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Exist a decent MMORPG there isn't FF14?
>>344414802
fuck off ESL poster
>>344415295
yes?
>>344414802
What the fuck?
MINFILLIA IS DEAD
>>344414802
>mfw I made a dude and took like 4 seconds to create him because I thought I wasn't going to play much
>play everyday now and regret not taking more time on my character
rip
>>344414802
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
>>344415725
We love her asscrack
>>344414802
Minfillia is such a shit character. Why do Japanese devs always have a shitty self insert waifu characters that hog up screentime in their games?
>>344415908
You get a fantasia for being subbed for more than a month
>>344414802
Shes so perfect <3
It's pretty much the best game ever
So we're all agreed, right?
>>344416657
What is this trying to convey?
>>344414802
>Exist a decent MMORPG there isn't FF14?
Yes.
>>344416657
>all shit
yes
>>344416034
I quit the game because the story was so bad. And she and her 'rebel group' was the biggest reason why.
>>344416657
>the old republic
That shit doesn't have the right to be compared with anything on that list.
>>344416747
Does anyone from /v/ actually play DQX? I'd love to give it a try.
>>344417215
You can play the early part of the game which is offline. But after that, you are IP blocked. Hopefully with the game going to China soon, there won't be an IP block. Might even be an English translation as some Chinese games get them.
>>344417010
>her 'rebel group'
I think you don't understand the story then desu.
Only criticism I will generally agree upon when leveled against the story is that it starts off far too slow, it barely kicks in and gets interesting untill you're past lvl 30ish
>>344417448
Oh, well I've played the offline part, made my character and everything. Was just wondering if it would have been worth it to bother with the online portion without any friends.
>>344417513
>until level 30ish
That's when the story gets the most annoying. Since you keep having to do one stupid quest halfway around the world, then run back to the hideout. And then after doing all these quests, the hideout gets attacked. MILFinna is just fucking useless and I'm glad she died. Then they revived her and made her even MORE cliche.
ESO is good if you like skyrim
BDO is good if you like sandbox mmos
FFXIV is complete fucking themepark trash with a dev team with its head up its ass
>>344418840
This game is pretty shit. With the input lag and server problem is literally unplayable.
>>344418840
>>344419028
what game?
>>344418973
>ESO is good
>XIV is bad
kek
>>344416657
>shitting on Pepsi and Burger King
>>344414802
>>344416657
There's no Burger king where I'm from, is it really better?
Also you can't find Pepsie anywhere but in KFC.
>>344416657
Burger king is dope as fuck but not one near me for like more than 30 miles
>>344419113
Riders of Icarus
>>344415908
You get a Fantasia for one month sub. If you wasted that upgrade to Heavensward CE on the mob station and get another one (as well as a mount, minion and glamour shit)
how legit is ESO, honestly
I've been curious to try it since I heard they fixed a lot of problems with it, supposedly?
>>344419603
>>344419712
>Burger King
>Good
Not in America. And their $10 meal is the dumbest thing I've seen since the six dollar burger at Carl's Jr.
>>344414802
I'm glad this slut got mindraped by the crystal.
>>344419943
it isfun
>>344414802
Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms
How long does it take for a pair of race chocobo to breed and produce offspring?
>>344419943
Probably the best large budget MMO on the market right now.
It's not your typical WoW clone. It's got Skyrims gameplay but improved. It gets rid of the trinity and allows actual character customization. End game isn't a gear treadmill and based on your build there is a whole bunch of viable sets. Dungeons actually have good designs and various mechanics, hell they're not even all instance based.
It started out really shit, but has gotten significantly better recently. It still suffers from a lot of MMO syle quests, but that is the only really bad thing about it.
Old School Runescape, and you all know it is true
>>344415807
STEVE JOBS IS DEAD
>>344420264
Has the werewolf/vampire thing been changed at all?
>>344416657
This image implies there's anything at all good about The Old Republic and that Final Fantasy XIV isn't the best so it's wrong.
>>344420814
I haven't played around with them, but werewolves and vampires exist and are a skill tree you can unlock by getting infected by one of those.
You'll have to specify what you're talking about when you say have they been changed.
>>344414802
>>344416034
>>344417513
>>344419603
literally the most boring and forced character in the entire game
>>344416657
>FF14
>Digital style!
Checks out.
Fairly new ffxiv player here, is duty finder faster than fates for a tank?
Also what server should I switch to, Gilgamesh, Excalibur, or Balmung. I'm ok with rping and looking to raid at least casually. Serious would be good, but I have experience training literal retards to accomplish things.
>>344419414
ESO is actually a pretty good single player game.
>>344419414
xiv is bad
xiv hasnt even churned out their once every 3rd of a year content patch yet and its the 7th month this year
in that time, ESO released 3 expansions, with huge amounts of content
you're all just /vg/ shitters defending a themepark turd
the themepark format is dog shit, and that is why nobody is playing ffxiv anymore
>>344420264
Hail Sithis, stranger!
>>344421240
Tank >> Healer >>>>>>>>>>>>>> DPS for queue times, in general.
Leveling dungeons are the most pronounced for this disparity.
However Tanks often have the worst queue for the 24-mans, since there's only 1 per party.
>>344421168
>forced character
lmao
>>344421240
>>344421420
I misread your question.
Answer: Yes, do dungeons.
>>344420264
>It gets rid of the trinity
Why you gotta lie?
>>344421420
Jeeze 1 tank for a 24 raid? that's...weird
>>344421240
I was on Balmung and there was plenty of raiding going on. Casual raids are really really easy to get into, probably regardless of which server you pick
>>344421717
3 parties of 8, so 3 tanks.
Better then 6 of them running around. That's too many for practically any encounter.
>>344421717
The 24 man content is 3 parties of 8, so three tanks in total.
>>344421346
XIV drops content patches every 3 months and we're getting a new patch on the 19th. We just got a new major patch about a month and a half ago too.
Eat shit pleb.
>nobody is playing ffxiv anymore
Only in your own delusional made up reality.
Is ToS any good?
>>344414802
No and it's fucking sad that a WoW clone doing better than the real deal and other MMOs that try to be unique.
Palace of the Dead is either going to suck balls
Or be awesome and funI'm assuming it's going to suck
>>344421346
xiv just got a big patch a little bit ago and is getting another huge patch in like 10 days
>>344422115
No.
>>344421597
it gets rid of the trinity as every class can take any role
>>344421346
Confirmed for not knowing what the fuck you're talking about. We just got a bit patch and had the first one back in like March. You're a nigger.
>>344422170
you mean the same patch theyve been trying to implement since like 5 months ago?
lol
>>344421949
see above
pleb
What other MMOs get a major update every 3 months? Every other MMO seems to get meaningful battle content every 8-12 months.
>>344419967
Mines here in Princeton, WV isn't bad.
I think Wendy's takes the cake tho, their burgers shit all over McD & BK's for some reason
I wish we had an In & Out or a Wataburger
5 Guys is too goddamn expensive for me. And they use burger bones too goddamn small IMO
>>344422290
You don't know shit about what you're talking about, do you?
>>344422290
>you mean the same patch theyve been trying to implement since like 5 months ago?
>lol
Deep Dungeon was ANNOUNCED a few months ago that time
You're retarded, stop posting any time
>>344422258
what's wrong with Tree of Savior
>>344422154
Yeah, probably.
I appreciate that they try new kinds of things that might be hit or miss but all these misses are really wearing down my patience.
>>344421346
I mean I'm all for honest hate against FF14 since I'm pretty bored of it but you don't need to lie.
>xiv hasnt even churned out their once every 3rd of a year content patch yet
They've had at least 2 major patches this year.
>ESO released 3 expansions, with huge amounts of content
What you're calling expansions are really just major patches. For those who don't know, you can either buy content updates or you get them for free for subscribing. ESO "DLC" is usually another zone very similar to the 20 or so that launched with the game and maybe one dungeon.
>themepark
They're both themeparks.
>>344422482
Almost everything.
>>344422407
Only FFXIV gets updated consistently.
For the record, WoW hasn't received a new content patch since last year. They are finally getting their pre expansion patch after 12 months of nothing but Hellfire Citadel.
How do I play WHM without shitting myself? I have it at 40 and I cannot for the life of me heal, position, pay attention to status effects, and DPS without sweating bullets unless it's a normal pull. It might have just been because of Cutter's Cry and its sandsplosions all over the place but I fucked up royally last time, especially at the final boss. Haven't healed in two months because of that.
>>344422276
That's like saying WoW gets rid of the trinity because it has druids and paladins.
>>344414802
Should I blow 15 bucks on Minfilia's outfit?
>>344422581
I liked the idea of Lords of Virminion but
Christ it's just not fun
>>344416657
Don't disgrace KFC by comparing to TORtanic
>>344422843
Do you use a controller? For some reason I get stressed out healing on a controller. Keyboard+Mouse makes everything way easier with mouseover macros and focus target healing.
>>344422843
You drop a Regen, start dpsing and briefly pop out of cleric stance whenever someone needs a heal. All you have to do is stay aware of what your party is doing and know when big damage spikes are coming. WHM is entirely about situational awareness.
>>344421949
>XIV drops content patches every 3 months
lol
>>344422843
Just gotta get used to it
Once you've got where all your buttons are memorized and don't even have to think about what you need to press to ensuna that guy, or hit that guy with a cure, it becomes a lot easier.
Practice makes perfect.
>>344423114
LoV and the diadem mean I have absolutely no expectation of quality for their new dungeon thing.
>cancerous /vg/fags still trying to shill their dead ass game
>>344422843
Have Regen up on the tank always during fights (don't apply it before a pull through or you'll rip aggro). Cure when the tank is around 75%. Use Cure II only in emergencies. Presence of Mind and Divine Seal are your oh-shit buttons.
Honestly if you keep Regen up you should have a ton of time to DPS in cleric stance.
>>344423237
Major content patches are tri-monthly. They drop regular patches in between major patches.
>>344422814
>Patch 6.2 came out when Heavensward released
>Still on Patch 6.2 today
>>344423291
>dead ass game
t. lonely saltlord
If you took a break from creating boogeymen to justify your hate for the game you might have fun with it.
>>344423385
L O L
>>344421346
>nobody is playing ffxiv anymore
I'm on fucking Leviathan, not even one of the most popular servers and I get queue when I try to play during Friday night.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>344423181
KBM, there's just so many actions to keep in mind
>>344423245
>>344423218
>>344423319
I've only done a couple dungeons while having Regen, didn't know it was so essential. I've just been Cure 2ing like usual, ran out of mana at the boss. Thanks for the tip.
>>344422843
Tell your allies to stop getting hit by the sand explosions. Regen the tank and dodge Chimera's attacks.
>>344414802
I really wish there was an MMO out there with as much quality polish as FFXIV. Every new MMO that comes out these days feels like a cheap F2P mobile game and runs like unoptimized shit for some reason.
>>344423679
Regen pretty much turns your Cure into Cure II while saving shitton on mana.
>>344422843
Drop dps aside from shitty DOTs until you're more comfortable with the content. Cutter's Cry is also a dungeon where shitter dps will take a lot of avoidable damage.
>>344421597
There is only one time in the entire game you actually need a dedicated tank and healer. Outside of this any party composition can do any content.
>Want to get back into FFXIV
>So behind I'll probably never catch up with the latest stuff
>>344423319
>Cure when the tank is around 75%
For most fights this is completely unnecessary. You can easily wait until the tank is at sub 50%, even 30% if you can tell they aren't shit. With Asylum and Tetragrammaton and a competent group, you can get through most pulls with 2-3 GCDs used on healing and just dps the rest of the time.
>>344423679
Never spam Cure 2. Either use it in emergencies, when you get a Freecure proc or if you know you can regen your mp between packs and just want to get the tank healed quickly so you can dps more. Divine Seal, Regen and Cure are your best friends at low levels. At higher levels, Asylum and Tetragrammaton make your healing even more MP efficient.
>no mmo to play
>dangerously close to start playing wow again just to get to do some leveling
help
Want to play a MMO but all of them use a shitty fantasy settings.
Already played TSW and want to play something else since funcom decided to ruin the game.
Life is suffering.
>>344424005
Actually, it's almost sad how easy it is to catch back up. My friend joined my server, played a few hours a day for two weeks. He's level 60 with two classes and his main has a better gear score than I do.
>>344424059
WoW leveling sucks, you see nobody in leveling zones anymore and it's so easy to level up that you can just AFK and setup a script to grind for you.
>>344424005
There's a lot of easy to get catch-up gear.
I resubbed a month ago and I'm more than halfway ilvl240 gear, with rest 230.
>>344414802
Eve Online
>>344424059
I played wow from 2004 to 2014 religiously, primarily for the lore, exploration, and Pvp. Recently I tried Guild Wars 1, then ultimately 2, and fell in love with the world. The writing is a little crappier in 2, but the world more than makes up for it. The PvP is alright - I mostly do Wvw which is a persistent world Pvp - but the leveling is the best there is. 1-80 is free right now. If you need to scratch the itch, this might do it.
That being said, I know a lot of people who can't get into it, so it's very subjective.
>>344424386
Did he transfer or start a new character? 2 level 60s in 2 weeks sounds like nonstop play to me.
>>344424519
>spreadsheets and AFK in space: the game
>>344414802
desu cuck senpai
>start DRK 45 quest
>quest text refers to Fray as a woman
did i miss something or was that supposed to be a reveal
>>344425750
fray = you
>>344415807
wrong
>>344422843
Healing is all about multi-tasking yourself.
You pop a regen on the tank, DPS for a bit, watch out for your tank HP, if it get drain too quickly switch back to heal, or just watch for when Regen is off to put it again.
When you know that status effects needs to be cleansed just watchout for their HP bars on the group, the statue effect will always appear first on the line of buff/debuff.
DPS as much as you can while healing too, everyone in the party will be thankful to you!
>>344416657
>Tortanic = linux
Fuck you.
From /g/, with love
>>344425883
guess i asked to be spoiled
>>344426175
I know I'm late to the party but will I be able to do all the dungeons and raids in this game?
Or does nobody run them?
BEST CLASS, JOB and 50-60 JOB QUEST!
>Class
PGL
>Job
NIN
>50-60 JobAll the one I did (WHM, SCH, WAR) were boring.
>>344419603
McDonalds is god tier compared to Burger Shit.
>>344426765
Pretty much everything is being run, other than Coils. Finding people for those will take time.
>>344426806
Only one I can comment on is Class, and it's ROG. PGL is a close second though.
>>344427003
ROG was indeed awesome.
>>344426806
>50-60 Job
MNK. It's got waifus, senpais and dragonballs.
>>344427114
Guess I'll work on it!
>>344426806
PGL, NIN, MCH
>>344426806
>Class:
ALC. ARC would be first if the 'Guildmaster' section hadn't been in and the entire quest was about K'yliah and her story
>Job
Partial to BRD
>50-60
DRK
>join in XIV threads even though I've stopped playing
It's hard to let go.
>>344426806
>Class
PGL
>Job
WHM because Raya-O is cute. Cute! SCH is pretty neat too.If you ask me, lalas turning into tonberries is an improvement.
>50-60
I actually liked both WHM and AST. SMN was probably the best overall out of the ones I've done though.
Anyone still play?
XIV's content update may be every 3 months and polished but it has no longevity whatsoever, and any content from that patch dies when the next one arrives.
90% of ARR's content just went down the drain after Heavensward. Such a waste, but that's themeparks for you.It will never surpass FFXI.
Runescape is the only Western mmorpg worth considering atm.
>>344427606
Shut up and make me Russian pancakes.
>>344422290
Typical eso player that makes shit up and doesn't even know what they're talking about
>>344427606
Also not to mention boring. Dungeons are boring but you had to spam those everyday for tomes, trials were boring, you can be done with the EX trials on the first week if you're lucky, the alliance raid is extremely boring, the normal mode raid is okay and the hardest part about the savage raid is finding people to do it with because nobody does it.
The weekly shit like tomes and scrips makes this game feel like a chore, or you'd be behind everybody.
>>344427593
Hot garbage even among F2P MMOs. Hasn't been good since Dual Blade release. Mindless button mashing and killing the same shit over and over and a market inflated with hackers and botters.
Wouldn't go back to it unless they magically removed all the retarded classes they added.
>>344427606
Yeah, that sucks and it's one of the shittiest parts about themepark MMOs. Maybe this new dungeon thing will be good and have more longevity.
>>344427606
>It will never surpass FFXI.
Already has by numbers.
>>344421346
>eso retard calling other games dead
Eso was literally dead with under 10k players before it went f2p and it's still slow
>>344427606
Everybody is still doing old ARR shit all the time. That's why roulettes exist, pony/glamour farms, bonus farms for relic, etc.
>>344428227
>dead with under 10k players
Shit nigga, I wish my favorite mmo had even half that number. Any mmo with close to 10k is alive if you ask me.
>Pony farms are all scams unless all party members are within the same FC or group of friends
I'm never gonna get these fucking things
>>344427994
With the way this game is designed, you're never behind anyone. You can get to max item level cap in a month or two by spending 2 hours max each week.
Is there even a good mobile MMORPG that isn't dead in android /v/? Preferably anime styled like PSO2 or FFXIV so I can go full weebo?
>>344428216
It'll never surpass FFXI for being a good MMO. FFXIV is simply a cash grab MMO that's full of fan service (literally looks like a spin-off game instead of a main FF game for having so much fan service and being so unoriginal) and attracts the shitter community in MMOs who can't pull their weight.
This game is declining subs fast anyway. It already lost half its subscriptions since ARR.
>>344428363
>Roulettes
So once a day?
>pony/glamour
Irrelevant.
>>344428547
Those are some low expectations.
>>344428547
I've never seen someone legitimately enjoy Wildstar. Even F2P couldn't save it. Really sucks, I was hoping it would be good.
Is the ERP in this game still good at least?
>>344428705
FFXI was a cash grab MMO too you retard, it was designed for weeb retards on PS2 who were too casual for Everquest. Just like FFXIV was designed for weeb retards on PS3 who were too casual for WoW.
>>344428705
>This game is declining subs fast anyway. It already lost half its subscriptions since ARR.
There a source on this?
>>344428879
It doesn't even have a cash shop.
>>344428891
>>344427606
Realistically the same was true for FFXI. The only difference was that 90% of the player base never got better than junky AH gear. With only a few exceptions gear was rendered obsolete with the next raids / HNMs released. That said XI had way more interesting gear to pursue. But people thinking Sky / Kings gear was anything but junk in ToAU is lol. But that's how it was.
>>344428838
>>344428962
this isn't even a source, this is just a random survey done by some guy with no citations.
>>344428838
It is if sexting a 30 year old man pretending to be a car girl is what gets you off.
>>344428962
ah yes, the "sub list" not even in this language that's constantly used to shitpost
>>344428962
>It doesn't even have a cash shop
Does now. Pay for more Mog Wardrobes.
>>344429021
And you'll believe this game has 6 million players because SE said so, without any statistics even?
That picture was a survey that used the Lodestone.
>>344428962
cash shop =/ cash grab
>>344429032
Does he pretend well?
>>344429136
I don't believe anything, I'm just saying that your source has no citations and can't be trusted. I can make a spreadsheet in MS Excel too that says this game has 100k subs and my source is "hurr the lodestone".
>>344428737
They're realistic expectations. The era of me too mmos is over, not it's mobas and hero shooters. WoW can be big because it's WoW. ffxiv can be big because it's final fantasy. Everyone else has to carve out their own small niche.
>>344428792
Plenty of people enjoy wildstar, it's why the game is still limping along. It's just not popular and some people seem to not want to try it just on principle.
>>344429162
FFXI is far from being so fanservicey compared to FFXIV
>>344419943
I found it incredibly boring and feel no motivation to play. It's like a chinese elder scrolls game, feeling like a cheap knockoff that misses the soul. so directionless
>>344429310
and that's why FFXI flopped
>>344426952
Yeah, if you're poor and want soggy little sodium patties.
Wendy's is better than all of them, though.
>>344429635
Lol
It flopped because the grind was crazy.
>>344429635
>FFXI flopped
You don't even know what you're talking about get out of this thread
>>344429635
>One of the top grossing FF games
>flopped
>>344429635
I didn't even play the game and I know youre bullshitting
>>344427593
I've fallen asleep playing that game with its chill music. Everything about it is a fever dream to me though. Just a lot of bright colors and areas that blend together weirdly as the story and quests aren't very interesting.
>>344429745
FFXI was a game built for weeb NEETs, nothing was challenging just a huge timesink grind.
>In a Wiping City run
>One groups Tank has quit
>They're seriously debating if Titan-Egi can be a good substitute to get us through Ozma
>>344429834
>>344429747
it flopped creatively. nobody was excited to play the game, they were just excited to meet people.
>>344426806
Dark has the best job quest, it's not even close.
>There are people who still think that Heavensward was supposed to change the game entirely and that Yoshida lied
>>344430301
Heavensward was a disappointment. It's just patch 2.6 with a $40 price tag.
At least the story was good, but it went downhill in the next patches.
>tfw XIV's story will never be good
>>344430301
HW did change the game, lvl 50 content didn't have a meta, HW brought rotations, there is a hybrid job speculated for 4.0 and skill trees too, how does all this stuff not change the game entirely?
I heard there was a ring that would give you 30% more exp, how do you get it?
>>344430715
>lvl 50 content didn't have a meta, HW brought rotations
>>344430651
What other patch had story quests and battle content that lasted as long as Patch 2.6?
>>344430760
Finish the hall of novices
>>344429870
>Nothing was challenging
That's what shitters wants to believe.
When a single player could achieve what a full party could not, then there's challenge. XI was actually one of the rare MMO where the gap between an average player and top players was insanely huge, even if both had a similar playtime and even with similar gear.
We're far from today's MMO where having 10% more DPS than your peers because you maximized the potential of your 1-2-3-2-3-1 rotation would be enough to be called a "good player".
>>344430760
get to level 15. talk to one of the 'The Smith' npcs. you can find them at the bars in each city, outside most dungeons and outside Aleport. That will unlock Training Scenarios, which you do easy shit for about 20 minutes. Finish all of them and you get a the ring
>>344430651
>It's just patch 2.6
Heavensward was 1-50 all over again and brought new maps and the story is pretty good
>>344430857
>>344430909
Like, every single one?
For DPS, Healer and Tank?
>>344430301
People thought Heavensward's 3.0 patch was going to bring the same amount of change as 1.0 > 2.0 did. Basically redesign how the entire game works from the server structure, game engine, and battle system.
>>344430981
just one role
>>344419770
When is it coming to the west? Apparently it's supposed to be Aion's and Tera's illegitimate lovechild?
>>344430791
2.0? They're awfully similar.
>>344430924
And those maps were never used again after that.
>been wanting to play the new arrival on steam Rider of Icarus
>keeps disconnecting when I try to enter the world
>>344431051
Sweet, I was working on the DPS one.
Thank you!
Have an oppai lala.
>>344431208
2.0 was a full game release, 3.0 was an expansion.
It should be impressive that an expansion brings as much playtime as a full game.
>>344430779
lvl 50 "rotations" are literally 1-2-3-1-2-3
fuck take black mage for example Fire 1 spam until MP is empty then switch to ice stance until MP is full again you call that a rotation?
>>344431208
>And those maps were never used again after that
Aquapolis, hunts, fate grinding, gathering, quests that are added in later patches, etc.
>>344414802
Tell me this isn't GOAT
>>344431446
>Tfw I made 1M200k in a Aquapolis run last night
>>344431312
>impressive
It's not even impressive. If you've been at the time of release, you'd be regretting that you spent $40-60 on such a shit expansion.
>>344431446
>hunts that last not even 5 minutes
>Aquapolis takes you into an instance
>quests that disappear forever when you're done with it
>FATEs
Lmao!
>>344431570
Do people play this? I really got into RIFT, would I like this?
>>344416657
The fuck is that shit at the end?
>>344431663
t. downer
>>344416657
Classic Coke is literally the only good thing in that entire picture.
>>344431663
You really don't sound like a veteran MMORPG player
>>344414802
How is Black Desert? I heard it's getting a major content update soon.
It looks fun, but I have doubts. Hoping for an actual legit response.
>>344431978
And why?
>>344432091
It's barebones.
>>344432126
You expect an "expansion" to be as big as the vanilla, that has never happened in the history of MMORPG, that's why
>>344431663
>hundreds of people zerging one monster
>still have to explore zones with no waymakers to find the map location that takes you aquapolis
>quests with a plot shouldn't be repeatable
>FATEs are essential to relic or leveling up alts instead of sitting in a DPS queue for an hour
>>344432214
Not even. My only gripe with Heavensward was that it never brought any change aside from having the level cap to 60 and adding 5 more skills to every job.
>>344432290
>Doing FATEs to level up in Heavensward zones
The fuck you doing?
>>344431729
Most likely, its been around forever and you can get to level 75 without paying Im pretty sure. Either way you do a ton of stuff without paying as well so I think you'll be content for sure.
>>344431120
You can play it right now on the website or through Steam. It's pretty bad
>>344432498
They buffed Heavensward fates almost a year ago nigga. Now they give better EXP per hour than dungeons if you have shitty queue times.
>>344432290
finding the area the treasure is when doing maps is retardedly easy and takes a minute to figure out
I seriously need a good lightweight MMO or persistent multiplayer game. How come there's nothing like that.
>>344432498
Those "5 more skills to every job" added a lot of depth to the battle system,you need to know what you're doing and use CDs properly or you get wiped in P1 of fucking sephirot ex, or you can just keep being a faggot noob and keep spamming your 1-2-3 combo
>>344432825
I give you two minutes to find out the exact location of this map.
>>344414802
I want to force her onto her stomach so I can sit on her and fuck that ass crack.
>>344432817
I've done them for the relic and dungeons are still more efficient in leveling up than FATEs because they scale really badly that a FATE might take more than 15 minutes to accomplish with a full party.
>>344432859
>FFXIV's combat
>Depth
Even 1.23's combat has more depth than 3.0. Some jobs changed drastically like BLM, maybe BRD, some really didn't. Mostly it's the healers.
>1.23 PLD is just like 3.0 PLD right now
>>344433094
It's right under where the red lines intersect.
How long does it take to actually reach the expansion?
>>344433094
X 28
Y 20
are you for fucking real, upper noscea is like the smallest area
>>344433094
It's literally obvious where it is since it's the only place where there's two paths crossing it, dumbass.
>>344433330
around 50 hours played. thats presuming you don't have long queues
>>344433214
FATEs scale badly if you do the wrong ones. The best ones are so much better EXP per hour than dungeons. You can just go out and join FATE groups while with dungeons you have to sit and wait for a hour long queue unless you're a tank/healer.
>>344433094
That's easy. Try Coerthas.
>landmarks on map are two small circles
>entire map consists of circles
>>344433094
I didn't even need to look at the ingame map because that area is so incredibly obvious to remember.
>>344433214
>1.23 PLD is just like 3.0 PLD right now
Exactly that's why paladin is the most hated tank and I hope they bring it back in 4.0
>>344433415
>>344433352
>>344433327
>>344433452
>>344433459
that one was supposed to be easy, now solve this one.
>>344433452
>Try Coerthas.
Try fucking Sea of Clouds, spent literally 30 mins finding a map
>>344433545
10;20
>>344433417
That is a long fucking time to reach current content
>>344433330
Took me just under a week.
2.1 - 3.0 is what people say is the worst, but other than it being boring it's not too bad. Just skip cutscenes and put on Netflix or something. Took me a day of mindless quest-doing.
>>344433545
Here you go friend :)
http://14eorzea.seesaa.net/article/438008632.html
>>344433545
X 10
Y 20
Get shit on
>>344433626
thats to reach the expansion. you have another 30 to get to 60. then a gear grind to get to the current step
its an MMO. if you're put off by those numbers its not the right genre for you
>>344433490
I hope they don't. It's the tank role for people who don't want to learn how to tank. It's easy and needs only a few skills to tank well. It should never perform at the same level as the other tanks which are much more complex to handle.
>>344433626
>Fucking Japanese developers, why should they expect us to beat the base game first before we can even touch the expansion?
>>344433662
mass wiki/datamine websites ruin MMOs
>>344433794
Then why not add the same complexity to paladin?
I'm hoping for spells, both DPS and self healing spells for 4.0, make it happen SE
>>344433446
My party tried to do as many different ones as possible, but they still scaled awfully that we had to change location at some point.
I don't really know what FATEs are best and what aren't, but I'll assume you mean the boss FATEs because those are faster. Gonna do some FATE grinding again for another Anima weapon though so ugh.
>>344433642
>Just skip cutscenes
I hate people like you, you're the ones always asking why they have to keep traveling to vesper bay to talk to minfillia when they could just take the boat that was told in a cutscene.
>>344433626
not really. If you don't care about this game's shit story then it would take a lot shorter.
>tricked into doing anon's work
>>344433934
After a while, you just learn the locations by heart anyway. It doesn't take long to realize the maps have set locations.
>>344433850
But isn't that the thing that made WoW great? You had to actually spend hours and effort into going forward, which is also the reason why WoW is dying, the best gear is way too easy to obtain
>>344433850
I'm fine with an expansion being gated
What I am not fine with is having to play an entire jrpg before getting to it
>>344432126
>it's barebones
Meaning it's still lacking content?
>>344434147
Forgot to add that you can literally skip most of the game by paying and get a lvl 60 character
>>344434164
It's one of the problems this game is facing because of stupid developers. Now Yoshi's considering band aid fixes like cash shop shit that lets you skip the story or skip to max level.
It would be fine if the story wasn't garbage.
>that 2.55 ending
>>344434310
It is, but a big patch is coming out soon I heard
>>344434381
If you buy Legion, you can skip straight to level 100 and they drop your character off right at the end of WoD.
>>344434147
WoW is a facebook game now
FFXIV isn't quite there yet and hopefully never will beI can barely justify playing it as it is, but I can't let go out of nostalgia for FFXI.
>>344433850
I don't like how every single bit of the expansion was behind the base game content. Not even a few extras here and there before it. Then again, I don't like how every bit of content is gated behind the main story quest anyway.
At the very least I'd like certain things unlocked account-wide when I clear them on one character, like dungeons.
>>344434064
The story is garbage all through ARR. HW got better story wise but only marginally. I still skip cutscenes either way.
Paying attention to a story I'm not interested in is a waste of time, and I've never had an issue with not knowing where to go because that's what the fucking journal is for.
