>fireball
>iceball
>earthball
Lighteningball
Cure
Cure 2
Cure 3
Cure All + Reraise
windball
>windball
Healball
lmao
>bethesda in charge of magic
even two worlds had better magic
>fire wall
>darkball
mmmmagical missle
>bioball
>lightball
rofl memeball am I cool like you guys XD?!?!?!
>football
EPIC I LOVE THIS THREAD XDDDD
>magic missile
prove me wrong, you fucking can't
niggerball
Hairyball
>>344446176
Best spell.
Basketball fags suck
Melonball
Polanball
>>344446221
You're not wrong, even if they call it other things in different games. There's always just a "magic" projectile with no element attached to it. Magic bolt is a common one.
Blueball
>>344446254
kek
Armageddon
Death
>>344446486it heals undead
Powerball
roald ball
Revive
>>344446221
Not all games have non-elemental magic
If a game only has Fire/Earth/Wind/Water, where would non-elemental magic come into play?
Volleyball
>>344446394
ayy xD
>>344446221
that pizza is not cooked.
>>344446635
If you can't cast magic missle you're not casting magic at all
>>344446771
do you liked Cooked Pizza? ;)
>>344446635
That's kinda rare though.
Wind Blade
>>344446635
It's still a type of magic.
The guy's giving the most obvious answer by saying, 'some sort of projectile'.
cock'nball, can be cast twice in one turn unless your name is lance
>>344444444
>>344445447
It'spancaketime!
Stalagmite!
>something that blows ice in a cone in front of the caster
Wait did I miss >>344444444
>fire for aoe damage
>air for single damage
>earth for dot
>water forfaggots
>>344447047
>>344447136
newfagball
>>344445880
I wish.
>>344445983
>Cure All + Reraise
This needs to be a thing more often. Maybe a secret end-game thing, but I see no good reason for a full HP heal when Cure 3 or its equivalent does the same thing, because it's so damn rare that a unit ever hits 9999 HP naturally.
>>344446017
This shit pisses me off in Grand Kingdom so much. FUCK.
>>344446176
>it isn't a foot in ball form
FUCKING TODD
>>344446560
I don't really get this shit. I mean, wouldn't it send them back to zero? It's death, not "more death". I get something being undead on a "negative life" scale, but death itself is zero.
>>344446635
>If a game only has Fire/Earth/Wind/Water
Then it's shit.
Also, heart?
>necromancy fucking blows
Double Fireball
>>344447165
>earth for dot
I CAN'T DEAL WITH IT
Meteor Storm
FIREWALL
LORD OF VERMILLION
DOUBLE STRAFE
>>344447165
you mean
>fire for DoT
>air for buffs
>earth for defensive spells
>water forcontrarians who don't want to use fire
>>344447321
>Holy is also gimped or absent from the game
Life sucks for necromancers and paladins alike.
Firestorm
>>344447165
>earth for DoT
Fuck you
Earth should be big meaty rocks crushing rude dudes
Instead it often gets to be puffs of green smoke
>>344447435
I never got why poison spells are related to earth
>>344445447
>Not Mega magic flame
>>344447993
Well in The Witcher a Druid can open up the earth and release poisonous gas duringThe battle of Kaer MorenSo I assume its something like that
>>344447993
Need plants and chemicals to make poison.
>>344448127
But that'salchemy
>>344447882
Dragon's Dogma got holy magic right - does insane damage to undead and feasible damage to everything else, and heals the user upon damaging enemies. Yet dark magic and the Necromancy spell still suck ass.
At least Paladins make excellent tanks in most games. Necromancers are just kinda there.
![wizard_by_adam_brown-d3iiyfb[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vmAhmJI.jpg "wizard_by_adam_brown-d3iiyfb[1].jpg")
>>344446221
Alright I have a challenge for yall.
Name every word for non-elemental magic damage type, just pure magic.
>magic
>arcane
>entropic
>energy
>esoteric
Keep going.
>>344446873
I'm more of a Cheese guy.
>>344448336
Aether
>>344448336
void
>>344448336
>astral
>>344448336
time
friendship
demonic
gravity
>>344448471
That's more of a dark magic thing
>>344448336
they call it Force in D&D
>>344448336
Mana
>>344448323
That's a good point. I can't really think of a game with great necromancy that wasn't made like 10+ years ago.
>>344448336
>pure
>>344448336
Almighty
>>344448285
>alchemy
and alchemy = earth
>>344446176
beat me to it.meatball
>>344448336
Conjuring
My fist
>>344448336
Magnets
>>344448323
Dark magic was obviously made for combos.
when shooting normal attacks they dawdle for a bit so that you can make them hit at the same time as a beginner level basic magic.
Necromany is used as a quick defensive spell that gives you time to charge a bigger spell.
![wizard_by_stefana_tserk[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1YeJZAM.jpg "wizard_by_stefana_tserk[1].jpg")
>>344448434
I'll let that one pass.
>>344448471
Can be defined as an "element".
>>344448521
Space-related, doesn't count.
>>344448572
All of those are "element" specific.
>>344448638
Does it include energy too, or simply telekinetics?
>>344448695
Thats a pass.
>>344448710
Also a pass.
>>344448727
Iffy, but I guess.
>>344448874
Depends on the context, but in certain settings/terminologies, yes.
>>344448925
How do they work?
>>344447218
Death doesn't do any math, it simply states that if you don't resist it you die, so i always imagine it heals undead because the actual effect doesn't matter to them and its probably the same type of spell used to resurrect them anyway.
>>344448827
>Gaaahh! You stained my robe! My only weakness!
>>344448336
Mind
Soul
Body
ragnarok_online_the_thread
![witches-wizards-4611[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wjt9kO7.jpg "witches-wizards-4611[1].jpg")
>>344449260
All easily categorized "elements", not correct.
>>344448336
necromancy
warp-mancy
transmutation
hexes
>>344449440
How exactly are mind and soul not non-elemental magic?
I can understand body being earth magic, or life magic, but Mind and soul have always been non elemental
![f5e15e16bea0d69cf0d521147f1cd9eb[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ubVwwqQ.jpg "f5e15e16bea0d69cf0d521147f1cd9eb[1].jpg")
>>344449483
The only one I'll give a pass to is hexes, albeit barely.
>>344445447
Diablo 1 basically established this.
Chain lightning
Blizzard
Icebolt
AoE heal - Castable on undead
Summons
Resurrects
Auras/Curses
Teleport
>>344448336
Aspir
>>344449483
>hexes
>necromancy
That's dark magic
![BlackRobeWizard_Are_You_a_Wizard-s435x571-66660[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mTCog5F.jpg "BlackRobeWizard_Are_You_a_Wizard-s435x571-66660[1].jpg")
>>344449771
Keep in mind we are not talking about the platonic elements here.
What I was after was every word for magic that deals purely in magical energy/mana direction/manipulation. No intermediaries or 3rd parties, just pure magical energy directed into a physically damaging form.
>>344450073
So then there is no such thing as non elemental magic?
Because it would just be aligned with the "magic" element
>>344450073
how about channeling ?
![o-DUMBLEDORE-WIZARD-SCHOOL-facebook[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4TiRaQ3.jpg "o-DUMBLEDORE-WIZARD-SCHOOL-facebook[1].jpg")
>>344450424
>magic
>arcane
>esoteric
>energy
>pure
>mana
>entropic
>aether
All of these have one thing in common. They reference magical energies without assigning them to a specific purpose or function.
Thats what I'm after.
>>344450543
Channelling is a means of transmitting the energy, not a way to define the energy itself.
>>344448336
Ether
Anima
>>344450073
The criteria is a little difficult since games call their shit whatever they want.
For instance I was just playing 7th dragon and the unaspected type of magic with no strengths or resistances is called 'space' and also encompasses power buffs, shields and teleportation.
>>344446635
It's called arcane magic. Pure magic.
>>344451513
Its a difficult question, i know, especially because certain games bundle the pure "magic missile" into schools of magic encompassing other aspects as well.
Its the same with Oblivion's "entropic" spells. They are simply pure damaging magic within that game, but you could argue that "entropic" falls under certain categories like corrosion, decomposition, time, etc.
>>344452013
This is true.
![a35336438c83d47fb2b8d352c6f55975[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dT2kGtv.jpg "a35336438c83d47fb2b8d352c6f55975[1].jpg")
>>344452013
Correct
>>344452183
We have a bright one in our midst.
Why would you add Fireball when you could add Imolate instead? And it combusts low HP enemies for a lot of damage?
>>344446221
Godly if the missile spam gets real.
>>344451091
But those all do have a specific purpose or function.
Magic is self explanatory
Arcane and esoteric are the same thing, and is basically just things that most people don't know about.
Energy and entropy are two sides to the same coin
Mana is just magic
Aether is just void magic with more magic
There's no such thing as magic without specific purpose or function without being so vague as to not even be considered a singular "element"
>>344451091
>>Thats what I'm after.
What is your goal, Wizard? Why do you seek the many names of the purest essence in the world
>>344448336
Thamaturgy
>>344453030
Prestidigitation is illusion magick
>>344453194
Prestidigitation is sleight of hand and stage magic, yes. Thamaturgy literally means "miracle working" idk why you'd put them in the same boat
![5eb[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cY6w3hg.jpg "5eb[1].jpg")
>>344453596
Because there's no such thing as miracles
No time stop no buy
Also I always wondered how pure arcane spells would work in terms of how the damage someone? Like, earth spells crush you, fire burn obviously and so on, but I can't imagine how pure magic would work. Just phisycal damage I guess
![wizard-casting-spells_copy_6010[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fJZbUNh.jpg "wizard-casting-spells_copy_6010[1].jpg")
>>344452863
You are mostly correct.
Energy and entropy are not two sides of the same coin though.
As the anon stated in >>344452183 though, these things can be difficult to define and seperate.
>>344453027
To name the nameless. To catch the uncatchable. To manage the fury and unruly essence of reality.
>>344453030
Thaumaturgy is a practice of directing energies and thoughts, not a definition of the energy itself.
>>344453916
Arcane magic gives you a headache and makes your tummy hurt
>>344454001
How are energy and entropy not two sides of the same coin?
Energy magic would be either damaging enemies or buffing allies with excess energy, whereas entropy magic is usually siphoning off the excess energy of others to use in spellcasting.
One gives energy, one takes energy away
>>344454048
So powerful until you die? Sounds extremely painful.
>>344454001
>To name the nameless. To catch the uncatchable. To manage the fury and unruly essence of reality.
You fool! You're dabbling in forces beyond our control! You will cause the world nothing but misery!
I'll put an end to this, Wizard!
![the_wizard_by_sprsprsdigitalart-d6kwylb[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jznas0V.jpg "the_wizard_by_sprsprsdigitalart-d6kwylb[1].jpg")
>>344453916
Pure magical energy directed at someone will damage in them in a number of ways depending on the intensity.
Weak magic will simply weaken and tear the bonds between molecules. Strong magic can distort your very presence in reality.
>>344454209
Like you said, energy can do a number of things, but entropy is destruction in its purest form. It dissolves energy into near-nothingness and it dissolves matter.
>>344454429
I would not venture down this path had I not the means to reach my goal. Rest assured.
>>344448336
Holy
>>344454737
Entropy has absolutely nothing to do with physical matter, it is purely about energy, and energy can never be lost or destroyed. Entropy magic could kill a person by stealing their available energy, but it couldn't actually destroy someone's form.
You honestly sound like a novice mage.
>>344454737
>I would not venture down this path had I not the means to reach my goal. Rest assured.
I shall see if you truly have the means to reach your vile goal
Have at you, you frail old man!
![kodi-wizard[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/oPHPG8e.jpg "kodi-wizard[1].jpg")
>>344455005
If all the atoms in your body were suddenly devoid of energy, would they still cling together?
>>344455005
matter equals energy bitch
>>344454209
Energy is energy.
Entropy is the fact that conversion of energy isn't easy to do both ways, so it tends to go in one specific way.
Entropy is a part of energy, not a "coin side" of it.
>>344455297
You can't take energy from an atom without destroying it. destroying an atom creates enromous amounts of energy. That kind of spell would basically turn your victim into a nuke, which is more of a fire spell if you ask me. It also shows how entropy is the flip side of energy
>>344455539
In the context of real life physics, yes. I know that entropy is basically energy inefficency, but in a magic context it is basically vampire magic.
>>344445447
>Goldballs
>>344448336
Would Hama and Freikugel count?
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zePUvku.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>344455664
I understand you confusion but it is like I said. Entropy is the very concept of destruction, matter and energy, when taken to its extreme.
We are diverging from the topic though. What other words for "pure" damaging magic can you name?
>>344456124
I am not familiar with these. Please elaborate.
>>344456325
I dunno, your version of entropy still sounds more like death magic to me
![GW2_HumanNecromancer-1280x720[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7bIV8FZ.jpg "GW2_HumanNecromancer-1280x720[1].jpg")
>>344456787
Death magic only affects living things.
Entropy affects everything, both living and inanimate things.
>>344448127
Yeah, plants are grown with water, poisons are made with water
