>it's Hanzo uses his ult and kills half of our team episode
Nerf this shit. Now.
Wow. It'd be a shame if you just stepped 6 feet to the left and avoided the whole thing.
>>344314903
Just get out of the way.
>>344314903
>It's a Mercy fly from the spawn and get killed almost immediatly, but pressed Q before she was alive so you have to fight three fuckers at full health again.
>>344315013
Fuck you faggot. That's probably deadliest ult in the entire game.
>>344315013
The point is that I shouldn't have to... It's a stupid ult that does way too much damage. Just nerf it and let people get back to actually fighting each other instead of playing DODGE OR DIE THE DRAGON.
>>344314903
>portal right in front of the payload
>>344315205
>I shouldn't have to
What, does it suck that you have to pay attention?
>>344315205
>The point is that I shouldn't have to...
Yes you should. That's the whole fucking point
>>344315160
That'll be Reaper. Hanzo's ult can be dodged relatively easily, as it's announced a few seconds prior with a line. Sure if you have no idea where he might be it's troublesome, but usually it's possible to make an educated guess based on where the objective compared to you. Meanwhile Reaper is practically instant and if you're caught offguard can easily wipe off a team.
I'm getting sick of all these OW threads. Please put the title in the subject field next time, thanks.
>>344315013
>hanzo fires it on other side of a wall
>you have .2 seconds to move or die instantly
>>344315320
It's a stupid fucking ult.
>>344315441
Okay. Let's give everyone Hanzo's ult. See how good the game is after that. No, wait. It would be fucking awful.
>all you'd have to do is pay attention!
>>344315503
Just buy Overwatch, anon.
>>344315205
You're a gigantic retard, please kill yourself immediately.
>>344315503
>Just filters OW
>Doesn't filter every character name in the game
Tracer's ult:
>place a fucking mine next to Winston (really close) and blow up him
>fucker survives this shit and kills me
Hanzo ult
>DUDE IMMA JUST GONNA STAND HERE IN SAFE PLACE AND CAST A POWERFUL KILLING WAVE THAT COULD KILLED A FUCKING REINHARDT
Fuck you.
>>344314903
Lots of characters have potentially team-wiping ults. Stop whining.
>>344314903
I don't really care about his ult anymore.
What annoys me more are the hitboxes of his fucking arrows.
They are way to big.
I know that thos killcams are not 100% accurate.
But watching them and seeing how he literally aims at the ground below my feet and headshots me is fucking stupid.
>RYU GA WAGA TEKI WO KURAU
>3 seconds later dragon
you must be really bad at video games if you dying to this
>>344315462
Pocket sand stops Reaper cold.
>>344315462
This 100% i main reaper in MM just for this reason. use his TP to get behind and wait for a decent grouping then ult.
>>344315883
>place tracer mine directly on mercy's ass
>she just accepts her fate and dies
>>344316405
Yeah but more than half the time if a reaper is in range of McCree he will just turn into shadows and leave.
Reaper is very easy too kill but a semi decent reaper player can go a whole game without a death.
>>344314903
It's easy to get out of the way since it slow and has one direction. Junkrat ult however is most broken thing in game.
>>344316389
>play a round
>enemy Hanzo is firing up his ult
>accidentally steps off the platform
>infinite drop
>RYU GA WAGA TEKI WO KURAAAAAAAaaahhh...
>mfw
>>344315462
you dumb fuck you can hear reaper's tele from dozens of feet away its the same shit
>>344316875
>shoot it once or twice
>entire ult destroyed
>>344315205
>I shouldn't have to try to win
>game should just let me win
>>344317141
unless it came from any direction you aren't looking curently in exact moment.
>>344316875
>Hear an enemy Junkrat yet FIRIN' THE HOG
>Entire team immediately looks around and then groups together for safety
>>344316697
>Zarya pops a shield on her
Heroes never die!
>>344315205
>Nerf this!
>playing unranked numbani on pub team
>stick around for 2 rounds, play offense and defense
>lose both rounds
>get POTG both times
>first withZenyatta
>then withJunkrat
>mfw
Not sure how to feel
>>344314903
>HANZO IS SO LOW SKILL
>HANZO IS SO USELESS
>HANZO'S ULT IS OP
Hanzo exists in a paradoxical state where he is both too high skill for randos to play and too low skill because of his arrows hitbox while also being completely useless but his ultimate is too useful
Make up your goddamn minds
Hanzo's ult is garbage.
Hanzo in general is garbage.
He has no role in the game and there are characters that do anything he can do a million times better
>>344317601
Hanzo's only use is his ult, he's garbage until then
>>344317481
As fucked up as competitive mode is with sudden death and ragequitters destroying your MMR out of spite, it really is better than quick play now. I swear a good 5 out of 10 quick play games end up with someone going "ALL TORB" on attack on a control point map. Competitive mode has all the angry shrill squealers if you aren't playing what they want you to play, but at least they're actually playing the game.
Until they rage quit because nobody wants to play Rein.
>>344317601
That's becauseOverwatch is relatively balanced.
>When Zarya and Pharah kill nearly the entire team
Feels pretty good
>>344318030
Zarya + almost any other ult feels great.
She is such a strong enabler.
>>344314903
I never understand your guys' complaints, first you bitch about hearing IT'S HIGH NOON but you being so stupid you keep standing still while hearing it, now you complain about an even slower ult you can even see. What the fuck.
>>344315883
tracers ult is supposed to pick off backline snipers and supports
you get the mine on a support its dead and the recharge rate of it is great
hanzos arrow should have a lower charge rate i think it will make it better from your point of view
dont mine a fucking tank asshole lel
>>344318281
Yeah, I just started playing as her. Really satisfying the correctly pull off that ult and get some kills with it.
>>344318670
>tracers ult is supposed to pick off backline snipers and supports
How does that make sense? One on one you can handle snipers and supports just fine without ults.
I hate Hanzo's ult, but it's not really unfair. It just sucks when you're in it and dont have a way to escape
>>344314903
Imagine if he could guide his dragons. Yeah. Now get out of the way.
>>344318030
>Mei at the end
>>344317320
How can you not hear the damn thing?
>>344314903
It really fucking annoys me how this game is not made for consoles at all and blizzard just copy/pasted everything. Playing on it is fucking awful.
>If you want to play as Lucio, Phara, Genji or Hanzo you have to rebind your control keys so you can jump and look around at the same time
>You wanna play Reindhart? Too bad you ned to change your control keys again or else his shield hability is on the X button and you can't shiel and look around at the same time.
>Playing against a tracer
>She is so fast you can't even look to the side to aim while she can position at any angle and shoot the fuck out of you
>Playing against a genji
>Nigga can literally damage, dash behind you and run away because your aim is so fucking slow you can't turn around properly even on 100% sensibility.
>Playing against a hanzo
>He just needs to fire at any general direction to get kills
>Playing against tobjorn.
>No one can kill the sentry because it auto aims you before you can do anything
Tob is getting a nerf but that wont be enough o fix this game on consoles.
>>344318030
>mfw Zarya main finding out she actually says something in Russian when she ults and not "I'm going for the Tobelsteel!"
They should really redo her voicelines her current VA does a terrible fucking job doing a russian accent.
Protip: turn on Dolby Atmos if you use a headset/ headphones while you play
You'll hear everything around you better
>>344320263
>FPS
>Consoles
Oh look, babies complaining about Hanzo again.
>>344314903
>I don't know how to dodge so you have to nerf this!
Git fucking gud you little bitch. I'm sick of newfags crying that characters need a nerf because they don't know how to play the fucking game right.
>>344320327
She seriously doesn't say "I'm going for the Tobelsteel"?
>>344314903
>nerf a character that's basically useless
>>344320263
it's your fault for trying to play an fps on a console
>>344321046
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMQDbxKqdUk
>>344314903
>hear him call out his ult
>run away from the spot where everyone else on your team has congealed
Boy sure is hard to avoid.
>>344315205
>I shouldn't have to move in order to avoid an ult
I bet you'll complain about how bullets shouldn't hit you if you stand still.
>It's a D.va keeps DELETING MY SHIT episode
I've heard both "nerf this" and "buff this" complaints for literally every single hero on this board.
But this takes the cake.
>>344320263
What do you mean about Reinhardt?Never had a problem with his default scheme.
Trollbjorne isn't needed yet?He seems a lot more manageable now though I've only had ow for a week.Never have trouble with him
>>344321953
A team with 2 Torbs will wipe out your shitty pub team like they're nothing.
>>344321953
Never mind just reread your post
In my opinion I think junkrat is far more over powered than hanzo, I feel like his grenades to too much damage even though they are sometimes easy to dodge
>>344322218
Who is zarya?
>>344320327
she says "fire at will" in badly accented russian
>>344319371
Imo the pulse bomb is meant to be put on supports more because they are often going to panic and run close to their team when they get hit with it.
It's definitely best for killing tanks though. Even if they don't die to the pulse bomb itself, you can kill them really quickly afterward.
>>344322373
Torbs turrets don't really do enough damage to charge zaryas particle beam and don't last long enough to destroy a lvl 2 turret
>>344320263
>Waah this game gives me the option to adjust the controls to my playstyle
>Waah console kids can't preaim at a stationary turret and just run out and get shot.
Also if you're going to argue sensitivity isn't high enough to turn around quickly or to track tracer, logically you should consider that the same applies to the tracer and genji who have to do the same to hit you.
Hanzo's ult is complete dogshit and can be dodged by anyone past rank 8. Same goes with junkrat's tire and Genki's ult. Just complete garbage
>>344322218
Learn how to counter Torbs yourself, then you can carry your shitty pub team and earn your way up to higher MMR.
>>344314903
>not absorbing the dragon arrow with D.Va
>not bouncing the dragon arrow back with Genji
>not assuming ice form with Mei
>not sprinting away with your whole team using Lucio
>not flying away from it with mercy
>not charging away with Reinhardt
>not mine jumping away with Junkrat
>not dodging away with Tracer
>not shielding yourself and allies with Zarya
>not flying away with Pharah
>NOT STEPPING ASIDE WITH ANY CHARACTER
Git gud
>>344318030
Made another one because fuck it
>>344322960
>I haven't played against any decent players
>>344314903
duuude I play the game since day one (and the beta week too) and Hanzos ult barely kills anyone. It is like Dva an area denial. Everybody gets out of the way, it is one or two kills max.
>>344323592
So how does she work again? When her shields absorb damage, her weapon power increases?
Do the shields break after taking a certain amount of damage?
>it's a Hanamura episode
>>344323808
No, you are just plain bad you can hear any ult coming from a mile away. I play as Mcree and I ALWAYS take out the junkrat tire because it's slow as shit, Genji's ult? he can just be stunned and you then you shoot him in the head. Hanzo's ult is only good for clearing an area temporarily, its' like d.va's ult.
If you fight any decent players yourselves you'll see how someone will render those ults useless.
Man, I'm sorry but anyone who thinks any of those ults are good is just bad.
>enemy team ults on offense
>wipes out the entire team and they win the point
>enemy team ults on defense
>wipes out the entire team and they have to wait 6 more minutes
>games always end in steam rolls or 8 minute turtles
They need either do 5 CP or make A/D balanced. For fucks sake either lower the time limit when you team wipe or have ults lose some charge on death.
Seriously though how is there no 5 CP maps when that is the quintessential for 6 v 6 comp games
>>344323882
Yeah her gun gets stronger when she gets hit while shielded and if allies are shielded and shot at.
They are invincible but they last only like 2 seconds So you want to get shot at as much as you can then go behind cover once your shield goes down and gun is charged up.
>>344324069
>It's Anubis, your attacking
>Team has a Symmetra, Torb, Junkrat, Zarya, etc.
Why does this happen so often
>>344315531
>hanzo has wolf ult
>you have -.8 seconds to move or die instantly
He litterally calls the ult after it goes off, like holy shit blizzard.
>>344324272
The shields actually have 200 HP each, they ain't invincible.
>walk out of spawn
>hanzos ult appears out of the wall when he was half way across the map
This is worse than crits.
>>344324557
Everyone has learned to avoid Hanzo's ult by now, he does a little dance before he even shoots the arrow and it takes like 2 seconds to get to you. The wolves don't even really damage you TOO fast, hell I've tanked a few as Roadhog before.
>>344324641
Really though what class could take advantage of that besides bastion? By the time you do over 200 damage the shield would have worn off.
>>344324757
You must not have been ulted from behind a wall then.
>>344324757
Yea anf what happens when it comes through the wall shithead
>>344324789
You're not always in a 1v1 situation though, getting hit by a pharah at the same time as a soldier 76 is fucking your shit is going to burst that bubble relatively quickly, so you can get into some awkward situations where you think you're safe, but, you're not. Though it does give you 50 energy so there's that.
>>344320263
>>No one can kill the sentry because it auto aims you before you can do anything
His turret locks onto the first enemy it sees and stays on it until they're dead. Wait for it to lock onto your tank and then go in and kill it. It's not hard lol
>>344320263
Why the fuck are you playing an FPS on a console? Your own fault for being retarded.
>>344324882
>>344324889
You move to the side. Some shitter heroes or really unfortunate areas aside, all of them either have HP to tank a quarter second of getting hit or the mobility to GTFO.
>>344325168
The turrets are so fucking bad.
Like they only piss tracers off.
>>344324882
>>344324889
Accidentally submitted my smug anime face before I wrote my reply. But, it takes a second to travel through the wall, you can hear it, I don't really understand how you are dying to Haznos ult unless he fires it at a really good time while everyone is busy. I don't think I've ever been killed by a wall-wolf.
>>344325318
>hanzos ult goes through a wall and hits you directly
>the animation is fucky so you can't tell which direction it's moving half the time
>if you don't have an invuln you're dead
Shit does 200 damage per second mateo, You have to be moving already for it to not kill you.
I'm not saying it's the best ult but a hanzo ult from behind a wall is nearly unavoidable.
>>344322540
hory shet lel yeah I watched the video someone linked here and that pronunciation is balls.
>>344325410
his voice line is delayed by a second for wolf.
>>344314903
>nerf it
I don't even think it needs a nerf, they need to completely rethink his ult. The whole "giant unstoppable meme dragon" thing is retarded
He needs something completely different
>>344325321
They're intended to piss off Tracers, which is why nerfing the damage is retarded. Should've nerfed the range.
Remove fucking auto-regain for Ults. Getting powerful abilities for free is the stupidest thing ever.
>>344325321
Not to mention it takes forever to upgrade it to level 2, and if the enemy team is not totally braindead, a genji or pharah can damage the turret from long distance. Torb can't repair his turret faster than you can damage it. Honestly the console people crying about him being OP really do need to get gud
>>344315672
yeah, it would be awful because there would be no variety
keep crying faggot
>>344315672
>all you'd have to do is pay attention
>unironically implying he wants a game where you don't have to pay attention
yeah this thread isn't real
>>344315048
>at full health
Of course
That's the nerf it needs, make her revive 50% health would make it actually balanced
>>344314903
>Neil as hanzo: no arrow hits despite me leading the aim or aiming where they were, getting one ultimate to do shit
>Enemy hanzo: shuts my team down, manages to hit me as genji/tracer every time, is otherwise a God
>All this on PS4
How
I honestly can't tell if some of you people are joking, you cannot be this fucking bad at the game.
>>344314903
>It's a defence episode where everyone flees after taking 25 damage episode
I don´t play OW but I see these threads daily. Did really all that LoL trash migrate to OW or something?
From what I observed so far
>Get killed by X
>Go to /v/ and spend next 5 hours telling everyone x should be nerfed
I don't know if there is some kind of secret glitch or truck but this one Hanzo was ulting within the first 25 seconds of the match and was ulting at least once every 45 seconds.
Jesus, I thought people were done bitching about this finally?
>Beta: Holy shit Hanzo ult, oh shit! Where? Run? Fuuuuuuuuck
>Release: Oh, hanzo used his spirit dragon, everyone move slightly to the right or left and let's keep pushing
I really can't even remember a time where I got killed by it anymore. It's really easy to avoid after you have seen it 2 times.
>>344314903
let me guess you play with ingame sounds off.
>>344327152
It's just a heavily counter based game that's balanced by having every character be overpowered
I enjoy it but man it's just frustrating on a fundamental level
>>344327152
>Did really all that LoL trash migrate to OW or something?
Yeah. It's like TF2 but with harder counters, so of course all the babbies that "main" heroes will cry about getting killed instead of just switching to another hero.
>>344328514
literally who would do this
>>344317326
hole. fire in the hole.
>>344315205
>The point is that I shouldn't have to...
>I shouldn't have to dodge bullets!
>I shouldn't have to worry about the objective
>I shouldn't have to aim to kill people!
>current year
>STILL getting hit by Hanzo/McCree ults
What does Junkrat offer over Pharah? Just started ranked (50) so im still a bit of a shitter but i dont really see the point of Junkrat over her bar holding a handful of niche chokepoints
>>344332284
those 2 heroes are not even comparable
its like asking "what does lucio have over winston"
>>344332284
Utility. Junkrat can immobilize with his trap and his mine does damage in addition to knocking people away. Pharah has mobility but that's it; her concussive blast doesn't even do any noticeable damage. Pharah's mobility makes her better as an attack character and avoiding people who can't aim, while Junkrat has a higher damage potential.
>>344322932
>>Waah this game gives me the option to adjust the controls to my playstyle
You have to do that every time or else some habilities are locked into the X button, it is fucking awful.
>>Waah console kids can't preaim at a stationary turret and just run out and get shot.
It really doesn't matter when the turrent can see you 10 billion miles away. they should have nerffed the range and not the damage.
Also, tracer doesn't need to properly aim since she can teleport in any position, even if she doesn't kill you she has enough time to teleport to safety and adjust the aim to comeback a shit on you
About Genji he doesn't necessarely kill you in first sight but he can damage you and run away behind you without you being able to turn around, his survivability is super high on consoles, together with phara and anyone who can climb a wall really.
>>344332284
He flushes people out and forces them to move
>>344332801
>You have to do that every time or else some habilities are locked into the X button, it is fucking awful.
You can adjust controls by character dumbfuck.
>>344314903
Really get gud
You really suck if you cant just move out of the way.
>>344314903
Ultimates in general are a retarded idea that do nothing but enable shitters
Does anyone else feel Rein's ult is underwhelming? It seems that if a corner is in the way it doesn't go through, and the hit is too narrow.
I want to be rewarded for me babysittinf, man.
>>344314903
wait, are people seriously dumb enough to get killed by this shitty attack?
The only thing that actually makes hanzo ult strong is if the hanzo has a zarya on his team. The zarya plus hanzo ult is a guarantee multi kill, and is the only thing that makes hanzo useful for a team.
>>344323592
As a heads up, Zarya's shield lets herself or the person she gives it to stop being frozen if you put it on before it completes. Completely negates it while active and resets all progress.
Also instantly clears away Discord orbs when it's put on someone.
>>344333902
rionheart ult is one of the strongest in the game since it is instant and a massive cc that allows massive follow up
>>344314903
>It's the git gud at overwatch fgt chronicles.git gud
>>344317358
>Playing Zarya
>Enemy team has a Reinhardt
>He charges at me
>I sidestep and watch
>He grabs my team's Mercy
>Shield her before he hits a wall
>She survives, I get 50 charge
>Immediately melt the fuck out of the Reinhardt
That shit is so satisfying.
>>344327183
No trick, you literally get like 20% Ult charge from a headshot. It's fucking dumb.
>>344334041
yes
sometimes he'll use it from a point you can't see and you have no idea where it's coming from, where it's going or the path in between.
it should show an area that it'll affect
>>344314903
Easiest fucking ulti to dodge in the game. The only reason you'de get hit is if the hanzo positioned themselves in a good location.
You have to be absolute shit to get killed by Hanzo ulti, or D.va ulti in most cases. Plus most of them are piss easy to stop if you expect them.
>>344334041
That giant dragon dildo that can go through walls? yes
>>344317080
>fall off platform in nepal while ulting
>aim towards point
>dragon comes up through the floor and kills 3
it was a cool angle, we still lost though
>>344314903
> its a console shitter complaining about balance episode
Hoho haha
>>344315205
> i shouldnt have to use my brain
Anyone paying attention can see and hear Hanzo's ult coming a mile away.
The only exception is when you're on an enclosed objective, in which case you should be expecting it to be aimed there the second RYUU GA WA plays
>>344326670
neil sucks dick man
>>344320327
She says "I'm going for the toblerone"
>>344320263
Why the fuck didn't you rebind the controls? I played Overwatch first on console since I didn't have my gaming PC with me at the time and I didn't have much problem after putting jump and abilities to L1, R1, and L3/R3.
Hanzo's ult is only dangerous if their team also has a Mei or Zarya. Otherwise it is piss easy to avoid, not to mention it comes with a loud audio cue.
>>344320327
Her accent is fine, it's her stressing everything wrong. They could use an actual coach to get it right.
But it's like 3 lines and that would be expensive just so the minority of russiaphones can get a slightly better experience.
>>344316697
>playing Genji on lijiang tower
>tracer teleporting towards me at full speed
>instinctively reflect
>she ults directly onto me, making it stick to her face
>she recalls away and dies
The fact that she could've just stayed next to me and Allah Akbar'd made it that much funnier
is this what the game is like at such a low mmr
>>344324789
Pretty much every class can break it before the 2 seconds are up, 2 seconds are quite a while.
The shield has a huge hitbox, bigger than D.Va or Roadhog, so inaccurate weapons and shotguns do full damage against it.
If you focus down a shield as a team it can vaporize.
>>344324272
>>344324641
They're not invincible as second anon said, but the damage that kills the shield gets entirely negated regardless of how much it was. Junkrat tire completely removes the shield but doesn't do any damage otherwise for instance.
>150 health
>Absolutely no mobility options
>Still practically 1 shot by Widowmaker, 2 shot by reinhardt/mei/Hanzo,
>Hard countered by Hanzo, Mei, Reinhardt, Zarya, and Winston.
>Heals only 30HP a second to ONE target, and has to wait for travel time
>Orbs are line of sight based and can't even work with windows or through enemy shields
>Right click LOWERS orb damage to 30 per orb and can only be properly used on idel sentries and bastion
>ult is still affected by knockback and being pinned, only healing 100HP a second, the same as 2 fucking mercys.
>Has same fire rate as Mei's right click, but only does 45 damage an orb (90 + Discord) vs. her 75.
>Has a hitbox the size of canada because of his over-exaggerated animations that makes him an easy target, especially to projectiles
>Has no passives
>0% usage in competitive because hes so underpowered
BUFF THIS SHIT. NOW
Seriously, I love zenyatta, being able to play offensively while supporting and get kills is amazing, but at some point when you get into higher levels and everyone figures out the game, the magic goes away and Zen gets fucked by so many factors that he just can't compete with Mercy and Lucio for support/healing
They make him a very offensive and capable warrior, whos secondary job is debuff and healing, but he is so glass and immobile that he can't properly serve his designed functions right.
How would you buff Zen to make him more viable to better serve his roll as offensive healer?
Suggestions:
>50 HP +125 Shield
>Make Orbs instant like Zarya's shields and let them persist for 5-6 seconds out of Line of Sight
>Boost healing to 40 health per second
>Passive ability to not be affected by traps, splash damage, and other attacks based on the ground (because he is floating)
>Ult casts Discord to those in its range as well
>Can float and move freely in any direction moving at normal movespeed while holding jump
>>344324069
I love Hanamura, but fuck that second point. No matter how well my team does in any other situation on that map. Shit always seems to fall apart once we try to go for the second point.
>>344315013
>>344337450
>recalls away and dies
You can at least try making your fake stories believable.
>>344338074
It's really a bitch.
Mostly because there are so many places for defenders to hide as well as spawning 2 feet away.
It's probably the hardest 2nd point to take in the game.
>It's a /v/ proves how bad they are at videogames thread
>>344338123
lol
>>344325882
Are they really nerfing the damage? It already pisses me off that turrets do so little damage they can't even kill themselves off a Genji reflect.
>>344320263
What you said about Pharah and Reinhardt is balantly wrong. Pharah's hover jump shit is bound to L2 (LT) on console. Just like Mercy's hover shit, and just like Reinhardt's shield. I've played Rein on both PC and PS4. I like him better on console personally because you don't need to be precise with his only projectile that's the size of a fucking cow.
>>344326523
Or make her revive take longer than .5 seconds so she can't just martyr herself.
>>344338714
Yeah. Console only, and it'll be included with the next big patch since console patches less frequently than PC.
>>344314903
>it's another "Nerf this class because it killed me once" episode
Seriously, try playing Hanzo. If your team does to that shit either the Hanzo is really good or your team deserved it.
>>344315205
Cease this at once
>>344332284
he requires no skill
>>344338714
>consoles
>>344338773
He's talking about Pharah's hover jets, which is bound to jump. It's better to rebind that so you can move, hover and shoot at the same time. Same with Lucio for wall riding.
Fortunately you can rebind by character so he's still retarded.
>>344314903
Don't let them see your skill rating, anon.
>>344315205
>>344314903
Let me guess
You're a console player
>>344337974
my favorite part
>so shitty that everyone targets him because he's an easy kill
ayy
>>344333902
It could use better hit detection, but man do I love
>HAMMER DOWN
>Fire Strike through as many bodies as possible
>Charge into the highest health character
>Sweep up the rest
>>344315205
>The point is that I shouldn't have to...
t. Bastion "main"
>>344339247
Probably not but he's literally saying "I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO MOVE"
The only problem I have is it goes right through Rein's shield without depleting it first. It'd probably wreck the shield quickly anyway, but that'd give a few more seconds to let Rein get out of the way if he's shielding.
If you're bunched-up together, just break apart as best you can when you hear the Japanese.
>>344327152
I'd say it's no big deal as Blizzard would gain nothing from listening to complete retards who refuse to adapt. But it's thanks to these retards that McCree is now completely useless. At least when they removed Tracers ass-pose they replaced it with a better one.
>>344338375
It happened whether you believe it or not señor. I have it saved. But I do play onPS4and am bad so everyone I play with is equally bad. I'd show you but I don't feel like googling how to properly make webms so I guess you win.
>>344337974
>Right click LOWERS orb damage to 30 per orb and can only be properly used on idle sentries and bastion
Alright but I've killed so many dumb fucks around corners trying to LoS my Discord Orb and instead getting a face full of destruction orbs
I've pulled off same really crazy shit with Zen, but I also had to put in immense effort. But yeah, the things he needs the most is mobility and survivability. He's too damn slow and too damn fragile, he has literally no options besides, "kill them before they kill you" if caught out alone.
>That feel when having to go toe-to-toe with Tracers because your team doesn't give a shit about being a team
>>344338869
>>344339027
Ah. Carry on then.
>>344333902
the hit detection is fucking awful
>>344337974
+25 shield (50 health, 125 shield)
or shift his values to
+50 shield (25 health, 175 shield)
Reasoning being that Zenyatta isn't (technically) a warmachine, but a monk who has attained enlightenment (or whatever you wanna call it) and his supreme focus (shield) allows him to eat a limited number of attacks before he has to focus again. Maybe give him a Bastion-type repair where he has to meditate to regenerate his shield/armor?
Orb healing rate ramps up if the person doesn't take damage/stays out of combat for a short period but drops back to the initial rate if they take damage from an enemy attack
Discord Orb/Primary fire are fine. Alt fire needs a rework. Instead of a chargeshot, it should be a shield stance that Zenyatta can use to soak attacks like mother fucking Shaka:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l3JN_aW7pQ
This could be used similarly to his alt fire in that more damage absorbed=more damage reflected in a single shot. If he takes more damage than the amount of shield he has while using this attack, he immediately loses all of his shield and has to rely on his remaining health. This means that at most Zenyatta could (currently) absorb 100 damage before dipping into his health.
From a playstyle perspective, this would allow Zenyatta to Mark targets and force them to retreat or to burst him down through his shield hoping that they miss their shot. To balance this, either add a recovery period after Zenyatta fires the new countershot or expend more ammo when using the shot to allow retaliation.
If they don't want to go that route, give the man a yoga teleport or increasing his base movespeed.
>>344340328
Yeah, the alt fire is moderately useful if you know how to discord>charge cancel. By the time you line up a shot, you should have 2-3 orbs charged which would murder anyone who is marked and has 200 or less provided you get at least one headshot of the three.
One of the best feelings is catching a tracer and twoshotting her before she has time to process what is happening and using her rewind.
>>344315160
Pharah
>Its a Symmetra gets a quad kill with her little gun episode
>>344314903
I haven't died to a hanzo ult since the week of release.
It's not hard to spend 2 seconds sidestepping. Heroes with decent hp can walk through it width-wise, and heroes with low hp have some sort of mechanic to dodge it anyways.
If you die to a hanzo ult, that's entirely your fault for being stupid. It's a zoning tool, a terrible one at that.
>>344340537
I would honestly be happy with just the additional +25 health and boosted speed. Probably because that's the most likely thing Blizzard would do, and those were the first fixes I thought of after realizing my favorite spiritual robotic monk is shit.
>>344339037
You don't have to rebind. On console her jump jets are bound to the L2 button.
>>344341286
We're not talking about the jump jet ability, we're talking about the thrusters that are part of her jump.
>>344318030
>that mei wall at the end
Why is the worse player on the team almost always Mei?
>>344340236
Recall would take the bomb off of her.
>has been playing for 2 days
>has won only 2 matches
>keeps getting 4-5 gold medals
The fuck is going on here
>>344315205
>the point is that I shouldn't have to
wew lad
>>344315013
Easier said than done when every map consists entirely of 6-foot choke points
>>344340537
The problem with Zen is that for some fucking reason someone thought it would be a good idea to give him the widest hitboxes amongst squishies. If that nigga got off his invisible hover chair to run he'll be way more hard to hit
>>344315205
people are this bad? this explains why my team mates are so consistently terrible in casual matches
>>344340938
JUSTICE RAI
>>344341424
That is exactly what I am talking about. Using pharah, you can jump by pressing the X button on PS4, or do her hover thing where the fuel meter pops up near the crosshair, by pressing L2. The secondary fire button. On console the abilities are one L1, R1, and ultimates are on Triangle.
>>344315013
>wake up from comatose state with monitor hovering a few inches from my face
>because i shouldn't have to get up
>computer knows i've awakened so it automatically starts up overwatch
>because i shouldn't have to move my arms
>game auto-queues me in quick play
>because i shouldn't have to click it myself
>game flips a coin, either instalock as genji or hanzo
>because i shouldn't need to decide who to play
>loads me up in-front of a static non-moving opponent and begins auto clicking
>because i shouldn't have to move around and click stuff myself
![[Malicious Maladies Made Marked Down].png](https://i.imgur.com/Opq1Ukv.jpg "[Malicious Maladies Made Marked Down].png")
>mfw i discovered Roadhog's hook did damage
>mfw ever i get a hook kill
For some reason i thought it just pulled people in and that is it. Ive actually gotten good at sniping low health people with it. I dont even have to worry about them retaliating.
The leaver system is retarded
>>344341591
Shit you're right. She just blinked. I thought she had recalled. So if they had recalled then I would have died, correct?
>>344342013
You're right it should be more harsher so faggots are forced to stay
>>344341879
10/10
>>344333902
literally anything in the way will just stop your ult from hitting shit and its awful.
>>344340537
What about instead of that countershot whatever he gets an absorption effect that turns the damage taken into AoE healing for his team?
>>344342003
M2 has roughly the same range, does more damage and doesn't have a 6 second cooldown so if you can reliably snipe people with a hook then you're better off using your M2.
>>344318030
>Rein stops shielding
>Zarya doesn't bomb the group of people
>dat wall
I don't even
>>344338564
It is, thats why they dont play that map in tournaments.
>>344314903
Get a good lucio on your team. He'll listen for the ult and if it's not already too late, he'll speed boost you out of it.
>>344315160
You can walk out of Hanzo's ult while it's damaging you or just completely dodge it when he screams walkie talkie washy & you see it slowly creeping through the map. Just about everyone else is better suited to fuck your shit up if you don't have somebody dedicated to canceling their ult.
>>344342326
I was thinking about that too, but then it kind of detracts from his Ult. Not to say that his Ult isn't already pretty good aside from being counterintuitive to the character's playstyle, but if it was aoe healing he'd have the same ability twice.
What would his Ult be instead then?
Or even if they just made his alt fire a shield that consumes his ammo. That would be way more useful than his current alt fire.
>>344342091
Exactly. I also don't like how my exp is sapped if someone on the other team quits
>only need Mercy Huge Rez and Double Capture trophy to platinum the game
>resurrect 4+ people at least 10+ times
>even have the spray unlocked for doing it
>still don't have the trophy
>just finished Temple of Anubis on Attack
>capture both points with D.Va
>not a single death at any point in the game
>Double Capture trophy doesn't trigger
>>344342437
Have you actually played the game?
(Yeah Mei's are retarded)
>>344342437
barrier broke
meis wall was probably on cooldown
but yeah should have lobbed a few alt fires in instead of normal fire
>>344342728
>consoleplebs
>>344318030
>playing Genji
>allied Zarya vortexes entire enemy team
>I activate Dragonblade
>Zarya puts bubble on me
>tfw
How do I counter Zarya
>Dont shoot her shield
no seriously
>>344342658
I just felt like the counterattack thing was too similar to Genjis reflect and having some relatively reliable AoE healing would help Zenyatta be the middle ground healer between Lucio and Mercy.What if he got reworked entirely with more tanky survivablity, like 250 health/shields, and some sort of "stances" like Lucios music alternating between Harmony and Discord?
>>344341060
>Posting shit-tier Senrans
>>344342658
Any ult that doesn't align with the character's intended playstyle needs to be reworked. Limiting Zen to a 10m AoE heal means his ult is a nerf unless you're using it as an ohshit button to get yourself out of danger. Zenyatta's playstyle is to cast orbs and shoot from range, therefore his ult should be something like he can put down infinite orbs for a brief period of time, like 6-10 seconds. Potentially gamechanging while still aligning with how he should be played.
>>344343430
I treat her like Mei and just try to stay out of range of her beam. It's always a good idea not to shoot the pink bubble but it really doesn't matter since a your team mates will be stupid enough to keep her above 50% charge the whole game anyway.
>>344343430
kill her before she kills you
>>344320263
>playing fps on consoles
>playing blizzard game on consoles
>playing fps made by blizzard on consoles
you're gonna have a bad time
>>344343430
I find Mei is really good for shutting her down, as well as Reaper.
Even while playing her, those two are the most annoying to take down if I ever find myself 1v1.
Pharah is also pretty decent if the map allows some room, or Roadhog in a pinch if you can time your hooks when her shields are on cd.
>>344342335
True, but not as satisfying.
That hook is like pure sex.
I mean, its not like im actively going for hook kills, but when they happen, just feels right.
>>344343704
>unless you're using it as an ohshit button to get yourself out of danger
I find myself doing this often. But I'm also usually up close with the team hiding behind them or objects/props.
Should Reinhardts shield block it? Seeing as he can block D.VAs ultimate
>>344343430
THE SUPER SECRET COUNTER TO ZARYA IS TOFight her with at least two people and just keep shooting her through the shield. You can break the shield with enough focus fire, but the average player is still stuck back with "DUN SHOOT SHIEL SHE GET STRONK."
Kill her before she kills you.
>>344343704
>Zen's new ult allows him to cast his orbs on multiple heroes/enemies and they don't disappear when they leave line of sight but they last only as long as Zen is alive
>>344315205
>I shouldn't have to...
You are whats wrong with modern games
>>344315205
>The point is that I shouldn't have to
>>344324069
>its a defense goes all D.VA episode
>>344341879
10/10 underrated post
fuck me that was funny
>>344314903
This is a troll, right?
Try not having a single-digit MMR, friend
>>344344040
D.VA's ult should do a shit ton more damage to shields. It's dumb that he can block it completely and still have shield to block everything else.
>>344315205
This is probably the most retarded post I've read so far in any Overwatch thread ever
>>344343505
It differs in that it doesn't reflect the damage 1:1 like Genji's would. It would only be able to reflect back the damage value absorbed. Currently, Zen has 150 health with 100 shield, so he'd only be able to absorb 100 damage risk free before he begins to lose his actual shield, raising stored damage to 200 leaving him with 50 health and no shield if he goes for the full "charge." On a marked character, 300 damage is almost an instakill.
It would likely have to be a % of incoming damage up to a maximum of 200. This way Zen could shield a bit longer while making it almost impossible to stop something like a Bastion who just has to hold M1 down for a big longer to deal 50 health damage to kill him.I've always liked stancedance characters, but only if they have unique actions that can only be accessed in each stance. Splitting his harmony/discord into two modes would feel like poor design considering he could do both at any time to begin with. Maybe if the heal stance gave him increased mobility to facilitate healing multiple people while the discord stance is his current speed. It's likely you would need to add either another ability or passive per stance though to differentiate them further.
>>344342031
No the bomb disappears.
She literally goes back in time to when there was no bomb on her.
What if zen got changed so he has 225 health with 125 being shields and instead of harmony healing it reduces damage taken by 25% while it also heals him for 15 per second when it's not on anyone, so there would more of a focus on being an offensive support who could actually fight close to the front without needing a tank to baby him
Even if he got buffed back to the beta eternal harmony orb stage he would still never be picked because in his current the others providing greater healing and utility
>People dying to the slow as fuck Hanzo ult
>People not getting out of the way of Soldier's ult
>People not splitting up when Junkrat's ult is coming
>>344314903
ULTIMATES IN A FPS
THANK GOD I'VE ALREADY SWITCH'D TO TF2 AGAIN
>>344343430
Just kill the shit out of her.
She has no mobility, armor and like 400 health.
Having someone like pharah, widow or hanzo focus her is great but if you can just get the team to focus her she will go down.
>>344344693
current state*
>>344315205
t. console player
PS: Tobjorn should be nerfed
>>344344693
>225 health
>buffs team and heals self
>still can debuff enemies for 50% damage
>puts out a crazy amount of damage with good accuracy
Then he would be broken anon.
>>344344693
mite b cool. i still think his ult is nearly useless.
>>344344941
He really wouldn't, he would obviously be high pick rate but he still could never match up the gamebreaking amount of ults mercy can give or the utility of lucio. he would just be closer to an attack class than a true support
>>344345102
>be better than soldier as ranged dps in a meta where soldier is always a one of
>not broken
>>344343430
>charge up full powered shot
>miss
>charge up full powered shot
>miss
>charge up full powered shot
>land bodyshot
>spam uncharged shots until she gets close enough to attack me
>hook away and spam assault rifle in her general direction until my allies finish her off
>hon hon hon
>mfw
>want to climb in competitive
>have to main Zarya to get there or play S76 when someone else plays Zarya
I hate how necessary this Russian cunt is to win.
>>344345041
There is the beauty in it, with a change in playstyle it puts him in a position where he can use it in a more reactionary style
