in which Zero (Delta) is still alive.
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>>344450260
She will in the doujins.
Patiently waiting for the Carlos&Junpei ones.
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>>344450147
You are a stupid fuck.
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>>344450462
Doesn't the homebrew channel have a screenshot tool, now? Good point, though
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>>344450618
>Carlos&Junpei
good taste
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>>344450462
miiverse
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WHY DID MIRA KILL JUNPEI
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>>344448783
>I/O > N7 >>>>>> ZTD
I/O was a fucking mess and never7 shouldn't be on that list
>RD that high
how can your taste be so shit
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>>344449275
>Did I expect too much maybe?
Yeah, but it's not your fault. VLR set up too much stuff that ZTD was obligated to follow up on, and it didn't even get to all of it. 999 and VLR worked great because they were mostly self-contained, so it didn't help that ZTD had 5 familiar returning characters, the entire basis for why these characters are there, and about 10 dangling plot threads that we assumed would be tied up. Having the mysteries not be mysteries is no fun.
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>>344448001
Who's the red red haired cutie?
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>>344450468
she should stop existing then. only junpei and santa care
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>>344450986
from left to right

q, phi, akane

so it's akane
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>>344450796
She's a psychotic murderer?
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>>344450537
but i only play pc games...
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>>344450875
You just summed up why I don't like ZTD as much as the other two. I liked how VLR felt like it's own game while simultaneously working as a good sequel to 999. ZTD doesn't really work too well standalone (reliant on knowing stuff from the other two) and also doesn't do all that well as a followup to VLR and a finale to the series.
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>>344450796
just for shits and giggles
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>"H-hang on, you're just gonna do what he says?"
>tells Diana to push the buttonemphatically
>doesn't even try to disarm Eric even when it would be easy to
>uses the transporter to get to some random point without planning at all when Carlos EASILY found the right point to transport to
>His greatest achievement is having babies and then starving to death

what the fuck was up with Sigma in this game?
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>>344450875
>no clover

the real reason ztd is shit
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>>344450796
Delta wanted to ruse Akane.
And boy did he.
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Reminder that Akane wore no pants during ZTD.
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So we're expected to accept they were pushing wheelchair Zero all along and calling the boy Sean all the time even thought it was never actually shown?

What a regress from VLR's lack of fear of showing obvious in hindsight foreshadowing that pretty much spoiled the whole game.
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>>344451392
>what are emulators
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>>344451687
>when it would be easy to
>implying
Bitch in heels >>>>> Eric >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sigma
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>>344451687
old sigma is senile
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>>344451817
That's how dresses work m8
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>>344451891
dude your arrows point into the wrong direction
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>>344451687
He's ____OLD anon.
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>>344451817
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>>344449885
If you have a hacked 3ds you can install an English region, right?
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>>344451687
Old Sigma is forgot about being a cool dude like Young Sigma. He didn't see Kyle in the dcom facility and is also bent out of shape.
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>>344448680
Am I imagining things or did Carlos get the lewdest lines and scene in the game despite being played as the purest man there?
>We may never get out of this shelter...you know what that means, right?
>Dick right over Akane's crotch which was unnecessary for the ploy
>Hmm...I suppose I couldn't control myself?
>Huh, weird. The more you protest, the more I get the urge to stick it in you (which wasn't even an act--he actually meant it)

Junpei compares nipples sizes to cameras, there was a vague Diana/Sigma scene (basically just portrayed by clasped hands), and Phi says she has D-cups.
I have to be missing something here.
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>>344452241
>vague Diana/Sigma scene
There was nothing vague about that. Everyone knows what happened.
Also don't forget their shower shenanigans in the Locker Room
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>finally get to me Uchikoshi
>"hey faggot, fuck you, you made all this hype for this fuckin game?"
>Uchikoshi responds "well, look at this, thanks to your support the game was made, my motives are complex but the game itself have a goal, to get more zero escape fans"
>yeah but what about the other two fuckin games, there will be a clousure some day or some shit, questions answered maybe?
>"well, if the fanbase get more big, there will be a new game were all the shit i said "look for the new game" get explained, you are now in the timeline were a new game will be released"
>yeah but you said that there will be only 3...
>"like a said my motives are complex
>throws me a gun
>"now for your final desicion, you can decide if a new game is made (not killing me) or the saga ends with this abortion (kill me)
well /v/?
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>>344452187
So was all the Akane cockteasing in 999 a calculated move?
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>>344451687
He was a recurring character so he had to be nerfed and made useless to not alienate new players, that's why everything that matters is done by new characters
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>>344452447
I could never kill such a qt
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>>344449885
>not getting a vita

look at this faggot
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>>344452447
Shoot the hack.
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My watch edition finally got shipped
>mfw the whole week everyone saying its a 6/10 game
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>>344452372
I know, anon. I'm just talking about explicitly graphic stuff and lines more than what actually happened.

...But it's good to know that Carlos isn't the dirtiest one there. I forgot about the shower room stuff.
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>>344452701
I'd say it's a 7
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>>344451462
Why is Delta not the Sphinx?
>ZTD doesn't really work too well standalone (reliant on knowing stuff from the other two) and also doesn't do all that well as a followup to VLR and a finale to the series.
You summed it up as well. It tried to be both and didn't spectacularly succeed at either. Should've tried to be its own game with neither Sigma, Phi, or Diana there at first, just for some player mind fuck.
>>344451771
Well of course there's that too, but why point out the obvious?
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>>344452809
Man, those are some slutty boots.
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>>344452701
A 5 at best
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>>344452241
Plot twist, K was all along a voyeur watching all the lewd situations in Gab's body.

We might've not seen the lewdest timelines, but Kyle did. :^)
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>>344452449
Absolutely.
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daily reminder that ZTD is best played as a standalone game without playing the prequels or knowing they exist

no i'm not just saying that because i did it but because it's true
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Regardless of ZTD's quality, I'm glad we're getting fresh new memes
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>>344451687
>Bring back four of people's favorite characters for the finale
>Make one a useless idiot
>Make one dead for like two thirds of the game
>Make one an obnoxious edgelord
>Make one generic waifu who occasionally says smart thing

These motives are truly too complex
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>>344453163
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>>344453283
They're duteragonists in this game, so
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>>344452809
If anything Akane and Cuckpei are the one that could have been dropped, but we had to get the cringy sappy Romance ending to satisfy 999fags that somehow are still impressed by the childhood friend trope
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>>344453367
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>>344453143
Surprisingly I actually sort of agree

Some of it might not make sense but it certainly doesnt have the disappointment that comes with being a longtime fan and playing this
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Post memo drawings.
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Also disappointed that pic related didn't come true in any shape or form. It would've been cool as fuck.

Where the fuck is Light
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>>344453163
The best part of ZTD is the fact that the memes write themselves. VLR and 999 had certain parts like that but literally everything in ZTD is dumb as hell
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SLEEP WITH ME
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>>344453283
>>Make one an obnoxious edgelord
Fuck you, asshole. Grumpy Jumpy was so satisfying.
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>>344453963
And the madman did it!
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>>344453963
"n-no"
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>>344452794
I'd maybe give it a 7 if the ending was actually palatable.

The animation QUALITY and detached third-person cutscene perspective lol Delta cameras kept me from getting immersed in the actual story.

Trying to split the difference between "series finale" and "casual entry to the series" means we got plot points from 999/VLR brought up without actually resolving them beyond Delta's "timeline shift none of that even matters now, haha motives".

Meanwhile the third of the game spent with the new characters Eric and Mira fails to give them anything in the way of a meaningful character arc. Seriously, their purpose in the story is to get in the fucking way and cause bloody chaos right up until "Oh we can jump along with you to the good end because ~quantum effects~, thanks friends"

I just wish it wasn't such a mess.
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>>344453283
but Akane was always a generic waifu who occasionally says smart thing
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>>344448001
Not to forget Yu-No: The Girl who Chants Love at the Edge of the World. That game's the first ever VN to include a built-in interactive Flowchart that you can travel around in. The game is for the old 1996 PC98 but there's the Windows 2011 port of it that includes bonuses.

If you have a good sense of humour, the sexual notions that balances out the serious plot won't be a problem. Also the protagonist has the same voice actor as Adult Link~
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>>344453963
>damaged goods
No ty
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Do Junpei and Akane end up together?
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>>344454024
He was a tryhard

>Waaaaaah I have seen bad things last year! No one can understand it!
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>>344454229
Gotta admit it was entertaining to shoot a crippled blind guy with a crossbow, though.
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>>344454304
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>>344453963
I don't have the balls. I'm a coward.
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>>344453834
that's because the games are just collections of things the author finds interesting

that's why they are fun to play, but fall apart once you start actually thinking about them
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>>344453764
He just has a bunch of fans and is doing poetry or music or something. That's where he is in his life.
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>>344453034
I'd let Akane tease my cock.
Young Akane's reaction here kills me, that feel when watching your future self be manipulewd
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>>344454229
>casual entry to the series

This is the one. This is the mistake. That should never have been a thing. Never. This is the fucking finale to a story heavy game, of course you should be expected to play the previous ones before it.

And as such, we can tie everything together in the plot perfectly fine, because we know that you've already seen the plot of the previous titles. We can take it further and make it a truly epic finish.

But no.
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Im oddly intrigued by this game.

But is it really as pretentious as it sounds.

It seems like a lot of fucking up and going back and replaying segments. Because you cant get outcomes wihtout people dying.
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>>344454314
no, she left him for sigma
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>>344454304
Yu-no is the perfect example of providing answers to mysteries without providing *interesting* answers to the mysteries. The elf bullshit was a copout and the incest shit was dumb. Plus the ending was dumb as hell and very unsatisfying. Sayless best waifu, but mio best h-scenes
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>>344454314
why do people even care if two of the most generic characters in all japanese media end up together?
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>>344454783
You're wrong. At most you have to replay a part 2 or 3 times and you can skip scenes you've seen relatively fast.
There's no fucking up if you know the answer to continue the story
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>>344453501
Maybe if you had let your childhood crush ride shotgun inside your brain for a couple hours and then saved her life telepathically, things would have turned out differently for you.
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>>344454334
>He was a tryhard
And you're acting like that wasn't great? He's basically distilled edgy teen who's rebelling against his mom Akane.
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>>344454783
Have you not played the first 2? If not, do that first. The segment's are fine, but honestly moving away from a text presentation severely limited the ability to convey the plot with any form of subtlety whatsoever. Hence the memes. Fragments were a pretty good idea, though, and factor slightly into the story later.
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Question: was the budget for this game smaller than VLR's or something?

Everybody keeps saying that the 3d is much cheaper to make, but it's almost half the length of VLR and seems as if several hours of development and plot were just cut out of the game.

Yeah, I know VLR had a bunch of tedious parts. You don't have to tell me.
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I'm glad we can all agree the cinematic style was a mistake.

Junpei slowly punching Carlos when we're supposed to believe he's beating the shit out of him is just funny.
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>>344455143
Lol. A normal abusive relationship can only end in murder once, but not for junpei and akane.
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>no casualties
Reminder that every one of them was aware that Mira is a serial killer and were prepared to let her go
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Is Virtue's Last Reward an anagram for anything?

Zero Time Dilemma is an anagram for "Me? Im Zero, Im Delta"
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>>344455323
>Question: was the budget for this game smaller than VLR's or something?

duh?
VLR was a much higher budget game.
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>>344455526
Yeah that's by far the most retarded part of the game.

Can't believe they completely ignored all of that.
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>>344455323
It had the budget of two tacos and a coke.
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>>344455526
someone doesn't know about complexity
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>>344455489
I thought Carlos implied that Junpei was weak af during that scene anyways
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>>344455323
I don't see why they couldn't have just made a 999-like VN for an even lower budget. Plus, it could have conveyed so much more story. Like, you know, 999...
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>>344455143
I onlt wanted for him and Sigma to interact and Junpei having his usual "baww I saw the worst happening this last year" routine just for Sigma to get mad and point out how stupid he was acting and to come back complaining when he has to witness and endure the end of the world and 6 billion deaths
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>>344455526

>carlos didn't immediately shoot mira with the deagle at the end
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>>344455698
Sure but it still looked pretty bad.
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>>344455323
Sprites aren't the expensive thing here, especially not 999-tier terrible sprites.

The expensive 2D thing is drawing ALL the CGs and backgrounds.
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>>344454627
>the only conversations in ZTD I honestly cared about were alien hand syndrome and the cheap 999 fanservice
Uchi shouldn't be allow to make sequels, it just distracts from the delicious philosophy babble.
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>>344454314
Who's that in the picture supposed to be?
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>>344455489
If the animations were better, I feel like the cinematic style would've worked great for what ZTD was trying to do vs the traditional VN style of 999 and VLR

Instead we got this shit
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>>344455489
it's only a mistake if you cheap out

small studios make visual novels for a reason. they are cheap
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>>344455526
Wouldn't be the first for Spike.
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>Delta has a Quantum Computer
>uses it to see/calculate all possible timelines and what happens there

>Sigma has a Quantum Computer
>uses it to run a rabbit and some robot personalities on it

it must suck being outclassed by your own son at everything
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>>344456062

it's probably a lot easier to know how to perfectly build computers when you can mindhacc
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Junpei giving a ring to Akane and putting it on the wrong hand was cute and funny though.
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>>344456051
At least Toko is innocent
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>>344456000
I can't help but love the silly animations.
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>>344455636
>>344455689
Got it. I just wish we had the budget to look at (especially how much was dedicated to each aspect of the game)...guess we'll never see it.
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>>344456051
well the world is over in that game, this one has an established society full of beating hearts
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>>344454883
I found the ending pretty fulfilling in how it made sense that another world existed, and even more so how Takuya and Yu-No basically became Adam and Eve at the origin point of time.

The only unanswered question I can find in the game is who the unknown caller in Takuya's house is and the old condition of the warehouse when it was still newly built.
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>>344455738
ZTD being a trainwreck has the silver lining of making my nostalgic feelings for 999 that much stronger.

Though I wonder how they're going to pull off the two screen twist in the PC port.
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>>344455965
Lapis Lazuli
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>>344456357

which zero escape character is that?
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>Sigma suddenly caring about his other selves

He's been murdering other people and even himself on multiple timelines and now he suddenly gives a fuck?
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>>344456062
Isn't Delta taller too?
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>>344456445
It's not a ZE character. I just needed a picture of a character with a happy face to show my pleasure of Akane and Junpei ending up together. Don't be fucking autistic.
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>>344456626
He's slim while Sigma looks alpha as fuck.
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>>344456654
Not only shit tastes in ZE characters but also in gems.
Go away
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>>344456707
Well, he's 120 years old, and looks better than old Sigma.
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>>344456829
Old Sigma looked like an unkept hobo. >>344451687
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>>344456829
Old sigma got chopped up though, so he probably could't probably exercise ever again.
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Carlos is the real protagonist of ZTD right?
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>>344457121

yes
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>>344456829
But he also has both eyes and arms. And hasn't spent last 45 years indoors. Damn, those years on almost complete isolation on R9 must have been torturous. Now I wish for a slice of life series of Sigmas life on R9.
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One thing I'm wondering is, why should we give a fuck about the CQD 2 Timeline? If there's already an infinite amount of universes established where there are infinite possibilities, then we're just looking at one universe. Out of an infinite amount. Why should we care about this story knowing that it's just one of an unlimited amount of possibilities?
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Where does ZTD stand on the VNDB website? Or is it even on the list? I'm curious to know since the first two games are, and if the third game counts as a VN for being the cinematic style.
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Am I the only one who finds it extremely saddening that Diana got abused?
It's just so cruel to think that such a good-hearted person is treated in such a cruel way.
Why must it always be the good ones...
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>>344448502
What made the snail choose the path he did?
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>>344457225
Observer effect.
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Q team was a mistake.
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>>344457309

It felt kinda forced honestly
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>>344456051
>Danganronpa 1&2 subverted the serial killer trope in a fun way
>ZTD played it in the most nonsensical and boring way by having an eight years old kid getting away with murder and killing every character with a chainsaw/backstabbing but only once by her actual modus operandi
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>>344457005
When you reach your 40s you lose about 5% muscle mass every 10 years. Delta looks damn fine for someone his age.
Sigma can't even get a haircut.

>>344457197
Do you think Delta built the Quantum computer, created FtS, and developed R6 in a year? He must've worked harder than Sigma.
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>>344457367
>ORE NO TENSHI DAAAAAA
>gesticulates wildly with shotgun
>I'LL JUST KILL YOU ALL
>I'll just kill Delta OH NO DELTA IS MAKING ME KILL YOU ALL

Truly a deep and well-written character.
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>>344457005
Considering the damage he took during the explosion it is a miracle he is able to orchestrate the AB game. Let's count his injuries. Both arms, right eye. And some speculation: ruptured eardrums, organs ruptured from the blastwave causing internal bleeding, any damage to his brain from the blastwave and shrapnel that took his eye. So don't be harsh to Dr. Klim, he had a hard life.
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>>344457367
>cute lil' robo kid
>shotgunmancer
>largest tits in the series
>complex mind hacks
Q team was alright.
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>>344457309
That was baby-tier abuse
There is way worse stories of abuse in VNs
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>>344457719
Yes, Delta had much more to do do during those years, but the conditions he was in were differend. He must have had other people to help him, he wasn't living in near isolation on the moon, and as Akane mentioned in the End or Beginning segment in VLR, Sigma must also study those fields before he can build the AIs, Kyle and the AB game.
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>>344457590
>world goes to shit because some dumb blonde was born mentally ill
Sorry, that's as nonsensical as it gets.
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>>344457873
Everyone in the VLR timeline had a hard life. Kyle, Grandpa Junpei, Akane (has to literally die for her plan to work), the list goes on. It's so tragic but that's why I love VLR in general. Nobody really gets a happy ending. It truly is the timeline God abandoned.
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>>344458620
>world goes to shit because of a fucking Snail
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>>344458743
The snail saved the world, dumbass.
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>>344458743
What if the snail was being controlled by a parasite?
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>Make Delta release Radical 6 to stop one wing of Free the Soul (the Myrmidons) from fucking up humanity even harder because they will get out of his hand with morphogenetic bullshit.

>Setting ZTD means that he can do his shit without being too suspicious and convoluting hard the history so it isn't trivial for the "opposing" espers to come and fuck it up.

>This way keeps the moral ambiguity of Delta, wraps up the Myrmidons crap, even gives Dio more sense.

>It isn't as fucking cringeworthy as "I can't find this single terrorist dude"

But Uchikoshi is a hack
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>>344458743
COMPLEX MOTIVES
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>>344457121
>Diana being the star of artbook, American and Japanese covers
>Carlos end up being the real protagonist

Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
I'm kidding though. I prefer Carlos by leaps and bounds.
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>>344457256
It was removed since it's not a VN, not kidding.
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>>344459336
Well Carlos is the best husbando, Diana is the best waifu. I think all of the new characters introduced in ZTD are pretty good. Well COMPLEX MIND HACK man falls a bit short due lack of characterization. I wish there would have been an epilogue with the Klim family (did we ever get Diana's last name and age? She must be older than Sigma at that point (well atleast bodywise, oh naughty little Diana, going after boys younger than herself.) trying to talk things out.
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>>344458743
>take a different path because of a snail
>randomly killed by child Mira
>bad chain of consequences

>it was the snail's fault
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I just finished it

That was kinda abrupt

also MIND HACKING??? and is anyone going to explain why there just happened to be a mysterious old man there the entire time that nobody ever mentioned, or how it factored in to the puzzles or player deaths or anything?
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>>344460089
See
>>344449015
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>>344460089
>nobody ever mentioned
here we go again
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>>344460089
What if Delta mind hacc you to not register his presence in the game?
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>>344449015
>camera pans all the place and doesnt show him, but lol now you can see the shadow!
>no one calls Sean by name until the reveal even if they all the other names like 20 times for fragment

but sure 100% twist, game of the century.
Uchi can do no wrong!
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>>344458358
It's definitely the funniest team to have to wheel around a crippled old dude off-camera
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>think back to [WHO WILL YOU KILL] decision
>wonder if there's a reason why the field is 11 characters
>try entering ICECREAMMAN and HEARTRIPPER to see if it does anything
>ERROR

Seriously, what was the point of making it 11 characters? Was it just supposed to be a misdirect or something? Fuck.
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>>344450618
>doujins
about that, anon...
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>>344460568
I'm assuming all the text fields during decisions like that were the same length, in that case it would be 11 characters because you can type "I dont know" for Who killed Mira
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>>344460317
He mind hacks everyone around him to read their minds so he can move out of their line of sight whenever they're getting suspicious of him
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>>344460568
>Seriously, what was the point of making it 11 characters?

Arbitrary. If it were 10 characters you would have asked why it was 10. If it were 12 characters you would have asked why it was 12.
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One thing I would like to learn more is relationship between Dr. Klim and Akane and what happened during those years between ZTD and VLR. and of course, did they fuck?
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>>344461072
akane died as she lived

without passing on her morphogenetics
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>>344459861
Yup, Carlos is definitely the best husbando.
;)

Isn't Diana 22 or something? Her back story was a bit weird. Married and divorced, yet still managing to have become a nurse in the meanwhile. I don't think we ever got any new character's last name. They were irrelevant, I guess.
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>>344460790
that one's 11 characters, but they're not all the same. in the "Who killed Junpei?" decision, you only get 10 to work with.

>>344460946
I suppose, but it's still disappointing all things considered. as >>344460790
mentioned, the Mira decision gets 11 for "I don't know", so you'd figure they'd all have a max limit to fit in all of their possible answers.
>all the funposting about people killing BLICKWINKEL or SIX_BILLION meant nothing
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>>344461072
I really hope so.
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>>344461072
She saved herself for Junpei.
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>>344451817
I want to lift up that skirt and slap dat booty
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daily reminder that Sigma was supposed to be the playable character in D-Team but got changed because it would be unfair toward new players
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So what did 1904 Phi go on to do?
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I feel most people who followed the series are disappointed at ZTD due to how they handled Espers and the more fictional aspect of the game.

In 999 it was handled in a unique way, with the explaining of the Morphogenetic Field through myths, tales, and rumors that the various characters have heard of (Pic Related).

No one has the power to access the Morphogenetic Field on the fly, but people do have the inhibited trait to access it that can be awoken through certain means (that's why Ace did the Nonary Game and then Akane as well).

It is also implied that the Morphogenetic Field is the realm outside of the game, and you are the means that the info is transferred through, which adds more depth to the mechanics of Junpei talking to Akane and remembering what he did without just saying "That's how it is".

VLR also followed this to a degree, with Schrodinger's Cat and the Prisoner's Dilemma, but when they introduced the concept of "jumping" to separate timelines as a new power Espers have, that's when the games went more into the realm of "magic" than odd science fiction.

ZTD fully embraced the idea of "jumping" through the concept of SHIFTing, which was generally accepted by everyone in the game in the end to be just a power everyone has and can abuse through putting their lives in danger. Now everyone's a magical wizard that can send their consciousnesses to whatever timeline they desire.

I liked VLR a lot, don't get me wrong, it used the idea of jumping your consciousness sparsely, as if it was only something you should and could do once in a blue moon, but ZTD ran that into the ground.
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>>344455738
Because westerners like cinematic games.
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>>344461303
It's not a skirt, it's just a sweater.
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Going to post this without reading anything because I was interested in ZTD on PC.
Just finished every ending in 999 and holy shit, you guys weren't kidding this series is already shaping up to be cool as shit, going on to VLR now, I saw the true ending already, however I guess seeing all the other endings is kind of the point of the game.
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>>344461072
No. She was still devoted to Junpei. She still wore the ring.
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>>344461171
As she is married and a nurse, she must be atleast in her mid twenties. Those things take time.
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>>344460357
You don't need to be able to predict a plot twist in order for it to be good, though. The only thing that would have made it bad would have been if it was inconsistent, which it is not, as shown in that post of a screenshot of some posts.
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>>344461681
Have fun playing the best game in the trilogy anon, I was spoiled on VLR's ending too but that didn't stop it from being fantastic all the way through.
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>>344461343

Half into ZTD I stopped caring about the grand scheme and just wanted to know about the characters personal histories.

The game was also disappointing on that end.
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>>344457121
Seem like Carlos could jump timelines way more than the others could.
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>>344461343
I didn't really mind VLR's more "magical" approach by adding the ability to jump between timelines because the game took itself less seriously and was less gruesome than 999. It's also given limitations and used liberally like you said, which helped me suspend my disbelief.
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>>344460568
>BLICKWINKEL
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>>344461303
Right there with you, amigo
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>>344461964
why is she inside a washing machine?
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>>344461964
Ever Sevenclean
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>>344461964
never gets old
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>>344461714
except it is if the model of the character magically disappear when it should be visibile but then there's a shadow there

or when characters act different until the moment of the reveal and then they start adressing Sean by name like if they always did

etc.

but I guess fanboys can't see past this so the game is perfect
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>>344462096
>that look she gives carlos after he tried to rape her
Nice
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>>344462226
Washes off the totally-not-radical-6 tief blau
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Playing this with my gf. All she wants is for Q team to win. I just condemned C team to death. What the fuck am I in for?
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>>344462428
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>who do you want to kill
>uchikoshi

>no flavor text
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>>344448863
That there was only 1 ward. It was one of the few things i didnt get spoilered. Also when the flowchart changed
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>>344462573
I tried uchikoshi in so many places man

I even tried identifying INUBUSHI and KEIKO as the killer but no

shit sucks
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>>344457348
parasites.
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>>344462573
>live action recording of uchikoshi appears
>tells you in broken english that you should be thankful the game came out at all and feel ashamed you tried to kill him even if it was a joke
>system bricks
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>>344462376
Nigga, aint nobody's calling the game perfect. Probably most people here think its the worst in the series. It's just that intentionally omitting bits of dialogue (like the name) or camera angles are just as legit as ignoring reflections, never touching your own face, or not mentioning Superman jumping abilities
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>Finished downloading game
>Right before i hop playing see a lone random screenie of ztd with the ending "Shoot Delta"
>Confused but pay no attention to it and hop on the game
>Play for several hours
>WHO WILL YOU KILL?
>Mira
>Fucking eric jumps
>Eric
>Fucking mira fucks him up
>Q
>Name please
>uh...
>Delta?
>???????????????????
>What
>What the fuck just happened

Well that was confusing.
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>>344449019
what's the flowchart one?
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>>344448729
He beats up Carlos, he is hardly a beta.
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>>344462953
The flowchart expands after you learn about the shit with the watches.
In the grand scheme of things, nothing major, but it was good for that sense of "What the fuck is going on"
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>>344462953
After you find out about the watches, the flowchart re-aligns to show the actual relative order of the fragments
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