It never happened. It's a lie created by oldfags.
>>344378987
don't you think this great amount of indies, vr gimmick and 2 hour long AAA games won't lead to a decadence ?
>>344379115
No.
They're profitable and people like them.
Clearly you don't understand why the video game crash happened in the first place.
>>344379909
>game crash happened in the first place.
Too many bad games (i.e 95% of steam library today is mediocre/awful games).
Also, today we have people losing money on mobas and CS:GO gambling plus people spending hundreds of dollars in exp in LoL
Some day the cash will dry you know that don't you.
>>344379115
Indie's are actually the future of video games. Of course, Indie platformers will become unfashionable at one point but that's a good thing.
>>344380151
I don't want to live in that future
>>344380110
But the remaining 5% is good enough to keep people interested on videogames.
Way back there was no 5% to fall back. And videogames will never stop being profi-
>>344380249
Ah, you're just a shitposter.
Move along, people. Nothing to see here.
>>344379115
The original videogame crash happened because the market was completely FLOODED by absolute shit. I'm talking about games that literally didn't function properly. Even companies like Mars had a gaming division because "why not"?
On top of that we had absolutely no curation. There was no Internet, no app store ratings. Beyond a couple of gaming mags, the only way to find out if the games you were buying were complete shit was to pay for them.
>>344378837
It wont happen. The standards of the general public in this day and age are too easy to satisfy
>>344380350
>Ah, you're just a shitposter.
>Ah, you just showed people the amazing library on steam
>Ah, you can't do that
Yes I can
>>344380110
It wasn't only about games, it was the amount of consoles that were being released at the same time for those games as well
>>344380482
>was completely FLOODED by absolute shit.
Welcome to 2016 my friend
>>344378837
You ignore /v/
>>344380798
Do you have another community/forum to recommend? I'm sick and tired of this hipsters retards here
Video Games are hip now, everyone and their mother wants to be a nerd gamer.
>>344380971
Facebook/twitter and smartphones destroyed our lives
>>344380929
sorry i'm in the same boat or i'd leave this place and never look back.
there wont be a crash. indie devs can make any type of game that has high demand, and the industry is healthy growing. only a AAA crash is plausible, and i wouldn't care
>>344380638
Did you even read the rest of his post
>>344378837
We don't need to. Indie devs don't need to put their games on consoles anymore, they can just release on steam for free or if they pander correctly make pure profit with patreaon.
Imagine if they needed to pay the fees for having a game on a console costing them 10k+
>>344380638
>Samurai Warriors 4 Empires
>Street Fighter V
>GG Revelator
>Darkest Dungeon
>Dark Souls III
>Romance of the Three Kingdoms 13
>Doom
>Salt & Sanctuary
>Overwatch
Eh, it's been a pretty decent year so far.
>>344380638
He means as in every game was E.T. and Superman 64. There are no modern equivalents to it that people pay attention to.
>>344378837
You can't. It will happen. Its just nature.
>>344379909
People are already losing confidence in these triple A games. Just look at the new cod
>>344378837
Vidya has grown to big for it to crash. We'll see if this is for better or worse.
>>344380249
>nothing but souless mindless shit
this is truly the most awful image ever.
>>344384025
It won't, the market is too diversified. At the time of the crash the only platform worth a damn was the Atari so people just stopped buying. Good luck replicating that with online distribution and big games like Minecrap that people love.
>>344384306
everyone already owns minecraft and cod and all those games. people are getting sick of it. its going to crash soon.
>>344378837
Make good gameswhich won't happen
let this industry die
The most you'll ever actually see is the Steam Marketplace becoming extremely unpopular due to them green lighting everything and FPS's suddenly no longer keeping everyone's interests, as the market would likely shift to another genre.
A total crash is super unlikely any time soon, because despite what people on /v/ may hyperbole up, the home-console scene before the NES was really really REALLY bad. You can't even sarcastically say it's similar because of the sheer difference going on.
>>344384409
...and people are still playing it and buying new shit. Look at Battlefront. We realize they're garbage, but the average pleb doesn't. That's the difference.
>>344384409
It doesn't work like that, you retard. Read his post again.
There are infinite platforms to put, even if they stopped buying consoles, there are PCs, there are phones, there are TVs, etc.
>>344380249
Yeah, the fucking Ultimate Chiken Horse OST is ruining video games!
You can't even cherry pick properly desu
>>344384541
we aren't the average people. we know when something is going to be shit before it happens. for a lot of these people this is the first time they're even playing any video game and they will soon realize its not a good investment to buy 60 dollar games.
>>344384542
it will be a domino effect. trust me.
the only people who won't be affected will be mobile games which are glorified flash games.
>>344378837
It won't crash. It'll just become for normies only and not you. Besides a few instances it already is.
>>344384896
>for a lot of these people this is the first time
Every generation there's a new batch of suckers. If what you were saying was accurate Battlefront would've bombed, but it didn't because all the Star Wars faggots opened their wallets like evangelicals at a rally. People actually bought PS4s and Xbones knowing full well the only shit they'd be playing on them would be FPS and sports, as always. And they'll buy the next gen and the next, even as sales continue to decline overall. Japan has retreated to handhelds (and is going bankrupt) so don't expect much from them. Meanwhile on the PC front people buy the latest greatest indieshit and defend it to the death because they contributed to the kickstarter and have stockholm syndrome. So the market is dying, but not in an acute way. It's chronic, a slow slide into mediocrity and shit. Marketing is a big part of that.
>>344385419
Companies are going to run out of people to trick into buying this shit.
will there ever be a book crash? there's so many being written!
>>344386141
They won't because there are constantly new people being born and not enough oldfags to warn/teach them.
>>344382647
What's Early Access Fighter V doing on that list, friend?
>>344386293
When you think about it, who buys all these shit mystery and romance and the like novels anyway? There's such a constant torrent of new trash but are there really enough people who buy and read these things? I guess so, which is frightening.
Why would you want to prevent it? So the industry can continue being a reanimated corpse shitting out bad games left and right?
>>344378837
Stable patches
>>344380110
The cause of the crash wasn't just the amount of bad games, it was the level of information over which games were bad and which were actually worth your money.
These days it's easy and simple to get a relatively reliable review for a game, the conditions that caused complete public mistrust of the entire gaming industry cannot occur in a modern era where buying a game isn't a real gamble unless you're an idiot who preorders.
>>344386761
>unless you're an idiot who preorders.
So basically everyone who buys games?
>Implying another crash is going to happen
The market isn't oversaturated enough.
>it's "I am a jaded fuck who hates video games so it means the world in falling apart" episode
If you guys weren't so fucking pretentious I'd maybe feel pity for not enjoying today's video games like I do
Feel free to tell me why I shouldn't have fun, though.
>>344386925
Everyone does not pre order, especially nowadays since a majority of game shops carry more than enough copies of a game on launch.
>>344378837
Too late fucker. It's pretty much inevitable with the terrible, greedy and soulless condition the video game industry has been in as of late.
The big companies put the bare minimum of effort into their games, then slap in some "survival mechanics" and spend more money on advertising then they did the actual game.
Then they cut out content and repackage it as mediocre dlc.
Sometimes they don't even do that and just sell mods that are honestly worse than free mods (talking about Bethesda here in specific with Fallout 4).
Broken games with lackluster gameplay and mediocre longevity, all just meant to hold you over until the next big title releases. Rinse and repeat.
Indie devs on the other hand just release the same cookie cutter shit:
"retro" platformer with stupid chiptune soundtrack,
anime-esque rpg with generic story and characters,
stupid "simulation" game with terrible mechanics and visuals,
or shitty dungeon crawler that's extremely difficult and has "rouge like" randomly generated maps as a lazy excuse to maps with actual thought in them.
The video game industry needs to crash. We need all these people to go the fuck out of business so new people can take their places when the dust finally settles, just like Nintendo and Sega originally did in the 1980s.
Think of it like a reboot, really.
Don't
Let it all burn
>>344387037
This is the end-desharu.
>>344378837
>wanting to prevent it
>wanting to prevent the crash
Let it burn down. From the ashes a new industry with new developers will rise! THEY'LL MAKE VIDYA GREAT AGAIN!
>>344387134
See a doctor about your depression already.
And learn to stop relying on AAA developers to cater to you specifically.
>>344387703
>Never expected AAA to "cater to me". Just expected them to put out games that weren't fucking broken messes either.
I mean, if you wanna defend AAA developers shitting out generic, bug riddled garbage with dlc up the ass then by all means go ahead.
I'll be waiting for this shit to die. The video game industry can't keep going the way it is. History has shown us that it'll eventually fail.
>>344388203
History has shown us that it'll settle into a comfortable rut like TV and movies.
>>344388364
This
Good movies are still made, they are just 1/1000
Same goes for tv shows
>>344388364
The fact that you're actually right has only made me realize that I still had some hope that by dying the video game industry could be reborn.
I now realize that despite my initial cynicism I still had hope, and you helped me realize that it will never recover. There will be no crash. It'll continue on this same shitty path for decades to come.
You're right on the nose, and I hate you for it.
>>344384025
>>344384446
>>344386653
>>344387134
>>344387276
>>344387464
>>344387525
>>344387672
Most of you think there will be a new games industry, which may not happen, what if the games industry sinks, then stops completely, it ends all vydia,what is /v/ going to do then, this is why we need to keep it around.
>>344389412
And how exactly would the concept of "games" just drop off the Earth suddenly?
>>344389412
What they don't understand is that, even if a new industry rose, it would be inspired by our current one.
>>344389601
They see the industry crash again, They feel worried about losing money, and then no one wants to make games ever again
>>344389838
I don't know if you are one of those /v/ Anons that hate vydia, I hope you are not one.
>>344385040
Are you trying to say AAA games will die? Well, you'd need a good series of HIDEOUS over-marketed flops, which won't happen as long as the good outweigh the bad, by good, I mean 5/10 games
>>344385194
All this shit shows it that console games are dying in favor of mobile and it's mostly dying in Japan
>>344390076
I didn't say video games, I said games.
For video games to completely sink off and "stop completely", the very concept of games, digital or otherwise, would have to somehow be killed off.
As long as there is technology and a human need for entertainment, there will be games.
>>344390841
Deep
>>344390076
If the industry died it would only mean that all the suits and jews would let go of vidya, old and new devs will continue to make games for love of the medium and earn a living, the only ones left would be the enthusiasts.
>>344391512
Or the enthusiasts will be too worried to make games, no new devs will arrive as no one is buying, games are lost forever. That is a chance, not many are willing to take the risk, it's too big of a chance
>>344378837
Buy videogames. Don't pay for online.
>the industry is bigger than it has ever been
>The original crash was literally just the NA console market
It would be a huge plus if NAs console market had crashed. We'd be exploring mars right now.
Have casual mobile games crashed yet?
Part of the problem is PCucks. The other side is how a majority of games are developed now. I'll start with the latter first.
Game devs/publishers realized they can make an unfinished product sell it for full price and profit off it for tons of money. The big idea is removing things to make more money. Microdlcs, Season Passes, now the rise of the retarded GOLD/DELUXE/GOLD DELUXE editions, early access which is a PCuck only thing, etc. Nobody bothers to put in real effort anymore, the only real example I can think of is Bitcher 3, the DLC are what they should be, free and any paid ones are actual Expansion Packs chock full of already thousands of hours of content. In terms of polish very few devs go the extra mile anymore, for example Naughty Dog, the Killzone Dev, old Bungie, old Nintendo just to name a few made sure the games were as best they can be, but I guess since everyone realize that they can patch possible fixes later to just fuck it ship it out now we want our money ASAP.
>>344395797
have slot machines crashed yet?
>>344395797
>>344395887
Has slot machines with kawaii anime girls crashed yet?
Why do you want to stop it?
Let it burn to the ground along with every shitty VR, indie or money grabbing AAA title so at least we can get something new that may or may not be worthwhile
>>344378837
You don´t, you see if you can do something to hasten it and then lean back and enjoy.
>>344380151
>Indie's are actually the future of video games
Hopefully I've moved on from video games at that point.
I have yet to play an "indie" game that was worth the money.
>>344380638
There was another aspect to it. To make and publish games then you needed shitload of resources. Now even you can make a game and sell it. You'd need to kill the Internet first. Then we can start talking about another crash.
>>344396598
This. We need another crash to hit the reset button
>>344391994
You're forgeting about people who make games for fun and sell them as an afterthought. There's shitload of great, free games out there. If the industry collapses again, those people will have easier time being noticed, becuase all those AAA games won't be in the way.
Also, smaller studios will continue to make games. Risk would be minimal, because AAA companies are non existant, people are thirsty for entertainment. That sounds like a great opportunity to earn money.
>>344390663
>Console games are dying
>PS4 sold over 30 million
>Sony is trying to fund games to get back the japanese market and they aren't buying
>Results in more games for weebs and the like
>Shenmue 3 is a thing
>Xbone sold way too fucking much for what it is
Everyone wins unless you're living in Japan or interested in Nintendo
>>344389412
No, there will not be a new industry. Just mobile. Mobile is COMING. Death is coming.
>>344397770
Sounds like only PCucks who like grand strategy and nothing else win
Stop trying to predict a video game crash /v/, you've been saying it for years and its not going to happen.
>>344398675
Nomura just had to have a fucking trilogy in the end.
>>344396598
>>344396729
>>344397451
More people who still blelive that there is going to be a new industry
>>344397682
Everyone does this for money, because it is expensive to make a game
>>344398373
This without moblie
>>344398925
>because it is expensive to make a game
no, it's not
>>344380249
God damn it every time i look at the steam store i just wanna kill myself senpai.
I wish I could just be excited about video games again.
>>344401697
It is, Since most people who make games:
1) don't live in their parents basement, So they have to pay money for electricity,computers.etc
2)You have to buy software for some games
>>344378837
Sorry, the crash isn't happening anytime soon. I know how much some of you want to see the whole rotten thing die and be reborn but it's just not happening.
>>344378837
You can't. The entire population of /v/ couldn't even make an appreciable dent in any aaa developers income. That's why no one gives a shit what all the chimpanzees with typewriters are bitching about on this board.
>>344405478
It's just going to be reborn "worse" than what it is now. If video games somehow had a crash, the #1 priority for developers would to pander as hard as possible to fight for every dollar. And what's in right now? Social justice.
>>344405478
Pretty much the snowball effect. There is a lot of shit out there, but still just enough good stuff. Both parts are continually growing, however, if one point outgrows the other, which can happen sooner or later, the whole thing comes crashing down.
To make things worse, the longer it takes to reach the breaking point, the bigger the crash will be.
>>344390841
And they'll be better games when developers are desperate for success to even survive as companies and they have to focus on pleasing specific niche consumer groups again
Far better than the "spend half the budget on ads" model
>>344406371
Ask yourself this, how many big games with great metacrtic scores (85+) have been major commercial failures lately? You can probably name a few, problem not more than you have fingers, meanwhile count how many game with great metacrtic scores have been successful.
If expensive games are getting high scores and failing left and right the market is heading towards a crash. There is no indication that's currently happening. High scores correlate very highly with user satisfaction and sales meaning people are buying games they like and the people making them are making money selling these games to them so they're going to keep making them to get money.
The crash isn't happening.
Don't buy Xbox.
Don't buy PC.
Don't buy mobile.
Don't buy into the VR meme.
The crash will not affect Japan nearly as strongly. Buy or idort Sony/Nintendo (preferably Sony since Nintendo is likely to invest in baby games again).
>>344407307
Crash never affected PC.
>>344378837
First, it should be noted that the last video game crash wasn't some single event. It was a gradual decline over a number of years, in part due to bad planning by companies and customers just not having faith or leaving the market entirely. Activision and E.T. make for a nice story, but it was Activision's stupidity in a large number of fields which put them in the situation they were in. It wasn't just overproducing one game.
So what do we see now? Lots of stupid decisions from AAA publishers, that's for sure. Some are scrambling to diversify and insulate themselves from a downturn, while others are just spending money and buying up little developers as if this won't end. Right now they have customer support and faith, although I honestly don't know how much longer that will last. Consoles are disappointing, most Steam games are terrible, and there isn't much else to turn to.
>implying todays shitty games aren't the retro games of a post-crash scenario
>>344380482
And the orginal videogame crash happend mostly in the US. Because of the dominance of homecomputers in Europe and the enormus amount of pirating their there was no real crash afaik.
Quality wise, it's already happened.
The difference? People actually enjoy playing shitty games this time.
>>344407307
If anything Japan will be hit the worst since they're already starting to move more heavily to mobile and pachinko than the west.
>>344395859
The console industry (which is 90% of video games these days) is a million times more cancerous than indie devs on PC doing early access. And you're starting to see AAA devs latch onto early access on consoles too with games like Hitman. Or hell, just nearly all games coming out broken and devoid of content and having shit be patched in later.
And I think I get what you're saying with the Gold editions thing but it was stupid to use the term Gold because Gold versions of games have been around for over a decade and that was how improved versions of games were released before patching became as easy as it is today.
>>344407673
This. Quality went down with the same knock off copy paste mentality, only people are buying them and games are the most profitable piece of media ever.
It's much worse than people just refusing to buy shit product. Those oldfags are gone and/or irrelevant now.
>>344378837
How is a white man raising his white son to kill orcs gay and Jewish? Then you're 100% okay with massive girlyboy faggots and dickgirl anime whores in Japanese games that denounce everything masculine and conservative.
>>344395859
>Part of the problem is people playing on a platform completely isolated from shitty AAA focus
Good going you absolute fucking moron.
>>344407890It's not his son.
>>344407998
It is his son.
>>344396976
>factorio
>100% Oj
>Battleblock theater
>RISK OF RAIN
>xenonauts
>necrodancer
>evochron
>undertale
>ftl
>VVVVVV
>super meat boy
>dustforce
>BOI
>Creeper world
>spacechem
>not worth the money
as far as i'm concerned if AAA's die off I'll be in heaven. Cheap games with actual thought put into them is a lot better than expensive remakes that look pretty.
Oversaturation is a terrible problem on Steam right now. There is, with no exaggeration, 200 games coming out every month. Is there anything good in that pile of shit? Probably, but you'll never find it.
>>344402773
You're blatantly wrong though, Dwarf Fortress exists.
Imagine a world where always and forever, Dwarf Fortress is eternal. A good world.
>>344408670
>Not including actual good games
Aurora and Unreal World are probaly the best you can get from Indie Devs.
>>344405478
But anon, your ideal distribution is retarded, because it doesn't even FUCKING HAVE DOUBLE A YOU RETARD
>>344411351
He's been in the hellhole of gen 7-8 long enough that he doesn't even know what AA is
>>344378837
I don't see a video game crash happening any time soon. Right now, we're going through some really big changes as how we consume entertainment. All those big budget titles have to be there in order to push forward so that the technology can continue to grow, and allow for smaller studios to make use of that same technology in their own way when it becomes affordable for them in the future.
There are all sorts of games that appeal to all sorts of people, that no matter where you look, there is a business to be had, and money to be made. If anything, we will go through transitional periods.
>>344411739
>and allow for smaller studios to make use of that same technology in their own way when it becomes affordable for them in the future.
Such games exist? Indies aren't just pixelshit?
>>344378837
Why prevent it? Let the shitty indie games spill into homes and the mainstream media, let the triple-A releases pile up at Gamestop. In the end normies will be begging for developers to put actual thought into their gameplay.
>>344378837
m8 it's too big to fail at this point
we don't
>>344412416
m-moot!
>>344412232
>normies will be begging for developers to put actual thought into their gameplay
>he says this while the best selling games recently had barely any gameplay to begin with and were all about wishy washy feelmaton
>>344387134
>being this depressed over a hobby
Find a house that's not your parents
>>344412571
Will that problem ever be fixed?
>>344387134
Dont mind those other replied. You're correct in your assessment of what's happening. As it stands today I don't see our current industry slowing down in the next 5 years
>>344382647
This is pretty much it ....even if more than 90% of the releases are shit that is still a lot of nice games.
At the end of days I don´t really care because I don´t really play the type of games that would be part of a crash
I'm hoping that developers will hit the ceiling after achieving photorealistic graphics and will finally start caring about the gameplay.
>>344415606
They don't not focus on gameplay because of graphics. There might be some give and take there in regards to time spent but it's not a lot and devs not being able to improve graphics anymore isn't going to suddenly make them make good games.
>>344415753
Yeah, but they won't have anything else to spent their budget on. And if all the games, even indieshit, will look photorealistic some people might finally start caring about gameplay.
Or the story, and then the industry will burn.
>>344378837
The return of the B budget games.
AAA budgets have bloated up to grotesque proportions, where over half the budget is spent on marketing.
>>344415904
They'll spend their budget on marketing then. And it's not like if you hit photorealism budget just stops flowing to graphics. You still have to make all the assets and stuff for the game and if anything it'll just be more expensive at that point.
>>344405478
You realize the "ideal" here only exists because others have done the work for you, right?
