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I will now describe each Final Fantasy with three words.
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>FF1: Good D&D ripoff
>FF2: Ambitious but flawed
>FF3: FF5 is better
>FF4: A solid foundation
>FF5: Gilgamesh is fun
>FF6: Awesome first half
>FF7: Probably the best
>FF8: Same orphanage lol
>FF9: Bland and forgettable
>FF10: Last good one
>FF10-2: Yuna's an idol?
>FF12: Ye Olde Shite
>FF13: Atrocious horse shit
>FFT: Actually fucking amazing
>BD: Overrated but solid
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GREEN PUBES
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>>344293515
>D&D ripoff
Except the part where it has no roleplaying at all
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That's nice.
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Do you dislike World of Ruin? Explain.
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>bland and forgettable
How about, kill yourself faggot
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>>344293785
Neat Nice Memerino
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>>344294259
Learn to write a proper OP post first
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>>344294332
There are 8 posts and 7 IPs in this thread my man

Swing and a miss
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what about crisis core
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>>344294063
Nice taste m80.
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Tina is cute CUTE
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>>344293515
>As described by someone on the outside looking in.
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Ff4: Austin powers gold member with drama
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terra is literally the best final fantasy character
LITERALLY
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>>344293515
>FF6: Awesome first half
more like shit """protagonist""" of the first half so they decided to split the story in two and put Celes as MC of second half
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>>344293807
I like the original world better just because green forest areas are my favorite scenery. But no I do not dislike World of Ruin, still fun and I like the idea how Kefka reached his goal and won
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celes is literaly lightning
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Way better than Terra
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>>344299970

As a person, who only dislikes Celes in the party: No, she is not remotely that bad. Torched a city state though (Maranda), the depressive cunt. Paine and Ashe are closer to Lightning.
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>>344293620
Did someone say GREEN?
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>>344302492
MARRY ME
BEST SUMMONER
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>>344293515
Did you add a shitty filter to pic related like an idiot tumblrite? Also,
>still thinking X > XIII
Objectively wrong, fucktard
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>>344293785
He means it's clearly a D&D campaign in video game form autismo.
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>>344293515
>FF7: Probably the best
>FF12: Ye Olde Shite
>FFT: Actually fucking amazing
Why don't you just say "DO I FIT IN YET /V??"
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>>344293515
I thought you had good taste, until what you said for 7.

You don't have good taste, and you don't deserve to like 5.
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>>344293515
i want to smell Trance Terra's sweet asshole
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SaGa/Romancing/Frontier/Unlimited > FF/BD
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>the last good one
>actually fucking amazing
Just in case you were wondering if it's bait or not, OP contradicts his own bullshit.
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>>344293515
>>FF6: Awesome first half
The first half of 6 is fucking awful. All that backtracking and splitting up characters along with the retardedly slow pace of the story is dogshit.

2nd half is at least interesting.
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>>344293515
>Yuna's an idol?

How, after over a decade, do people still think that was Yuna in the opening?
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>>344302949
Go back to /jrpgg/ and talk about how #FE is a masterpiece because it didn't sell as well as other games
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>>344293515
>hating FFXII

How to spot shit taste 101
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>>344293807
Not him but everyone can agree WoB > WoR I think. It was just a lot better paced, had a pretty good difficulty curve, and there was actually a plot. Admittedly it's linear as all hell (but I don't believe that's a bad thing by any stretch) and WoR makes up for lack of plot by focusing on character development, but the WoR still had tons of problems regardless. I think the biggest problem with WoR however is all semblance of challenge is thrown at the window. The floating island in WoB was pretty fucking brutal if you didn't know what you were doing and yet nothing in WoR can really compare. It's almost entirely due to the amazing weapons, armor, relics, and espers you can find in the WoR that aren't even all that rare and the fact that NONE of the bosses can compensate for the fact that you have like two characters both wielding Genji Gloves + Offering relics or how all of your characters can spam Ultima and win.
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>>344303691
tactics came out before X
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>>344303691

So you think fft came out after ffx.

You just played yourself.
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>>344303691
Final Fantasy Tactics came out before Final Fantasy 10 you fucking idiot.
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>>344304180
People here complain about how Final Fantasy IX constantly get its dick sucked but it's really XII fags that are the problem.
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>>344301143

GOAT tier taste.
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I don't care anyone says, Sabin suplexing a train is still fucking hilarious.
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>>344293515
>that tummy
>those thighs
and i JUST fapped, op. jeeze..
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>>344305451
No doubt about that
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>>344293515
>FF7: Probably the best
Opinion discarded.
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>>344305451
>>344305620
Let's not forget that not only did he do this while RUNNING from the train, but he also leaped like 50 feet in the air and flip it upside down while doing it.
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>>344305451
>>344305620
thats pretty fuckin radical
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u84cH_bmTA

Best FF game.
Right next to FFV of course.
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Who is the strongest FF protag and why is it pic related?
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>>344293620
>>344302492
>>344302589
green pubes
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>>344305974
>I dared him to suplex the train
>And he did it, the mad man!
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>>344305451

Hell yeah. That whole Phantom Forest/Train section was great and the fight was really fun.
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>>344307195
An edit with Sabin, Cyan, and Shadow does exist, right?
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I was born in 1997, so I didn't get to play the older FF games.

The first one I played was 12, and I fucking loved it.

13 was good too, I really liked the music and the cinematics.

Tried to play 7 and 8 because of the hype, but i couldn't stomach the horrible graphics, so I dropped them.

6 was kind of good, but it was too hard and kind of boring.

I can't wait for 15 !!
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>>344307621
>but i couldn't stomach the horrible graphics
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>>344307370
FFVI was before the current generation was old enough to even know what "Nintendo" was.
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>>344307621
>Being a graphics whore
>Thinking 6 was difficult
>Thought 13 was good
18+
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>>344307621
stop
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>>344307856
he probably didn't have any shitty preconceptions like you faggots did before playing it which why he found it to be nice
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>>344307986
>he probably didn't have any shitty preconceptions like you faggots did before playing it which why he found it to be nice
Even people whose first final fantasy was 10 thought it was fucking garbage.
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only played FFVI, just wondering how does it compare in difficulty to other FF games?

Because I can't see how anyone over the age of 3 could have any difficulty with that game
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Imo 6 is actually better than 7

I think that I could even play 7 with a blindfold.
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I've played FFX and FFVII, what should my next FF be?
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>>344293515

>FF2: Ambitious but flawed
Can be said about every FF game.
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>>344308631

FFIV DS, VI, VIII or Theathrythm
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>>344308631
A friend of mine keeps talking about how much he loved 4 or 5, so my guess is either would probably do. Don't play 8 unless you're fine with shit getting wilder than Mr Bones' Wild Ride and a shitty card-game that can't decide on what its rules are. 9, from limited experience and what others have said, is questionable.

3 and below are pretty hit and miss depending on your tastes iirc.

Dissidia is a glorified fighting game.

Tactics and Tactics Advanced are apparently the undisputed God-tier of FF games.
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Yes.
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>>344308942

>Don't play 8 unless you're fine with shit getting wilder than Mr Bones' Wild Ride and a shitty card-game that can't decide on what its rules are.
The story in FFVIII is no more stupid than FFIV, VII, X, XII, XIV and etc. And you just outed yourself for not even understanding Tripe Triad. Not the best card game ever, but you still should have been able to figure out what the rules are. Plus, you can make sure it only keeps the rules you want to use.
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>>344309465
>The story in FFVIII is no more stupid than FFIV, VII, X, XII, XIV and etc
It goes from a literal "there's this evil sorceress we have to assassinate before she fucks shit up" to "LOL WE'RE ALL FROM THE SAME ORPHANAGE AND ALSO SPACE LIONS"
>And you just outed yourself for not even understanding Tripe Triad. Not the best card game ever, but you still should have been able to figure out what the rules are
Confirmed for being too fucking stupid to know that the rules are based on region in-game, that nobody uses a consistent rule-base EVER anyways, and that there is a game mode which randomizes the fucking rules.
>Plus, you can make sure it only keeps the rules you want to use
LEL
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>>344309937
>9 is king
>Not 10, 12, 8, or zero from 7
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>>344309937
that's a really fat dragon
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>>344293515
> d&d ripoff

Millenials don't know anything about dq existing before ff. Ff was influenced by dq which was influenced by d&d
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>>344293515
>Not rating the MMOs

List discarded. Even though the word "MMO" will scare people off, if you actually put in the time to at least try them, you'd realise that 11 and 14 are fantastic FF games in their own right, probably 2 of the best infact.
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>>344309836

>It goes from a literal "there's this evil sorceress we have to assassinate before she fucks shit up" to "LOL WE'RE ALL FROM THE SAME ORPHANAGE AND ALSO SPACE LIONS"

And FFIV, VII and X have just as bad, if not worse plot twists.

FFIV: Everyone is being used by a guy on the moon; Cecil and Golbez are decendants from the moon; everyone dies lol just kidding....but no really, Tellah dies

FFVII: Shinra is bad; no wait, Jenova is bad; no wait, Rufus is bad; no wait, Sephiroth is bad; no wait, the Turks are bad; no wait, Mojo is responsible for everything; just kidding it was Sephiroth all along

FFX: Its 'Tidus' story', except for 90% of the game focuses on Yuna; in the end, all you needed was Tidus to learn he wasn't real and fight his father; lol you just wasted 30 hours on a story that could have been done 2 hours in if Tidus didn't fall off the Al Bhed boat

I'm not going to defend the Orphanage and time compression in FFVIII because they are stupid. But singling out FFVIII and not pointing out how its practically a tradition for FF to fuck their stories up in the second half is just stupid.
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FF6 is only FF i enjoyed.
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>>344310558
>FFVII: Shinra is bad; no wait, Jenova is bad; no wait, Rufus is bad; no wait, Sephiroth is bad; no wait, the Turks are bad; no wait, Mojo is responsible for everything; just kidding it was Sephiroth all along
>What is escalation and logical progression through a coherent narrative
Sephiroth was revealed as the big bad since the mid-point of the first disc, and probably earlier. The canon also didn't exonerate Shinra and it's owner from the bullshit they pulled, but the games themselves focused on the most immediate threat i.e. THE FUCKING METEOR WE DON'T WANT TO CRASH INTO THE PLANET
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FFX: Its 'Tidus' story', except for 90% of the game focuses on Yuna; in the end, all you needed was Tidus to learn he wasn't real and fight his father; lol you just wasted 30 hours on a story that could have been done 2 hours in if Tidus didn't fall off the Al Bhed boat
12 does the same with Ashe and whatshisface. And again, escalation and logical progression. Why was Zanarkand such a taboo to talk about publicly? Why was the world so different from what Tidus remembered? Why was the blitzball "handshake" now a way to greet persons of the highest authority? What the fuck is "Sin" and why do we need to destroy it?

I'm not even justifying the bullshit of either game, but goddamn. There is a difference between a coherent narrative with escalation and then there is a goddamn mess with no concept of what "logical progression" means.
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>>344310204
>le FF ripped off DQ meme
Stop
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>>344311723

>What is escalation and logical progression through a coherent narrative
Something Final Fantasy does not do well. As was the entire point of my post. Both FFVII and X throw a huge amount of filler at you to deflect from what the story is really about and to pad out the games. Its not cohesive, just like FFVIII isn't. Its deflection, the exact opposite of cohesive. Because if FF games stuck to their story with no deviations, they'd be about as long as a 2 hour movie. Which is exactly what they try to emulate.
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>>344312049

Not that guy. But it did. Sakaguchi specificaly said he made FF to be the 'antithesis of Dragon Quest'. That is, taking insperation from DQ, but trying to do the opposite of it. In the end however, he borrowed more elements than he reversed.
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>>344312213
Remember to, that FF1 was released only 2 months before DQ3, which shits all over FF1
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>>344310558
>Mojo is responsible for everything; just kidding it was Sephiroth all along
No, Hojo was pretty much responsible for everything. It was just Sephiroth that decided to summon Meteor.

Possibly unpopular opinion but every other villain in FFVII was better than Sephiroth.
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>>344293515
>13 bad
>12 bad
>but 10 good

Opinion discarded and irrelevant forever.
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>>344310558
It's not just the orphange thing that was an issue.
It was the fact the sniper guy was the only one who could remember the whole thing, but never said anything because "it would be awkward." Like, fucking hell.
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>>344312445
Yeah it really was hojo. Even without shinra funding he would still be doing his little experiments. Most likely would have just taken him longer.
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>>344312445

I know Mojo was responsible (in part with his mentor). But after defeating Mojo, the game just acts like Sephiroth is still the major villain. Which is another example of a FF story falling in on itself. Much like how you defeat Jecht and Seymour in FFX, but still have to fight a pointless Yu Yevon fight.
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>>344312078
> Both FFVII and X throw a huge amount of filler at you to deflect from what the story is really about and to pad out the games
Give an example from both 7 and 10 where this is even remotely true.
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>>344312592

Trust me, I agree with you. Just pointing out that plenty of other FF games have just as dumb of plot twists. I mean, FFIV is full of characters who are stronger than Cecil and Golbez. But the plot makes them sit around and do nothing.
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>>344312806

Can you not read what I wrote up at >>344310558

FFVII: Shinra, The Turks, a dozen petty problems you have to take care of before the actual plot triggers bring you back on course

FFX: All of Yuna and Seymours story is a deflection from the main story, which is about Tidus stopping the cycle that Jecht couldn't stop.
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>>344312847
Overall, FF as a series is full of dumb shit. Still fun games, but hot damn, do the stories get weirder and weirder.
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>>344312213
>>344312316
3, 5, and the Monster games are the only good Dragon Quest games. Also Final Fantasy 1 was far superior to Dragon Quest 1 and 2 combined.
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>>344312710
>the game just acts like Sephiroth is still the major villain
"Hey, that scientist guy caused Sephiroth to be Jenova incarnate, so we toasted his ass. Oh, but that Sephiroth asshole is STILL around, and now he's got the materia that will dump a giant fucking rock on our heads UNLESS we make haste and slap his shit, too."
>Much like how you defeat Jecht and Seymour in FFX, but still have to fight a pointless Yu Yevon fight.
Disappointment that was Yu Yevon aside, Sin is stated as being controlled by Yu Yevon itself. The fucking lore establishes that Yu Yevon created Sin to protect Zanarkand AND as a final "fuck you" to Beville. Jecht wasn't even a villain so much as he was being controlled/used as a main power source for Sin.

Seymour was NEVER the main villain. He was a two-bit side villain/annoying boss that existed purely to show up, spout some asinine shit about how death is totally cool and everyone should do it, then get his shit slapped. He was the anti-thesis to Yuna's inner conflict.
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>>344293515

Pretty good.

Although I would switch IX with Tactics. :P
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>>344313294
>as a final "fuck you" to Beville
which is hilarious when you remember that Sin just ended up destroying Zanarkand anyway
Yu Yevon was a dumbass
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>>344313294

>Seymour was NEVER the main villain. He was a two-bit side villain/annoying boss that existed purely to show up, spout some asinine shit about how death is totally cool and everyone should do it, then get his shit slapped.
So he was a giant distraction that the story threw in to pad it out another 15 hours. Thanks for proving my point.
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>>344313082
>FFVII: Shinra, The Turks, a dozen petty problems you have to take care of before the actual plot triggers bring you back on course
Except the main plot NEVER deviates far enough from the main conflict for that to be an issue. Just because you have the attention span of a fucking teaspoon doesn't mean the issues you think are in the story, actually are. Cloud and co are wanted criminals by the end of the first disc and Shinra Jr understandably wants to eliminate them AND Sephiroth at the same time. It also doesn't look good on for your PR if your company, having its own military/police force makes no attempt at kidnapping the "terrorists" and bringing them to justice.
>FFX: All of Yuna and Seymours story is a deflection from the main story, which is about Tidus stopping the cycle that Jecht couldn't stop.
You claimed in your original post that the game focused solely on Yuna, so I'm not even going to bother here.
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>>344313137

You're welcome to your opinion. But god damn.
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Also, I personally disagree that XII was bad, OP, I feel the voice acting was mind blowing. (For a FF game anyway.)

Glad that the remaster with X2 and X4 speeds is coming.
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>>344310204
FF ripped off DQ that ripped off Wizardry and Ultima that ripped off D&D.
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>>344313703

>You claimed in your original post that the game focused solely on Yuna
I said 90% of the game focuses on Yuna while the remainder is Tidus' Story, which is suppose to be the actual story. Seymour was tied into Yuna's 'story', which was essentially world building and filler. Which ultimately had nothing to do with the end of the game aside from having to get through Seymour to get to Jecht.
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>1
Flawed, but a solid place for the series to start
>2
Extremely flawed gameplay, but still holds a special place in my heart. Plus, the story & music were bretty gud
>3
Both versions are absolute shite.
>4
Would probably be my favorite if not for the bullshit "Were dead loljk not really"
>5
Pretty damn good and extremely underrated
>6
Balance and pacing is fucked, but its still fun and bnw exists anyway
>7
Fast paced fun & customization, with my only flaw being the overworld character models
>8
Once you get past the junctioning and draw mechanics, probably the most fun ive had with an rpg
>9
SLOOOOOOOOOOOW but good.
>10
Battles are fun, story and music is good, everything else is just meh, though
>11
Really regretting that I didn't play this one.
>12
Great visuals, okay story, gameplay is a bit simple. Looking forward to zodiac age.
>13
Pfft.
>14
Only played arr, which was fun. Also To the sun is the best overworld theme in the game, every other opinion is discarded.
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>>344313720
Dragon Quest is really a mediocre series at best. It's definitely consistent, but not great.
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>>344313823
Which ripped off playing pretend wizard in your backyard which ripped off the middle ages.
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>>344313542
>which is hilarious when you remember that Sin just ended up destroying Zanarkand anyway
>Yu Yevon was a dumbass
Dream Zanarkand existed way the fuck out in the middle of the ocean. If a ship got too close, Sin would fuck its shit up. The only thing keeping it in existence was the fayth (the spirits who bestow aeons, and what the aeons are made from goddamn this is some convoluted shit) who asked Tidus to just end their dreaming.
>>344313601
> He was the anti-thesis to Yuna's inner conflict.
Congrats on completely disregarding the entire fucking post.
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>>344313823

You forgot D&D ripped off Warhammer and Tolkien. And Tolkien ripped off Mythology. And mythology is Aliens.

So we were playing SciFi all along!
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>>344314001

Okay. Realize that some people say the same about FF. That's the good thing about opinions though. They're not facts.
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>>344314126
>Realize that some people say the same about FF.
FF is the opposite of consistent anon.
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>>344314018

>Congrats on completely disregarding the entire fucking post.
You keep ignoring large swaths of my posts so oh well.
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i've literally never played a final fantasy game and enjoyed it. i wish i could. thinking about trying 9 because that one looks interest but then again i never enjoyed any of the classic snes/nes ones either. maybe XV will break the curse but probably not
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>>344314262

I was pointing to your comments about DQ being mediocre and only having three good games. I hear the exact same thing from FF fans about their own series.
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>>344314001
Aside from the fact that it isn't, claiming that 3 5 and Monsters are the only good games is idiotic.
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>>344303691
teehee
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>>344313907
>I said 90% of the game focuses on Yuna while the remainder is Tidus' Story, which is suppose to be the actual story.
Nowhere is this stated to be true. The story focuses on Yuna and her inner conflict, and the people who help her come to her decision to go against tradition despite the risk.
>Seymour was tied into Yuna's 'story', which was essentially world building and filler.
FFX established what the recreational pass-time is, who the highest authority were, and then introduced a "wild card" factor that later became the anti-thesis to Yuna's beliefs.
>Which ultimately had nothing to do with the end of the game aside from having to get through Seymour to get to Jecht.
The entirety of Seymour's character and his arc involved the rejection of tradition and a radical perspective on how the rest of Spira should proceed. It's even established within the story that each cycle is getting shorter and the Maester's are pretty damn concerned because it will get to a point where widespread panic is common. Hence why they drink the hypocritical kool-aid and ask the Al Bhed to stage a theater against Sin that ends horribly.
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>>344314310
>You keep ignoring large swaths of my posts so oh well.
Except I'm repeating myself constantly to a 13yo cunt-faced faggot who can't manage to pay attention for more than 5 seconds and has the reading comprehension of a low-income nigger who dropped out after Kindergarten.

Fucking kill yourself.
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>>344314435
The only other DQ games that are almost good tier are 4 and 8. I only consider them okay games because I really don't like the pacing of the game and 8 is too generic but admittedly a well designed kind of generic.
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>>344314770
Lolis are for hugging, not for fugging.
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>>344314860
>I only consider them okay games because I really don't like the pacing of the game
Referring to 4 by the way.
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>>344293515
>3 words
>Good dungeons and dungeons ripoff
>final fantasy 5 is better
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>>344314860
Explain what 3 and 5 have above the others then.
And "generic" means nothing, how is 8 more generic than the rest?
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>>344314645

>Nowhere is this stated to be true.
The very first thing Tidus says is an internal monologue where he says 'This is my story'. Then when Auron pulls him out of Zanarkand, he says "This is your story." And at the end of the game, Tidus once again repeats his life from the very beginning.

But sure.

>FFX established what the recreational pass-time is, who the highest authority were
Both of which proved to have no point in defeating Jecht or Sin.

>and then introduced a "wild card" factor that later became the anti-thesis to Yuna's beliefs.
Which was Tidus. So after 80% of the game is done, it finally gets to the real point of the story. Which is Tidus.

>The entirety of Seymour's character and his arc involved the rejection of tradition and a radical perspective on how the rest of Spira should proceed.
Which would be fine and all, except Tidus would have done the same thing even if Seymour wasn't there. He would have still kept Yuna from killing herself and insisted they go against the Fayth.

In the end, all the stuff about the Maesters, their religion and etc was pointless. Made pointless by the Fayth itself. The Maesters even point out that they know their religion is pointless and only there to keep the people calm. So basically all that running around you did and all the stuff you learned about the religion was pointless. Unless you consider it world building.
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>>344293515
Excellent taste.
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>>344315141
>Explain what 3 and 5 have above the others then.
3 is the only Dragon Quest game other than 9 (which was a piece of shit) that let you make your own characters with their own classes and genders, and you can even class change. It was primitive but was absolutely amazing for the time. 5 had the best story bar none and seeing your character grow up throughout the story was mind-blowing.
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>>344293515

>FF10: Last good one
OP is a gigantic faggot
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>>344314968
I fail to see the pacing problem in 4, on the other hand 5 has that awkward moment between the two timeskips when 15 minutes of gameplay apparently were 9 months for the characters of the game.
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>>344315893
>I fail to see the pacing problem in 4
Having to grind level 1 characters constantly is obnoxious.
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>>344315248
>The very first thing Tidus says is an internal monologue where he says 'This is my story'.
If you're going by the dub, sure. Pretty sure it's not stated as "my story" but "our story" in the original JAP version.
>Both of which proved to have no point in defeating Jecht or Sin.
Recreational pass-time was established as a goddamn mini-game, and purely optional at that aside from two games that you can win or lose. The shit that follows is pretty damn crucial to the story, though.

The Maester's are actually pretty fucking crucial, too. Did you even play the fucking game?
>Which was Tidus. So after 80% of the game is done, it finally gets to the real point of the story. Which is Tidus.
Holy fucking shit, you could NOT be more wrong if you were trying.
>Which would be fine and all, except Tidus would have done the same thing even if Seymour wasn't there. He would have still kept Yuna from killing herself and insisted they go against the Fayth.
Holy fuck. This has to be bait.
>Which would be fine and all, except Tidus would have done the same thing even if Seymour wasn't there. He would have still kept Yuna from killing herself and insisted they go against the Fayth.
EXCEPT THE ENTIRE FUCKING PREMISE OF THE STORY RELIES ON IT, YOU MONGLOID
>Made pointless by the Fayth itself
Oh my fucking God
>The Maesters even point out that they know their religion is pointless and only there to keep the people calm
No
> So basically all that running around you did and all the stuff you learned about the religion was pointless. Unless you consider it world building.
I can't. I can't answer someone this fucking stupid and inattentive to THE MAIN FUCKING PLOT.

Have the most impressive gold fucking star for DUMBEST FUCKING PERSON EVER
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>>344308814
I never realised the Alexandrian soldiers design was based on Celes.
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i tried playing 6 my first time recently after playing chono trigger my first time and couldn't get into it. idk what ff6 has to offer over chrono trigger other than more character customization, but i found the world in CT to be much more interesting, better plot, better characters, better pacing, better visuals. i think 6 is pretty overrated desu. the ghost train sequence was really cool though.
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>>344315870
3 was revolutionary but its job system was improved in all the other games that implemented it.
5 has a good story but also other problems, other than >>344315893 it's also much more easy than almost every other game in the series.
Anyway it's all stuff that alone certainly doesn't make some games "good" and others "not good".
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>>344293515
>FF7- Probably the best one
Stopped reading there. Nostalgiafags have zero taste.
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>probably the best

OP
Please elaborate on FF7 for me
WHAT MADE IT THE BEST?
The graphics? The plot? The gameplay?
The bandwagoning?
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>>344316270
to add, i only bring this up because so many people told me ff6 is the best JRPG they've ever played and i just don't see it. it's definitely a good game and a great game for its time but i just think its pretty lackluster honestly.
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>>344316032
?
The only times I had to grind in 4 were before Balzac and Psaro.
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Who here Tactics master race?
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>>344293515
terra is a qt
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>>344293515
>>FF3: FF5 is better.

Why are you judging a game against a game that came 2 later in the series, and not based on anything else, like its own merits or flaws?

Thats an objectively stupid way to judge it when compared to how you judged the rest.
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>>344304468
people just like to hate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8MO7fkZc5o&feature=youtu.be&t=1m25s
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>>344306494
Cunny.
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>>344316171

>did you even play the fucking game?
Every FF thread when a FF fags argument falls apart.
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>>344317335
If you don't like it make a DQ thread or something DQ fag.
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FF6's sprites are fucking beautiful.
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>>344317581
FF died when Amano stepped down as character designer.
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>>344317581
Kefka went downhill after becoming a "god." He doesn't do shit. Just jacks off about how he doesn't understand emotions.
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>>344317450

>didn't even mention Dragon Quest
Wow dude. Who pissed in your corn flakes?
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>>344318097

Nomura was head of battle design and art design in FFVI. He was just adapting Amano's designs. And frankly, none of them look like Amano's work in game.
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>>344293515
>FF12: Ye Olde Shite
Shit opinion discarded.
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>>344318387
>uses terms like FF fags
>DQ fags are posting in the thread
>put two and two together
voila
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>>344318284
I agree he should have had more of a presence in-game. What did he even do during the WoR? Blast a laser at a town and what else?
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>FF1 I don't know
>FF2 have to cheat?
>FF3 I got bored
>FF4 Cecil is love
>FF5 got job mom!
>FF6 now I understand
>FF7 mario rpg 2
>FFT gave me autism
>FF8 pacing doesn't exist
>FF9 zidane is awful
>FF10 linear sports puzzles
>FF10-2 No direct sequels?
>FF11 FOUR 75 JOBS
>FF12 into the future
>FF13 into linear darkagehell
>FF13...... it goes trash
>FF14 I loved 11
>FF14 ARR REALLY loved 11
>FF15 Sasuke SAVE US!
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>>344319012
English is clearly not your first language, huh?
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>>344318550

>only Dragon Quest fans use terms like FF fags
Wow. That's quite a conspiracy you have going on there. But I guess you have to deflect your anger somewhere instead of focusing on your own spiteful fanbase.

What's next? Only Team Fortress fans complain about the endless Overwatch threads?
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DQ IV or FF IV?
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FF10
> Not : AH AH AH
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>>344320801
Blame yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cyx6nWdFas
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>>344320573

DQI > FFI
DQII > FFII
DQIII > FFIII
DQIV > FFIV
DQV > FFV
DQVI < FFVI
DQVII > FFVII
DQVIII > FFVIII
DQIX > FFIX
DQX = lol never ever
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>Playing RynoaRPG
>get to brainwash and hypnotize Terra from pure virgin into a sex slave mega slut masochist, exhibitionist, masturbation addict.
>its more sexually satisfying than relations with GF


What do?
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>>344322492

Make a slave crown for your gf to wear.
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>>344322492
play a better game obviously
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>>344293515
>I should kill myself: the post
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>>344322492

Congrats
You have been brainwashed

Now you will never reproduce

Chad, Tyrone, and Pajeet will all have children with your soon to be ex-girlfriend.

Looks like the conditioning program worked!
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Ok.

FF1: Good for time.
FF2: Tedious as hell.
FF3: Fun job system.
FF4: Decent stable game.
FF5: Better job system.
FF6: Pretty great game.
FF7: A new standard.
FF8: Bad leveling system.
FF9: Return to basics.
FF10: Decent but low.
FF12: Rather long game.
FF13: All NPCs gone.
FF13-2: Barely a improvement.
Bravely Default: A proper FF.
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>>344313137
But DQIV is the best one. Overall DQ has a better track record. People here shit on FF too much. Plus FF did take great inspiration from DQ, sephiroth is basically psaro design wise.
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>>344324067

Except Psaro had actual development at least somewhat of a reason to want to destroy everything (though still a little angst filled compared to other DQ bosses).
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>>344322852
No other game lets you brainwash Terra, Yuffie, and Tifa into sluts.
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There isn't a SINGLE DQ game that can hold a candle to FF 5, 6, or 7.
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>>344324852
I'm filtered so I can't adequately reply.
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FF1: lol haven't played
FF2: lol haven't played
FF3: will play soon
FF4: will play soon
FF5: neat job system
FF6: okay but overrated
FF7: deserving of praise
FF8: Squall is cool
FF9: campy but fun
FF10: completely overrated borefest
FF12: need to play
FF13: beautiful but flawed
FF13-2: might play someday
FF13LR: might play someday
Bravely Default: boring world, characters
Crisis Core: Zack a best
Tactics: best job system
Explorers: could have been
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>>344323272
>>>/pol/
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dead thread, dead series
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So when and where did this meme originate from exactly?
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>>344325415
Try harder or paste bin, please.
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>>344326652
/vr/, someone asked for a suggestions for their class and names for said classes. The most popular response was four fighters with the names "BALS TO THE WALL" .

Balls to the Wall is a statement that originates from U.S. pilots in the 60s roughly translating to go maximum speed. Fighter is the most broken class in FF1.

I think you can figure it out.
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Teedus a feg
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I like Celes more than Terra.
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>>344319452
>>>in 3 words
You are shit
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>>344293515
Enjoy your developer hell, episodic remake anon.

I'll be playing a real one next year. :^)
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>>344326652
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>>344310234

Amen!

XI in particular can practically be enjoyed as a single-player game nowadays, it'd take just the cost of purchase to finish its major stories during the first free month, during which the subscription isn't an issue.
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>>344332370
I'd like to "custodian" her "Vana'diel"
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>>344327982

>Fighter is the most broken class in FF1

I thought that was Black Belt.
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>>344332684

Not sure you could handle that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhjmF-nPrVQ&t=126
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>>344333857
I don't think I'd mind going like that
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>>344293515
>FF6: Awesome first half
>Not enjoying the World of Ruin because it opens up very quickly and lets you do whatever the fuck you want

Get the fuck outta here, nigger.
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>>344335824

OP is clearly a faggot who can't enjoy a game unless it's on rails.
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>>344306316
Because he got three princesses on his dick.
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>>344335932
Some of us have better things to do then wander around an artificial-feeling world that devs shoehorned in because they needed to pad out the game a bit more.
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>>344336680

Then just go straight to the end boss :3
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>>344336836
Fine then, I will, faggot
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>>344322312

>DQV > FFV
No
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>>344293515
I only played 7
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>>344336952
the important thing is that the fifth game of both series are the best games of their respective series
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>>344293515
>>FF9: Bland and forgettable
Into the garbage with you.
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>>344293515
>>FF12: Ye Olde Shite
>>FFT: Actually fucking amazing
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>FF1: Old fashioned game
>FF2: Ambitious but flawed
>FF3: A solid foundation
>FF4: Polished FF 3
>FF5: Meh x3
>FF6: The runner up
>FF7: Good but overrated
>FF8: everything goes wrong
>FF9: from this point
>FF10: Final fantasy died
>FF10-2: shit crap farts
>FF12: mmo combat lmao
>FF13: Atrocious horse shit
>FFT: the best ff
>BD: solid first part
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>FF7: Probably the best

that doesn't describe the game at all, it just compares it to other games.

"FF7: Save The Earth" would have been better.
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>>344304183
>le WoR doesn't have plot meme
>character development isn't plot

I want this meme to die.
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>>344337814
>he wants subtitles
me too
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>>344337814

>Tifa's tits are still in focus
I love it, every time I see it.
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Should I play the PSP or DS version of 4?
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>>344338710

PSP has more content and is closer to the classic version.
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>>344338813
I kinda like the look of the 3d chibis in IV DS
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>>344338980

DS is a different experience and I encourage you to play that one too.
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>>344338710
Both, actually. PSP is more like the original while DS is the definitive version, with corny voice acting and shit
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>>344293515
>>FFT: Actually fucking amazing
>>BD: Overrated but solid
>Including spinoffs and games not even in the series but not 2 mainline games
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>>344313941
>Also To the sun is the best overworld theme in the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72Mqf2KBBEc
I can't believe they still only use this for cutscenes when it's way fucking better than the current theme.
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>FF7: Probably the best

If it's your first JRPG, sure.
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>>344340016
Being a contrarian doesn't make you cool here like it does in anime, kid.
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XIII > X
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>>344307621
>I can't wait for 15 !!
Son, the game was announced when you were like in 2nd grade
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>>344342758
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>>344343746
mofo waited through three levels of schooling to get this shit and its still not out
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>>344343746
They've been waiting around the same for KHIII
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>>344343746
he thinks he's special because its gonna be the 15th mainline release the same year he turns 15
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>>344293515
>FF7: Probably the best
>FF9: Bland and forgettable
shit taste detected
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>>344345212
>he thinks IX is the best
I think its one of the better entries but I haven't played enough of it to decide if its the best
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>>344305451
It was a ghost train so it weighed nothing.
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>>344345212
9 has no identity of its own, it's just aping the earlier games.
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>>344318097
Nomura did the sprites in FF6. And Amano didn't design shit in FF6 besides the Crusaders. Nomura did every monster, summon and boss battle, as well as all the in game character designs for the main party.

Green leotard Celes? Nomura. Green haired Terra with the shoulder guards? Nomura, he did the whole main party designs for their in game, plus he also did the sprite art for them. That entire artwork of Kefka? Nomura. Nomura and Kazuko Shibuya are the ones who did the in game character designs that are the actual definitive designs of them with Shibuya doing the other side characters.

All Amano did was promotional artwork AFTER the fact, he only did his artwork after the characters were already designed by Shibuya and Nomura and he did them in an abstract way.

Same deal with the older FFs, Kazuko Shibuya and Koichi Ishii are the ones who did the FF1-5 character designs, not Amano. The only thing Amano did on classic FF that was used in the games were the monster designs for FF1-4 and the Crusaders in FF6. Nomura did all monster, summon and enemy designs in FF5 including Gilgamesh and Exdeath.

For example here, Kazuko Shibuya designed Black mage, Red mage, White mage, Warrior, Monk and Thief, not Amano. The only thing for a "character" he did on FF1 was the boxart where he did his own design for Warrior, which was just used as promotional art for the game.

This Amano designed everything in FF1-6 is just another Inafune tier meme.
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