http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/07/07/nintendo-thought-it-would-sell-100-million-wii-u-units
Nintendo thought its inferior technology would be preferred over other consoles and the PC. But no one fell for the bait like they did the waggle concept.
>>344350945
>>344350945
Nice try Nintendo. But I learned my lesson 10 years ago when I bought the Wii. Never again.
Just a reminder the Wii U prioritizing a touchscreen over power is all Miyamoto's fault. He has to be stopped.
>>344350945
>"if it has games then who care if they look like shit"
Nintendo really needs to drop this belief.
>>344351998
Well, we'll see what kind of fucking gimmick they try to come up with for the NX. Something about mobile shit? Not buying it if the tech isn't up to standard though.
>>344352457
The problem was it didn't have games either.
Not a single first party title for the Wii U will be remembered ten years from now
>>344352737
Splatoon will
>>344352737
What about that one with the prepubescent squids?
It's the same thing that happened with Sony and the PS3. all the sales from their previous console went to their heads and they thought they could sell whatever shit they wanted at any price and people would fucking eat it up.
The difference being Sony fixed the PS3's problems. If they didn't it wouldn't have sold well at all. Nintendo didn't at all, so it sold like shit.
Should I sell my Wii U before it's too late?
>>344352737
Splatoon
The Wonderful 101
Bayonetta 2
Smash WiiU
And many, many more.
Meanwhile no Sony exclusive or first party game will be remembered five years from now. Not even bloodborne.
>>344353183
>Splatoon
Will die with the console's servers
>The Wonderful 101
Not first party
>Bayonetta 2
Not first party
>Smash WiiU
Within a decade we'll have a new Smash with an even larger roster leaving Sm4sh to rot with its shitty gameplay.
>>344353152
It already is too late. It was always too late.
>>344353374
>>The Wonderful 101
>Not first party
>"The best console is the most powerful one"
I want this stupid meme to die.
>>344353653
Nintendo didn't make it themselves and they don't own Platinum.
>>344352737
super mario maker is the only one i can think of.
i really want captain toad to be remembered more than it will be though
>>344353183
who the fuck was talking about sony you dumb piece of shit?
What are some good games for the wii and wiiu to have?, in some years I will be able to sell them for some profits, just like my snes games
>>344353726
Platinum also made Bayonetta
But Sega owns the rights, put the pieces together
>>344353665
The gaystation is more powerful and has better games. What else makes a console great? Nostalgia? Fucking nintendrone
>>344353772
Mario Maker is really pushing it since it's on the community to make it fun
LEt me put it another way. The Wii U has not managed to produce a true GOTY contender
For all the gimmicky bullshit the Wii had, Mario Galaxy still managed to pull in massive numbers of perfect scores and trophies while Twilight Princess and Metroid Prime 3 did well too.
>>344353868
It's obvious that I'm referring to traditional Nintendo IPs like Mario, Zelda, and Metroid
While Zelda could still be good the rest have all been duds.
>>344354042
Bayo 2 was objectively the GOTY of 2014
>>344353665
That's taking things too far, but you can also take it too far in the other direction. Making a weak ass console with a retarded gimmick that nobody wants to develop a game around leads to a dead console and no third-party support. Nintendo got lucky with the Wii because it had mass appeal at parties, with kids, and with soccer moms trying to lose weight. Kids don't give a shit about Nintendo nearly as much anymore, there's no Wii U fit, and the waggle was a much better party game gimmick than the gamepad. The Wii was a fluke, and it can't be repeated again as easily.
The best console is the one that's not a fucking chore to play and has enough appeal to generate interest in third-parties so it's a magnet for exclusives, or at least not blatantly ignored like the U, but it must also be strong enough to actually run said exclusives. The NX is dead in the water if it's not AT LEAST as strong as a baseline PS4/Neo, but it should be as strong as the Neo to be safe. Nintendo should also stop being retardedly secretive and just send out devkits so companies know what they're working with and can design games for it. Nintendo is not top dog anymore, they can't just win on their name alone and they have to actually fucking COMPETE. First-party games alone will not carry a console anymore.
>>344354271
Forgot to add the words first party, and, to be blunt, Bayonetta didn't push too many Wii Us off of shelves
>>344354328
>First-party games alone will not carry a console anymore
Breath of the Wild says hi
>charge full price for an underpowered gimmick machine
>DO ALMOST ZERO MARKETING
>Dont make core flagship games like metroid
>DLC locked behind figurines
Gee this piece of shit sure was going to be successful
Nintendo had the potential to be the best console but they fucked up hard, they have stuff like Mario, Zelda, Metroid, F-zero, Star Fox, but only the Zelda games are good.
>>344350945
They trusted the Wii brand too much
>>344354328
>First-party games alone will not carry a console anymore.
That's the thing though. Nintendo was able to sell 12 million consoles with basically just their games. Sony and MS's IPs aren't really strong enough to do that.
If Nintendo could just get some good third party support they'll be back on top
>>344354473
>>DLC locked behind figurines
These things weren't announced until 2 years later you retard
>>344354461
>Breath of the Wild will sell enough units to make the Wii U not the worst selling Nintendo console of all time
>BotW will sell enough NX units alone to fully sustain that console for the entirety of its life cycle
>The fact that this game will be split across two Nintendo consoles will not act against any of the previous two statements
Fuck off Miyamoto.
What would you rather have them do? Do the same thing MS and Sony are doing and make another black box with near indistinguishable libraries? Just be thankful that there's someone who actually tries to shake things up
>>344354616
It was implied when they said the controller will have nfc though that there would be interactive games using shit like amiibo
>>344353085
I dont know about fixing ps3's problems
the only thing sony managed to do was not shoot themselves in the foot
nintendo came up with a retarded name for a shitty gimmick console and for the first 2 years everyone thought it was just a tablet add on for the wii
xbone had that ALWAYS ONLINE, NO GAME SHARING shit that they did pull out of, but it was too late
>>344353183
Baby spray paint simulator Splatoon will be remembered but not Bloodborne. K.
>>344354473
>Sakurai put more work into Smash 3DS
>Sakamoto threw a hissy fit and wouldn;t make a Metroid for Wii U
>Miyamoto ruined Star Fox and Paper Mario in a single generation
>Devs became obsessed with Amiibo leading to Amiibo Festival instead of real Animal Crossing game
>Aonuma couldn;t handle a big project so it kept on getting delayed while they bused in 100 employees to help
Everyone kept letting Iwata down
>>344354473
>muh metroid
The Metroid series is just not profitable; that's why Nintendo pretty much abandoned it.
All the people whining and crying are just a very low but very small minority.
>>344354850
>Mario hasn't done shit new since the Wii
>No Zelda since the Wii, still nearly a year to wait
>Star Fox was dissapointing and sold like ass
>No Metroid since fuck knows when
>Animal Crossing is a handheld exclusive now
>Monster Hunter is handheld exclusive
I don't want them to be the same as the PS4/Xbone, I want them to share many games out of their libraries like CoD/Battlefield/Souls so that the console actually fucking sells well and Nintendo has the money and the confidence to develop high budget Zelda/Mario/Metroid/Whatever titles for it instead of making shitty low-budget spinoffs on handhelds or waiting 6 years for a new title.
>>344353183
>And many many more.
Name them.
Daily reminder that Amiibos are DLC done right:
>Actual physical goods
>Unlock new content for many games
>Double as figurines
>>344354850
Well, those black boxes at least had, you know, games. Games to play.
>>344352929
>>344353082
my dick will remember
>>344355179
>Souls
Why do you want a Zelda ripoff when you have the real thing?
>>344355473
Yes it will
>>344354248
Traditional or not. It's a Nintendo IP
If I recall correctly, it was originally going to have a bunch of Nintendo characters as the wonderfuls.
>>344355643
Did you not hear the word "prepubescent?"
>>344355402
Why didnt u buy them then? Bloodborne with 1 mil as opposed to COD, FIFA?
Gaystation owners keep harping on about games to play yet didnt buy their console's exclusive IPs
>>344355293
Daily reminder that Amiibos would be DLC done right if it wasn't for the fact that Nintendo doesn't supply enough and you end up being upcharged by >300% unless you wait in line for 8 hours at a fucking K-mart in the boonies.
>>344355641
Because people like Souls, and if people bought a Nintendo console to buy Souls then Nintendo might not take over half a decade to make a new Zelda and it might be at a higher budget. I just want fun video games anon, quit being antagonistic.
>>344355697
And at this point I'm forced to mention that the reviews were mediocre, its sales were pitiful. an its impact on the Wii U was negligible.
>>344355293
No, ~$15 new game modes/campaigns and standalone expansions are "DLC done right" not your overpriced McDonald's cosmetics.
Wolfenstein The New Order
Minerva's Den
Festival of Blood
>>344355797
>Gaystation owners keep harping on about games to play yet didnt buy their console's exclusive IPs
We did. The people browsing this board aren't people who eagerly await the new CoD and Fifa, go to Facebook or something if you want to preach to people about that.
>>344355809
Translation: I'm forced to move the goalposts now
>>344355809
It's reviews were mediocre cause casuals couldn't get into it and it sold poorly cause it wasn't marketed well.
>>344350945
>Nintendo thought its inferior technology would be preferred over other consoles and the PC.
It happened four times so
>>344355943
What goalpost moving? I'm pointing the lack of games as reason for the Wii U's failure and W101 doesn't remotely dent that argument regardless of how much you liked it
>>344355805
>$12 is 300%
>le 8 hour wait meme
Welcome to 2014 cornfed
>DLC done right
That's like saying "Tasty urine" or "Delicious fecal matter".
>>344355860
Hell, the souls games also show good examples of expansions worth 10-15 dollars
>>344355293
it's amazing how you managed to be so wrong in just one post
>>344356010
Doesn't change the fact that both those things did happen
>>344356031
>W101 is not a Nintendo game
>But it is, here are facts
>WELL IT SUCKED ANYWAY FUCK YOU
Look at Pokemon GO...
Nintendo are literal experts and catching the attention of casual gamers. That's their niche now and we have to accept it. As a diehard Nintendo fan I accepted it years ago, they just can't connect with core gamers, they've tried and tried but it's just not their thing anymore. I just hope the NX rides off what made the 3DS so successful, I can't see Nintendo moving home consoles any other way other than marketing it as a 3DS kind of attachment.
>>344354328
>no wii fit u
But there was. Just to clarify
>>344356050
kid please, fecal matter is a delicacy and heaven for some creatures of the Lord
Kill yourself
>>344356138
>A game has to be well reviewed and sell well to be considered a game
>>344356195
>moving the goalposts
You got wrecked kid, move along.
>>344356268
Well fuck me. I remember back when Wii Fit was new I couldn't go five minutes without hearing about it from some overweight woman in her late 50's, and I didn't even know this existed. I guess people realized that if you're going to excercise you may as well do it properly.
>>344356345
Well at least you don't deny it
>>344356195
My ultimate point was that Nintendo failed to provide the Wii U with the games it needed to succeed. I decided not to consider the W101 as not being a true first party game since it was made by Platinum so I wouldn't have to piss off the platinum drones by reminding them that nobody cared about it, but you forced me to anyway so congrats on that
>>344356331
This is about the Wii U's failure. Not W101's. It's just a symptom of the console's disease
Oh well, Nintendo will be completely mobile gaming in a few years anyway.
>>344354850
Make a gimmick that doesn't affect what kind of games it can have? Xbox had power that allowed games like live and reloaded to exist, Gamecube had lots of shit that made it a prime multiplayer machine. PS2 and DS were a cheapo piece of shit to make games for.
What does a touch screen do? It forces devs to put in more effort to make a game for a different system, and you can't really opt out or you're looking at a big black screen whenever you look down on a clumsy as fuck tv tray controller.
>>344356486
>I decided not to consider the W101 as not being a true first party game since it was made by Platinum so I wouldn't have to piss off the platinum drones by reminding them that nobody cared about it, but you forced me to anyway so congrats on that
Oh yeah I bet
>This is about the Wii U's failure. Not W101's. It's just a symptom of the console's disease
So do all consoles have the disease then?
>>344354925
PS3 pulled out a pretty good relaunch in 2009. Slim model, cheaper, no Spiderman font etc.
>>344356547
>We will actually live to see Nintendos fans defending mobile gaming
Truly worse than hell itself
>Drawing Mario and Luigi kissing
please do not do that
>>344356589
Sony wasn't as draconian as Nintendo
If the NX is as powerful as the PS4/Neo/Scorpio whatever then cool
If NoA drop their shit censoring and translations then cool.
If Nintendo actually revisits some of their greats like a new F-Zero, Metroid, Pilotwings, etc then nice.
If all Nintendo can do is release another shit gimmick with an underpowered console while telling fans, "Fuck u have another mario party 20!" or "Here have some new zelda oops it's ocarina of time and majora's mask bundled together for 3DS! Oops fuk u preeze undrastrand!!!!" or "Here is game we bring from Japan we butcher it for you because USA babies need protection from terrible stuff! PREEZE UNDRASTRAND"
Then they can fuck right off.
I'd buy one for 100-150€ but those fucking things are still 300€ here. They can go fuck themself.
>>344356697
I think my favorite part of this image is that half of those games are games people won't stop begging for PC ports of.
>>344356697
d-do you have a folder for these images anon?
>>344350945
imagine being this out of touch
>>344356589
>Sonyggers like this wouldn't exist without Nintendo
How did they create 2 terrible fanbases, just how
>>344356697
>So do all consoles have the disease then?
Just the ones selling like shit.
Sony and M$ don't need metascores the same way Nintendo does because they actually understand marketing. Mario and Zelda games have a reputation among normies for redefining the video game industry so when Mario 3D World came and went with no discernible impact and Zelda was delayed into oblivion it was the end for the Wii U.
>>344357086
>Sony and M$ don't need metascores
Stopped reading right there
>>344354861
We already knew what Skylanders was back then.
>>344357203
Metacritic doesn't mean jack shit to sales
>>344356976
Not him but
https://boards.fireden.net/_/search/image/XitmRfggCrqUeaGLg-6QSA/
Fanboys from both sides use the same image to shitpost,
What's new
>>344357203
Obviously because any further and you'd have to face an actual argument that you are obviously ill-equipped to rebuke
As someone who grew up on Nintendo I'd like to add an extra fuck you for cheering them on while they circle the drain.
>tfw WiiU finally set me free of company loyalty idiocy
That it took so long is embarrassing, but better late than never. The death of FE, Pikmin 3 being mediocre after being strung along for 9 years and taunted with that NPC bullshit, Amiibos, and Treehouse in general pushed me over the edge. I am a free man now.
>>344356018
You mean once?
>>344357434
>Sony and MS don't need metascores
>Nintendo needs it
>Now sales
Can you make up your fucking mind already
>>344357482
>As someone who grew up on Nintendo
t. Falseflagger
>>344355179
Having those titles on a Nintendo system isn't enough. The people who buy CoD/Battlefield/Madden/GTA don't consider Nintendo as an option, and Nintendo's audience don't buy those games typically (as seen with the GameCube). So the games will likely do poorly on a Nintendo platform and will discourage 3rd parties even more. I think that Nintendo needs to find other audiences to cater to instead of trying to chase the "gamer" crowd. And no, that doesn't mean grandmas or middle aged soccer moms, I mean people who also enjoy video games
>>344356804
They already are, look at the Pokemon GO thread. Mobile gaming is being embraced despite killing the 3DS's software lineup, sales projections, and soon its existence.
>>344357607
>Have always had whatever the current gen Nintendo and Sony consoles are because they're the only ones that actually try
>Have had a Wii U from the beginning
>All I have for it is Smash, Mario Kart, and Super Mario 3D Land
>The only other game anyone ever talks about is a garbage Musou reskin
Why does everyone always bring up Sony?
>>344357672
Sony and Microsoft don't need Metascores because they know how to market games regardless
Nintendo can't market for shit so the only thing that'll sell their games are perfect scores and wards. Not hard to grasp
>t. Falseflagger
Your underaged ass wishes you got the quality from Nintendo games in your childhood that I did.
>>344356589
Cheaper and easier to develop for Sony. Really sad that Nintendo hasn't caught on to this because they could easily be attracting more third parties if they did.
>>344357786
>All I have for it is Smash, Mario Kart, and Super Mario 3D Land
>The only other game anyone ever talks about is a garbage Musou reskin
How is it like being stuck in September 2014?
>>344357786
I was never really a sony fan, I had a PS1, but after Crash and Spyro died with the console I gave no fucks about Sony. I had the token Xbox/360 because Halo, though. Thank god 343 killed it when it was still on 360 or I probably would have been suckered into buying an XBone, too.
What happened, did we get old and jaded, did blue ocean appeasement take over, or a combination of both?
>>344358090
It's like being a Wii U owner in 2016
>>344358161
Did you get a PS3/PS4?
>>344358208
So its fine?
>>344358090
The WiiU has had nothing, though. If you're not a fan of action games, platinum offers you nothing, and the only other recent game of any value is... Splatoon? Which isn't exactly a core nintendo game.
>>344357905
>Nintendo can't market for shit so the only thing that'll sell their games are perfect scores and wards. Not hard to grasp
Literally there's like one instance where Nintendo has used Metacritic to market
>Nintendo can't market for shit so the only thing that'll sell their games are perfect scores and wards
Are you implying only Nintendo does this? Because everyone fucking does this
>>344358263
No. Like I said, the only sony games I cared about were Crash and Spyro, and those didn't even make it to PS2. I do have a Vita, though, I enjoy Vanillaware games.
>>344358353
>Literally there's like one instance where Nintendo has used Metacritic to market
Even if Nintendo doesn't use it directly there's still word of mouth
>Are you implying only Nintendo does this? Because everyone fucking does this
But other companies can still market games even without record breaking scores. Nintendo has no clue how to
>>344356949
Which ones?
>>344358436
>he doesnt like ratchet
>>344358465
>Even if Nintendo doesn't use it directly there's still word of mouth
Then that's not them marketing.
But other companies can still market games even without record breaking scores
They can do it just as well as Nintendo can.
AKA not very good
>>344358323
So you are complain about a lack of Mario X's and Zelda being late?
>>344358480
>Sword Art Online
>Digimon
>Nights of Azure
>DOAX3
>EDF
>Estival Versus
>Megadimension is on PC and that somehow magically makes it good now
>>344357809
Because the ps4 its popular and because of that everyone blames sony for how other systems are failing, except handhelds that's another story
>mfw nintendo deleted from their webpage their interview about how they would "never do dlc"
>it took less then 3 years for this to change
>>344350945
Please, if people cared about technology they wouldn't have bought the Wii (or consoles in general).
It didn't sell because no one knew that it was a new console, and now that they do Nintendo is supporting it less because of their prior fuckup.
>>344358601
>ratchet games after cit
>mattering
hahahaha
>>344358601
I don't. It feels like half a Crash game, half some other game. I'd rather have 100% Crash or no crash at all. We know which one I got. Fuck modern Naughty Dog, fuck Sony, fuck whoever sold off the rights, fuck all the redesigns and ports and bullshit.
>>344358741
Nah, I'm complaining about the lack of everything. There's nothing of recent note on the WiiU worth playing. The system has practically been in limbo since Splatoon.
>>344359039
>sold off the rights
wut?
Neither of them sold off the rights. Universal owned both franchises from the start.
>>344358759
I've seen people who want DOAX3 on PC. At this point we all know Estival Versus is coming anyway so I'd hardly count that. Pretty sure Megadimension isn't out on PC yet and there have been plenty of threads talking about how much of an improvement it is.
Haven't heard much begging for the rest at all, except maybe EDF.
...Not that wanting games on PC is bad.
>>344359039
>Nah, I'm complaining about the lack of everything.
Then why:
> though. If you're not a fan of action games, platinum offers you nothing, and the only other recent game of any value is... Splatoon? Which isn't exactly a core nintendo game.
>Which isn't exactly a core nintendo game.
You shouldn't be giving a shit about if games are a core franchise or not when you want more games.
>>344357709
To be completely fair we don;t know what the endgame for a 3rd party friendly Nintendo is because they haven't had one on a console since the SNES.
I think they need to swallow their pride a bit and realize they needed to embrace 3rd party collaborations.
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/stock/meeting/110629qa/04.html
> As a matter of fact, at the times the Nintendo DS and the Wii were released, we could not make the software publishers appreciate our systems highly and count on them.
>In such a situation, it is a fact that there were few developers outside of the company who were thinking "Let's bet our business on it." Both the Nintendo DS and the Wii were in such situations at the beginning, and the spread of the hardware proceeded mainly because of Nintendo software. After the hardware spread, in the case of the Nintendo DS, the software publishers started to move and said, "The Nintendo DS is selling well," and "Let's us join this stream," which lead to several hits in the relatively early stages of the Nintendo DS. This made the software publishers believe that they could do business on the Nintendo DS, and good teams from each company started to work on Nintendo DS software. Because of this, many titles from third-party software publishers could be seen for Nintendo DS software.
tldr they basically thought they could hook people with just the gimmick when it was their 1st party titles and collaborations which made people support the Wii/DS so well. Both of which Nintendo fucked up big time.
>>344358759
EDF and DOAX3 are the only ones of those that people actually ask for a PC port of.
>inb4 some random petition that a 30 sandniggers have signedNep has always been shovelware. The waifufags just shitpost louder than anybody else.
>>344358161
You have a pretty unique taste in vidiya anon, you like PS1 platformers, you also like Xbox's halo yet you own one of the most niche systems and enjoy an even nicher series of vanillaware side scroller beat em ups on the Vita.
Strange.
Also Jak and Ratchet are great Playstation-tier action platformers, I really can't believe you didn't play the PS2
>>344359652
>that
>unique taste
>>344359652
The only "unique" about his taste as discribed there is that he owns a vita. Everything else is textbook "good"-/v/-taste.
>>344359870
>>344360293
How about I throw in roguelikes (actual roguelikes) and grand strategy (albeit babby-tier) into that mix, am I a special snowflake yet? I've logged hundreds of hours in stone soup and dynahack, and a couple hundred more in EU and Vicky.
>>344359652
I like to play many genres, I can't understand how people limit themselves to certain types of games and won't even invest effort in learning something new and challenging. It's better to try something new than to pretend it doesn't exist, or something like that.
>>344360293
Does liking Suikoden give me unique taste?
>>344353082
Is funny how fanart looks better than in-game cabbage patch models. I'd actually fap to thisbut I won't
>>344359870
>>344360293
It's unique because how unlikely it is for someone who you would typically think of as an Xbox or even Halo fan to like Vanillaware games or to even own a vita
>>344360721
You just like a good JRPG, so I doubt it. you have to have 30,000 hours in the Whiteness of the Appalachian Nights to be unique on /v/.
>>344350945
Reminder the gamepad was the best idea any video game dev has ever come up with and no one has yet surpassed
>>344361081
you misspelled understood.
>>344360936
>not being an idort in 2016
>>344353374
>>Splatoon
>Will die with the console's servers
It's going to have a sequel, at the very least, for every home Nintendo console in the future.
>>344353183
>Its a "I hate Sony because I'm a nintendrone and xcuck" episode
I never get tired of saying that Nintendo is doomed unless they change their business model. I love Nintendo games, but lame excuses like "people don't understand Wii U" is the worst kind of excuse, if people dont get what you're trying to offer to them then it's your fault, fucking niggers.
>>344350945
>tfw nintendo will never go third party except for their handhelds
They could make so much money, and their games would look amazing on pc, and way better on other consoles.
>>344356213
But the last time Nintendo did an all casual event was back in 2008, and we all know how that turned out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw_Bd-13YCk
>>344360641
Those two posts were not an attack on your taste, but an dig at the poster that said you were unique for liking that. Roguelikes and map painting sims are more likely to" make you unique" than fucking liking Halo and Crash.
Hell I would be unique just for liking Halo 1 and owning a PSTV going by those standards.
>>344360936
SHEIT, my super weeb friend that consumes neptunia-tier shit is unique then since he also likes Halo and owns a vita.
>>344361147
what
>>344361557
>you'll never buy old nintendo games at steam summer sale with 90% off and full control support
>>344361403
>"people don't understand Wii U"
Litterally people thinking it was a Wii expansion/Revision/addon/new remote.
>>344351998
Not to mention even the new president of Nintendo thought the Wii U was going to be a bust in the beginning. Really 100 million units? Did they seriously think kids were gonna buy the Wii U when they failed to market the product properly?
Almost every little kid and casual thought the Wii U was an accessory for the Wii, not a complete new console
>>344361403
If people don't understand Wii U, that would include third-party publishers, which means less games. So yes, it is Nintendo's fault their vision is not comprehensible.
>>344355761
Except they're actually the same age as most of the anime sluts you fap to. 14 ain't bad, most freshmen are that age.
>>344361642
>Roguelikes and map painting sims are more likely to" make you unique" than fucking liking Halo and Crash.
Fair enough. /v/ and I tend to not get along when it comes to Halo, though, I personally like Halo Reach the best, which /v/ hates, because of the mapbuilding sim that forge world is.
>>344362081
/v/ hates Reach because of Forge World? This is news to me.
>>344361860
Yeah, but people are stupid and Nintendo should be aware of it. Your product must be made so it can be explained almost entirely by itself.
>>344361921
The name was awful, they failed to capitalize on the then-surging tablet market, which is what the gamepad was supposed to capture or something, and refused to spend a dime on marketing to clear that up. Wii 2 would have been a better name. Not to mention DSi and DSiXL had come out earlier, which furthered the confusion with WiiU.
>>344361081
>the gamepad was the best idea any video game dev has ever come up with and no one has yet understood
is what you meant to type.
>>344362345
Sorry, I misworded that. I think Reach is a fantastic game, and Forge World is why Reach is arguably the best Halo game. /v/ doesn't care about Forge World and hates Reach for butchering the lore, messing up the gameplay, as well as paper vehicles.
>>344362362
Nintendo can't into marketing though
>>344362575
I don't hate it but I certainly didn't care for the campaign.
>>344362421
why would I mean to type that
go away fucking spellcheck, I know what I'm saying
>>344362802
Maybe it's groupthink mentality, I was in a Halo thread a few days ago and there was nothing but vitriol for Reach. I think a combination of the campaign, lore rape, and then 343 taking over and completely and utterly ruining online multiplayer is why there's neutrality or animosity towards Reach on /v/. Forge and local MP never come up in the discussion.
>>344363056
Forge and MP are the good things, no need to bring them up if I'm shitting on it.
>>344363254
I can never talk about the good things about Reach, it's always how it ruined things or how it was the last true halo or how it was the transition into the abomination that was nuHalo.
One thing I liked about Forge was that elites and spartans had different heights, so it was possible to make flooded areas where spartans would instantly die but elites would be fine, albeit with a blue screen of water, and holes too small for elites to crouch through so spartans could escape through those small passages. Little details like that are always nice.
>>344354519
knack sold more than mario 3d world tho :^]
