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>MM3Dfags will defend this
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>>344394962
>oh no, in the process of remaking something, they remade it!!1

Please leave.
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>>344395137
When you remake something, it has to be better than the original. Otherwise it has absolutely no value.
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>>344395226
Considering it's Majora's Mask that got remade, the bar was incredibly low anyway.
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There's no reason to play MM3D when you have Glide64.

Not only does it make MM look BEAUTIFUL in higher resolution, it emulates perfectly.
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>>344395359
(you)
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>>344394962
Fucking manlets ruin everything.

No seriously besides the fucked up lighting what's wrong?
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>>344395716
>Smaller resolution
>Fucked up lighting
>jaypeg tier textures
What isn't wrong?
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>>344395454
Majora's Mask is a Zelda for people who hate Zelda.
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>>344395226
that is better you fuckwit
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>>344396389
Majora's Mask is a Zelda for people who aren't children and also people who wasted their life studying art

>>344396431
How is a smaller resolution, shitty jpeg textures (while muddier fits the aesthetic) and fucked up lighting "better"?
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>>344395716
>>344395789
>Fucked up lighting
I don't know about you guys but right actually looks like the type of lighting that would be found in a typical living space.
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>>344396505
Wait, which one do you think is the MM3D one? Because you're description sounds much more accurate for the left one which is NOT the 3ds MM.

Please tell me that's what you meant.
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>>344396636
Kubric didnt do perfects shots because reality is perfect
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>>344396636
It feels better for them to be in the dark though. Besides this is fantasy world I can't even remember if there IS a light source in there at night.
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>>344396636
It's also about consistency, there's no fucking light source in there.
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>>344395789
>Smaller resolution
What the fuck were you expecting from a 3ds game?
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>>344397374
I wasn't expecting anything but something superior to the original, because it's a remake.

Ports have the excuse of not being superior because they aren't going to make it emulate 100% like the original

but remakes HAVE to be better than the original, no exception.
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Timeskipping to exact hours with the Double SoT ruins the organic nature of the NPCs.
They ruined the Temple masters by taking away player options in battle- turning them all into formulaic "Zelda bosses" where you do X then hit the gigantic glowing weakpoint (precisely) three times; ruining the boss aesthetics in the process.
They assfucked the tone and mood of the entire game by changing the lighting, as seen in the OP.
They spoiled the narrative flow by omitting the second hide and seek game with the bombers- giving the player the notebook off the bat, which undermines exploration/immersion by giving you updates on quests every 10 seconds

The remake is an abomination.
Every single change they added was detrimental to the game's quality, aside from the analogue camera which is N3DS exclusive.
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>>344397374
I feel like there has to be a compromise where you can touch up the game and not make it look like everything is radioactive.

I though backlights would stop this stupid shit.
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>>344397480
I thought the 3D remake was tolerable at best because atleast the writing keeps the message in tact but ultimately I agree with you, it is a terrible remake and the original should definitely be played over it.
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>>344396505
>Majora's Mask is a Zelda for people who aren't children
(Not true, by the way.)

I have no desire to waste my time being Termina's errand boy, playing an Ocarina song every now and then to reset the cycle so I can continue being Termina's errand boy.

The Zeldas for adults are The Legend of Zelda and Zelda II.
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>>344397809
>Challenging games with no narrative depth, complexity, value, or meaning.
It's for adults sure but it's not for people who are mature.

Just kidding even kids could beat those games
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>>344397948
>It's for adults sure but it's not for people who are mature.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.
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>kafei
>café
i can't believe it............
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>>344395789

The 3DS version has higher resolution than the N64 version.

Not significantly. It's 400x240 / 800x240 compared to 320x240.

It's still higher res
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Can we agree?

>>344399557
>Native Resolution = Actual Resolution
wew

I bet you're gonna argue that the far left is lower res than the far right.
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>>344399889
>60fps
what
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>>344399889

Of course I'm not.

But what, you were expecting the 3DS to compete with the resolution a PC can emulate at? You could render a N64 game at 4K without breaking a sweat. It's a completely unfair comparison.
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>>344399889
People actually prefer how it looks on a regular 64? The only thing is that Project 64 still can't render holes properly.
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>>344399889
>>344400005
The main thing imo is that OOT looks better emulated than OOT3D looks emulated.
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>>344400074

You can't emulate OoT3D properly, can you?
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3DS emu when? I have the cartridge but the console is so fucking small...
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>>344399889

>project64
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>>344399889
>>344399994
Oh shit I thought MM3D was 60fps

That's was MM3Dfags constantly hyped up was "WHY WOULD I PLAY THE N64 VERSION AT 24FPS WHEN I COULD JUST PLAY THE 60FPS 3DS VERSION??"

So there's literally no reason to play the 3D version then?
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>>344400074
Because of the lighting in the bridge cutscene and final ganon fight?
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>>344400152
i dont get this bitching you people constantly do about p64
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>>344400163
The textures are a bit nicer and the 3D effects are kind of cool, but yeah either emulated or played on an N64 (RGB-modded, with HRCRT) is the definitive experience.
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I liked the remake
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>>344400173
Because OoT3D in general was designed with a backlight in mind, retard. In addition to that, the 3DS version doesn't use the same texture muddying effect the N64 does, making the textures look like JPG's resized in mspaint.
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>>344400093
I don't know but the graphics are emulated properly. It looks awful at 1080p. Well it looks awful on the 3DS too so I guess that was expected.

>>344400173
The graphics are inconsistent everywhere.
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>>344399889
looks fine to me
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>>344400163
MM 3D's main draw is stable 30 fps.

Like the Wart Fight doesn't go to 5fps when you throw a bomb. Ocarina is even worse in parts.
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>>344394962
Fug, the atmosphere is totally ruined in the remake. That N64 lighting makes it seem so much more somber
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>>344396505
Fuck off you blind cunt. MM3D Is better than the original in literally every way.
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You bitches are whining about this remake like MM was something perfect visually. It looked ugly as hell just like majority of n64 games.
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>>344400421
It's like they literally only put effort into the area before the town, which is the only part you'll never see twice on a save file.

also

>Let's add unnecessary light sources because our hardware is garbage
cool
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>>344400421
putting aside the graphics, it's LITERALLY worse in every single way.
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>>344400421
All those areas are too bright.
And now show the moon, the astral observatory, the Great Bay temple, and all the other areas they ruined.
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>>344400074
A couple of effects are ruined but Ocarina as an ugly game in spots. It's noticeable in the Ice Cavern which is just a bunch of white colored rooms in the original.

The thing is Majora's Mask is a much better looking game (Besides Ikana but that's literally fucking rocks the area) so the new "style" doesn't really improve anything besides a bit of window dressing in indoor areas.
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>>344400531
MM looks gorgeous for the tone it was trying to set, faggot. There's so much detail and nuance in the animation and models that you'd have to be retarded to think it's ugly.

N64 games looked ugly because they look like horror games, MM tries to be terrifying and manages to look good.
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>>344400421
lol wtf why did they make it so colorful and shit? fucking neo-nintendo doesnt know a good atmosphere from its ass
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>>344400531
The fuck? MM is the best looking N64 game, and has far superior graphics, models, animations and textures than OoT. Probably because they got to reuse assets and spruced them up heavily, pushing the N64 to the limit.
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>>344394962
>90's babies will find a problem with this
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>>344400592
https://youtu.be/tmI1Bh4HP8E?t=168

looks fine to me
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>>344400531
MM was fucking amazing for its time. You would know this if you were born before 2000.
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>>344400740
>2000's babies think this looks good.
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>>344400819
>nintendochildren call others underage
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>>344400819
I was born in 89.
It looked like shit you delusional fuck. It's literally a carbon copy of OoT except with an uglier world.

It's also one of the worst Zelda games in the series.
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>>344402719
>I am 27 years old and I use absolutes like "worst, literally, carbon copy" etc and expect to be treated as anything but someone in desperate need of (you)'s
(you)
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>>344402829
>"Every day normal words trigger the fuck out of me, please stop otherwise I'm going to have to retreat to my safe space"

Nice, epic, I like it.
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>>344400819
I was born in 1986 and was pretty disappointed by it because it was like a stand alone expansion pack more than a game. Felt like Nintendo had all these assets and they just remixed them for a budget baby Zelda rather than a proper main entry.
I will tell you right now there is no fucking way a 90's kid was satisfied by Majora's Mask. You come right out of OoT and you get just a bit more of the same but now it's only 3 dungeons? No fucking way any kid was ok with that. MM only got popular in retrospective once people got older and they started spreading this meme of it being dark and deep.
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>>344402719
I'm too lazy to find it but there's a comparison picture that shows it's not even the same young link model in both games. Same with the Dinofols, the legless shopkeepers and some other shit besides stuff you'd never actually pay attention to like guays.
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>>344403204
I was born in 98 and loved MM more than OoT when I was 5, playing MM for hours on end.
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>>344403373
I was born in a small board. I was still a child when we were raided by normies. Foreign normies. Torn from my elders, I was made to post their memes. With each new website, my masters changed along with the memes they made me post. With each change, I changed, too. My thoughts, personality, how I saw right and wrong. Memes can kill.
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Did 3D fuck up Stone Tower?
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>>344395137

>mm3d is a remake meme

love it
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>>344397809
>narrative depth, complexity, value, or meaning.
Not a single Zelda game fits that description.
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>>344404595
No, Stone Tower wasn't changed, but Twinmold was and for the better in my opinion
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>>344404856
sorry I didn't finish my post, it was supposed to end with "except majora's mask" sorry captcha/reply cooldown/etc
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Meat eaters WILL defend this.
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>finally 100% Majora's Mask on the 3d version
>feel really empty after I barely ever made progress on the N64 version

I feel empty for getting shit done. As obnoxious as it was, every Song of Time after you succeeded at something felt super satisfying. When you finally beat a dungeon or did that one sidequest and you play > A V > A V and you can rest easy knowing you've got all that progress saved is great.
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>>344395374

I thought you were memeing but it looks gorgeous
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>>344405397
>Get essentially the equivalent of your best friend telling you what the game is like 100%
>Get surprised when the real experience isn't half as gratifying
wew
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>>344405706
I know, right?
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>>344405706
>>344405780
I can't tell if you guys are joking or serious anymore. And why cherrypick the empty tutorial area?
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>>344405918
Ever thought that maybe some people just like the art style, art direction, and aesthetic?
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>>344405918

why would I be joking, I just downloaded project64 and the rom to try out that plugin that's why I'm in the intro

god damn it I haven't played majora in years and I'm feeling like finishing it again now
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>>344403204
>it was like a stand alone expansion pack more than a game

oh fuck off nobody ever thought of the game as an expansion pack, even in 1999
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>>344406013
>>344406173
Some random boring cave just seems like falseflagging is all. MM can do much better.
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>>344400217
idk it seems to be same with zsnes. It's the most popular but some autist can point out something wrong if you go frame by frame or some shit and therefore it's shit
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Post more comparison images
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>>344406568
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>>344406971

Dude, even the most popular games have glaring emulation glitches in zsnes. There's no reason to use it when snes9x works so much better and still works on toasters.
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>>344407075

>left, clear morning sunlight, moody atmosphere as the day is starting
>right, ayllmao just fullbright my shit up senpai
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Left: No Filtering
Right: Sharp Filtering
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>>344408381
whoops
that's sharp filtering, this is no filtering.
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>>344408210
>N64
>no life
>looks like Ganondorf has already taken over
>3DS
>vibrant
>clearly lived in
>happy as fuck, makes Ganondorfs take over far more impactful

Both versions have good things and bad things, why is it always extremes with you inbred fuckers?
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>>344408654
t. MM3D developer
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>>344408827
Drop the devastation. For example the N64 does this scene better. Blindly shitting on one version or another completley is pure fanboy wank plain and simple.
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>>344408654
>N64
>Peasant town looks like a peasant town
>3DS
>Peasant town looks like a carnival
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>>344408654

>medieval village up
>moe shit down

top kek you expect people to take you seriously
aslo pre-rendered background > real time any fucking day, even resident evil fags know this
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>>344409027

>Blindly shitting

It's JUSTIFIED shitting you cum guzzler, the only thing the 3DS version has over the original is the framerate and gameplay tweaks, otherwise it's a shitty downgrade just like wind waker HD compared to the original


Nintendo should not be EVER allowed to try and commission remakes, they are fucking stupid and idiotic about them, just look at majora's mask bosses all having le ebin eye to shoot at to kill them, fucking cancer, kill aonuma, kill myamoto, scrap Breath of the Meme and make a fucking good zelda with Koizumi and shut the fuck up.
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>>344408654
>Everything has to be saturated to be "alive"

But I still like bottom better because it's actually 3D
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>>344409060
>>344409153
>>344409287
Wow. So this is nostalgia goggles cranked to extreme.
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>>344409351
>First reply is arguing that the thing you like is inconsistent.
>Second reply is stating an opinion shared by credibly people while giving an example of the thing you don't like's tone.
>Third reply is just some guy spouting a mad yet ultimately justified opinion, even if it's annoying as fuck
wew you sure showed us
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>>344409351
Yes, if you ignore all arguments and opinions the new thing is always better than the old thing.
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>>344409476
>calling it a peasent town
>when it's directly connected to the castle
>and no where stated that it's a pauper town

Dismissed.

>Pre rendered is better than everything fuck you

Dismissed

>3rd reply is an angry nostalgia ridden blog

Dismissed

Thanks for highlighting just how fucking pathetic these complaints are.

>>344409553
Except I didn't. I stated that the N64 did things better than the 3DS, but the 3DS also has many improvements. Sorry you can't read anon but you'll pick it up.
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>>344409684
>It's 99% shit but 1% of it is good so it's preference based
fuck off
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>>344409741
Again, nostaliga ridden shitposting. Go play some vidya kid it'll calm you down.
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>>344409920
tfw people like you will ruin people's first playthroughs of MM
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MM3D is the only thing that made me bother playing that game
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>>344410074
>The game is the only thing that made me bother playing that game

Thanks anon
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>>344410074
>Man this food sure does look unappetizing..
>Oh, what's that? The Chef just sprinkled shit on it and added a flavor nullifier?
>Fuck yeah! I can't wait to eat this shit!
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>>344410436
>Food analogies

Well this argument sure is going places. Are we going to mention Hitler next?
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>>344399889
>emulator fags
STOP, upscaling looks really fucking awful
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>>344400723
>best looking N64 game
>not Conker's
It is a great looking game though.
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>>344411527

you're right, upscaling does look bad.

Rendering at higher resolution is objectively superior though.
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>>344412343
It's not a higher resolution, it's the same resolution with AA. Bloating up the image size negates that and makes it look awful again.
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>>344412430

Anon, if you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, why are you even doing it?
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>>344412667
but I do. It's just AA, not a higher resolution. Learn the difference.
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>>344413158

If anything it looks like there's no AA.
Look at the sharp line on the top of the table in the background. Any sort of AA would smooth that out. However, there's too much detail present for it to have been rendered at 320x240
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>>344409920

epic argument breh sure you won have a pineapple pizza
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>>344394962
why isn't anju naked?
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>>344414236
Censorship. Fucking SJWs, I'm telling ya.
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>>344409060
>Peasant town

It's got a goddamn fountain for crying out loud.
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>>344414481
I don't reall care about the ess jay dubyas, don't get me wrong, but if Anju were naked and letting Kafei motorboat her titties, damn that'd make MM a truly mature game for mature gamers. Like me! :^)

But for real, 3D and OG have their own benefits. 3D has better shitty models IMO, but the graphics themselves are obviously better (they have to be). I DON'T like the aesthetic. 3D is happy go lucky, no real sense of danger at all IMO. OG is all about that impending doom. it's fucking dark (or muddy, whichever you like).
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>>344409060
>peasant town
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>>344414780
>Graphics themselves are obviously better.
What? The textures in the 3ds version are compressed as FUCK. N64 doesn't have compressed textures, they're just upscaled. In addition to that, it's got a higher internal resolution but a lower display resolution.

The graphics are inferior
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itt: nostalgiafags
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>>344415845
t. nintendo fanboy
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What did they do to the atmosphere? Most of the areas look totally different and way cheerier.
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>>344405918
>just started the game, here's a screenshot
>"why is it at the start of the game shill"
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>>344394962
OP are you literally retarded, of fucking course the 3DS version looks worse on that pic, it's resized, bigger than the actual 3DS screen what the fuck did you expect
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>>344398198
>anju
>an jew
fuck.....
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>>344416667
It's actually smaller than the internal resolution
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>>344416758

No it isn't.
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>>344409287

>justified shitting

This could be the new artificial fun
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>>344396761
there's the lamp in the room.
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>>344395374
>using a botnet
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>>344413478
you're stupid. If you bloat up an image ofc the jaggies return
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Yea, that's what happens when you get some other shitty no name company to remake your most popular games to a handheld.
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>>344397480
>where you do X then hit the gigantic glowing weakpoint (precisely) three times

So you admit you never touched or even watched MM3D. Bosses still take a lot of hits to kill. And only Twinmold requires something found in the dungeon itself to defeat, the other three can be fought however you want to but with more emphasis on the three transformation masks.
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> port something
> minor changes
> advertise it as a complete remake

It's a port.
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>>344417574

No, edges get smoothed over if you use anti aliasing. You don't see the kind of sheer lines between objects as you do in that picture when you use anti aliasing.
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>>344397461
remakes are never better than the original though
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>>344417739

Metroid Zero Mission.
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>>344417686
>Minor changes
>Completely changes the tone of the game
>Minor changes

>>344417739
REmake
Metroid Zero Mission
La-mulana Remake
etc
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>>344417739
Tell me about it. Things that were made when we were young are the best things ever, and anything that comes afterward is utter garbage filth for the spoiled shit-eating kids of today. Any kind of change is automatically bad, wouldn't it be wonderful if the entire universe could just freeze in stasis for all eternity so we never have to see what we love most become old and replaced with such insults to our existence, especially when the new things cause the old things to stop existing so we can't enjoy them anymore?
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Pros of the 3DS version:

- The soundtrack is arguably the best Nintendo has ever put out, right up there with OoT3D. It's like ear sex.
- The graphics are beautiful. The darker graphics actually suits the smaller screen very well. As smart anons have mentioned, the reason that OoT3D/MM3D are lighter is a necessity because handhelds being backlit isn't the same as a TV. They're made so that you can see them even in poor lighting.
- They made the right changes in all the places they should have; made the kid's tag game harder, Magic bean seller's exit now takes you to the plant outside the palace so you don't have to get caught, you meet the owl at the first statue in the swamp instead of the second, so you can use warp right away!
- No having to wait for the Gold Skulltula text bubble every time you catch one. You can keep playing while it disappears.
- Upped the ante on swimming controls. Zora Link has arguably the best swim controls of any game now.

Etc.
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>>344417691
>pic
See still jaggies in all pics. Now stop pretending you know what you're talking about
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>>344418195
I hope this is the only reply you get. You can get a (you) for trying but I'm sure someone out there actually believes this
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>>344395374
whats the best emu for n64?
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>>344418238

The nature of the jaggies is different in each case. With AA, the edges are smeared. Without AA, the edges are starkly defined.

Take a look at this section from the emulator's picture. There is no overlap between the top of the table and the backdrop. It is very clearly defined. There is no AA.
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>>344418578
see>>344414183
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>>344418510
Tell him, man! The entire world hates remakes, especially Jewish Nintendo remakes of the best games ever made that dare to change anything at all about our dearest childhood memories! You're our leader and spokesman echoing all of our thoughts and emotions, our hearts beat as one and our minds are synched!
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>Played Majora's mask on wiiVC
>only have LCD and it looks bad on VC
>thinking of getting it on 3DS
>see this thread

Now I'm conflicted. I worried about the gameplay differences as well. I'm on my way to the great bay temple and I skipped the sidequests since I don't really like them so I don't mind starting over.
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>>344419279
The only major differences are Zora swimming and the second half of the Twinmold fight. All the controls and stuff are the same as in OoT3D which were great.
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>>344419279

Everything they changed in MM3D was a change for the worse.
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>>344416667
The 3DS screenshot is 400x240, the same as the 3DS's screen resolution.
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>>344419630
>>344419710
You guys seem conflicted too
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>>344419279
You should know better by now not to listen to blatant shitposters, it's a perfectly fine remake.
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>>344418759
tnx
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>>344414183
>removing 60FPS from MM3D's pros

Sorry man that shit alone makes it well worth it

Emulator overclocking when?
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>>344420672
MM3D isn't actually 60FPS, it was a misconception. It's 30.
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>>344420798
Still runs better than either the N64 or PJ64 version
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>>344420839
By literally a 6 frames difference, you can't even notice it.
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>>344419858
The swimming controls are better in MM3D in every way conceivable. The only way anyone could say otherwise is because they're an asshole trying to create trolls.

They added rising, sinking (quick), floating-in-place, and natural movement (not boosting through the water).

The only thing they did was compromise the shield button and boosting, so that you use magic now, but you can keep boosting even with no magic.
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>>344420907
>20% difference
>can't even notice it
lels

There's also shitloads of spots where framerate dips in the N64 version, that just doesn't happen on the 3DS version
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>>344421157
And the framerate won't dip in the PC version.

Also, every place where framerate remotely dips is covered by motion blur
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>>344421598
>And the framerate won't dip in the PC version.
But that's wrong
Emulators emulate framerate dips too
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>>344421598
>Also, every place where framerate remotely dips is covered by motion blur
Not even that anon but you know damn well that's no solution
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>>344421598
>Also, every place where framerate remotely dips is covered by motion blur
Isn't that shit only cutscenes? He means in the actual game
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>>344422036
>Implying all the places in MM with motion blur weren't the dopest shit in the entire game.
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>>344418585
read >>>344418238
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>MUH ATMOSPHERE
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>>344422524

sorry you're blind, faggot
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>>344419279
>I skipped the sidequests since I don't really like them

why the fuck are you even playing majora then
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>>344421923
>Emulators emulate framerate dips too

this is the most stupid thing I have ever seen on this site
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>>344423109
I wanted to play all of the zelda games.

Alttp was fucking godlike and I played OoT long ago but I never got around to the rest after majora. Should I skip MM if I don't like it? Some of these sidequests are nes secrets tier and I don't want to use a guide.
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>>344394962
I don't get it, what's the problem. Am I just not autistic enough to notice it?
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/v/ will find a way to bitch about every remake/remaster even if it's objectively better in every way.

I've actually seen people on this board argue that the lower texture resolution and poly count has more "soul".
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>>344422725
>>344423872
And those people are retarded.

Which is irrelevant to this discussion since MM3D has the same polycount and while texture resolution is higher, it's more compressed--aka something N64 MM could have done but opted not to because it'd look fucking awful
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>>344394962
Whats there to defend? The better textures? The better models? The better lighting?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>344424053
>The better lighting
there isn't even a fucking light source
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>>344423872
They think everything old is best and everything new is demonic monsters stealing their weenies. Look at GEEWUNers for another excellent example of this.
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>>344424048
>it's more compressed

What the fuck does that even mean?
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>>344424158
and you think everything new has to be defended since it's part of your childhood. Or maybe you have some sick fetish for pointing out it's the current year.
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>>344424158
>>344423872
/v/ already accepts that newer pokemon is better than Gen 1, REmake is better than the original RE, La-mulana remake is better than the original La-mulana, etc etc.

You people are just grasping at straws, /v/ is selective about remakes and it's clear that there's good reason this remake is garbage.

>>344424201
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEzhxP-pdos
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>>344424313
There's not a single remake /v/ thinks is better than the original. Not a single one.
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>>344419279
The Twinmold fight was remade to be far better, Giant's Mask is an actual transformation that alters combat instead of just making you bigger and removing your ability to target.

Pretty much every boss fight except arguably Odolwa was remade to be better. And I only say Odolwa because they removed his moth summoning.
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>>344424391
All dragon quest remakes minus 8 and mobile ports.
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>>344424391
La-mulana.

Done, boom. Nobody can argue that the original La-mulana is even good.
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>>344424513
Those felt plastic as fuck. 3D took the magic out of DQ. Not to mention the atmosphere feels like a half-assed Toriyama anime now.
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>>344424487
>Resetting your IP to make it look like you have more people on your side
LOL
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>>344424654
The remake just casualized everything for the twitch generation.

/v/ probably does like it thought because you guys are casuals.
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>>344424762
MM3D fags are this fucking desperate

It's no wonder they like shit ports--they like objectively shit games too. Original LM is complete ass.
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>>344424689
Oh, being contrarian to be contrarian. You know 1+2 had a remake on the snes right?
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>>344424737
Are you actually a sperg who's checking everyone's IP to see who is and isn't samefagging?

Either you're baiting, or that's some high-quality sperging, because that was my first post in this thread.

>tfw let my friend borrow my MM3D and he's been stuck on the fourth temple for months now.

I wanna replay it now dammit.
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>>344424876
I'm just saying. How can praise truly terrible remakes like DQ but hate on remakes with minor flaws like MM3DS.
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>>344424391
Kirby Super Star Ultra.
Twilight Princess Wii U version.
Ace Attorney Trilogy.
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>>344424984
Here replay the superior version right now

mega:#!gYwwgLiY!8ZsDYUGW1SI_ES2JANBMw87mMzSXC9Ht3KRYChQGta4
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>>344425112
No one over 12 plays Kirby
The HD remake of TP has disgusting texture compression
Ace attorney trilogy is a port of the glossy, blown up iOS version
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Stop replying to the pro-MM3D poster. He's just fishing for (you)'s.
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>>344425230
>No one over 12 plays Kirby
Yeah, mature games for mature people such as ourselves, right?

Stopped reading right there. Here's my reply.
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>>344425113
Don't get me wrong, I like the original and will probably get it on the WiiUVC if I don't get the remake back from my friend, but playing both the remake is way better.
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>>344425571
kys cuckby fag
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I can't tell which side is shitposting.
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>>344425717
Anyone who thinks mm3d wasn't a cash grab.

They put way more effort into the OOT remake.
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>>344425717
MM3Dfags are obviously the ones shitposting. They haven't posted a single good reason the remake is superior that isn't a straight up lie (which you can easily discern by considering it's on a fucking handheld)

MM64/PC fags are just circlejerking their superiority
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>>344425717
MM3DS haters are just baiting and being autistic in general.

They're just mad that their mommy didn't buy them a 3DS
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>>344425772
All remakes are cash grabs, duh.

Both versions of Majora's Mask look fine.
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>>344423201
Do you even know how emulators work?

It emulates the actual hardware of the console, not just the game code, meaning the performance ideally ends up being the same as the real hardware, unless you implement CPU overclocking (for the emulated hardware) into the emulator
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>>344425772
Personally I like MM3D more than the original, but I do hate that there's no boss rush or Master Quest when OoT3D got both. The fact every boss fight got revamped makes up for the boss rush mode not being there though IMO.
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>>344423201
But he's right anon

Fire up a SNES emulator and play Mega Man X and go to the water level and tell me if the game doesn't slow down when you blow up the big serpent miniboss
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>>344425717
see
>>344414183

It's easily the most accurate post in the thread, it even offers a download link to the emulated Majora's Mask N64 to show how it's easily superior while posting actual true reasons why the 3DS version is inferior.

Everyone posting pro3ds is either
1) A really autistic nintenyearold (Cody, anyone?)
2) Someone fishing for (you)'s
3) Someone who wants to make peoples lifes a little bit worse by getting them to play inferior versions of games on their first playthrough
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>>344423657
>Some of these sidequests are nes secrets tier
Like?
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>>344403373
Kill yourself.
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>>344424302
>everything new is part of my childhood

I'm older than most of you people and I enjoy remakes and new things as much as what I did grow up with, so shove it up your ass.
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>>344426235
none if you pay attention to the bombers notebook.

The only one that may escape you if you never explored was the miniboss cave.
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>>344426374
post that drivers license then.
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>>344425717
I'm lost. I don't even like MM much so I may just skip it but the artstyle,atmosphere and music is 10/10
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>>344394962
Kafei looks fine, but for some reason the new face of Anju is bothering me.
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They should have added more side quests to the remake, would have given a reason for people who played the original to buy the game.

>We'll never get a remake like Mario 64 DS
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>>344409060

It's got a store that sells colourful Happy Happy Masks.

So yeah, I'd say it's a bit of a carnival
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>>344400421
No but seriously, why did they change the swirl effect? It's so utterly random, the original even looked good to begin with.
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>>344400421
>Adding ceiling lamps in a world without electricity.
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>>344418238
Do you not understand how video game rendering works?

If pixels exist there will be aliasing.
You can mitigate it somewhat with downsampling and AA but there's no way to remove them.
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>>344428365
Im talking AA here
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>>344428245
A shame because the room actually looks prettier and has nice details like the shovels.
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>>344428245
>Candles or gas lanterns stop working if you hang them from the ceiling
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>>344428464
There's no AA in that original image, it's just rendered at a higher resolution.
Note I didn't say upscaled because upscaling is just stretching an image from a small resolution to a higher one, rather than outputting the image at a higher resolution.
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>>344429121
>An old farm house puts up four ceiling lanterns/candles, being completely wasteful
cool excuse bro
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>>344406971
ZSNES legitimately is garbage though. It's not even just obscure shit that has problems. Try playing Megaman X or SMRPG on it.
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>>344429260
They probably have a monopoly on all food products in Termina. For all you know, they could be rich.
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>>344429260
>complaining about the economic viability of candles in a fucking zelda game
have we lost our way?
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>>344429753
>Complaining about inconsistency in fiction
>A bad thing
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>>344424391
Heart gold Soul silver
Thats all I can think of
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>>344396636
yeah nevermind the moon outside about to smash both their crotches, lets have a nice well lit room
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>>344429753
Well it would draw you out of the game if what's presumably meant to be a small, humble farmer's cabin is stocked with an inordinate number of luxuries.
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>>344409060
Nigga do you hear the music of Castle Town?
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>>344429225
>original image
no shit, keep up
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>>344397461
You were expecting a superior resolution on the 3ds? Are you brain dead?
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>>344430467
I was hoping the remake would never be made, and if it did, it'd happen on the Wii U/NX.

I knew the remake would be shit the moment it was announced.
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>>344430162
That's the project 64 image
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>>344430585
keep up
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>>344430576
First you say you had expectations for a 3ds remake and now you're backtracking saying you knew it'd be shit. You're just arguing for the sake of it now. You were stupid. Move on.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jUrHxkM2TU
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>>344430643
You clearly have no idea how AA works.
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>>344426180
Sounds like you're the autistic one, worrying about "MUH PROPER INTRODUCTION." Although your level of obsession borders on sociopathy, and is an insult to the autistic people.

Autists have trouble understanding the perspective of other people, and so compensate by holding unto "rules," to get by in life. Sociopaths like you, have no right to look down on them, because you're the same, only instead of rules, you get by by trying to control other people. You think what you feel is "empathy," by crusading your stupid agenda, but in actuality what you are is a tyrant. A psychopath. Maybe you're not Caligula yet, but that might only be because you aren't in a position to be.

Or maybe you're just a edgy teen with a god complex, trying to take out his anger on a board filled with other teenagers. I don't care. You're not even worth psychoanalyzing any further.
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>>344431794
You deserve a billion (you)'s, you put so much effort into this post. It's so fucking angsty, ignorant, and childish it's crazy.
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>>344431915
Looks like I pegged you. Thanks for confirming, dipshit.
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The really interesting thing is that the N64 had edge anti-aliasing just like the 3dfx Voodoo series of cards, and it actually fucking worked.

Here's a vase from the demo mode intro with edge-AA on vs off from real hardware.
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>>344423201
>stupidity: The post
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>>344431794
It seems like you're projecting a little, poor psycho anon. You will never feel emotions.
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OoT looks pretty nice on real hardware.

Emulation is literally cancerous where half the special effects are missing and texture UV mappings are fucked introducing seams everywhere (also the texture filtering is fucked making it look blurrier than real hardware).
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Are Majora's Mask fags the most autistic vidya fanbase to ever exist?
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>>344433161
Absolutely not, there are far more autistic fanbases.

Analyzing vidya as a serious artistic medium is incredibly utilitarian, so it's arguable that it's the least autistic fanbase.
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>>344400827
>Implying that 2000's babies haven't been so cucked out of their own generational identity that they'll agree with anything '90's'
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>>344433243
>Analyzing vidya as a serious artistic medium is incredibly utilitarian
Thanks for confirming my speculation.
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>>344433451
>Being a degenerate.
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>>344418195
>No having to wait for the Gold Skulltula text bubble every time you catch one. You can keep playing while it disappears.

This was in the original MM too, this isn't a new feature.
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>>344433715
Anon the rest of his post is a big fat lie, why would you pinpoint yet another lie?
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>>344406262
Maybe he's remembering that you actually had to get an expansion pack to play the game.

>>344409287
Someone's trying real hard today. Here's your big boy (you). That picture isn't even Majora's mask.

>>344418195
Some of the changes they made were for the better, but a lot of them were just bad.

>>344419279
MM3D:
>Boss fights are different,
>They added two fishing holes
>pressure of the time mechanic is made pointless by new saving system
>Song of inverted time doesn't slow down as much, so you can't do a glitchless 6 day challenge anymore.
>graphics are improved overall but lose a lot of the original atmosphere/color
>Messed up controls in some way for all the race transformations
>They made quests easier to keep track of, some puzzle solutions were made more blatant
>removed some textures that potentially showed story implications (retconned?)

You might like the remake since it makes things easier to keep track of/easier in general. The remake was really made more for people that couldn't get into it the first time around.
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