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Extreme Cluedo thread.
Would you kill your entire family for a substantial amount of money, /v/?
Also, just so you know
5>3>6>2>1>8>7>4
>>344320932
I wouldn't kill my family. I would definitely kill my master and his family for the money though.
>>344320932
>>344321616
>1 IP
Fuck off Yasu go talk to yourself in the bottom of the sea
>>344321616
My theory is still that Gohda did it.
He was about to bring in a nice special brand of coffee to the parents who were discussing the epitaph. He'd just missed them, but saw them outside through the window. Curious, he followed them.
Once inside, he kept his distance as things were getting quite heated. He overheard Beatrice about the bank card, the gold and the time bomb.
He had his plan.
He stumbled in and spilled the coffee all over the place, startling the parents. He made an act of stumbling all the way to the weapons on the table and grabbed a Winchester and cold-heartedly shot every single one of the parents before they could even arm themselves.
Scene plays out much like the Kyrie/Rudolf scenario where he calls everyone else in to the chapel and shoots them.
Grabs the bank card and a couple of ingots and sets the bomb, ready for a lifetime of satisfaction.
>2 hours
oh shit
>>344320932
Largely agree with that list except that 4 and 7 should be reversed. 7 was the most boring shit I ever had the incentive to trudge through
Erika best girl
>>344323837
Nah mate
>>344323837
This is truth.
>>344324254
You are a fool. Loli Takano is a great character but not even close to the perfection of Erika.
>>344324305
This man gets it.
>>344323837
>>344324305
She's perfect. Good looks, and a personality that makes you either want to completely crush her and dominate her, or want to be completely crushed and dominated by.
Stick me and Erika in a room with a roll of duct tape and I'm not even sure what I want the outcome to be, but I will know I'll enjoy it regardless.
What is your opinion on the next When They Cry?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeUGLAzdRLI
>>344325767
Completely uninterested until Ryu-chan himself calls it the next WTC. You can stick Bern's head on a sprite and call it fanservice but unless this is another brilliant mystery series with Question and Answer Arcs I don't give a fuck. Rose Guns Days was shit. Higanbana was shit. Give me more WTC.
>>344326139
this
Until Ryuchan writes another series with brutal murders done by a loony, I'm not that interested.
>>344323837
Erika is shit. I looked at the definition of shit in the dictionary and it was just pictures of her.
>>344326139
>>344326572
It's what I love about Higurashi and Umineko. I just wish he would stop publishing these shitty side-stories and focus on another 8-part series which will have 4chan's panties wet for years like Higurashi and especially Umineko.
Remember Umineko threads back when they were being released? Remember waiting for The Witch Hunt to translate the new EPs? Discussing theories? I miss those times and I wish Ryu-chan would focus more on another unique work like that. God knows he's got the talent.He can even draw hands properly now, sort of
>>344326927
I'm sure you must have some dodgy copy. This dictionary right here has a picture of your ugly face under the word "shit".
>>344320932
>Episode 4
>that low
Explain yourself
Guys it's out on steam
>>344320932
>8 is anywhere but last place
No
>>344327739
Oh yeah.
Now time to wait till someone adds the good sprites to it.
>>344327587
Way too much Ange. Positively bored me to death reading that. Only good parts were Krauss' fight and the ending.
>>344327739
>>344328159
No thanks.
>shitty sprites
>shitty backgrounds
>no voice acting
>no CGs
I'll stick to Umitweak thanks.
>>344328124
8 had the great riddles bit where you collected coins. It also showed the Ushiromiya family as happy for once which was great to read after 7 episodes of drama.
7 is the most boring piece of shit that dragged on too long and only the tea party made up for it.
4 is shit 70% through. I agree with OP, except that I prefer 1 over 2.
>Ōgon Musōkyoku CROSS will never get a Steam release with Steam matchmaking
>>344329240
>Die za desu
>Sentense tsu desu
>Gulaito ekuwaraisa iz sa desu!
HOL UP
I'm going into this for the first time, how long are each episode?
>>344330275
SO YOU BE SAYIN
>>344330571
*smacks lips profusely*
WE WUZ SOLDIERS AND SHIET?
>>344330549
Very long. 20 hours more or less
>>344330549
Really depends, but when comparing it to a book, count on about 400-600 pages per episode. The entirety of Umineko is about three/four times the length of The Lord of the Rings.
All worth it though. Umineko is the best example of something that starts great but becomes absolutely awesome as it goes on. You've got a ride ahead of you anon, one I wish I could take for the first time again.
>>344330549
I would guess about 10 hours per episode
>>344327027
>he can even draw hands properly now, sort of
when he even tries to draw them
>>344322262
It was Battler, it is extremely obvious after ep8
>>344326139
>>344326572
>>344327027
I dunno, it kinda looks like another WTC, but that could just be him reusing a lot of imagery from Umineko. I see the chessboard, a character falling off of a skyscraper, bloody photos, etc. The Alice in Wonderland imagery is kinda neat I guess.
>releasing only the question arcs
>answer arcs coming MONTHS later
DAMMIT MANGA GAMER YOU HAD ONE JOB
>>344331479
Apparently there are 3 different stories going on, hence difference artstyles. Post war setting is obviously Ryukishi, then there's the school setting and another one I can't figure out, and if we go by the trailer they're all connected somehow?
dunno, sounds ridiculous, especially with the Alice in Wonderland theme.
>Chiru anime never
How sad. It had potential.
>>344323837
>Erika will never knock you unconscious and tie you to the bedWITH DUCT TAPE
Clearly this is the worst dimension.
>>344332536
I have acquired a duct-tape rape fetish because of Erika. Me being the rapee of course.
>>344332445
I enjoyed the anime for what it was. It got me into the series and I respect it for that.
But DEEN, or any other studio for that matter, could never do justice to Chiru. It's such a magnificent clusterfuck that you could not possibly condence into a 2 cour anime.
Now with a great budget and 4-6 cours it could be done. But they'd have to re-do the original anime as well.
Who knows, if the Steam version sells well we might just get another anime. Umineko still seems very popular in Japan, they love their murder mysteries.
>>344333373
True that, but to be honest Chiru would be much better than the first series in anime format. All those metaworld fights would have been great.
And let's not forget Erika's VA...
>>344333373
I thought that japs don't like umineko.
>>344333373
>steam sales as a metric for anime
Nah. Steam sales don't represent blu-ray sales, which are the name of the game. At the very most it represents some western interest, but nothing about a 'trigger' for a new 6 cour animu
>>344333791
Wait they don't like it? I guess this explains why there isn't 10 million offshoot and one off arcs like Higurashi
>>344333697
The fights would be great, yes. Which is why I want this to happen, but also to do the original work justice. DEEN's version was really bad in retrospect. Like I said, it got me into Umineko so I do like it, but it just wasn't that good. I'd like to see another studio take on the project. Maybe with Ryu-chan serving as advisor.
>>344333791
What on earth gave you that idea? I don't like to speak for a whole culture but Japan really loves mysteries. Most of their best-selling books and most-viewed dramas are murder mysteries. And Umineko has shitloads of merchandise. What gave you the idea that the Japanese don't like Umineko?
>>344333987
>steam sales as a metric for anime
That was more hope than actual belief. I just want Ryu-chan to realise there is a market out there in the West for WTC. Whether that's a new WTC series or an anime is beside the point. We will never ever see a Chiru anime, I firmly believe that, but I would still like to live in hope.
>>344334702
We all live in hope that Japan actually begins to export things that Westerns want.
One day it will come true.
Always had this anime on my backlog didn't know there were games too. Whats the anime like? Might give that a try while I work today
>>344334380
With the amount of details that Umineko has, not only would they have to redo the first series too but it would need to have much more than 26 episodes.
Higurashi adaptation kind of worked with 26 because it has a lot of parody moments that were irrelevant and could be cut. This is not so true in Umineko.
>>344334876
The anime only covers half of the entire story so I wouldn't recommend it.
The manga covers the whole thing and reveals a bit more information than the visual novel, but lacks the great soundtrack.
If anyone wants to try https://umineko-project.org/en/
I can provide the code since i'm buster who owns everything.
Just give me a couple of minutes.
>>344334380
Probably their reaction the anime, which is understandable. Doesn't mean they hate the source material though.
It's pretty much the same situation Danganronpa is in. The anime was so poorly received that they just gave up bothering with the 2nd game and just went on to anime-only specials.
>>344335056
True. Umineko Core would need as much as 8 episodes per EP. And Chiru would need a full cour per EP. It'll never happen though, sadly.
>Umineko When They Cry (Question Arc)
>Question Arc
>implying
>>344331479
>>344325767
It's not a new WTC, for fucks sake. Ryukishi reuses shit all the time, there are literally zero 07th Expansion novels that he didn't reuse shit just because he likes it. He just enjoys this kind of fuckery, perhaps that's just his way of rewarding his old fans.
>>344336358
This. Remember the shit storm when EP4 had that Okonogi who looked like the henchman from Higurashi? Endless threads on how the two series were connected.
They are, of course, but not in that way.
Threadly reminder that episode 8 is the best episode.
Also, don't get the hideous Steam version. Download it yourself and use either the original or PS3 sprites with voices. Do not support the trash they put on Steam.
>>344335341
Hey anon, care to share some of your resources? I lost my extraction tool a long time ago and I can't get some missing resources from Majo Suiri no Rondo.
The new Umineko port is a mess, so I'm trying to fix it at least a bit.
Also go ahead and post the code, I'm interested.
I'm gonna hop out of this thread to avoid spoilers, but why the hell is this game's exposition so long? I tried playing it a few months ago after I was told it was a murder mystery sort of game, but it turned out to be a vn. I don't normally really have a problem with vns but this one is long as hell. It seems like I spent 5 hours reading the damn thing yet no one had died yet. I'll probably get back into it now that I have a shitty tablet pc so I can be comfy and play it but damn, it was boring as hell.
>>344337490
First day is always slow and boring. After a couple of chapters you will start liking (and understanding) them.
>>344337490
Yeah, the time it takes for the novel to get to the crushed corpses in the gardening shed takes awhile, the series can get quite heavy in exposition sometimes.
Umineko is stupid as shit, no wonder it has a low EGS score, full of plot holes and inconsistencies, it's plain non sense and it killed R07's career.
>>344337490
First episode takes a long time to set up the characters and scenario so it can't be a bit of a slog in the beginning. Fortunately, the other episodes are a lot better about getting to the point about the murders.
>>344337341
>Majo Suiri no Rondo
From the pc version or ps3?
Also035646750436634546568555050
>>344337942
PS3, actually. Thanks for the code, btw.
Lucia's route was shit
Hibangana was shit
Rose Gun days was shit
Iwaihime was shit
Ryukishi's part of Trianthology will be ____
>Rose Gun days was shit
I'll fit u fagit
Especially for the last season
>>344320932
Oh shit on Umineko thread on /v/.
AHA! TIME FOR PARENTINGRosa best mom
>>344340684
Still one of the most hype VN moments ever.even though it wasn't real
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAKkw71ff3U
>>344341120
It's unfair how good the soundtrack is.
How did they manage that?
>>344341440
Japanese doujins artits. So pure passion.
Anyone know if there are badges/backgrounds with the steam release? I'd dump money into cards if there are.Anime remake when
>>344341795
There are cards and backgrounds. Check the storepage
>>344342146
>>344341795
http://www.steamcardexchange.net/index.php?gamepage-appid-406550
>>344342543
Am I cute?
uguuuuuuu
>>344342874
Fuck these sprites
>>344343045
Dem bazookas though.
>>344320932
nothing is worse than episode 7
>>344343334
But episode 7 is thesecondbest episode!
>>344343045
you can switch to the original sprites or wait and mod in the ps3 sprites and voice patch
https://github.com/07th-mod
>>344336978
>implying
>>344343045
I know. I'm pissed they soiled the steam release with such shit, I don't even like the originals but I'd much rather have them than this.
>>344345268
You can switch between Pachinko and original
>>344345512
>original
Do you think this is a fucking game, motherfucker
>>344346186
original>ps3>pachinko
>Want to buy Umineko on Steam to support the creators
>It's 17 bong dollars
I want to admit something /v/. I have just finished ep.3 and I don't remember having as much fun with any video game in the past 2 years at least.
Also, can I confirm something about a theory I have without too much spoilers?Beato said in red that there are 18 people on this RokkenjimaShe never said that first six people in ep.3 died on the night of the first twilight, right?
>>344341440
fuck listening to this shit gives me chills after so long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0yYXgnSwmE
>>344327027
>Those mitten-hands holding guns in Umineko
every ding dong time
>>344346821
>Beato said in red that there are 18 people on this Rokkenjima
No more than 18.
>She never said that first six people in ep.3 died on the night of the first twilight, right?
I think she did.
I'd avoid threads until you've read through ep5.
>>344347464
My idea is that, if the red does not confirm that all 6 victims on ep.3 fist twilight died on the same nightthen it was possible to mask Kinzo's true time of death by burning his corpse and in fact he could have died ages ago, that fact concealed by Krauss and Co. This way there can be a "19th" person on the island without contradicting the red truth. I was so mad when Battler folded toEva'sattack later in the episode precisely because I thought that was a plausible and rather inviting explanation.
I would avoid threads but I have a big urge to discuss it as well. I'd try to be careful.
>>344347864
I think I remember everyone exceptNatsuhi, Krauss and Georgewas confirmed dead with red beforeEva announced the rest.
But maybe it was onlyShannonthat was confirmed dead at the start.
>>344347864
Nevermind, she did not in fact say that they died during the first twilight.
I'll say that you're sort of on the right track.
>>344348448
Beato confirmed all victims of the first twilight to be dead, she just didn't say "when" did they die.
Also, I am super interested if Battler's guess about the first twilight's solution in ep.3 is correct - maybe for once he won't be a useless scrub?
>>344348521
That makes me feel good anon, thank you. I will just scan for pictures and avoid spoilers, I enjoy the game too much to be spoiled. So far I have quite a few theory and the only thing I have to worldly clue about it the ep.1 second twilight and most of the later ep.2 murders.
God I love Umineko. I can't imagine how was it to wait and speculate for it when it was released/translated.
What version of the game do I get?
Heard this was a cool mystery VN but there's a lot of weird info flying around to get started
>>344329240
that game has such an awesome theme song
https://youtu.be/GFGQQQPxZ6k?list=PL54DB870D10722767
>>344349021
Doesn't matter, really. With voices, without. Original art, updated art. Any is fine. Don't know about the steam version.
>>344349021
It can be confusing.
Once you get a copy of the first four episodes which all come together, go to umitweak if you want the ps3 voices and sprites. I highly recommend experiencing it with the voices.
This cannot be done with the Steam release currently.
>>344349021
All the different version are mostly mods to the original version. The Steam version doesn't have mods yet, but it's probably only a matter of time.
The version released on Steam today is an updated translation of the old fan translation. The old fan translation was super literal because the series was still ongoing at the time and they didn't want to miss important clues that may have been hidden in the text, with the new translation improving that and trying to make it flow more naturally.
>>344349021
PS3 ported to PC, definitely. Look for it. Password already posted in this thread as well for the files.
So when will the answer arc release exactly?
>>344320932
Umineko is great until the answer arcs arrive, it becomes literal garbage after that
>>344351438
I didn't like the outcome =/= literal garbage
>>344351053
Don't know, but you can already get it and all the PS3 assets right now.
>>344350219
Have you read the new translation yet?
What does it change exactly? I don't see the point of not being very literal given the context, even if it doesn't matter in the end.
>>344351438
Same could be said for Higurashi.Fucking space parasites.
>>344351673
I'm the first one to cry in outrage against spoonfeeding, but... link?
>>344351903
Not yet, but it's mentioned here:
https://forum.rokkenjima.org/t/an-announcement-by-the-witch-hunts-usagitenpura-regarding-uminekos-upcoming-steam-release/380
"True, the puzzles as a whole can be answered with our first translation, but in Ryuukishi's own words, there are "treasure chests" hidden throughout the series for people paying attention. Many of these treasure chests end up being at least as important as the main story, and we ended up crushing several of them. A few were outright translation errors, though most probably couldn't have been translated without guessing an answer first."
"To rectify this, the Witch Hunt has put in more hours this past year than any previous one in the history of our team. Building this Steam version involved editing more than 75% of the lines in the original translation (almost 90% in EP1) and well over 3,000 images for HD support. And that's even before the Mangagamer pass that included drastic improvements to every chapter. Nearly all of the text changes were to bring our paranoid, hyper-literal translation more in line with what we had in Rose Guns Days, getting the scenes to actually read well instead of worrying about every conceivable loophole that might be hiding a clue we didn't know about. Unfortunately, if nearly every line doesn't sound quite right, the chances of you noticing something that's supposed to sound strange are pretty darn small.
Also, we've had some practice since then."
>>344351903
Only thing I know is that Lambda now cusses like a sailor apparently.
>>344351632
>I didn't like the outcome =/= literal garbage
Except it's poorly written and paced. There's a difference sperglord.
What's the name of the Battler's "chase" track - the one that usually plays in ep.1-4 when he beats Beato in an argumentor at least pathetically tries to.
>>344352985
I think you're thinking of Dread of the Grave
>>344353035
Yep, that's the one. Thanks a lot.
It always gets my hype as fuck.
>>344320932
>there will never be a true umineko thread, because its fucking over
why live
>>344353568
I feel bad for you who weren't here 8 years ago to watch this series unfold and discuss theories. It was great.
>>344351956
welp couldnt stop myself mousing over that one in time
guess it'll clear up a few gigs
Is Higurashi at least remotely as good as Umineko? Which sprites should I use?
>>344353982
I liked it more in some ways, I like the ending a lot more, too.
>>344353982
yes but for different reasons
any sprites will do, my favorite are the ps2 sprites
>>344352170
Anyone know if that current PS3 project (thats at like EP3 right now) uses a different translation?
>>344352126
Google umitweak for the PS3 assets.
I think the game can be found on the usual site to download.
Otherwise, it seems like mangagamer is the only place I can find a legal copy, the old dl-site disappeared.
>>344355323
Wait the mangagamer version is incompatible with the umitweak stuff so forget that.
>>344349021
Check what the anon here >>344335341 and here >>344337942 posted. It's a full port of the PS3 release, which includes updated artwork and voice acting, to PC. So far it's been completed up to the third episode, with the fourth coming pretty soon now.
However, if it's possible for you, do consider purchasing the original game through Steam or any other means in order to support 07th Expansion.
>>344355028
Uses a tweaked version of the original Witch Hunt patch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfJueMZJbIc
Best gril
I just finished Episode 4 and I'm pretty sure that Gohda's the culprit and a magical chef.
>>344358536
I agree with this anon
>>344358536
makes sense to me
Reminder magic doesn't exist and only children believe in such fantasies.
>>344358536
