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What if I haven't played any of them
Zero Escape, no question.
Ace Attorney and Ghost Trick are some of my favorite games ever made, so I'm siding with that.
I haven't played Zero Escape but it's been in my backlog for years, I need to get around to it soon.
Danganronpa couldn't interest me less.
haven't played ZTD yet, why are people saying it's dissapointing?
As much as I like ZE series, I've got to choose AA this time.
>>344302668
This isnt even a contest.
AA>>>Danganronpa which is just a shittier weeb AA knockoff>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Zero Sense: writers block dillemma
People like to claim how ZE games are great, but to people that arent delusional cockmunchers, they're dogshit VN's written by an untalented hack who cant write a coherent story to save his gook life so he resorts to using the absolute lamest copout in stories, aka time travel/dimensional bullshit
>>344303431
It does not conclude (or often even mention) many of the loose ends. Its big reveal also falls a bit flat.
>>344303595
>they're dogshit VN's written by an untalented hack who cant write a coherent story to save his gook life so he resorts to using the absolute lamest copout in stories, aka time travel/dimensional bullshit
I wouldn't say I completely disagree, but in no way, shape or form doesn't this apply to an immensely greater degree to Danganronpa. Aside from time travel/dimensional bullshit of course - at least not yet.
>>344303608
Thats because the writer is a fucking retarded cockslap.
>3rd game wasnt being made
>people beg
>get given a shoestring budget consisting of a 50 yen coin and 3 chopsticks
>know full well that a 4th game wont happen
>still refuse to give people a proper ending.
AA: T&T>AJ>AA>JFA>DD
Danganronpa 2>1
ZTD>VLR>999
>>344302668
Ace Attorney
the only zero escape game that was really good was 999 and dangan ronpa is barely a series with just 2 games and one spinoff
>>344302668
Danganronpa because it hasn't disappointed yet like Ace Attorney or Zero Escape has. Hopefully Spirit of Justice will be good though.
>>344303595
Don't play Danganronpa v3 when it comes out.
>>344303431
It was a fun ride but several plot points from VLR were dropped and the ending didn't give me the closure I wanted. Don't regret playing it.
>>344304230
Danganronpa 1 should be last.
>>344302668
Zero Escpae >>>>>>> Dangan Ronpa>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>AA
AA is just comedy trash, Danganronpa is often too formulaic. ZE is full of crazy twists with cool and diverse puzzles.
>>344302668
Danganrompa since its the only one that has a future right now
Zero escape is good but its over now
Nobody cares about a shitty lawyer tho
>>344303431
the second game basicaly ends on a cliffhanger that says the character have to stop a huge fuck ass calamity in the third game
in the third game, they don't stop the huge fuck ass calamity because reasons
>>344304434
This is the shittiest bait I've seen all day, and if not that, the shittiest opinion I've seen in my life.
Ace Attorney because charm
>>344304230
DR 1 is better than 2
>>344305429
okay anon
Ace Attorney series as a whole, 999 is my favorite single game of these options, but the other Zero Escape games are weaker. Danganronpa is good, I just think it's the weaker of the 3. I'd take Ghost Trick and Steins;Gate over all of the options personally.
>>344302668
Choose one to what exactly?
>>344304230
>ZTD>VLR>999
I'm gonna need two guns for this one
Miles Investigations 2 > Danganronpa 1/2 > Ace Attorney Games >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ZE
ace attorney
danganronpa is cool but never liked that hope/despair dilemma
zero escape story is only good for laughs, and escape the room sections
AA > ZE > DR
999 is the best game out of all of them though
999 is a strong game because the sci fi shit is a huge twist on top of a very well done tension.
The sequels suffer from having to raise the stakes and now the audience knows there's sci fi psychic shit in the series, so it just goes full nuts...which is entertaining in its own way. I don't think any of the Zero Escape games are outright bad though
>>344306410
I agree completely. 999 was special because the scifi elements completely blindsided me as I thought I was in for a very grounded and gritty game.
Danganronpa > ZE > Ace Attorney
My problem with Ace Attorney is that the pacing is absolute shit and it takes forever to get what you need. It doesn't help that you move through menus and only are able to go to some locations after going to specific ones.
I like them all
>>344302668
Zero Escape, hands down.
Best story.
Best characters.
Bestmemes.
>Implying that there's any choice other than Ace Attorney
Danganronpa is weeb is garbage.
>>344304230
>AJ>AA
>ZTD>VLR>999
That's not a opinion, that you being wrong.
>>344306936
>there's still people who claim to love AA but never played AAI2
>>344306827
>Best characters
Only on average. The other two series are really inconsistent with their characters, but their highs are better than Zero Escape's highs.
>>344307003
Just like your English?
i fucking cant, i love them all
but if i REALLY have to choose, i chooseDanganronpa
Danganronpa's good when you put your brain into the cheesy B movie mode. Otherwise it can be kinda bad. The characters are good when studied more deeply, but many suffer from not enough time being dedicated to them. Ultra Despair Girls has the best writing but the worst gameplay. I love it the most out of the three.
Zero Escape I haven't touched yet, playing trough the first AA right now.
>>344307046
best game in the series
If you're an Ace Attorney fan and you've yet to play the fan translation of AAI2, you're a faggot
>>344307112
t. shit eating moefag who cosplay Naruto at anime convention
>>344303431
It's a really good game on it's own but as far as answers from the other games go it hasn't got shit
>>344302668
Zero Escape > Ace Attorney >>> Danganronpa
I wish Ace Attorney had more of a focus on its overarching plot like Ace Attorney.
There is clearly only one choiceCOMPLEX MOTIVES
How can AA and ZE characters compete against Nagito?
>>344303098
u r gay
>>344306702
You say that, and you put on top the series where every! Fucking! Time! You enter a room you have to go through the same "opening a pop-up storybook" animation?
>>344307287
*like zero escape
>>344307339
That should have been spoilered, shit
>>344307397
That takes around two or three seconds at most. I think the pacing issues more meant how the investigations/story goes.
is there a non-malware ios emulator? I need to play AA5 real fucking bad
>>344307046
>>344307181
Guess I'm a faggot. I really do want to play it, just kinda hesitant to buy an R4 card I guess.
>>344307397
I don't think there's a problem with the aesthetic especially when it doesn't take very long. It genuinely takes time to transfer to area to area in AA than one indoor transition.
>>344302668
Danganronpa.
better atmosphere, music, gameplay, ending, and dialog than the other two.
zero escape would be number 1 butttt ZTD ruined the entire trilogy with carlos 10 months, mind hacks, ayylmao, and complex motives.
>>344307585
You're not a faggot but you really should play it. It is truly the best AA game. You canemulate it on Desmune.
>>344302668
AA > ZE > DR
Favorite game is probably DR2 but only half of the cases are good and I didn't like the other games.
>>344307585
Emulate it.
>>344302668
I love DanRonpa and ZeroEscape but I cant live anymore without Ace Attorney.
>>344307692
>ending
Nigga, I love danganronpa but the ending for the games has always been horseshit. Except for Ultra Despair Girls.
Danganronpa games capitvated me the most so I guess that's my choice.
>>344307339
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zAU7tZnCcQ
Steins;gate is better than all of them
>>344308083
its a VN not a game. not a single gameplay can be found in it
>>344308083
It's in a different genre, fuck off.
>>344307497
>That takes around two or three seconds at most.
Two or three seconds add up to a lot of wasted time, especially considering that it's purely an aesthetic choice.
Also Danganronpa suffers just as much from the "you have to do exactly what we expect you to in this room before you are allowed to move forward" issue. I played DR2 recently, and it drove me insane when I basically had to check every object and character in some rooms over and over again to see if I unlocked some new dialogue, and then try to leave again.
>>344307651
That is patently wrong.
>>344308083
I agree, but it's not an option.
I also think Ghost Trick is better than all of them.
>>344308083
It was slow in the beginning but that Suzuha ending changed my mind.
>>344306827
>Bestmemes.
I agree with this
Is there a way to play Ace Attorney on pc?
Also when is 999 coming to steam?
Dangan Ronpa is purê ludo
>>344307692
>better atmosphere,
You're sick in the brain.
>gameplay
It's just Phoenix Wright covered in gimmicks
>ending
>and dialog
That's it, I'm taking you to a hospital.
>>344308049
>>344308156
>>344308165
>implying op's games aren't vn's
>>344308205
Do you have ADHD or something? It's a murder mystery game, of course you should examine everything, that's expected of you.
>>344308239
emulator
>>344308239
dude, just emulate them
>>344308459
I mean in a different genre of visual novel. Danganronpa, Ace Attorney and (kinda) Zero Escape are all murder mystery related. Although Zero Escape's more about, well. Escape and puzzles.
Steins;Gate isn't about murder mysteries.
DR. Even though it's probably the weakest at the moment, it's the one with the most upcoming potential.
>>344307339
>placing spoiler content in a non-ZTD thread
Get out
>>344304230
Trials and tribulations was fucking stupid
>>344308771
Also this. The DR3 anime's looking great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AaOjY0cBzg
And V3 shows promise since it's going to have some future fuckery.
>>344304230
>ZTD>VLR>999
>>344307692
>better atmosphere, music, gameplay, ending, and dialog than the other two.
999 has the best atmosphere hands down
DR2 does have the best music so you get that one
Gameplay? KEK
Ending? First game was just dumb. Second game was so pants on head retarded that I actually kind of liked it (pic related), but it wasn't amazing.
Dialogue? It's good, but I think that's because of how much fun some of the characters are; the writing quality in 999 blows it away.
>>344308459
All 3 of OP's games have gameplay elements.
Before ZTD I would have said zero escape but now that it's over and danganronpa has 2 anime and a game coming out soon I gotta go with that.
>>344307943
>Danganronpa games capitvated me the most
No, that's wrong!
Haven't play the Zero Escape series yet, so between AA and DR, I guess I'd go with DR.
>>344308960
looks dumb as fuck with its "serious tone" but with school hijinks. so offputting
How is it even a contest
Danganronpa > Ace attorney > ... > Zero escape
>>344309489
They're two different animes in technicality. They don't mix. The serious one comes out every monday and the school hijinks one (which will become more serious eventually) releases every thursday.
Haven't actually played an Ace Attorney game yet, but I liked Danganronpa more than Zero Escape
>>344304230
no
Allow me to fix your opinion
AA: I don't care
Danganronpa 2>1
999>VLR>ZTD
>>344310002
>DR 2 > 1
both of you are retarded. it had the worst twist, waifubaiting, predictable cases of the two.
>>344303595
>hey're dogshit VN's written by an untalented hack who cant write a coherent story to save his gook life so he resorts to using the absolute lamest copout in stories
So, Dangan ROnpa?
>>344310347
DR1 was mostly comprised of predictable cases
>>344310347
>predictable cases
Nigga, the first case of DR2 is more difficult than most cases in DR1.
>>344310535
MEAT ON THE BONE
>>344303595
This guy gets it
>>344310814
On the meat bone
AA > ZE > DR
Seriously, the story and mystery in DR is fucking garbage, and so is the gameplay with LE EPIC MINIGAMES during trials.
Trials are also predicable as fuck and the difficulty is literal babby's first mystery game.
The only good thing about Danganronpa are the characters and music, and that's it. The rest is shit.
>>344310535
>first case involves eating = culprit is some fat cook
>cases involves medical beds and shit = its the nurse
lol jesus the gimmick cases are real
AA trilogy > ZE trilogy > the rest of AA > DR
>people actually think DR has a good story/ending
>my face
>>344311212
>he thinks bootsrapped parodox baby with mind hacks and complex motives makes a better ending
im laffing
>>344311196
>first case involves a ball = the killer is the baseball player
>second case involves dressing rooms = the victim's the trap
Two can play this game.
>>344311196
gee whiz, DR murders are totally not predictable.
>>344311481
I'll give you case 3 of two, that case was a rushed mess due to the victims changing halfway trough production. Although it's hard to suspect her since she's been correct the first two times and has been loyal the first two cases.
>>344311410
>lol dude high school tits caused the apocalypse
>lol dude VR lmao and high school tits is back
>>344302668
I choose this
Ace Attorney is kinda shit now. The only good game after T&T has been AAI2.
Mainline is already fucked beyond repair and spin offs are NIPPON ONRY
Both DR are mediocre, the anime looks like it's going to blow. Maybe V3 won't disappoint
ZTD botched the ending but 999 and VLR are still pretty good games.
>>344312160
>Maybe V3 won't disappoint
its a budget anime that is aimed towards people who had played previous games, so of course it will disappoint.
>>344312686
V3 is the new game, DR3 is the new anime. Get your facts straight, anon.
I don't think I can choose between AA and ZE. ZTD was a little disappointing but the same is true of the later AA games as well. When I think of AA I really only think of the first three games, it should have ended there.
Danganronpa is just an AA rip off with ugly art, shitty characters and a woefully bad overarching plot. It's enjoyable if you turn your brain off but it can't stad up to the others. At least they have great soundtracks though.
>>344310002
>999
>better than anything
The fact that you can't use flowchart alone makes it worse than the other two.
>>344314516
>ZTD
>worse than 999
>>344314516
>>344314864
wow I meant better
i havent played zero escape but AA is too fucking good. the first 3 games at least, haven't played the others.
>>344302668
>>344315067
They're ok but the AA series was at its prime with the trilogy.
>>344311481
You can literally solve DR cases before the trails because the trails don't give you any new information. You could debate with people in real life instead and find the killer that way
>>344315181
I honestly liked DD,
just too much handholding
>>344314516
The fact that the other games need a fucking flowchart says a lot about how shit they are.
>>344302668
Zero Escape
I like all the time travel, Sci-fi, mindfucks, and memes. The puzzles are quite fun and the characters are pretty well written.
>>344307046
this seems like an obvious answer but do i need to play AAI1 before AAI2?
>>344314516
Fuck the flowchart
It literally ruins all the suspense there is. Also it allowed you to see which endings were going to be the most important ones ouright front. >>344314864
>>344302668
Phoenix Wright, is this even a question?
>>344302668
Ace Attorney> Zero Escape > Danganronpa
This isn't even a fucking contest.
>>344317995
Apollo and Clay totally did it.
I just want to point out how seamless AA made the transition into 3D while keeping the charm a 2D game would have.
DR > AA
let me tell you why
AA
>killer is 90% predectable
>the court won't end until you use every evidence, making easy to know when it's close to finish
>USING FUCKING MAGIC TO CHEAT ON CASES
>There's even a case where it was an accident
>Bullshit excuses to make every case of the game connect with each other, apollo justice got the most idiot story
>get casual at every new game
>only gets tricky around the end
DR
>No magic or supernatual or whatsoever
>You don't really use every evidence you gather
>Literally anyone could be the killer or get killed in the chapters
>They actual try to make you feel close to killed characters, making the case more exciting
>besides the killing, there's actually a backstory mistery to follow
>Each chapter has hard momments
I don't hate or dislike AA, I really love the series, but capcom has to drop the casual bullshit
>>344319445
>irrelevant fluff evidence being good
>anyone could be the killer
>backstory that is utter dogshit
You forgot DR is fucking babby difficulty and it's not challenging at all yet you think it's harder than AA.
Lmao
>>344319445
all killers in DR1 are fucking predictable. I don't know what you're talking about.
DR2 killers are also all predictable except maybe Peko and Chiaki
>>344320531
there's isn't much to do in AA
>press every argument
>protagonist will give you a big hint which one is
>think in the right evidence, which is the only hard moment, and show it into the hinted argument
meanwhile
>you got think and find which setence is the wrong one, or correct one that you should support
>now think if you should bullet it with evidence or someone's else support phase
DR got a more complex gameplay anon, It's not even a contest
>>344320995
how the fuck you guess out Gundham ?
I get twogami and Mikan but that's it
and yes, DR1 is fucking bullshit, I wrote the whole thing usind DR2 as example
>>344307287
Kill yourself
>>344321339
logic threads are garbage in DR. There isn't much to think about.
The contradictions are painfully obvious. At all times you already know what bullet you need once the argument starts, and they fill you up with irrelevant bullets or shit you already used. And yes, in mean difficulty.
AA requires deeper thinking and keeping up with the case. The contradictions require you to look at the evidence and connect the dots yourself.
>AA is one of my favorite series ever
>Danganronpa was OK, but it went a bit too much over the top for my tastes
>haven't played Zero Escape
>>344321339
>SO HOW WAS THE VICTIM MURDERED?!
>LOGIC DEBATE
>I THINK THE KILLER WAS HIT ON THE HEAD
>WAIT BUT THE MONOKUMA FILE SAYS THEY WERE STABBED!
And that's 99% of DR.
>>344302668
Danganronpa
Ace attorney fell in quality hard and I've never been able to get in to zero escape
>>344322347
>Ace attorney fell in quality
At least it had quality in the past, unlike DR.
>>344321498
>pre-murder mentions a room is soundproof
>Gundham got it
>he's awake during the murder anyway
That alone is red alert
I love the first four AA games, and PL v AA. Investigations was meh and Dual Destinies was a piece of shit.
I adore 999 and VLR, but ZTD, whilst entertaining, was very disappointing in a lot of ways.
Danganronpa's alright and is less so. I do not get the love for Danganronpa 2. What little I've played of Ultra Despair Girls is meh.
Out of all of them I pick Ghost Trick.
>>344321975
>AA requires deeper thinking and keeping up with the case.
what
also, the most important evidences in DR are only mentioned in the investigation, it's not even in your files or anything
you've got to remember everything you saw
AA has always someone spoon feeding you in the cases
>>344322319
>Prosecutor, how was the victim murdered?
>He was attacked with weapon X before doing Y and then dying
>But the report said he died instantly, your honor!
>shut up Defense, did I tell you to speak?
>5 testimonies later
>See? I've proven he died instantly
>oh fuck you're right lol
I can do it too
>>344302668
obviously Ace Attorney
>>344322756
If you think DR is hard or requires thinking then you haven't played many mystery novels.
DR is entry-tier. The difficulty and logic is pathetic.
>>344323156
>DR1
show me your A points at SDR2 anon
>>344323257
>>344323452
okay, you got that one
>>344323156
AA isn't particularly difficult either, and it has more moments where you know the answer, but not the one the game is looking for.
>>344323557
rekt
>AA
Investigations 2 > Trials and Tribulations > Dual Destinies > Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney > Investigations 1 > Phoenix Wright vs Professor Layton > Dai Gyakuten Saiban > Justice for All > Apollo Justice
>DR
DR2 > DR:AE > DR1
>ZE
VLR > ZTD > 999
>Overall
ZE > DR > AA
>>344323643
Problem is that DR gives you the correct evidence, and the filler bullets. But you get plenty of bullets irrelevant to the argument or bullets you already used, so it's easy to figure what bullet you actually need.
And when you need to absorb a bullet, it's because not a single bullet makes any sense. There isn't really much to it.
>>344324186
>DD that high
>AAI better than anything
Already disregarded your retarded opinion
>>344302668
Ronpa
Best crazy, best setting, best plot
>>344324382
AJ and JFA were both meh.
Dai Gyakuten Saiban and PLvsAA have some amazing OST and graphical use of the sprites, but the former is pretty shitty besides the third and fifth case and the latter shits the bed with the ending and explanation about the witches.
DD is overall better than PW (though both of them are very good). The bomb case is much better than the shitty prologue in AA, The last case (4&5 combined, since the DLC was supposed to be the third case) is one of the best in the entire series, DLC is great and it has multiple protagonists, each with their own gimmicks. Plus it kind of streamlines and make the investigations go by faster (which were BY FAR the worst part of the games).
Trials and Tribulations is an amazing game for the trilogy, but AAI2 is unbeatable in terms of character development, characterization, OST, all the cases are connected...
>>344304803
>Franziska is probably a Christmas cake by now
>>344308392
Kek, someone didn't play something.
>>344325156
You don't actually think AE is good, do you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dJlYXATQzA
DR just because of the music. I know that's for the new anime and not the games, but it's all quality.
>>344302668
Danganronpa by a landslide.
>Best post apocalyptic setting.
>Crazy twists which stays well within the setting's rules instead of ayyylmao and shit
>Dark humor and masterful OST
>Fantastic visual design
>Ridiculous characters
>Complex murder cases by the 2nd game
>>344323643
The worst was when I knew exactly what I wanted to present in the last question of the last case in Trials and Tribulations (where the murdered hid his wound?), but just couldn't figure out that the game wanted you to present the murderer's profile. Not that there were really any other sensible choices, but it just didn't really click on me and it doesn't feel any more logical in retrospective.
>>344325552
AE is a spinoff.
>>344325995
*murderer hid his wounds
>>344325995
I wish the game would've broken the form of presenting evidence/selecting an answer by having a spot selection a la DR2.
>>344317597
Not necessarily, but you should.
Some characters are introduced there and there are some good cases.
>>344325149
the hell is that supposed to mean?
DR is style over substance entry-tier trash with a terrible story and mystery.
Danganronpa.
>>344303431
THE ENDING IS UP TO THE PLAYERS IMAGINATION
I FUCKING HATE GAMES LIKE THIS
I can't choose between AA and DR, especially since new AA is boring and DR really captured my heart
>>344304230
>AJ>AA
There's wrong and then there's even more wrong. Guess where you stand
I'm going to marry Carlos!
>TFW you wanted to play 999 for a year but your DS is all but a brick and you have no charger
> TFW you see the game on IPhone for only 3 dollars
> TFW you play through it just to realize there's no puzzles
>TFW after you finish if you look it up and appearently the entire ending twist hinged on it being played on a DS with puzzles
man CMON
VLR coming to PC when
Only played the Ace Attorney games and 999.
Wasn't a fan of 999, I don't enjoy seeing characters I care dying over and over, it's basically videogame NTR.
Ace Attorney, easy.
>>344330480
>999 gameplay based on phone games
>phone game has no gameplay
>>344330480
If only there were emulators for the DS.
DR2 has my waifu in it, so I'll choose that.Fuck you, Naigto.
>>344329101
Ishimaru didn't die for this.
>>344331296
I hated the idea of 2d puzzle games using emulator controls
I was kinda delusional back then
>>344332279
Honestly, the only DS game I've tried to emulate and just had to stop was The World Ends With You. It's way too much to try controlling both screens on PC for me.
>>344302668
Nigga the choice here is obvious. Ace Attorney a best.
>>344302668
DR has Nagito
AA has Phoenix Wright
ZE has Dio
It's really hard to decide
>>344302668
AA
>top tier character development accross the board. Seeing Nick mature throughout the course of the OG trilogy is so satisfying
>artstyle is the perfect mix of anime and realism. The artists make each character look and move uniquely.
>murder cases are genuinely intriguing. The trials are filled to the brim with high points.
>The OSTs are fantastic
>There are plenty of moments when you know the answer but the MC doesn't. A bit annoying.
DR
>characters are either batshit insane, crippringly boring or complete morons. There is no in between but the good characters are REALLY good.
>trials in the first game are piss easy. The second's are a bit better but the MC is forcefed everything in both games.
>The music is on par with AA
>The class trial gimmicks can get annoying
>the endings are abominations of writing
AA wins
Here comes the dark horse
Art and Gameplay
VLR > 999 > ZTD
Story
999 > VLR > ZTD
Characters
VLR > ZTD > 999
Overall
VLR > 999 > ZTD
ZTD was pretty shitty
