I liked ZTD a lot. The ending is a bit unusual but most stuff can be explained if we think about it.
What do you guys think?
Is the PSTV compatibility patch available yet? I got this game yesterday and it was a known issue back on June 28th.
>>344282498
in a week or so
>>344283014
Give me a source. I need this. I need to know.
>>344281952
>most stuff can be explained if we think about it.
That's true of every story ever written.
If the story had been presented in a more detached way as if it was meant to be a puzzle to crack then it would have been fair to leave hanging threads and stuff like that. ZTD's plot is too reliant on drama and suspense to leave so much stuff unaddressed.
I'm going to marry Carlos!
>>344281952
Diana wasn't anything like Luna
>>344286670
>Diana ended up being a dumb bitch
Well, that was disappointing.
This thread has now been mindhacked to be the next thread.
>>344286616
>>344286887
>>344287010
>>344286670
Luna was Diana without flaws. She had to be the perfect robo-waifu after all.
>>344286670
That's because Diana was an actual human being and Luna was a robot made to fill the hole she left in Sigma's heart
>>344281952
I wasn't strongly disappointed like everyone here seems to, just slightly underwhelmed by what could be a really great story if they gave it more room to breath. But memes here are absolutely brutal, love it.
ZE is sexist as fuck. All the girls end up being manipulative bitches.
>>344286670
Luna wasn't programmed to be a slut.
>>344288837
Luna acted more like a believable human being than Diana did.
>>344288837
>made to fill the 18 inch deep hole with Sigma's 18 inch long rod
FTFY
>>344281952
I enjoyed it a lot. The game went full retard starting withDelta's reveal, but I don't have any complaints with anything before that.
What do you guys think about the Sleeping Beauty paradox?
>>344288837
>>344289202
I don't even remember Diana being timid, or saying she loved nature. Seems like Sigma added extra stuff in there
>>344289884
He also implemented some major facial correction.
someone post "THE FUCK"
>>344290159
Was it a mistake to not show anything of their time together at Dcom?
Mind hack confirmed better meme
>>344290261
They showed how Phi hugged Diana<3
>>344290406
That's unbalanced. It doesn't account for other wordings, like "my motivations are complex."
HOW THE FUCK DO I GET ALL THE QUEST FILES?
THIS FUCKING SHIT GAME DON'T TELL ME HOW MANY I GOT
>>344290615
no one here says motivations, the meme is "complex motives" or "my motives are complex"
>>344290656
by looking in all the rooms :)
>>344290715
the results are inconsistent anyhow.
To get a proper result you'd have to do
>Results of phrases involving "Mind, Hack"
>Results of phrases involving "Complex, Motive, Motives"
>>344290656
There's one in the study a lot of people seem to keep missing because it's unnecessary. I don't think I got it. You should easily find all the others
>>344290801
Oh, and >", Mindhack"
Uchi confirmed that the Transport was moved to the moon
>>344291072
what a fucking asspull
>lol we'll just scan copies of everyone and send them to happy ZTD timeline
>>344290801
>>344290894
you forgot mindhaxxx
Don't look this spoilerHah, I succesfully mindhacked you. How shift to another history three seconds earlier or get fucked.
>>344291965
DELTAAAAAAAAAAA
>>344291072
How did Delta even load up the transporter on a fucking truck? Isn't it too huge to fit?
>>344290834
Erm so what room here do you think i missed some from?
>>344292351
The ward IS the truck.
>>344291072
Zero himself said he moved everything in Payoff 2, but that's not what the guy's asking, Uchi.
Goddammit.
>>344292454
Change the sort method first.
as much as I'll shit on the game, it had some heavy-hitting moments, namely the Stranded Pair and all of VLR ending
>Junpei desperately reaching out to Akane saying that he'll never forget her after being injected with a full dose of the memory drug
>>344292564
Oh thanks i can guess which ones now .
anyone feel like Morphogenetic Sorrow and Blue Bird Lamentation were overplayed in ZTD? Kinda lessened their significance. I was, however, a tad disappointed that Morphogenetic Sorrow didn't play during the true end credits
>let's bring babies to this world that will die of starvation within a week
>>344281952
someone add some jack daniels to luna's hand and a black eye and it'll perfect
>>344292460
The D in Dcom stands for Delivery.
>>344293087
what do you expect from Diana "Oops, there goes 6 Billion people"
Stream in 4 hours
>>344293087
That's why I didn't like the hope of two ending. Tons of awkward dialogue on top of all that.
>>344293087
being born and dying is better than not being born at all.
At least thanks to ayyliens they were able to be faxed to another history and live there.
>>344291072
In the True Ending Delta says that he moved all the machines including the quantum computer and the Transport, in trucks.
That's when Delta is accused of conspiracy and murder by the 3 teams.
Thoughts on Eric?
>>344293852
He's bullshit.
>>344293852
Was he autistic?
>>344293852
retarded
oblivious to the fact that Mira isn't interested in him
impulsive and resorts to violence quickly
/v/ incarnate
>tfw no secret ending where Seven infiltrates the facility and saves everyone
>>344293697
>copy of me gets to live a happy life
Nah, fuck that.
Guys, I'm going to SHIFT to a world where ZTD doesn't suck, wish me luck
I missed a lot of symbolism in the game due to playing through it really late at night, what did you guys make of the symbolism in the puzzles/decisions/latin phrases
also, what did he mean by this?
The only good twist in the story was the hidden member. If you rewatch all the Q-team scenes you can get hints of him.
>>344280971
>uhh... some DS game with a doctor who-esque pen...
late to that thread but it's Time Hollow
>>344294746
>no joke ending where Delta literally meant it by "not a single person has died" as a bunch of cars containing:
-the three guys from the second Nonary Game that Ace murdered
-Alice's father
-Eric's mom
-Akane's parents
-the original Sean
-hell, even the taxi driver and the surgeon
show up, and everyone has a grand ol' party at Eric's ice cream shop.
>>344295042
>also, what did he mean by this?
Does it matter if the game turned out different than he planned?
>>344295064
>the only good twist is the most pointless one
>>344295064
can you post some examples? I was suspicious after seeing the X door as opposed to the 9 door, but I didn't notice anything about the hidden member while playing
>>344295105
I wouldn't have minded a joke ending after what we got
>>344295105
Crap, forgot Eric's little bro and all of Mira's other kills as the Heart Ripper.
There, NOW everyone has their party.Fuck Eric's dad, it's entirely his fault he dumped Chris's corpse in the lake.
>>344295212
That was in March 2016. The game was all but done by that time.
Mira is definitely the hottest character in the series.
Should have been raped
>>344294853
that copy of you is still you
>>344293697
>being born and dying is better than not being born at all.
w h a t
>>344295314
There is a leddit thread with all the hints.
>>344295212
He originally planned to be the playable char of D team but changed his mind and made it Diana
>>344295571
You wouldn't understand, it's too complex.
>>344295442
No, it's a copy of me. Only way it would be me is if I could shift and take over her body.
>>344295341
Confirmed for havingzerotaste
>>344295212
>>344295649
Fuck forgot a word like an idiot
He originally planned Sigma to be the leader of D team but later changed it to Diana.
>>344295316
I wanted to see more resolution to Eric's tragic story, but I guess we can't get everything we want
>>344295649
planned who to be D leader?
>>344295760
Sigma.
>>344295442
no, it's not. come on, this is babby's first transporter problem
>>344295754
why was this? I'm kinda glad it was all new characters to be team leaders
>>344295981
Q2 - "So, I heard originally that you were planning to have ZTD follow Sigma as the main character, but with what we've seen recently, you decided to switch to three main characters. Why did you switch to three main characters, and how will this switch impact the game that you wrote?"
"So, during initial planning stages for Zero Time Dilemma before it was "Zero Time Dilemma", we had always planned to have three characters, but one of them we wanted to be Sigma initially. But, when we thought about it, it's kinda unfair to new players that aren't familiar with the series, because Sigma, y'know, spoilers, is from the future - well, his brain or consciousness is -"
"Yeah, uh, it's a big loop in VLR."
"Yeah, so he already knows what happens, and if you're the player following this character around who already knows, like, the plot, kind of, it's not very engaging for the player and kind of unfair."
"Kind of a detachment from the character."
"Yeah, so with the new cast, Diana knows as little as the player does, so you're on the same page."
We need an edit of this image.
>>344295726
Lotus is no way near as hot us Mira.
Mira actually has curves with big titties and duck sucking lips.
Lotus is a twig with titts.
>>344295664
there would be a version of you appearing in another history who would remember being faxed and brought to a new history.
>>344296209
Official ZE women tier :
Waifu tier : Luna, Diana
Cool sis tier : Phi
Potential psycho tier : Clover, Akane
Big Boobed Bitch Tier : Lotus, Alice, Mira
was his entire existence a joke?
>>344296350
You know that pressing the button is actually the better option right?
If you don't Mira kills whole D-team and escapes, leaving only Delta & Sean alive.
By pressing the button, you rid the world of a dangerous serial killer.
>>344296449
I liked Phi and Akane the best and thought Diana wasn't all that great, but hey that's just me
>>344296406
Meanwhile I'd be dying of starvation like a retard.
Go me!
>>344286670
That's because Diana is a broken girl after beingbeaten and raped repeatedly by her ex-husband
>>344291072
>and Quark be happy in the ZTD timeline
>and Quark
fuck this faggot
Quark is already living a happy life with his alcoholic Grandpa
>>344296465
Basically.
>>344296669
Quark is the terrorist.
His name is the clue, the smallest particle you'd find in a bomb.
>>344296610
I really liked Phi in VLR but I felt like she didn't really do much in ZTD at all.
Same deal with Akane. For someone who is all cold and cunning she really didn't do much aside from go crazy whenever Junpei died.
>>344296209
Lotus is the very picture of beauty.
>>344296656
>2028
>feminism already won
>dumb ho still find excuses to play the victim
>>344293087
You think they have a full abortion kit down there or something?
>>344296642
why wouldn't you be on the body of the one that was sent to another history?
>>344296765
I agree with you on both counts
Phi was wasted potential honestly, and I expected more scheming and less violent revenge murder from Akane
>>344296449
>ranking mira with those 2 shits
She was like one of the only characters who didn't bitch in the game.
>>344296761
Then Radical-6 obviously didn't do its job.
>>344293852
Autistic beta nu-male cuckold faggot
>>344296851
Because I'm not the copy? Duh.
>>344296802
>liking bony bitches over curves
i only played 999 and loved it
but i'm not buying 3ds/vita just to play zero escape and zero time dilemma (altho i'm almost tempted to)
ports to pc when or 3ds emulator when?
>>344296872
at least the more emotional scenes between her and Junpei and Akane were cute. Her only purpose was to BTFO people who thought Akane didn't care about Junpei any more and randomly bring up philosophy
>>344297042
VLR is coming to Steam, 999 as well.
>junpei said that q-team has a handicap
>tfw i thought he meant mentally handicap
>tfw i thought he was talking about Eric
I legitimately thought that Eric was retarded at one point. I can't be the only one, right?
>>344297042
there's going to be pc ports for 999 and VLR, and ZTD is out on steam of course
>>344297014
>liking badly drawn anatomy
>>344297042
The second game is called Virtues Last Reward. The series is called Zero Escape.
999 and VLR were recently confirmed for getting ports (not confirmed PC, but very likely), just wait for those.
>>344296954
The copy is you.
Their memories are yours. Their body are yours, and there's a consciousness still alive in that body.
A consciousness that would wake up and leave from the export ports, wondering if the process worked. Why wouldn't you be that consciousness instead of the one left behind?
>>344293852
>C Team
>Two veteran lovers and a compassionate firefighter who can SHIFT
>D Team
>Mother, father, and daughter
>Q Team
>Eric plus 3 people bent on killing him
>Eric presumably is the only one in the group being injected with drugs
>While the people in the other teams can all SHIFT, the only power Eric has is to access the morphogenic field in order to find the nearest shotgun
Eric is the real hero of this story
>>344297263
Not him, but Lotus ribcage is a mess there.
>>344297047
The quasi-proposal scene, some of the death scenes, and the VLR scene were all great. I'll admit that Junpei and Akane are at the core of ZE to me, so all those scenes made me pretty happy
>>344281952
>most stuff can be explained if we think about it.
What happened to transported Carlos in the timeline where they won the coin toss?
>>344297042
Zero Time Dilemma is already out on steam.
Anyone else think that when Carlos was raping akane it was Kyle or ? taking him over?
Infact where the fuck were any of them?
I also hate this shit where
>we were the good guys originally
>>344297385
>tfw you can't SHIFT into the timeline where you and your childhood oneitis end up together
>>344297121
>>344297148
>>344297307
oh good to know i'm pleasantly surprised
>>344297342
I felt pretty bad for him after learning his story and seeing how badly it fucked him up. I wish he got some kind of development that didn't swing back into retardation 2 minutes later, but oh well
>>344293852
he's a dumb fucking idiot. To think I was expecting him to be a mastermind cold blooded sociopath by the art. Never again am I going to make guesses about characters based on their appearance alone
>>344297524
they explain that it was a way to disable the bracelets discreetly without making it obvious to Zero
>>344297323
Because I'm the original. I'd be standing in front of the teleporter like a retard wondering why the transporter didn't work, meanwhile copy-san would go "yay! It worked" and live a happy life.
>>344297548
>'thanks Sean for believing in the fact that im not a full blown retard'
>goes full retard 20 seconds later
fucking Eric
>>344297524
no, because he was seriously just pretending. It was a way to avoid Zero hearing them out, when he climbed on top of her he whispered her to go get the cards in the trasporter room
>>344297471
Delta owns the transporter, so he killed the duplicate in every timeline he's not needed, since he would probably appear at the free the soul HQ.
>>344297323
Because atomic data doesn't include the original consciousness, just a literal copy from an exact brain reconstruction.
Sigma even waxes as much after he uses it and you view the scenes coming out of the import pods.
This would mean you could SHIFT to your displaced copy, though.
>>344291072
Except that doesn't fix anything and they can't actually live in the good timeline, just a copy of them. In fact doing so would be pointless because those copies wouldn't even be guaranteed to live in the timeline, they'd have to transport to before ZTD happens, meaning that'd only a small set of themselves would live in the good timeline, with the rest still living in a shit timeline except even worse because now they actually have to live through the apocalypse.
Does anyone have the angry sigma picture that's mostly his eyes and eyebrows?
Foxy Grandpa > Marty McFly > CRAWLING IN MY SKIN
>>344297971
So? it's the same for all VLR characters.
We knew from the start they were stuck there, just that they created another timeline where a version of them could live a cool life.
>>344297764
That can't happen because Carlos came out before the timelines branched. He'd need to detain Carlos until he's sure which timeline it is, and by that point the game is already happening.
>>344297323
No matter how many times you fax something, you still retain the original. There isn't some sort of 50/50 chance where you might get the original.
Hints about Sean/Q
>When the Crash Keys twitter account was revealing the images of the participants of the decision game, they never revealed Sean
FUCK
>>344298118
>CRAWLING IN MY SKIN
He's too happy when things go right bro
>>344297373
Mira looks like she doesn't even have bones, she doesn't have bodily curves, and her legs don't make any sense if you try to look at them for more than a second.
>>344298118
His fucking trot and victory celebration is too good, too pure. Also the Monty Hall room was top tier Jumpy and Carlos manliness.
>>344298224
yeah, I was kind of joking with that, but for quite a few parts of the game he's edgy af
granted I was using the English audio, which probably didn't help with that
Phis new outfit was glorious. Didn't dig the reddish eyebrows but those were at least explained
>>344298162
You're right,
well then he stations one of the Left clones near the entrance of the bunker and when duplicate Carlos arrives after the game has started, Delta tells the Left clone whether to kill him or not, so duplicate Carlos is only allowed to barge in the timeline Delta wants.
>>344298224
>>344298454
But the game never even starts in the timeline where they win the coin toss.
The only reason Q has no portrait is because he is le-complex-motives man?
>>344298797
It's part of the Q/Sean twist
>>344298713
Well then as soon as they win the coin toss, Delta orders the other Carlos to be killed.
It's not that complicated.
>>344298234
Yeah, her legs are a mess, especially the left one, but I don't see anything wrong with her top half.
The pose is awkward as fuck tho, she should be sitting or leaning against something.
doesn't his Biker analogy still hold truth? I mean, the true end is accomplished by sending many alternate versions of themselves to a gruesome death and they're basically just enabling one happy existence out of many (like with the dice problem)
not saying they're morally wrong, it's just something to think about (and the point of the *second to* last decision game)
>>344298896
>Delta orders the other Carlos to be killed.
That seems to go against Delta's established reasoning seeing as he chews out the participants for completely disregarding other timelines versions of themselves.
>>344298914
It's not just that the pose is awkward, her left leg should be bending somewhat. As it stands in that image, it looks like the legs are of different length.
>>344298896
I can't really accept your theory without any proof.
>>344299032
No. Especially since the VLR timeline will never change after what happened at the bunker.
>>344299129
Well the real answer : we don't know so all we can do is make a hypothesis.
Alternatively, the other Carlos lives, he joins up the group after the ending and they go drinking together.
while it obviously didn't play out on screen, what would you have done, shoot delta or leave him alive? I would have done the latter because there's really no point in killing him and he arguably helped save the world
>>344299617
I believe Carlos would never shoot him desu
Any explanations for the aliens?
Sean is a qt
really though, probably my favorite english VA and I liked him a lot more then I thought I would
>>344299617
The interesting part is that he says the fate of the world depends on this decision .
So killing him or not determines whether the fanatic can be stopped.
>>344299617
kill him because he tricked me, he's way too smug and he's fucking old so he needs to die.
>>344299032
What if the events of VLR were always in the good timeline, but everybody involved either didn't know or made sure that they didn't know?
The whole AB Program was on the moon and nobody communicated with Earth or perceived whether Radical 6 broke out or not.
It's a Schrödinger's Cat thing where the Earth is both fine and fucked before they come back and observe it, so if they make sure that there's a reason for it to be fine and then return to Earth, it will be fine.
I just talked out of my ass and there are like 10 holes in this theory, but maybe we could make it work.
>>344299765
same thing with All-Ice I guess, just another weird unexplained element
>>344299765
Watch the history channel.
>>344299617
Don't shoot. Technically Delta hasn't commit any crimes in that timeline. At the end he has saved humanity.
>>344299617
Don't shoot because he did nothing wrong.
>>344299765
Clover pointed out to Sigma there were metroids in the treatment pod room, but Sigma naively thought they were jellyfishes.
For all PSTV (>>344282498) anons playing ZTD, the patch is now live. https://twitter.com/aksysgames/status/751460412361625600
>>344299884
how would that mesh with Tenmyouji and Quark's memories?
>>344299916
He killed Alice's dad, along with many other kidnapped researchers, which seems to have been conveniently forgotten.
>>344300023
THEY WERE IN ON IT THE ENTIRE TIME
>Aoi doesn't even show up in the shitty epilogue files
Why, Uchi?
>>344300140
I'm not sure how much of the info from VLR on Free the Soul is even true at this point
>>344299895
All-Ice is just Alice who got sent back to Ancient Egypt via the transporter
>>344300280
bravo Uchi
>>344300140
>yfw he Transported them so that he can still say "See, not a single person has died!"
>>344300280
I wouldn't put it past Uchi. Maybe Ace was in it too.
Gotta keep BW motivated.
>>344299617
Shoot himin the foot. He can go hobble his way to his top surgeons and fix that shit.
>>344300659
He'll just mind hack Eric to carry him to his wheelchair.
I also just finished it, and rather enjoyed myself.
Some lingering questions, though:
>Did they just run out of money and couldn't renderthe epilogues for Carlos, Akane & Junpei, and Eric/Mira/Sean?
>Why the fuck didn'tSigma/Phi/Diana get an epilogue, especially since they've gotta have the absolute most confusing one since Sigma and Phi's consciousnesses aren't time appropriate.
>WhenDelta is telling Akane she should attend the FtS meeting on April 12, and we know she goes, is that how she gets the full structure for the AB game? She says the AB project must succeed right after knocking out Junpei, but it seems like it must have been planned by Delta as well since his "true goal" was to have everyone survive all along.
>Why the fuck doesMira get off SO easy? Plus, in the epilogue, Mira using the transporter to stop herself from becoming a serial killer would completely erase literally everything that happens in the series, which is the point I guess, but still
>Who the hell isthe guy from the epilogue of VLR, who occupies K's body?
And, while I really thinklol alien transporteris a lame deus ex machina, at least they use it to fill literally all of the plot holes.
Alsothe Q reveal made me so fucking mad, but I think it was ultimately better executed than the Sigma reveal in VLR.
>>344296839
Sigma's got pretty good fists.
>>344300763
What's wrong with the Sigma reveal in VLR?
It's hinted several times through the game.
>>344300763
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>>344300454
AYO
>>344300873
Not really. He can't even figth a bitch in high heels.
what's their married life like anyway?
if the ending was like this the game would've been a strong 5/7
>>344301135
Hey Jumpy, I'm bored, can we organize another nonary game?
Sure Kanny, but can I be Zero this time?
oki :)
>>344299768
Should I... take my clothes off?
>>344301191
>tfw no Gab is controlled by Kyle twist
>>344300763
I hate to say this but I just fucking knew there was something up with the player's pov. Uchi loves that shit. During the Mexican standoff, when I shotDelta, I wasn't surprised at all. I only had the VLR ending at that time and from there it was obvious who the mastermind was. I'm not joking when I say that the best twist in the game for me isthere's only one ward. That's it. I'm happy for Junpei and Akane who got closure but that's it. FML
>>344301135
Akane ditching Junpei every time anything wrong happens.
>fuck this timeline and fuck this Jumpy.
>>344301324
Gab should have been Zero.
The plague doctor mask should just come off to reveal Gab happily barking away about snails and life being unfair
>>344296169
Tried my best, fám.
>>344301590
>Carlos had no recourse but to SHIFT out of there.
I'm fucking dead
>>344301135
Sad and sexless
>>344301590
HOLY KEK
>>344300924
Oh, nothing was wrong, but I think it was less airtight than Q's reveal. There had to be a lot of reasons why Sigma didn't realize he had a cyborg eye, or never see a reflection prior to that point.
Meanwhile I was so convinced that the Q reveal was total bullshit that I had to go back and look because I was 100% sure theythey specifically addressed Sean as Q multiple times, but they never did.
>>344301590
THIS ONE
THIS ONE IS THE BEST HOLY SHIT
>>344302065
The thing is: they never said that Sean was Q in the game, but in the trailer they did
None of the ZTD puzzle rooms really captured the same atmosphere as the Library or VLR's garden area imo
>>344301590
>Go play something your speed. A baby game like Danganronpa
>>344302065
They actually explained in an interview that Sigma programmed his fake eyes to give false sensations when he touched his face so he wouldn't realize he had a cyborg eye.
It's very far fetched, I admit.
>>344302216
library is a fucking shit escape room anyway, simple as fuck
>>344302296
IT'S
COMPLEX
>>344302296
>>344302420
I meant fake arms not eyes.
>>344302296
That was just an explanation that the localization editor, Ben Bateman, came up with, not the actual writers.
>>344302206
I'm willing to let that slide. Even without the trailers, you're clearly led to believe that Sean is Q, because his image is the one used for Q-Team.
>mfw ZTD has created a new batch of Zero Escape memes
>>344302547
Why are fags acting like they saved the world already? They still haven't and probably won't find the fag who's gonna trigger all the humans dying.
>>344302065
>Sigma's reveal
>less airtight than Q's reveal
Are you fucking kidding me? Sigma's reveal only relies on one person (him) being retarded, which is understandable given he's drugged and infected with a disease that slows down your brain processing to 1/√ 6.
Q's reveal relies on every other character being retarded and the game outright lying to you by making him invisible numerous times, not to mention that it's never explained why he even needed to be in the game.
>kept track of all my thoughts/observations while playing
>first start playing Q-Team
>"Lotus and Alice didn’t really bother me all that much despite the fact that both of them wound up being 'fap bait with one specific skill that comes in handy once', but something about Mira makes me really uncomfortable."
>"Not sure if it’s the art style, the fact that she’s exclusively paired up with a child and her shitty boyfriend, or that fact that her attitude thus far suggests she is aware of her status as fap bait and just kind of has no passion for anything in life."
>mfw the very first fragment I with them was Triangle, and the very first result I got was the Crossbow Ending
>>344301590
This kind of shit is why I'm still here
I need more memes like holy shit i'm crying
>>344302729
Unless I missed something myself, they never show a wideshot where the only way to not show Q would require literally deleting him from the picture. I could be wrong, but the game doesn't lie.
I thought it did, which is why I was so mad at first.
>not to mention that it's never explained why he even needed to be in the game.
He was part of the experiment at Dcom, the reason being that they may very well eventually send handicapped people to Mars and they'd want to test is people would continue to help care for them. Why wouldn't he have been a part of the decision game?
>>344303257
>He was part of the experiment at Dcom
Why did he need to be in that either? The thing was run by Free The Soul anyway.
>>344302727Implying that won't be the in the next game to milk more money and also implying it won't being Akane and Junpei's kid because they have to suffer more and no happy ending for them :^).I'd be okay with the happy end though because they are cute together.
>>344301135
An awkward and slow revelation that they have zero chemistry as adults and only feel connected whenever they're in high-tension situations (like the Nonary Game).They try to keep Carlos away because whenever he's around, they question their marriage vows
>>344303382
Ain't it obvious he's enjoying the shit out of this game, of course he wanna participate.
>>344302727
Delta gave Carlos a gun because he knew that humanity was saved no matter what.
This junpei was far better than that punk ass bitch in 999.
But for protags sake.
Carlos= Sigma(VLR) >>>>>>>Junpei(999)
>>344303257
>He was part of the experiment at Dcom
But why? I'm sure could come up with a different excuse if he wanted too. Heck, he could make Sean pretend to be handicapped.
>they never show a wideshod
They do.
And more important of all, they're never scared of Zero punishing them for Sean voting instead of Q.
They should at least try to carry the deaf blind old man's and make him select the teams.
I'm getting turned on by Akane's stockings
>>344303257
Q is in trapped in the library escape section with the rest of Q team and no matter what you do you can never see him, which is complete bullshit.
>>344303843
those and phi's pants
can anyone post "YOUR DECISION IS MADE", I'm making a shitty edit
>>344303878
How did he get up the stairs? That's what I want to know. They fired a grenade from upstairs and they wouldn't have done it if there was a crippled old fuck in a wheelchair down there.
>>344304029
You know the door of that room is not locked so maybe they just put him out of the room for that moment.
For what fucking purpose did Uchi drop Kyle and ?
There's no way he forgot and it seems like such a big thing to just say "lol let's not do it"
>>344303878
Well obviously not during the puzzle section. You can never see anyone during the puzzle section except during very specific cutscenes, like Sean in the moving chair or Diana/Sigma in the incinerator chair.
>>344303702
>They do.
Where? I'm genuinely curious, I'd like to see for myself before I shelf the game.
>>344303664
It's funny how Diana and Sean are usually just ignored as protagonists even though they almost have the same screentime and perhaps even the same narrative weight as Carlos.
Multiple protaganists were a mistake, weren't they?
![1237917779613[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gadsq5L.jpg "1237917779613[1].jpg")
Anyone have the edit of this comic but with Delta and Sigma?
>>344304241
>>344304190
>Multiple protaganists were a mistake, weren't they?
No. Carlos is just so much more interesting than Diana and Seanand sexier.
>>344304318
Thank you.
>>344303878
This is what got me about the twist.
It *technically* works and they can pretty easily say "lol he was never in the shot see look here his silhouette" but VLR's twist worked because it made sense in the framework of the game. Like there's never a situation where it feels unnatural that you can't see Sigma's face, because the whole game is built around his perspective, so it's mindblowing that it was literally right under our noses.
With Delta you have to accept that despite all of these third person cameras and apparent wide shots (maybe C and D Team got them but not Q, I dunno the game is like 20 hours long), often shifting multiple times in a single scene, the most we ever see of him is a silhouette because he's just really good at staying out of camera angles or whatever. And the whole Q = Delta thing is a little hard to swallow too. When did Eric and Mira learn Sean's name and how come they never directly used it until that scene? And just..... I don't fucking know.
>>344304190
I dunno, I thought they all had a fairly good presence and I really liked Sean
I will agree that Carlos had the most "protagonist" feel, which isn't a bad thing
Have a baby in isolation with, Chop into pieces, Marry after SHIFTing into different bodies, Cuck
>>344304190
Because Diana doesn't do anything besides be a slut and Sean is walking exposition
>>344304380
I did think it was funny how nearly goddamn everyone was like "Oh look at this big American HERO of JUSTICE"
>>344303878
You're right. You can see Mira and Eric's models standing around but not Q's. I'm such an idiot for not realizing this.
What the hell was the writer thinking when he put Carlos as the "protagonist" when all he did throughout the game was screaming "MARIA"?
seriously tho he was such a bland character
>>344304668
>diana
>slut
She's submissive as fuck, not a slut. She just lets men walk all over her.
>>344304730
Ironic a shitpostin... Etc...
behold, my shitty unfinished edit
>>344304730
>he doesn't love Carlos and want to handle his hose
Leave
>ZTD memery begins to overtake /v/
>>344304014
>>344304380Your replied with my own edit. Nice coincidence
To be fair, I would've preferred that there'd be no teams and it just naturally follows that in this, there should only be one protagonist.
I like the idea that the character interactions always be mixed up rather than set into a mold.
>yfw
>>344304124
Who fucking knows. I kept expecting a big twist with it but it never happened
Tbh I could have forgiven everything else about ZTD if the ending had been good but it honestly just felt like such a letdown. Like the big climax of the whole franchise is just Delta talking at you, then the shelter starts to explode so everyone holds hands and warps back to the beginning and Delta talks at you some more.
I expected there to be something big with Kyle and ? or with the terrorist. Instead I just got generic open we totally didn't run out of money ending. And that's supposed to cap off this whole three-game decades-long time bending struggle for the fate of humanity. Come on, Uchi, you used to be better than that.
>>344305063
