>NAH
What the fuck did I just play and why did I love it so much
Now play Deus Ex and Bioshock while the memory of playing SS2 is still in your headHacker
I'm yet to meet someone on /v/ who played ss2 fan missions
>>344372493
I already played Deus Ex years ago. I played Bioshock when it came out initially, and now I'm kinda disappointed by it. Bioshock wasn't "inspired by" or the "successor to," Bioshock is a straight fucking copy of SS2. Same pacing, same mechanics, nearly the same themes, so on and so forth. Of course that shit got insane metacritic scores, they were going off of a template.
>>344372393
I played through SS2 for the first time just this past week and loved it. I could never get into Deus Ex on the other hand, although I did love HR.
>why did I love it so much
I don't know, why do you like this broken overrated mess?
>>344373309
>le ss2 is bad meme
god the news of a rerelease made all the idiots come out of the woodwork
>>344372620
are you talking about that shitty looking matrix tier liberal arts mod?
>>344372620
Like what?
>>344373634
https://www.systemshock.org/index.php?board=3.0
>>344373440
Are you referring to yourself, and others in this thread praising the game? I played this a long time ago.
Why was everything past floor 5 such shit? The only part I remember enjoying was when Shodan takes away your cybernetic modules for defying her, although that was probably just because it felt like it was the only decision you can make in the entire game.
>enemies with disproportionate amounts of health and damage in comparison to everything earlier
>turret and egg spam reach new peaks, both of which will usually one hit kill you or inconvenience you greatly
>everything about The Many, the final fight and especially floor 7
>monologue makes the allegory to communism go from subtle to painfully blatant with Russian guy and Captain Diego
>they start making you backtrack a bunch, especially if you fuck up with the hell eggs
>progression basically halts at the end of floor 5, meaning the rest of the game is just using what you got in the exact same way for a few hours
>that shitty endingnot the NAH one
>all the new gamepig games are trash
>>344374371
They ran out of money and time, EA.
I'm tired seeing these holy wars in every thread, friends. Better tell me how do i proceed with my ss1 playthrough, i had like half a year pause and now i have zero clue what to do.
Is reading playthrough the only way now? There are no objectives.
I have plastique in my inventory which i don't know where to use, it seems to be a quest item
>>344372393
Just got to the bulkhead, have no ammo and a wrench. What am I in for?
>>344374660
used to blow up the antenna on the fucking station so shodan can't save herself on Megaupload.
>>344374938
You're shitposting in ss thread instead of playing the game
>>344374938
Go play it, seek validation after.
>>344374938
start a new game
>>344375286
>>344375294
Is this a new meme?
>>344375368
Life is a series of memes, there, made a new meme.
Meme.
Me-me.
Meeeeeeme.
Mmmmmmmm.
>>344375368
>playing a video game is "new meme"
>>344372620
System Shock Infinite isn't horrible. Basically a retelling of SS2 with Elizabeth timey shit.
>>344375540
I was talking about smaller missions i linked earlier. I actually played only one of them, it felt pretty cool to explore new areas, i only remember it took place on earth, there were streets and houses with hybrids walking around.
>>344372903
You say that like they were made by different companies.
Reminder to spend all your and your mother's money on this.
t. early backer and free shill
>>344376031
I pledged $75 to it and a day later they announced the $100 would include everything from the $75 tier , but also include an artbook. Now I've gotta suck some more dicks for $25 more
>>344376370
Thanks
I'm waiting for addon shop to get beta access for my poorfag tier. Although i probably shouldn't
>>344376558
How much do you think the artbook addon will cost? I'm thinking about sticking with the $75 tier and just adding on the artbook.
>>344376659
No idea, they will most likely post an update after they hit the goal money today and announce addons.
>>344372393
Now play Deus Ex and you'll go insane
>>344376031
>>344376370
Haha, backed at second to highest tier.
Needed a new laptop.
>>344377157
I don't have enough good boy points to afford that.
If the new SS has VR support, I'm going to shit myself.
Double dunk some acid & try lose my sanity inside a machine once & for all.
Full circle©
>>344377198
Borderline normalfag though, have employment and freehold domicile.
Life is mine now, time for guilt free vidya.
>>344377357
>Where am I?
>>344376370
>>344377157
How's performance for demo patch #1? It got worse for me.
>>344377391
Taking that razer laptop tier probably wasn't a very good idea, you will have to wait a year and a half, it will probably won't worth the money by that time
>>344377520
>How's performance for demo patch #1?
I wish I could say. I have no idea how to update games on GOG.
>>344372620
I played one years ago, forgot what it was called, but it was pretty much as long as the original game. And it was pretty great.
>>344377357
Devs wore VR headsets in pitch video, said vr support could be a stretch goal but I'm not seeing it reaching higher than 1.3mil.
>>344372393
You played a game that, even with obvious flaws, was still extremely good.
It's understandable for you to be in a state of shock, since so few of them are made anymore.
Unfortunately, now that you have been redpilled on what good games actually are, it will be quite difficult to enjoy most of what you play in the future. You will keep returning to a handful of titles you recoginize to be quality, while lamenting that nothing is ever worth playing anymore. Gradually becoming a bitter, ranting, bile-machine of a gamer, looking to vent his spleen out with others who've had simular awakenings.
IOW congrats. Lurk moar is no longer for you - you're finally part of /v/.
>>344377708
This × 1.1billion.
>>344377708
>Unfortunately, now that you have been redpilled on what good games actually are, it will be quite difficult to enjoy most of what you play in the future
Fucking this.
I played SS2 for the first time last year and have a hard time playing anything else (besides Deus Ex) because nothing even comes close.
>>344377591
Either use their galaxy client or just re-download the demo and install it again.
Or get it on steam
>>344377520
Yeah, not really worried desu. The $750 tier sold out while my card kept getting declined for no reason so I went full retard instead.
Performance wise the GOG version is pretty good, unremarkable, but the Steam version has an Oops! screen at about the halfway point, still haven't completed it (Steam version).
>>344377842
Yeah, I have the galaxy client and have all my games set to "Update Automatically" but I never got any prompted to update it. Just going to install it again.
>>344377708
Dark Messiah excelled in some and failed in other departments to a similar degree. As did STALKER. Shit, all the /v/ core really.
>>344377708
>played deus ex
>then ss2
>then bioshocks
>then ss1
>enjoyedeverything
>although infinite as a game to a lesser extent, but pretty good as a movie
>>344377878
You mean CTD before you have to take a ladder down to spiderbot? That crash was adressed in patch#1
>>344378030
>tfw Vampire Masquerade Bloodlines was pure trash
>>344378008
Man I wish we still got A and AA games instead of just Indies and AAAs
>>344378138
Loved it too, felt pretty deu sexy in terms of world building.
The only downside for me was ranged combat and poor optimization.
>>344377708
There should be a list of games that everyone has to play before posting on /v/, including SS, SS2, and Deus Ex.
What else?
>>344378354
But the original SS has really bad controls.
At least SS2 for sure.
>>344372903
You know the same guys made SS2 and BioShock, right? The "Shock" in the name isn't a coincidence. It was even advertised as a spiritual successor.
Also
>nearly the same themes
Not hardly.
SS2 was about the dichotomy of individualism and collectivism. The writer even said SHODAN was the lesser of the two evils presented, but the proper response was to rebel against both extremes.
BioShock was a respectful criticism of Objectivism by applying Levine's undertanding of Rand's economic/moral policies in an underwater society.
Both are great, but they're not the same thing.
>>344378354
There was a list, it basically just include all critically acclaimed classics.
>>344378354
E.Y.E Divine Cybermancy
>>344378458
Sure, but I still think SS is important to understand how well games progressed at the time and to better appreciate SS2
>>344378541
Couldn't get into it, too confusing. I love the memes though
>>344378138
I agree
>>344378618
If you ever feel determined, play through at least 3-4 hours. It all comes to light. You're suppose to be confused as your character has lost his memory.
>>344376031
When will Kickstarter charge my card? When it gets fully funded or when the campaign ends?
Sorry, never backed before.
I finished playing SS1, loved it, so I started playing through SS2, I just got to floor 3 but I'm not really feeling it. Should I keep going or am I better off taking a break and coming back after my memories of SS1 have settled down?
>>344379165
When the campaign ends iirc
>>344379329
Thank you, my man
>>344377683
System Shock 3? I'll buy a headset if that got VR
>>344372393
Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines if you haven't already and obviously System Shock 1
>>344379580
>Warren Spector is directing SS3
There is no way it can be bad now.
>>344379616
>shitty gameplay
>unfinished mess riddled with bugs
>generic story
Nah, m8.
>>344372393
You may also enjoy E.Y.E. in spite all its flaws
>>344379770
nah that game was bad
>>344379990
Well if you don't give a shit about graphics Betrayal at Krondor and Darklands
>>344378591
Agreed. System Shock was way ahead of its time in terms of technology. Their only problem was the key mapping. Most people that can get around the controls end up loving the game
>>344379580
No, ss reboot. It's still too early for ss3
>>344379724
*coughs*
>>344372393
>why did I love it so much
Because you're a meme spouting idiot, trying desperately to fit in? Because you have shit taste? Because you're easily amused? That game is objectively bad.
Quick question: what are the recommended mods for this?
>>344378008
>Dark Messiah
mah nig. that game deserved more recognition.
>>344380660
check out Arx Fatalis and Severance Blade of Darkness as well then
>>344378467
Great post. Post more on this website please.
>>344378129
Nah, just after the long hallway with the mutant, before the rings of Saturn music. Every time a coconut. The GOG version hasn't crashed once.
>>344380265
This is the funniest underage meme.
IW wasn't even a bad game. It was critically panned at worst, though frequently enough celebrated to be called a "good game" going by reviews. Even for most fans, it was just an unfortunate deviation from the original that favored simplicity and made some poor design decisions (such as universal ammunition.)
It was still leagues ahead of anything else coming out at the time. You need to stop believing every opinion you read on the internet.
>>344380265
This meme needs to die.
Was Invisible War bad? Absolutely not.
Was it a worthy sequel to the first? Same answer.
The story and atmosphere were great. The gameplay, albeit much much more simplified and inferior to the first, but it is still a good game.
>>344381289
>>344381310
not meme, tried to get into it six time, it's shit. Even the Fall is better
>>344381392
That's the shittiest opinion I've read in a while, no trolling.
>>344381289
>>344381310
Well it originally wasn't supposed to be a Deus Ex game
It gets the same rap as Daikatana (that due to build up and marketing campaign fucking Romero).
>>344380445
http://neutralx2.com/2013/07/14/system-shock-2-mod-pack
Just some graphical mods.
>>344381435
What?
I know about the inverse situation with Project Snowblind, but can you tell me more about this? You mean to say that at some point *after* pre-production, it was decided that this would be a Deus Ex title?
Do you even have a single fact to back that up?
>>344380265
I'm always confused as to how much he actually had to do with that one.
He's never credited for it, not even as producer much less director. But when he talks to people about it personally, he makes it sound like everything wrong with it was all on him.
I can't tell if he's accepting the blame because he actually made bad decisions for it, or because he felt like he should've stopped Harvey from going over the falls.
>>344381516
Whatever.
Wake me up when Sheldon Pacotti is writing the games again.
>>344381392
That's how I know you're a liar.
I have no inclination to defend IW, but Fall wasn't just a bad DX game, it was a horrible, broken, retard-level-simplified piece of shit by any type of game's standards.
>Do an entire build by specializing only in Research, Modify, Exotic and Repair and no other upgrades
Holy fuck that was difficult. I beat it but goddamn. If you invest in any other non-psi upgrade comparatively the game is an absolute cakewalk.
>>344378138
>>344378795
i would say to castrate yourself to prevent your subhuman IQ from being passed along - but we all know you're never reproducing anyways
>>344381650
You are free to believe what you want.
>they didn't install the FOV fix for IW
>they didn't install the high res textures
IW is literally a good game as long as you understand it was released in a time where consoles were the hottest thing and you make it look like a PC game
>>344381874
Thank God someone finally says it.
You have to be a genuine retard or a bandwagoner if you think IW is a bad game.
>>344381509
Read up on the Ion Storm history, it was meant to be a cyberpunk game in a similar universe, but minus JC etc that got adapted into what IW became when they cancelled the other sequels/prequels they had lined up.
>>344374660
You have to find four antennas on the Engineering deck, and plant the explosives at each one.
>>344382081
Thanks.
>>344374660
Plant explosives andstay a while, hacker.
>>344381874
Doesn't fix the worst crime which is the tiny ass levels and loading screens desu
At least Thief Deadly Shadows has a mod that puts all the tiny levels into bigger single levels to remove load screens
>>344372393
You just played what's still the best example of its genre, if you can even call it that.
>>344382167
If you forget what to do, just check the e-mails, they'll always give the general objectives, then audio logs tell how to do them
>>344372393
>tfw I beat SS1 a few days ago
>I just beat SS2 today
I'm so happy. Both were fantastic.
>>344381678
No one wants to discuss builds?
What a shame
>>344380445
follow the newbie modding guide at systemshock dot org, it has the basic graphical mods to make it look pretty and the community patch that balances the game a bit and fixes bugs
>>344381504
>Rebirth
Haha. No.
>>344380876
Will do. I've heard of them but never played them.
>>344377357
>le "you need to be HIIIIIGHHHHH to really enjoy weird shit bro xDDD" meme
I hope you overdose and suffocate on your own vomit
>>344381678
>decompression soon, fellow soldier
>>344382549
I played about half of the game about a year ago but restarted recently, is going pure energy weapons going to be hell at the start? I've found maybe two pistols and not a lot of portable batteries, do they get more common later or will I have to get a regular pistol for backup?
>>344372393
Because you're a weird nerd
>>344380445
SHTUP
Four Hundred
Music Patch
SCP
DO NOT GET SHIT LIKE REBIRTH
>>344381289
>>344381310
DX:IW is just a mediocrity with one or two cool moments and a lot of bad design choices. Project Snowblind was better.
>>344382549
I just beat the game (first time) with a primary focus on Standard Weapons and Hacking. Not the most exciting build in the world but hacking literally everything was so fucking fun. Running up to turrets and hacking them was the best part.
>>344383089
About 1/3 of the game enemies are robots 2/3 is organics.
Portable batteries are rare in general, but almost every deck have recharging station or two, carry two laser pistols and have high maint stat for dat ammo pool.
You can also recharge them with psi spell.
If you don't want to stick to energy only gimmick too tight have standard 3 for shotguns.
>>344383089
Energy weapons are pretty pointless in general since AP ammo exists. It takes too much investment to be able to use the pulse rifle instead of just maxing small guns and taking 1 point in heavy weapons for the grenade launcher.
>>344383839
He's doing a gimmick run and you're suggesting a cookie cutter build, let man have some fun.
>>344377157
You could have jsut bought a good laptop for less
>>344382167
That's all plastique is good for by the way, so just grab 4. The rest is just there to look pretty.
>>344380445
Only mods I'd recommend is SHTUP (texture pack, unlike every other game these textures are faithful as fuck and literally look like the old textures but better) and various bugfix mods like ADOBD or whatever it's called
>>344380265
DELET
THIS
>>344373440
>le ss2 is good meme
>>344383089
I played with energy weapons and it was fine. Got lightsaber, maxed agility and bought all the speed mods. You need to put some points in other kinds of weapons though.
>>344382019
Yeah but that doesn't mean anything at all if it happened during pre-production. That shit happens all the time.
>>344381982
IW is lame as hell.
The first DX dropped you off on an island overrun by terrorists and told you to git gud. The stakes were laid out right in front of you. The game's world was relatable, built on conspiracy theories that everyone's familiar with. The political struggle in the game was a perfect representation of the very real "Jihad vs. McWorld" - traditionalism and isolationism versus globalism.
IW starts out with like three guys coming into your building. After dispatching them and stepping out into the wide world of future Seattle, you are immediately confronted with the fact that there isn't anything worth caring about. It's boring and pointless.
Thank you based fully registered Tri-Optimum service unit
Never played this but I see people recommending this, but never speaking of its prequel (does it even exist?)
It's rare to see a sequel be the superior game. What gives?
>>344386061
Ron Paul tried to say this years ago and they laughed him off the floor with it. People suck. Sorry I'm OT.
>>344375972
They were. Most everything good about System Shock 2 can be attributed to Looking Glass, not Irrational (who were working out of Looking Glass's office at the time). Irrational had some decent games, Freedom Force and SWAT4, but to credit them with SS2 is absolutely ridiculous.
>>344386883
If only Raven or Monolith was still about Ion Storm fucked up.
Whatever happened to that one mod that was going to completely overhaul the graphics?
>>344387354
There were no such mod for SS2, just a combination of various visual mods.
>>344387516
It's UpRez, but the mod's basically dead in the water.
>>344372903
This is why I prefer Bioshock 2 over 1. Felt more like its own thing.
>1.7M Goal: Turn SS1 into SS2
>>344386180
SS1 scares people because of old PC controls. SS1 is just as good, if not better than SS2. They're both amazing games and playing one but not the other is a disgrace.
>>344389192
They won't make it at the rate its going. It might not even make to 1mil.
>>344389372
They're almost at their target, and the last week always have a ton of new backers.
>>344372903
They even have the exact same twist of "Surprise! Your mission control is actually the main villain in disguise!"
>>344389192
Wait what, is someone asking for money to make an updated system shock 2?
>>344389192
It's going to be a mix off both either way, works for me.
>>344389192
They discussed a goal which would add a classic mode without those additions in a recent update.It's better than nothing.
>>344390239
To be fair, Shodan never once tries to hide that she's going to murder you once you get rid of the annelids for her. You could argue that Shodan controls the player with upgrade modules in the same way that Atlas controls the player with mental conditioning, but I wouldn't draw any parallels beyond that.
>>344390368
SS1 with SS2 as a ridiculous goal
Demo of SS1 remake is on steam, GOG etc
>>344390368
Some stretch goals for the System Shock remake are incorporating mechanics from SS2 and that makes people upset.
>>344390596
I mean in that she pretends to be Polito at first before the Big Reveal
>>344390646
>>344390723
Why do they want to remake it anyway?
>>344390881
Cause it's dated shit that's unplayable by today's standards. Really all they have to do is put SS2's gameplay in SS1 and they have themselves a perfect game.
>>344390881
Night Dive just got the taste for it making EX and HD versions of old games and with SS3 coming seems like a cool thing since they did a nice recreation which is the playable alpha pre the kickstarter.
Not gonna lie I backed it in spite of owning the original big box, EE and such.
>>344372393
crow pls
>>344375045
>Megaupload
Anon, I...
>>344377591
I just downloaded demo from gog and it's the old one, they probably forgot to update the download there.
>>344391249
that's the joke
>>344391049
>put SS2's gameplay in SS1
fuck off
>>344391674
>implying SS1's gameplay is good in any way
lol
>>344391791
>Wanting a shitty unbalanced rpg instead of a polished first-person metroidvania dungeon crawler
>>344392051
dont try to reason with SS2fags
>>344392051
>>Wanting a shitty unbalanced rpg
Oh fuck off, I didn't even make that argument. I want to be able to move and walk around freely with a mouse like a modern game, not a fucking point and click adventure.
>>344392051
SS1fags think they balanced...
HE memein
>>344375368
Your life is a meme. Kys yourself my man.
Why do you faggots have SS vs SS2 war? It's so fucking stupid, they're both amazing
>>344392502
SS1 doesn't have item duplication and health regen perks, hence it's superior.
>>344394160
Fighting about things is fun
>>344383089
At the start? Not really, you can kill hybrids in one maxed shot, Id say it could get rough later on as you'll find plenty of strong organic enemies towards the end, last time I played the game I only used energy weapons and a grenade launcher.
>>344391049
>Cause it's dated shit that's unplayable by today's standards
Fuck off. I beat the game last week for the first time in my life (and without mouselook) with no problems at all.
Can we all agree that both SS1 and SS2 are good games and that the real cancer is anything with BioShock in its name?
going through security rn
good thing i have like 70 medpacks
>>344377357
SS1 had VR support.
>>344396376
Yes.
>>344396376
Bioshock 1 and 2 were okay though.
>>344372493
>Bioshock
Nah.
![I like [game].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lNZpIKj.jpg "I like [game].jpg")
>>344396376
I like all of themexcept Infinite.I don't think it's shit but it doesnt appeal to me. And I've already had the story spoiled for me.
Why cant they just remaster the soundtrack as well i dont want a fucking remix pack just update the original
So now I'm wondering what is SHODAN up to now.
The ending of SS2 has some rather disturbing implications...
>>344400763
she's exploring human sexuality
>>344400823
That's what I feared.
With her goddess complex and what the ending implied...I think SS3 will be quite disturbing if it will be made.
>>344399867
DUDE
>>344401089
>hot Shodan fucking
>disturbing
>feared
>>344372493
>bioshock
>>344376031
>>344376370
>>344379165
>>344377157
jesus christ
>>344401089
>Shodan sex
>bad
>>344401089
Are you a girl or something, post tits
>>344376031
what geemu desu ka
>>344400131
Rename your pic to "I need [attention].jpg"
>>344401521
http://store.steampowered.com/app/482400/
i'd rather fuck a Cyborg Enforcer
>>344402505
>not midwaifu
Are people really so brain damaged that they can't get their heads around SS1's controls, especially since mouselook mod is a thing? Everything is laid out right there for you in the HUD, and most actions have a hotkey. It's no wonder they don't make manuals any more since apparently no one can read them.
I wish EE had the MAC OS music
PC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPmFYBY6eF0
MAC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17FAFpmNIWA
>>344402649
doesn't help that there's literally a reference card included with most releases that just tell you all the controls
>>344401249
>>344401367
>>344401449
Just think about it.
The Many were a failed experiment and SHODAN wants something of a servant race that would worship her.
What's not the best idea here?Do it the old fashioned way. And if the Citadel stuff (aka: Cyborg Mutants) and The Many (organic biotech) didn't work, then why not combine the two and do it with a different way?
Though on the other hand she's hypocritical because she's using a human body to do so. Something she detests.
>>344403048
ss1
>cyborgs
>mutants
ss2
>cyborgs
>mutants
ss3
>cyborgs
>mutants
There you go, solved you a mystery.
>>344403351
I'd go with biomechanical cyber-life that combines both technological and organic on a molecular level if SS3 ever happened.
>>344403556
>biomechanical cyber-life that combines both technological and organic on a molecular level
woah, that's a lot of contradictory sci-fi buzzwords in a single sentence.
>>344403912
Have less buzzwordy ideas? If so I'd love to hear them out.But seriously it's the only thing I could come up with that is not cyborg, mutant or cyborg mutant or mutant cyborg.
>>344403993
>Have less buzzwordy ideas?
Yes, cyborgs and mutants
>>344404181
Oh well, at least I tried.
>>344403048
the many werent part of shodan's plan
they were an experiment of hers that went awry in the wild life grove her node was in after it crash landed on tau ceti 5
they evolved on their own took over the von braun before she could do anything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp5xGLj1RME
>>344402505
My nigga.
>>344395815
> without mouse look
hardcore to the max
>>344391049
>SS2's gameplay in SS1
Daily reminder that melee monsters are literally incapable of hitting you in SS2 if you move, because their attack animations and movement animations are separate.
Daily reminder that SS2 RPG systems are horrendous trash.
>>344395815
>and without mouselook
>>344404480
Yeah. An experiment out of control. But still she wanted to control them...
>>344372620
I did! One took place on a spooky space ship, the other two featured ground missions and a Thief homage. They were pretty fun, level design and enemy placement was better than I expected from a fan project.
The only downside was the audio logs, but I suppose that's a given. The makers had the right to have fun with their project.
>>344372620
I know I played some of them many years ago, but for some reason I can't remember them very well.
I think I played one that took place on a spaceship or space station where there monsters in cryo sleep, and at some point you accidentally wake them up. I want to say that the monsters were dinosaurs but I can't tell if I'm just getting my memories mixed up with Gunman Chronicles or other Half-Life mods.
>>344377607
>>344404839
>>344404860
thanks for replies, made me feel good for some reason
>>344404825
read the wiki bruv she didnt even know about it until after she got reactivated
http://shodan.wikia.com/wiki/The_Many
>>344405260
OH...it was years since I looked into all those things.
>>344372620
Never, the fan missions of thief can be pretty good so maybe I should try them. I wonder why they're not as popular though.
>>344386409
The effects remind me of Infinite - in a negative way, of course.
>>344405643
Yeah, most UE3 games have really really shitty fire effects reminiscent of bright orange neon foam
>>344404653
>Daily reminder that melee monsters are literally incapable of hitting you in SS2 if you move, because their attack animations and movement animations are separate.
I'm pretty sure on harder difficulties they have access to much faster animations so hitting them in melee and trying to back off without getting hit back is harder to pull off.
>Daily reminder that SS2 RPG systems are horrendous trash.
That's a matter of taste. At least the system is more sophisticated than Dead Space's and I haven't seen people complain about that one. Besides, the game makes sure you can afford the critical skills, so how you want to tool yourself up is up to you.
>>344401668
arigatou gozaimasu famalamio
>>344405798
But this is a Unity game.
>>344405956
I know, but the fire looks exactly the same, hence anon parallels with bioshock infinite
Ta-da!~
>>344407019
WA-LA!
>>344407019
So how long until they reach one million?
>>344407095
A few days i think
>>344407095
Media will do more stories now that they've reached their goal, so with the added attention from that, like 48 hours tops.
>>344407019
Less than a week.
>>344407019
We did it, reddit!
>>344407168
>>344407217
Talk about dedication.
>>344407019
Cool.
I actually have faith in this. I hope to God I'm not wrong. Any Kickstarter can be the next MN9 now.
>>344407217
They were being covered pretty heavily for the past few days because almost funded, the stretch goals are pretty boring so i think it will go downhill from there with inevitable spike on the last day
Did you back them, /v/?
>>344407514
Yeah.
Was going to back $50, but I wanted a physical copy too so I went with $75.
>>344407514
Nah.I want to but I'm fucking poor
>>344381310
This right here.
>>344405894
>I'm pretty sure
You are wrong, I only ever played the game on Impossible and it's pretty obvious. Anyway, you don't ever have to hit high-tier melee enemies like rumblers because the game shits anti-personnel bullets by that point, though I'm sure a melee build can pull that off nontheless.
>At least the system is more sophisticated
Sophistication does not mean quality, complexity isn't a goal by itself. I didn't play Dead Space (I've been meaning to, it looks fun), but as long as it doesn't have combat skills that pretend to be good but are actually horrible, I assume it's okay.
>the game makes sure you can afford the critical skills
So what you're saying is "the system is extremely loose so it's not a big deal if you waste a ton of nanomodules in a completely useless tree". Yeah, that does sound right.
>>344407349
There's a playable demo since day 1 and they're even updating it, there's no way it's going to be that bad.
>>344407514
25$
>tfw I'm one of 300 people in the world who cared so much they camped project page to go live
>tfw when i learned to participate in system shock threads, but not in ss1 vs ss2 shitposting
>>344407807
Oh, and I want to add something, because it's really not clear: I really like SS2. I loved it after the first playthrough. In retrospect, I realize it has all these problems - a lot of those - but my first impression was overwhelmingly positive. The game has great atmosphere, music, logs, characters and the gameplay feels tense at least in the early game. I don't hate it, I just recognize the flaws in the gameplay.
>>344407807
>Sophistication does not mean quality, complexity isn't a goal by itself.
It's not, but having more options to choose from is a good thing. That's what SS2 achieves as you can have a fully functional melee, PSI playthroughs and standard weapons (with the grenade launcher tossed in). Energy has the benefit of a laser rapier as well as making the laser pisol somewhat more useful for camera/droid busting, even if the tree falls off in the late game. Exotic suffers from unexplained weapon use (who knew you had to HOLD LMB to not blow yourself up with the Viral Proliferator?) or bloated requirements but yields the best melee weapon.
>So what you're saying is "the system is extremely loose so it's not a big deal if you waste a ton of nanomodules in a completely useless tree". Yeah, that does sound right.
In what way is the system loose? You won't get locked out of progress because you're given enough modules to pick up the necessary skills. Research only needs level 1 and I think it can be circumvented with the implant. Hacking is more expensive but if you were a careful player you'll have an ICE-pick or two ready. The standard pistol is reliable and effective, provided you have enough specialised ammo which you should have, thanks to the savings made from your other skills. The grenade launcher also requires a minuscule investment boasting versatility and extremely high damage once modified, the latter thanks to a bug.
The more I think of it, the more I wonder how inept one would have to be to screw up their build. The game takes a lot of cues from the survival horror without resorting to the gimmick that is unkillable enemies. It is unique to finally have a game from that genre where your resources can be considered finite (especially for a new player) and you have to manage them carefully.
Finally, Dead Space is a great series, at least the first two games are. Verdict is mixed up as far as DS3 goes, though most of the time /v/ has been overreacting.
>>344407514
No, I don't want to contribute to those shitty stretch goals.
>>344409207
If the options are non-obviously fake - I have to disagree. Standard weapons are hideously OP even if we decide to exclude shit-on-everything-in-a-can that is Assault Rifle (two-shotting rumblers and military robots? You better fucking believe it!) because pistol with some training, mods and specialized ammo is still hilariously strong and shotgun ammo is everywhere, especially if you take your time and reload every hybrid's shotgun for the last shell (I did that!). Oh yeah, and the more Standard you have, the better your wrench is - not like you're going to need it past first couple of floors.
Heavy weapons - GL is very good because of the bug. Stasis projector is commonly agreed to be shit, I actually liked it in exactly one place in the body of the Many. Fusion blaster or whatever it's called is a disappointment.
Energy - laser pistol is like my favorite gun in the game because I'm autistic enough to backtrack to the recharge stations and it's possible to repair it with starting Repair skill. Rapier is supposedly good, rifle supposedly shits on robots... but you can already do that with armour-piercing bullets???
Exotic - again, cool melee weapon, SHIT everything else... except for those implants, do you need Exotic for them? Oh, right, you only need research. Well. The guns suck, Worm Launcher requires like 6 Maintenance (what the fuck) and by the time you get it you have cheaper option to kill organic enemies. What the fuck were they EVEN thinking.
Btw your resources are not finite at all (unless you mean cyber-modules, really) - activate a medical bed in an area and you can farm hybrids for nanites and shit. I've done it for some reason for a bit. I've also ended the game with like 700 bullets of only standard ammo, 300 or so shells. Never bought any ammo either.
>>344407514
I would if it wasn't for some of the stretch goals.
What's so wrong with adding some of the better elements from SS2 into the SS remake for the stretch goals?
Wouldn't just be making the game better?
>>344381709
You first. VTM:B is mediocre in every aspect and only carried by its story.
>>344372903
>nearly the same themes
Okay, that´s bullshit.
>>344372903
But DUDE, AYN RAND, LMAOBioShock 1 and Infinite are shit in two very different ways, but they're both way up their own asses. As another anon said, 2 is ironically the only one you should play.
>>344383207U H H H T H I C K
>>344411650
2 is literal dogshit in every conceivable way, I picked it up and beat it in 6 hours, the last hour of which I was just wishing it would end already. It had absolutely nothing of note to say with its paper thin philosophical bullshit, and I barely remember it which can only be a good thing. 1 had an alright twist and was competent, and 3 at least tried to change up the environment even if the story and gameplay was by far the worst of the 3. 2 was a clone without any of the elements that made the first game good.
>>344411298
SS1 was not meant to be an RPG, slapping on an RPG progression system isn't necessarily going to improve things when SS1 was already designed for players to progress by finding equipment. If I went through the trouble of unlocking the magpulse on the medical deck, but then the game tells me I can't use it because I don't have Energy Weapons 3 yet, I don't see how that would be an improvement.
As much as I like SS2, I think the RPG parts are weak.
>>344390239
No, BS has a guy who was basically just mentioned suddenly being the BBEG, SS2 has SHODAN reveal herself after gaining your trust, being thouroughly discussed in the audiologs and after an actual buildup, not just before the point where she is going to kill you.
>>344372393
It's good to know where Doom 3 and Dead Space pilfered most of their ideas.
