Can we all agree that zenyatta is actually one of the best support heroes in the game?
he is without a doubt in the top 4 when it comes to support.
Doesn't matter how good he is when everyone who plays him sucks balls.
>>344264910
>In the top 4
I had a giggle
>>344264910
Dude is dogshit, enjoy me flanking and throatfucking you as Tracer or Genji.
The new support that's coming out looks like it's gonna make Zen completley useless too.
>>344265181
>The new support that's coming out looks like it's gonna make Zen completley useless too.
Woah, wait, what? Source?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgI0_uryyczayA7JOMkQF_g
>>344265181
>casuals think zenyatta is only for healing.
so the new char can rip apart tanks? Increase team synergy with 50% damage boosts? wow. thats a crazy cool sniper rifle.
Zen just needs about 15% higher top speed and a much sharper acceleration curve. Maybe 2x so he can juke farther and faster.
They got him close but no cigar.
>>344264910
you're a funny guy op
>>344264910
Just needs a slight buff to Harmony orb hps. Otherwise, in good hands he's dangerous as fuck. A headshot with discord orb does 180 damage.
>>344265307
This.
Zenyata is a De-buffer as well as a healer.
if you think that man is suppose to focus heal the entire game, ur very wrong.
He'sfun to play. I like debuffing motherfuckers and tearing them apart when they underestimate me
>>344264910
when the new support charector comes out, im sure he will be "in the top five when it comes to support."
>>344265369
Correction, it does 135. Still ridiculous.
>>344265242
The Overwatch twitter released a pic of a gun for a healing sniper class, a better Zen really.
>>344265307
Like I said, it doesnt matter when I can get close and melt you in .3 seconds.
>>344265387
a debuffer who cant properly translate, my team doesnt even see the discord marker which as a support would help so much, his ult requites him in the middle of the action, WHAT! if anything it should be a global ult that gives every one alive healing orbs.
>>344265482
clearly u are playing with some shitty tanks who dont know how to protect their healers/support.
>>344264910
>>344265052
>>344265362
Somehow I see a missed opportunity of saying "top 5" but I'll still take it.
>>344265181
*headshots u then kicks u*
heh, gaze into the iris kid
>one of the best
KEK. Hes fun as fuck and some people are useful with him but overall.. he needs a mobility buff.. and teammates should be able to see who he orbs.
>>344264910
You're penis needs a buff.
I would like the ability to healing ball people through walls.
It's fucking annoying having no mobility skills; everyone else has them, and it makes healing people running for/through cover for medikits a huge pain in the ass.
>>344265546
Zenyatta has to be in the action, its not hard to hit him.
>>344265620
*blinks behind you*
Heh, nothin personal kid...
*tickles you to death with Tracer's guns*
>>344264910
gr8 shitpost
>>344264910
>be zenyatta
>step on a pebble
>die
Has this happened to anyone else?
>>344265810
zenyatta doesn't touch the ground
>>344265810
>pebble
you mean junkrats traps??
oh all the time.
>>344265756
And you'd do the same with Sombra. So your point being?
>>344265181
LITERALLY describing tracer/genji vs any support.
>>344264910
the dude is dogshit and needs either better healing or someway to get in and out of the action where he needs to be
>>344266483
She'll be a sniper and be better than Zen because they can do their job at range
>>344266623
Not exactly, Lucio is annoying to kill and if you panic Symmetra can kill you.
>>344265937
>junkrats traps
HOW DOES THAT EVEN WORK!? HE FLOATS!
i'd like it if the healing orb didn't leave people I couldn't see
The only props I will give Zenyatta is that he is better at healing than Symmetra.
>MFW I get 3-4 golds every time I use Zenyatta
Go ahead, just keep telling yourself he's bad, /v/. I could use the guaranteed bling to pad my stats
>no escaping abilities
>150 health
If you cant kill him 1v1 its your problem
>>344268210
your mmr is just so low that no one on the enemy team goes for you. He is literally unplayable if the enemy team has a good tracer/genji/widow player.
zenyatta is pretty good, he's almost as good of a support as soldier 76 and he has as much health as d.va (out of mech)
>>344264910
He needs 50 more hp, that's really it.
>>344264910
Either a speed boost or 50 more hp. One of the 2. But might as well just git gud.
>0% pick in pro scene.
if there's someone who know what's good or bad in overwatch it's these guy. and they think he's shit
>>344264910
>150 health
>Absolutely no mobility options
>Still practically 1 shot by Widowmaker, 2 shot by reinhardt/mei/Hanzo,
>Hard countered by Hanzo, Mei, Reinhardt, Zarya, and Winston.
>Heals only 30HP a second to ONE target, and has to wait for travel time
>Orbs are line of sight based and can't even work with windows or through enemy shields
>Right click LOWERS orb damage to 30 per orb and can only be properly used on idel sentries and bastion
>ult is still affected by knockback and being pinned, only healing 100HP a second, the same as 2 fucking mercys.
>Has same fire rate as Mei's right click, but only does 45 damage an orb (90 + Discord) vs. her 75.
>Has a hitbox the size of canada because of his over-exaggerated animations that makes him an easy target, especially to projectiles
>Has no passives
>0% usage in competitive because hes so underpowered
Seriously, I love zenyatta, being able to play offensively while supporting and get kills is amazing, but at some point when you get into higher levels and everyone figures out the game, the magic goes away and Zen gets fucked by so many factors that he just can't compete with Mercy and Lucio for support/healing
They make him a very offensive and capable warrior, whos secondary job is debuff and healing, but he is so glass and immobile that he can't properly serve his designed functions right.
How would you buff Zen to make him more viable to better serve his roll as offensive healer?
Suggestions:
>50 HP +125 Shield
>Make Orbs instant like Zarya's shields and let them persist for 5-6 seconds out of Line of Sight
>Boost healing to 40 health per second
>Passive ability to not be affected by traps, splash damage, and other attacks based on the ground (because he is floating)
>Ult casts Discord to those in its range as well
>Can float and move freely in any direction moving at normal movespeed while holding jump
>>344264910
>during the beta, orbs stuck like fucking glue, you couldn't get rid of
>this was a bit too powerful, admittedly
>now they fall off if you don't keep your squishy ass staring at the target for the entire duration, putting yourself in harms way
>the healing orbs also won't stick even though they're credit to team
At least the Harmony Orbs should have remained stuck. A healer that doesn't have to place themselves firmly into another player's ass for the majority of the round is refreshing.
>>344269678
That, and Zen's not a full-blown healer either. Being the "second man" should really be his niche- for a team that's lacking slightly in total heal output or damage output, Zenyatta should be able to fill either role- stick extra heals on someone who will need it and let the actual healer insert themselves rectally, then deliver the sweet damage- and debuffs- alongside whatever front is doing the damage. When shit turns or a big push needs to be made, Zen's ultimate is perfect, since he should be near at least one useful teammate at all times.
>>344264910
The game is already balanced, people just need to git gud.
Blizzard will never allow skill to determine who succeeds and who fails, so we'll be stuck on their wild ride for the next 5 years at least.
Blizzard is discussing how to tune him so he's more viable in higher level play.
What should they do to not make him suck donkey balls on any rank over 50?
>>344264910
because he has no survive ability also 3 seconds on your balls is pretty shait.
>>344264910
FUCK OFF TO /VG/ WITH YOUR CANCER MEME GAME ALREADY
>>344269263
>Boost healing to 40 health per second
This would put him nearly on the same level as mercy, except unlike mercy, he would be 100% free to act while doing it.
>let orbs persist for 5-6 seconds out of Line of Sight
And this would ensure that his healing would be constant and reliable, essentially exempting him from paying attention to his healing target
He needs buffs, but if you gave him these two things, he would probably be a better healer than mercy. Let alone the other buffs.
>>344270506
Never harharharhar
