What went wrong?
>>344352390
They scraped everything 6 months prior to release and patched shit together to ship in that time.
>>344352390
Fucking hell, this game was such a disappointment
>>344352390
It wasn't the original E3 trailer from five years ago.
>>344352390
Metaphysics.
>>344352390
DUDE OPPOSITE OF RAPTURE LMAO
Not only was it a shit game, but Burial at Sea actually managed to ruin the first Bioshock for me. I didn't even think that was fucking possible.
>>344354907
"No," says the man in Washington, "it belongs to the poor."
"No," says the man in the Vatican, "it belongs to God."
"No," says the man in Moscow, "it belongs to everyone."
>>344352390
>What went wrong?
Ken Levine.
Many people say it was unfinished and rushed, but that isn't the case. Many interviews and delay announcements point to "different direction" in terms of story. Ken Levine backtracked during development, not happy with the story as he wanted to tell a specific one.
Here's a list of things BI would've have if they didn't change development before its final delay announcement.
All base on interviews and early footage
>dynamic weather
>possible open world
>choices that will effect story drastically(Ex.Taking Liz to Paris or not)
>dynamic events (Ex. Structures falling)
>Varient levels
>Dark tone like prior shock games
>the Time Travel would've serve a greater purpose in terms of story and gameplay
>bossss with the Bird would've been dynamic (dynamic was a huge focus as you can see) you can either hide from it or chip away health through the whole game
Shame too. Love the setting, if only they just stick with what they had...
>>344352390
>what do people love about Bioshock?
>"paving their way through Rapture with their own unique combination of plasmids and tonics that fits their play styles, upgrading their favorite guns but being able to adapt to any situation by swapping to heavy weapons when needed, preparing for fights against Big Daddies, cautiously exploring every new area until they find out what new challenges await, being rewarded for painstakingly crawling through every nook and cranny, and becoming immersed in the ruins of Ryan's dream city due to the well-designed architecture and the eccentric characters that still call it home?"
>no you idiot they love THE SHOOTING! what we need is a sniper rifle, and we'll have them only need to choose between two weapons so the shooting is real streamlined
>"but-"
>MORE FOOT SOLDIERS, MORE HANDYMEN, DEDICATED MELEE BUTTON, AND AN EXECUTION ABILITY! THEY WON'T EVEN NEED TO USE VIGORS!
>>344355280
How so?
>>344352390
What didn't?
>Bio means water
>Game takes place in sky
>>344355594
It was so far from any of those things. That was a very ambitious list of shit.
>>344356929
Bio means life, you dummy
>>344356929
I always thought of it as bio as in biography, since the protag of every game gets a 'shock' to his bio as he find out more about his past.
>>344356929
Hydro means water, retard. Bio means life. Bioshock is referring to the shock to your system that you get from rapid genetic modification.
>>344357214
What do you thing "bio" means in the context of the word "biography"?
What is it summarizing?
>>344352390
>>344353282
Quite possibly the worst game I ever payed.
Mediocre to bad by its own gameplay merits, made many times worse since it was such a huge step back from earlier games in the series rather than moving forward.
But even the shit gameplay pales compared to the story and writing, and that is saying something.
I pirated it and still feel like I was ripped off.
>>344357583
I just got it
DON'T MIND ME
>>344357583
Someone's bio. That's why it's called a "biography." You portray it in graphic detail.
>>344352390
not the worst game of all time, but definitely the worst quality/budget ratio of all time
>>344355747
>paving their way through Rapture with their own unique combination of plasmids and tonics that fits their play styles, upgrading their favorite guns but being able to adapt to any situation by swapping to heavy weapons when needed, preparing for fights against Big Daddies, cautiously exploring every new area until they find out what new challenges await, being rewarded for painstakingly crawling through every nook and cranny, and becoming immersed in the ruins of Ryan's dream city due to the well-designed architecture and the eccentric characters that still call it home?
This is why Bioshock 2 is the best of the Bioshocks despite the mediocre writing.
Remember when Kenny Levine said he wanted that game cover so he could literally attract the attention of Call Of Duty fratbros? That's kind of where I started worrying.
>>344355594
You're the rube.
>>344357939
>Quite possibly the worst game I ever payed.
Nigga you haven't played enough games.
I had more fun with Infinite than the first two Bioshock games. One of the most enjoyable games of the whole last gen.
>>344357939
>Game starts with a baptizing
>Strolling through a happy city full of happy people.
>Clouds, singing, etc.
>You use a grappling hook to destroy a cops face.
Excellent pacing.
>>344358487
Is such shit taste even possible?
>>344358487
(You)
>>344358174
Bioshock 2 is the shittiest in the series for me, literally because you're a big daddy and thusly any 'threat' seems mitigated and thusly the whole reason the first game was cool to me was non existent in the second
>>344358382
I tend to avoid obviously bad games, it's true. Perhaps time has dulled my memory of mediocre and bad games I've played in the past.
I seriously can't think of one worse than Bioshock Infinite. I hate it more than any other game.
The badness that separates Bioshock Infinite apart from other games goes beyond mere mechanics. The game's writing is so bad and annoying and offensive that it is beyond compare. Through the terrible, terrible writing and plot and characters the game transcends merely being mediocre or even bad. It becomes something truly, truly infuriatingly terrible.
>>344358769
I don't like horror games so B1 wasn't fun. B2 was just pure shit, no one likes it. BI was pretty good with the best escort companion ever and a pretty okay plot.
>>344358858
Once you revive once in Bioshock 1 then any threat thereafter is gone. The patch helped this at least, but Bioshock 2 lets you turn them off at the beginning.
Bioshock 2 can be pretty unsettling with Brute and the updated Spider Splicers, and Big Sisters and the like as well.
I'm more interesting in the fun gameplay and Bioshock 2 improves on Bioshock 1 in every way in that department.
>>344352390
It alternated between being a bad walking simulator that had nothing to say about anything but took forever saying it and a really fucking awful Serious Sam inspired FPS
Oh and the whole thing seemed to be cobbled together from trailer footage and scrapped multiplayer assets.
>>344359165
Are you trying to be wrong?
If you are on congratulate you on your subtly, it almost seems candid.
>>344352390
I pirated it and still felt ripped off
I had someone try to defend Bioshock Infinite to me by saying the abundance of violence unrelated to the story and lack of choices was a deliberate critique of modern video games and that I didn't get it.
>>344359309
>The patch helped this at least, but Bioshock 2 lets you turn them off at the beginning.
Bioshock 1 also lets you turn off vita chambers.
>>344359478
My thoughts exactly.
Free was too expensive, I feel like my entire life is poorer for having played that shitty game.
>>344359404
How can opinions be wrong?
Infinite > B1 >>>>> B2
Opinions.
>>344358865
>The entire gunsmith/Fink industries plot
Seriously Ken what the fuck?
>>344359659
>Bioshock 1 also lets you turn off vita chambers.
Only when they patched it, like I said. In the original version you could not turn off vita chambers. When they released a patch along with the DLC, they could be turned off.
>>344358865
*tips fedora*
>>344359718
What's wrong with Bioshock 2?
>>344352390
Nothing really went wrong. So much as nothing went amazingly right.
Bioshock 1 creepy atmosphere and feeling was a game you can only pull off once.
Bioshock 2 was a game were you are literally a big daddy shooting your way thru it like a Disney ride.
BioshockInfinity tried to copy number 1 in the sky and it was eh.
>>344359928
Nothing
He's obviously b8ting
>>344359165
>I don't like horror games so B1 wasn't fun.
None of the bioshocks are horror.
>B2 was just pure shit, no one likes it
A lot do.
>BI was pretty good... a pretty okay plot
Wrong.
>>344359718
>How can opinions be wrong?
Yours are.
>>344359872
Right back at you.
>>344360093
>None of the bioshocks are horror.
>B1 opens with literal horror scene
Okay.
absolutely nothing if the Zionist video games media is to be believed
>>344360248
are you literally 12
>>344359506
On that note the previous protagonist also killed hundreds of people but there was a explanations for such slaughter and also why they were able to do it while Booker is capable of killing an army by himself and shrugging gunshots for no reason, wich is actually inconsistent with the knife-to-the-hand scene.
>>344360292
No even they turned on it after people started to say that the bit where all the blacks and irish suddenly turn evil was racist
>>344360248
Well Burial at Sea shows Jack hijacking the plane.
That was pretty cash.
>>344359165
Bioshock Is my all time favourite game. Infinite waa mediocre at best, but still better than 2.
>>344360698
>Bioshock Is my all time favourite game
Well some people like you don't have any taste but you can have a shitty opinion if you want.
I would just like to say that all the shit you could do with security bots in Bioshock 2 was amazing.
Summoning them, powering them up, repairing them and giving them little names. It's a fucking blast. Bioshock 2 really polished what Bioshock 1 did.
>>344360698
You need to replay 2, there is no way Infinite is better.
bioshock infinite will never not make me angry
like goddamn
all that wasted potential, all those opportunities, wasted because of Levine's massive yet fragile ego
the massive skyrails, the much more interesting encounters, the actual choices, the new way to use vigors, the weapon wheel (why couldn't they just patch it in the original fucking hell the two weapon system was stupidly slapped on), all gone
>>344360896
I don't need to play 2 at all to know it's bad.
>>344361350
kys
>>344361419
this 2bh
>>344361350
Fuck off faggot
>>344361419
>>344361450
>>344361521
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm9Eta491O8
Educate yourself.
>>344355376
what did he mean by this
>>344361124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOx4HKrYHKc
Why did they change it? It's no secret most of the game was remade but why?.
This sums up all my gripes. It just doesn't feel like a Bioshock game.
The Burial at Sea DLC was great, tho
>>344360896
Fair enough, it's been a long time since I played it.
>>344361879
Levine was constantly unhappy with the plot and kept changing it until 2K forced him to keep one of them
I hope the originals leak one day, curious what the outlines were
>>344362054
America should be more like Venezuela.
>>344362054
>>>/reddit/
>>344362106
>>344352390
Y'all got LEVINE'D, thats what went wrong. And me too, we all believed from that E3 demo it was gonna be the best bioshock. Six years ago; when Bullshots were only just coming into the scandal limelight, Levine took a steaming one in the collective mouth of gamerdom everywhere and we licked our lips and picked corn nuggets out of our teeth and said "Thank you sir". Well now hes laughing in his crystal synagogue counting the dough and writing elizabeth fan fic with a platinum mont blanc. Gamers are the most gullible cunts out
>>344361698
>most of the gameplay is pretty much unchanged
>also
>yahtzee e-celeb bullshit
kys cuck
>>344360801
Hey man, I love the atmosphere, the variety of different approachs of combat, and exploring each new area. Ain't nothing wrong with any of that
the plasmids were so dumbed down in infinite
every single one felt like the same power with a slight twist
>>344358574
>mfw
>That's a bit much. Guy was just there to do his job.
... It's probably okay 'cause I'm the good guy, right?
>>344352390
Almost everything.
>>344360884
Polishing the gameplay of the first one is about the only thing it did right.
Everything else felt like bad fan fiction that went places the original was too smart and self aware not to go.
What made the original good for me was the setting and atmosphere, gameplay and mechanics were already a (sort of retarded and immersion breaking at times) step down from System Shock 2, so polishing what was already just a concolized version of a better thing didn't really make it a worthy sequel and I'd rather play Infinite over it.
>>344361350
>I don't need to play 2 at all to know it's bad
Correction:
>I don't need to play 2 to say I don't like it
But you do need to play it to say its bad.
>>344361698
>All sequels need to add something COMPLETELY different
Why? Bioshock 2 is just a more polished and fun version of the first game
>Yahtzee
kys faggot
>>344362106
He pulled a John Romero then
>Guy makes a name for himself working in a team
>Gets total control for a project
>Keeps making changes and fails to meet the deadline
>Fucks up big time
>>344355747
>MORE HANDYMEN
There were only like four in the whole game
>>344362524
The first game was only good in the first half, it shit the bed hard in the second half.
>>344361698
>Yahtzee
what a piece of shit
Many many things, but the fact that there were a bunch of THIS IS A MORAL CHOICE YOU GOTTA CHOOSE HERE situations like the baseball, the locket and where you choose to shoot that ticket guy, that felt like very hamfisted attempts at determining what ending you got, but the game couldn't even be assed to have more than one ending. Elizabeth was hot tho.
>>344361941
>This sums up all my gripes. It just doesn't feel like a Bioshock game.
>The Burial at Sea DLC was great, tho
>>344358574
>All civilians magically disappear instantly once the shooting starts
>Stealth is absolutely never an option under any circumstances
>All Golden Comstock statues are completely indestructible and Booker watches them dumbfounded every time they summon Songbird
>Except the very last statue that is easily destroyed by a 90-pound weakling to obtain the macguffin whistle
>Said 90-poind weakling manages to knock out Booker for hours with a single wrench blow when the writing demands it
>The leather and copper clad bird man is completely invulnerable because the writers said so
>>344352390
Nothing, it was a good singleplayer FPS.
That is all.
>>344362524
>Everything else felt like bad fan fiction that went places the original was too smart and self aware not to go.
>went places the original was too smart and self aware not to go.
I think this means the exact opposite of what you meant. This doesn't reflect too well on your views of what is smart and self aware.
>>344362408
>>344362598
the hivemind is real
>>344358858
But you're actually kinda weak in BioShock 2.
Not only are you a failed prototype Protector, but Splicers have evolved since the first game to be a lot stronger and hunt Big Daddies.
>>344361698
Thats nice and all but since that unfunny fedora wearing faggot isn't here, why don't you give us YOUR opinion on the game? You inbred fucking retard.
>>344362828
>Many many things, but the fact that there were a bunch of THIS IS A MORAL CHOICE YOU GOTTA CHOOSE HERE situations like the baseball, the locket and where you choose to shoot that ticket guy, that felt like very hamfisted attempts at determining what ending you got, but the game couldn't even be assed to have more than one ending.
No, it purposefully was meaningless in an attempt to be deconstructive but they handled it so incredibly obnoxiously and poorly that it is terrible.
Issues with the story have been discussed to death. My biggest problem was how they handled weapons and weapon upgrades. You can upgrade a particular weapon, then run out of ammo. You are forced to pick up another, which doesn't have any upgrades, and you are unable to go back to the weapon you upgraded until you find it again. That is such a monumentally stupid decision.
>>344362369
Salty. Especially considering the fact that someone like Levine was not in the position to make that call. His only crime there is to be valued more by those who call those shots than those Irrational Joes.
>>344362749
Really? I thought Daikatana failed because Romero was high on Doom cash and procrastinated and spent too much time dicking around, maybe doing blow off hooker's assholes or whatever instead of meeting deadlines.
>>344359762
Finktown is where the plot officially commits suicide.
The whole damn thing is a fucking retarded fetch quest that never makes a bit of sense and doesn't even try to
And Booker destroys an airship while on this retarded fetch quest to obtain a fucking airship
And Fink's master plan is to make the one man who is kill on sight in the entire city his chief of security because REASONS
And then the retarded shit with the Vox and Daisy fucking Fitzroy which is then later retconned in that fucking godawful DLC jesus fucking Levine why
>>344363167
They both had ways to waste their time.
At least 2K didn't commit the same mistake as Eidos and actually stopped Levine.
>>344362983
Says the guy literally posting someone elses opinion.
>>344362782
I'd agree with you if you'd have said during the third act, the second act was pretty strong.
>>344362946
>Oh shit, we can't just go Objectivism again
>I know, lets suddenly insert a communism element the original didn't allude to at all and bash the player over the head with it!
>>344363107
The guns weren't very much fun to use either.
One nice thing Bioshock 2 did was make the guns better.
>Pistol? Pistols are boring, RIVET GUN!
>Crossbow? HARPOON GUN?
>Wrench? DRILLS!
Bioshock 2 also limits the upgrades so you can't master them all, so you do need to specialize a bit.
>>344363291
Don't forget that a good percentage of players are going to shoot some unagressive poor people in the slums for standing infront of an upgrade bottle then get that guitar bit a minute later
>>344361725
rejects charityno clue
rejects religion
rejects communism
basically, you should own what you have earned with the sweat on your brow
ken levine is an arrogant hack who smoked weed at the office and thought his moronic highdeas were intelligent sci-fi and philosophy
when he disliked something, it was always scrapped. the game went through many cycles like this and nothing got done
the final game was put together under shotgun duress from the producer during a nightmare endless crunch
It implied that Columbia was a bad place to live.
It implied that the Vox Populi were the good guys.
>>344363898
No he meant socialism, not charity. America was pretty socialist in the 30s/40s when Rapture started.
>>344364026
What the fuck are you talking about? Columbia was pretty great until the Vox got guns, destroyed the city, and started a genocide.
>>344363450
>Says the guy literally posting someone elses opinion.
Not him, just thought it was funny.
>>344361879
Why is everyone in the beginning so apathetic? What's wrong with them?
Why does that building fall?
Why does Booker sounds like he's 60?
What happens if the player chooses not to steal from the politician like a scumbag? Would there of even been a choice?
Why does so much of this look like a cutscene and not gameplay?
Why are there still people in the bar having fun after a massive explosion?
What would've happened if the player rushed to where Elizabeth was before they had time to group to that spot?
What if Booker missed throwing that thing at the bridge, or at the rubble?
>>344363529
Is funny you say that because Infinite's plot is Bioshock 2.
>Experimenting on a girl to turn her into the perfect leader
>You are his father and have to save her
>The bad guy stole the girl from you
There is a lot in common, the only difference is that Bioshock 2 goes with it instead of turning into time travel bullshit fest halfway through and actually has other characters and moral desitions along the way.
Wait a minute that card!
ELIZABETH!
Instrumentality.
LOL TIME TRAVEL
>>344364026
>It implied that the Vox Populi were the good guys
I remember later in the game they started questioning the Vox's actions. They never lingered on it much though.
>>344359506
I like how people try to argue that killing in self defense is some how morally reprehensible. Because 98% of the time in a video game, you're character is killing people in self defense.
>>344364432
How would I know? That version of Infinite never came out, remember?
Just though it looked kind of cool, there are more trailers like that around, the game went through many changes before its release.
So was the Siphon just recycled assets from when Liz was probably the source of salts and vigors?
Because it doesn't do a fucking thing. It doesn't limit her powers a single bit because she opens a goddamn tear to Paris inside the thing.
And if you look at the power chart thing at the entrance of the Siphon it clearly shows that her power went down a little bit, then the siphon was installed after that, then her power started going up exponentially again. The Siphon literally does nothing at all in the build of the game we got.
And then there is this retarded "mini siphon" trap in New Emporia or whatever that place is with the fucking stupid quantum-ghost-necromancer-mom. What the fuck Levine.
And then a Siphon was destroyed five dimensions adjacent to the one we were in originally and this somehow makes Liz a time god. A siphon that Liz was never exposed to in that dimension. But when the Siphon in the starting universe is torn apart by Songbird Liz doesn't get the power boost for reasons.
And how does all this shittery with Siphons and Liz powerlevels work with "Future Liz" who was somehow mysteriously de-powered drastically. But is still somewhat in charge of everything. And she knows about the Songbird whistle and everything and didn't bother to destroy her universe's Siphon to regain her power and become a god.
Also since they went back to salts and vigors being based on the same slug shit as Bioshock 1 and 2, how the fuck did Fink make fucking massive amounts of tonics and vigors without a single drop of ADAM? He isn't even a fucking scientist and he completely outsmarted all of Rapture's best and brightest by having unlimited production with zero ADAM required. This fucking removes the entire reason that Big Daddies and Little Sisters were created in the first fucking place, which also completely fucking dismantles the story of everything else.
>>344352390
Nothing, nothing at all.
>>344365440
>waifufags
>>344365586
Reminder that there is STILL a waifu fag on /vg/ keeping Bioshit Infinite general going
>>344359718
What the fuck do you mean, how can opinions be wrong? Opinions are wrong all the time. What you were trying to ask is how it can be false to state a preference, which is NOT WHAT YOU DID.
There's a million things wrong with Infinite, but the fact that people nitpick over it isn't the problem. Those nitpicks mostly just stem from how the game just really wants to be serious and realistic in the content it wants to depict (or so the hype around it claims to say), which has a knock-on effect with people being forced to scrutinize every last moment. Every piece of media has moments of fallibility in them; nothing is perfect, after all. The problem is when we're actively made to pay attention to all of this for one reason or another.
Not to mention how this game came out so close to Last of Us, and how both these games seem to have the exact same plot.
Personally, my biggest gripes are three things: A world with ill-defined and often broken dimension-hopping rules, tainting the best parts of Bioshock 1 for the sake of fanservice, and how the entire game just seems to collapse around making Elizabeth seem super-special-awesome and important at the cost of everything.
>>344361350
That is incorrect.
>>344365649
http://youtu.be/I_u18_BKczg
>>344357120
Look up any videos regarding early B:I. Specifically ones with Ken commentary. He says a lot of these things.
>>344364026
>Columbia was bad
>Religious but whatever it's peace everywhere and just vigors and fucking cool shit in the sky
>Vox were good
>Just counter racists who slaughtered everyone who wasn't black
Real good way to get your message across, faggots
>>344352390
>played the game at launch, loved it
>it's not the best game I ever played but it was a fun ride and worth the adventure, I can nitpick here and there but the pros far outweigh the cons
>go on /v/
>even years later, I get to read the resentment of those who put astronomical expectations on the game and never got over it, whose testimonials sound like the game scarred them for life or something
Never gets old.
>>344365924
http://youtu.be/l_u18_BKczg
Meant this
>>344365846
>Those nitpicks mostly just stem from how the game just really wants to be serious and realistic in the content it wants to depict
How could you be so wrong
The narrative was shit, the mechanics were mediocre and the mechanics weren't designed to support the narrative
>>344365993
Sorry anon, but it was just a bad game.
>>344361350
Why? Sure, it's like Deus Ex: Invisible War in how the game's entire existence is just stupid, but the game itself is exactly as you get on the cover, with nothing really taken out and a small amount of improvements, like your standard expansion packs.
>>344356929
but where does rain come from
>>344366130
Okay, the nitpicks stem from how pretentious the game sounds from the hype.
>>344366134
How is this any different from the other Bioshocks then? Do throwing bees and hitting Bid Daddies with wrenches support anything Andrew Ryan says? Why didn't Andrew Ryan come back using a Vita Chamber?
Oh and another thing.
The fucking retarded random clothing system is a complete downgrade from the passive plasmid systems of Bioshock 1 and 2.
You cannot make any builds because you have no fucking clue what types of clothing you will obtain. And some of them are absolutely broken like the invulnerability ones.
We can plainly see clothing merchant stalls throughout the game but they are all conveniently broken. Every single one of them in Columbia.
>>344365993
I just think it's shit. Didn't have high expectations
>>344366429
At least there were enemies in Bioshock 1 that used tonics, as well as the fact that everyone in this game being a crazy mutant bullet sponge is because of all the science magic, whereas in Infinite they're just crazy for no reason besides "LOL Racism"
>>344366429
>Why didn't Andrew Ryan come back using a Vita Chamber?
Because he wanted to prove a point, the crazy git. He turned the vita-chamber in his office off.
>>344366429
The throwing bees part does since it from people being free to experment with whatever they want now.
>>344364264
Which is exactly what I said...
>>344366429
>Do throwing bees and hitting Bid Daddies with wrenches support anything Andrew Ryan says? Why didn't Andrew Ryan come back using a Vita Chamber?
Did you play the game?
Look, the game sucks. We can all agree on that. The gameplay is a downgrade from Bioshock 1, and the story is a complete mess. But if you can't think of specifics, or if you just want to make a list of nitpicks, then calm the fuck down, because all you're gonna do is make your point look worse.
>>344352390
I genuinely liked it, I didn't know about the beta until I finished the game and I can see why many people hate it, but why did the company close down was it Ken Levine wanting a new start, 2K fucking them over because of Infinite or what
>>344367342
We can't be for certain. But it does just look like the company just really didn't want there to be another Bioshock game that wasn't made by them.
>>344366913
Yeah, and its clear that despite the story being as good as it is, the gameplay and the emphasis on Adam and plasmids was the priority all along, and the narrative is meant to support the mechanics and not the other way around.
>>344365993
>Had no expectations for it since I didn't care about the series in general
>Got it for free when I bought a graphics card
>Played it in one sitting
>Enjoyed it a lot
>Came back the next day, playing it on 1999 mode, came to absolutely hate it because I was actually paying attention to shit and the game's aesthetic didn't wow me anymore
>Play Bioshock 2 a year later and realize just how far backward Infinite went
so uh what happens to all the other elizabeths when you start dimension hopping around wily nily
and how does being dead in one universe cause you to get brainfucked in a completely separate one
Uh, why do we have to make a scene whenever this game comes up?
>>344365952
Levine also said a lot of bullshit about first BS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPMiqDqkWn8
>>344368538
Because it's shit.
>>344360884
This!
Once I got Security Command 3 on my second playthrough, I actually managed to keep the same two companion bots through the entire last third of the game (well, almost). Loved my little robots.
When you're fully upgraded with Telekinesis 3 and have Eleanor, two super-bots, and an Alpha/Brute by your side, it's the best thing ever. I loved how the endgame godmode tied into the dynamic enemy and environment that the game did so well.
At the start of the game, the bots, big sisters, and brutes are your enemies, but you could make them fight each other. At the end, they're your personal army.
>>344365846
>and how the entire game just seems to collapse around making Elizabeth seem super-special-awesome and important at the cost of everything.
Elizabeth is an anime character confirmed
>>344371614
Well she does have some big and disproportionate eyes.
>>344372242
>waifubait
>big and disproportionate eyes
>is supposed to be super special
>disproportionately massive amounts of porn
yup definitely anime
Elizabeth seemed to be designed with the sole purpose of making players fall in love with her, rather than being designed with any sort of logic to her personality and situations.
>>344360102
He could've at least consulted a scientist first.
In that game quantum mechanics was basically magic.
