What's your excuse for not playing on a CRT?
those are some sexy colors
I hear PAL gets better colors than NTSC-U. What about NTSC-J?
>>344300042
>60hz
Well, I was diagnosed with aspergers at ae 5, so I'm autistic, but I'm not quite THAT autistic.
but i do. i have three sony pvms that i got before prices were bananas.
>>344300042
Have one, need one for my buddy
>>344300390
CRTs can range from 75hz to 120hz
but i do
>>344301332
Why did you put a CRT into a microwave?
>>344300234
NTSC-J is still NTSC, just the black levels are different.
>>344301568
>>344301332
Do PVMs ever have audio ports? Always wanted to connect myBeatsto one.
>>344301568
>Sony PVM
>Skyblazer
I wish good things come your way.
I don't have TVs other than CRTs.
>>344301682
some pvms have speakers, no headphone outs typically, in those pictures i have a bvm and i have the audio from my snes go to shitty computer speakers, you could get a cheap headphone amp and run your consoles audio to that and then to your headphones.
Heat, size, cost by year.
Don't have one, and lugging one around in college would be dumb.
>>344301837
>BVM
>Skyblazer ROM on a flashcart
no good things coming my way i guess.
>>344301921
RCA or 3.5mm? Adapters could solve shit but I've been looking into DACs and amps anyway.
>>344301568
>Skyblazer
That's a good fucking game.
>>344300042
IT looks like horrible fuzzy shit, take your nostalgia eyeballs out.
I'd actually rather look at crisp clear jaggies and pixels than go back to fuzzy blurry images.
>>344302072
actually got an RCA to 3.5mm dongle.
excuse the cables everywhere.
>>344300042
>mfw
>>344300042
I don't have the nostalgia brain disease.
I have a pretty decent one my friend just gave to me before moving.
We had to play N64 MP rounds on an HD TV for years, and moving back to a crt is insanely better.
That said, I only play physical copies of games that don't emulate well these days.
Radiation Exposure.
>>344302274
CRTs don't photograph well...
>>344300042
blogish reasonThe high pitch sound it produces aggravates my constant headache condition. Can't even walk into stores that still use them for their security feeds
>>344302274
This. Fuck CRTs, I had CRTs until early 2010 and it was the worst shit. Sharp displays are a godsend.
>>344302485
>>344302349
Looks like the makings of a comfy setup.
because I have a 144Hz monitor instead
Because I have EMULATION.
I do
>>344300042
good luck finding one of those at a reasonable price if you live in yurop
>>344303059
>shadowmask crt
delete this
>>344300042
We had a CRT used primarily for video editing, really high end. Problem is that it weighed literally four hundred pounds. We left it there when we moved. I miss the clarity sometimes but honestly who wants to move that cumbersome thing around.
>>344300042
you know why you have glasses op? because that is literally an electron gun shooting radiation at your eyes
>>344303089
could be worse.
Why? Maybe it's because I play old PC games if I want to play older shit but most look fine on an LCD. If the resolution is too bad I just shrink the window.
>trying to get a crt for years
>no listings in my area from craigs list
>pawn shops and goodwills no longer carry them here
>all ebay listings are either in the hundreds or pick-up only
>>344303232
>If the resolution is too bad I just shrink the window.
enjoy straining your eyes.
>>344302765
you know how many mutations on your dna code it takes to complete fuck you up? just 1
>>344303089
Mine was below 100 EUR, shipping included.
>>344301837
>>344301682
That's a BVM you fucking dumbasses.
>>344300234
The colors depend on your display's phosphors and settings.
>>344303119
Only crt I could find being sold in my area after my sony trinitron fucking died on me
>>344303229
I-I mean germany ;-;
>>344302853
its good, i mostly use it for skyblazer, and playing super buster bros with friends. i want to incorporate it into my basement set up, but i like having it in my room aswell.
>>344303413
You are already a mutant.
>>344303293
>local listings always have five or ten Trinitrons ranging between $30 and "just come take it, shit's heavy and I want it gone"
>remember that flyback transformer squeal exists
>>344303638
Got pics of the basement setup?
>>344304058
that is the basement setup, the bvm pics i posted above are in my bedroom.
>>344303450
>>344302361
>Below 100 euro in Europe for a fucking Sony BVM/PVM
Where?
>>344303638
>nintendo shit
Kill yourself.
>>344304201
Oh. Well, it looks pretty cool.
>>344303615
That's actually not that bad. It's less expensive than most (desirable) games really. If you can't afford that, than I'm afraid you're poor - how old are you anyway?
>>344300042
No room for a decent sized one
Those fuckers are huge
>>344304331
eBay. A couple of years ago though and I might've been lucky, I'll admit that much.
>>344304424
it doesn't look cool tho
>>344304657
Looks fine from this angle.
>>344303450
dayum I love me some Demon Crest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50pvllNNctA
An ABC affiliate here in was Aus were clearing out old studio PVMs for free a few years back. I got another but the screen was cracked up the right side of the monitor.
im not poor
>>344304424
ty
>>344304657
i hope you have a comfy set up.
>>344302274
>>344302704
CRTs are only good for games that were designed around them. So, both 2D and 3D games up to the fifth gen, and to a slightly lesser extent, the sixth gen.
>>344300042
I'm not autistic.
Is that a microwave
what do you need to hook up a console to them to look it's best?
>>344302765
Imagine being in the walking ghost phase. You feel fine but you KNOW that in two weeks your cells will start to stop working, your intestines will literally disintegrate and your whole body will fall apart, you'll die painfully.
That#s the worst thing about radiation poisoning.
>implying I didn't play all worthwhile games on a CRT a hundred times before you were born and can just remember what it was like
>>344304901
>>344305008
You don't know what you're missing.
>>344302485
All the more reason to
>tfw no 1080p CRT monitor
>>344304428
22
and nah i am not poor.
just not looking out to spend too much money on a pvm (since i already tried it last year) that one came borked.
>>344305623
1080i WEGA Trinitrons though
I have this Trinitron
32"
it's so god damn heavy when I move I think I'll just leave it
theres a bunch of PVM's in NYC for sale I might just pick one of those up
>>344305750
>one million metric tons
>>344305623
>>344300042
What's your excuse for being such a colossal hipster faggot?
>>344305852
>he's not a stronk manly women
I play a ton of rock band 3 pro drums and the zero latency with crt is a godsend, as for audio I just use a soundbar with fiber optics
>>344305865
it gets me laid
>>344305865
a normalfag emulates
a hipster gets a retron 5 and hooks it up to an HDTV
a nerd gets a CRT
a turbonerd gets a PVM
>>344306364
whats wrong with a retron 5
Is it worth getting a PVM for some Dreamcast gamin?
>>344303413
yea and you could more likey blame that on all the dorritos and mountain dew you consume, or the sneak radon gas under your floors
>>344306530
Nothing, he just had to call people hipsters
>>344300042
Fucking broke on me when I unplugged it.
>>344305746
Did you at least get your money back? Also, 130 EUR is a really low amount for just about anything - just saying.
>>344306530
>>344306724
>blurry image quality
>introduces input lag when there was none before
Any CRTs that don't weigh a metric ton?
>>344307158
anything 27 inches and below you should be able to carry by yourself with no issues. If you're going for say a 37 incher those are 230 pounds
>>344306532
You know the saying; if you have to ask... Seriously, though - a good CRT will be good enough for most cases. A PVM is really useful if you need something that can handle lots of different formats and has lots of ports and options.
>>344307037
I don't think it's the retron5 introducing lag I think its the lcd screen
and it only has hdmi output
and its a digital signal
also it basically dumps the rom from the cartridge and then plays it via emulation
>>344300042
Plasma flat panel display > CRT
That's why.
>>344307018
if you earn 500-550 it isn't.
No i didn't but i did get around 30-50 euros back (the pvm was still working but the plastic casing of it was shattered) a month later it died.
>>344307158
Tiny ones, yes
>>344308418
Aw, the tripfag thinks he's relevant.
I just have it for light gun games.
>falling for the pvm/bvm meme
I am playing on CRT though.
Own PVM-14L4 and 14 inch consumer Trinitron.
If only decent SCART / BNC switches were cheaper, so I could organize a setup.
>>344308824
search for Extron Crosspoint 8X4 RGBHV
should dampen your needs on bnc switching
for SCART you need to import that shit out of yurop or make your own
>>344308523
I'm gonna sound like an asshole here, but 550 EUR per month (I presume) means you're really, REALLY poor. How do you even pay rent or afford a car at that level?
Playing ISS Deluxe or Tecmo Super Bowl in a setup like those would be sweet but buying all that stuff is too much of a hassle. Back to FIFA/NFL 16 I go.
>>344308803
Okay, what's a better alternative to this "meme"?
>>344309198
Just getting a decent consumer set like the devs intended people to play on. People who mod shit like Genesis or NES for RGB are fucking retarded.
>>344308824
>SCART / BNC switches
What do you mean, switches? Don't you connect your SNES or whatever directly to the PVM with a mechanical adapter?
>>344300042
>playing on a small ass crt
nigga i never threw away my crts
they huge!
>>344300042
trying to avoid unnecessary blasts of radiation
>>344309136
>NEET
>>344309375
You do realise that CRTs are shielded, right?
>>344308824
You can get BNC to SCART adapters for fair prices on ebay from the US
Try retrogamingaccessories
are PVM/BVMs high res enough to use for 6 gen consoles? or should I just use a nicer trinitron
>>344309121
I am in Europe though.
All SCART switches available locally are shit.
Extron is great, but shipping it from the US is like 400 USD. I know it's heavy, but still.
There is Extron VGA switch locally, and it supports rgbs (so I can make custom cables), but it only has 4 inputs.
>>344309338
I want to connect all my consoles and switch between them at will. To multiple outputs.
>>344309443
Are you the guy I was replying to? You know, the one who said he wasn't poor?
>>344309583
remember that they proved they added gamma radiation to addict people to television in the 1930s
>>344309313
These people have more love for modding their tvs than the actual games their so desperatly trying to play anyway.
>TFW CRT is dead
>TFW FED and SED are stillborn
>TFW plasma is dead
>TFW LCD sucks ass, but will not die
>TFW OLED starts to die instantly you start it up
Life is horrible.
>>344309758
i found one on ebay a week ago (extron switcher) guy was selling it for around 40-60 euros.
>>344309758
>I want to connect all my consoles and switch between them at will. To multiple outputs.
Haven't thought about that, makes sense.
>>344309313
Mega Drive outputs RGB without any modd though?
What did he mean by this??
>>344309774
Yes and it was a joke
it is called an apprenticeship.
>>344300042
Hard to find around where I live.
>>344309806
>>344300042
>hoarding your old shit that is objectively better emulated in 1080p with a choice of filter
I feel bad that you can't let go of your old stuff. It's not cool and nobody is impressed that you still have your super nintendo and play on some shitty crt. I would say enjoy your radiation-driven cancer, but you already are the cancer.
>>344309858
I'll keep on looking for some deal, thanks.
>>344310226
Thanks, doc.
>>344310226
Thanks doc
>>344300042
it's the size of a microwave and gives off similar heat.
Can these things cook hot pockets?
>>344302064
>Not owning a legit copy of Skyblazer
>>344310010
Well, you know, Poe's law and shit. Anyway, I forgot you're only 22 so it makes sense, I guess. Also, you probably need to hurry if you plan on getting a semi-cheap CRT/PVM because good specimens will get more expensive the longer you wait.
>>344302274
>That
>Fuzzy
Pretty much only for melee though
>>344309968
NES and N64 don't support RGB natively though
CRTs are basically an electron cannon that you should not sit in front of.
>>344304959
Not all CRTs are good, the only ones that mattered came towards the end of the life cycle of the CRT and cost an arm and a leg. Half of these ended up in dumps. Which are in the 2000-2004 range, the last iteration of CRT was only shown and never sold. CRTs below the year 2000 can contain an assortment of toxic materials.
>>344310710
>I WILL BELIEVE EVERYTHING THAT IS STATED HUEHUEHUE
it is shielded.
>>344309313
>Legitimately looks better
>Good chunk of retro consoles can natively do RGB
>>344300042
I'd love to make a comfy retro corner with all my old consoles and a crt, but I don't have enough room.
>>344300042
How do you connect scart and component cables to these tv's?
Gaming retro on HD TVs and monitors is fine too, as long as you don't mind shelling out 250+$ for an XRGB Mini Framemeister and have a TV/Monitor with low input lag.
>>344310990
>missing out on all the graphical effects in NES, Genesis, SNES, and even PS1 games that intentionally used the blurriness of composite video to their advantage
Have fun with your checkerboard patterns and lack of dithering.
>>344310878
It's not shielded on most models. There's only a few CRT monitors out there that are shielded and came towards the end of the cycle. Almost all of the CRT TVs they use for smash tournaments were made before shielding or proper nontoxic paint.
I play PS2 and systems earlier on a CRT. Shit is cash
>>344310529
Yeah, sad that they are unable to ship the 20-30 inchers. I would much rather have a 20m2e PVM sitting on my desk than a 14m4e
>mfw only decent crt I could find for my snes was a shitty 2006 rca
>>344310878
>electrons are blocked by a piece of glass
>>344309828
>TFW OLED starts to die instantly you start it up
OLED will be the new CRT. 180° viewing angle, perfect blacks, and dies as you use it. The only thing it won't do is not look like shit at non-native resolutions.
>>344310607
>Sm4sh controller
Get rid of it
Those things are fucking awful
still have some shitty sanyo from 10 years ago
image is a bit crooked but it works
I can use a CRT shader in retroarch.
Granted I'm not getting the other benefits of a CRT, but the games look fine. CRT-royale on a 4k display looks great.
A good CRT would be better but this method is cheaper and much more convenient.
>>344311143
don't do this if you are expecting a plug and play experience. it certainly isn't ( I have one)
>>344309806
gamma radiation addiction
>>344310706
Modding N64 for RGB is extremely easy.
If I managed to do it, everyone can.
I'm not stuck 20 years in the past.
>>344304828
>Dracula X
nigga
>>344311168
ALL PVM's/BVM'S are properly shielded
Lack of space.
I plan to eventually get a decent CRT for older shit, but that might be a few years out.
>>344310607
why would it even matter when input lag is programmed into the game itself.
>>344311379
How much does the chip cost (if any), and how much soldering do you need to do?
>>344311242
>mfw the volume buttons on the tv change the channel
I do if it's appropriate. I actually have seven CRTs hooked up in my house between me and my roommate.
>>344311253
I got top 32 at GOML with a Smash4 controller. Although I replaced the triggers which apparently is the only issue with them
>>344311452
A little bit of lag is better than a shit ton on dolphin or something
>>344311561
All of the buttons are sticking on mine and the analog has stick drift
Its becoming really hard to do normal tech skill things with falco
Top 32 in what, smash flash 2?
Are there any companies still making CRTs for sale in Europe or the US?
>>344311250
How about input lag?
>>344302361
where you guys get those sony monitors? What's the best place to get them?
I have a Wega that's like 14 inches or so. It actually looks pretty nice, but i still want more.
>>344311720
Woops im a dumbass, top 32 melee. I didn't compete in any of the others. Huh I haven't encountered any of those issues yet, I have a backup controller just in case though.
>>344311752
No. When all the old CRTs are hard to find because people threw them away it will be a new market to capitalize on. Not now when they cost $5 to literally nothing though.
>>344311752
no, but they were the only used TV for over 40 years so they are plenty to go around, even if a lot were trashed.
>>344311506
http://retrorgb.com/n64rgb.html
Whole job - less than 5 dollars and one hour if you take your time.
>>344311994
Your best bet is to get them locally as they're expensive to ship and can be damaged easily during transport. Look around on craigslist and ebay.
Yesterday I went to the recycling centre to throw away a 46" CRT. It was heavy as fuck and I was glad to get rid of it.
>>344303229
>>344303615
>CRT's are already reaching vintage status.
I regret dumping mine at the recycling center 10 years ago now.
>tfw CRT tv with component only input
>>344312001
I've had this since it came out in 2014, and use it a decent amount
Also, whats your name? I doubt a random guy from /v/ got top 32 in a national
>>344312124
Nice. Problem is, if you've never soldered before or even have soldering equipment, like me, you'd want to know exactly what you're doing so you don't fuck it up.
>>344312174
thanks. i'll try. Yeah, shipping via ebay seemed iffy.
>>344312194
>46"
nobody wants those 250 pound behemoths anyway you did good
>>344312274
If you look at the standings I got 3-0'd by DJ Nintendo in losers so I just barely scraped by, (The tag is Kyle)
>>344312671
46" CRT
jesus are you /fit/ or something?
>>344311943
That goes along with the last point. At native resolution it should have zero input lag. This is great with modern consoles that have 1080p output. When displaying anything other than 1080p (or 4K for high-end models) there will be input lag from the scaler. Any analog video will also introduce lag from deinterlacing.
i still have my old big ass trinitron.
its nice and all but weighs a fuck ton
>>344300848
i found one of those at a garage sale for $5 a few years back, fixed it up so it functions properly but sadly i am missing the two gyros and the spinner for the gyros.
>>344304340
Fuck off retard
>>344300042
In the last 4 years you fucks have made bvm/pvm's super fucking expensive.
I'm not a yuro, RGB is no longer easy.
>>344312563
Therr are N64 RGB amp PCBs made by enthusiasts, but these solutions still require soldering.
In this case I'm sorry, look up for a modder in your area I guess?
Also learning soldering is totally worth it.
>>344301325
The games all sync at 60hz, regardless.
People only hate CRTs because they only had cheap old shit and connected everything with RF or composite.
i live in the middle of nowhere so it can be hard to find things like PVMs but luckily it also means less competition for some pretty cool shit like steel battalion.
>>344313265
I'm pretty sure there's a difference, it's why so many people lowered their resolution and upped their refresh rate back in the day
>>344312739
>but weighs a fuck ton
Pretty sure you don't need to carry your TV to play games on it.
>>344313179
I do want to learn soldering, but obviously I do need to do research on what kit I should get first, then I need to practice on something less valuable than my N64. Don't doubt it'll be worth it in the end, but it all takes learning, practice and time.
>>344311157
Have fun with your crap colors, blurry image, color bleed, etc.
>>344300042
I don't want to accidentally fuck up this worldline
>>344313519
>not gaming on the go with your crt
>>344313313
This. Throwing my POS 32-inch CRT TV into a trashbin two stories down was great. Meanwhile I'm sitting at my computer with a 19" NEC MultiSync monitor. Good CRTs are good, the rest belong in the trash.
>>344312671
>>344312723
The largest CRT ever made was 40 inches and that weighed over 400lbs.
>>344300042
because i own a computer
I just emulate on my PC because I don't give a shit.
>>344314095
CRT monitors are a thing
>>344302361
You're yuroclap right? Do I have to find a european PVM to make it work with pal consoles or does it not matter where I get it from?
![azo0l[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/r7DqR6j.jpg "azo0l[1].jpg")
>>344305623
Mine. 1536p85 but I usually do 1440 at 90.
Gun's just not as bright as it used to be though, and these high res crts fucking suck for retrogaming at anything below 480p.
>>344314562
PVMs usually accept both 50 and 60hz, but make sure before you buy of course
>>344313484
PC games could scan at higher refresh rates, you're sol on consoles.
>>344314959
>you're sol on consoles
But of course
>>344314562
I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter - mine can do NTSC and PAL just fine.
>>344313379
very old picture but it shows off how that crt handles colors when using component.
>>344315250
and here is a composite example on the same tv
My N64, Dreamcast, and PS2 are all hooked up to CRTs.
