>pubs gone
>matchmaking is fucked up
>searching.
>searching..
>searching...
>searching....
>searching.....
>searching
>get penalized for leaving a casual game
>$9.99, $19.99 after sale is up, to play competitive if you don't want valve to have your phone number
Yep, TF2 has "met its match" alright, that match being a shitty development team trying their absolute fucking besthehto keep a nine year old game relevant.
So, how do you like Meet Your Match so far?
>>344264768
GO TEAM PYRO
It makes it harder for me to cheat.
R.I.P TF2
>>344265048
>cheating without lamoboxo
Explain yourself, o' mighty hacker.
Is competitive even something tf2 wanted? I thought it was all about playing on custom servers with wacky ass rules and wierd maps, or day global minimalist one tower maps with the damage cranked up 1000% percent
Who even pretends tf2 has been a balanced.competetive shooter since the first unlockable weapons and items came out 7-8 years ago?
>servers are shit when a new update is released
shocking. do you not remember when MvM was released?
Team heavy desu
>>344264768
Just give them your goddamn phone number already and stop complaining about the price
>>344264768
AHAHAHAHA,
this is the overwatch replica that people claim it's better?
Come the fuck on!
>>344265671
Not everyone has a phone with texting capabilities, dunce bucket.
>>344264768
Why are you still playing this garbage? Overwatch and Battleborn are both superior mobas
>>344265784
>Not everyone has a phone with texting capabilities
What. Are you living in the 1980's?
>pubs gone
They shot themselves in the foot with that one. This will trigger a good number of casuals to stop playing. Shame.. if theyre really trying to attract the overgoyim fanbase to their new competitive to get more players
>>344265784
what the fuck lol
who the hell doesn't have a phone capable of texting?
>>344265784
get bluestacks then
Go Team Pyro.
>>344265784
Its 2016 mate, having a basic phone is not only cheap but also essential if you want to be an adult.
>>344264768
These Jews ruined their own game to try to compete with Overmeme as if their shitty cartoon deathmatch shooter for autists was a worthy competitor to begin with. So long TF2. Glad to see that piece of shit sink after all these years to a meme shooter that looks like a disney dreamworks movie with waifu characters and talking animals. I'll stick with the superior Overmeme.
>no more pubs
Bravo valve. This game is gonna be more dead then it already is.
>>344266134
reported for underage
>>344265969
>>344266053
>It's [CURRENT YEAR] everyone has one!
>>344265910
>battleborn
>superior
kek
>>344264768
Casuals are not going to wait 40 minutes for a match they are not going to understand the server browser
Valve fucked up
>>344266207
Better than this hat simulator.
>>344266197
he's got a point though
>>344266134
>translation: I'm a cuck who can't go anywhere without his phone shoved up his ass
Fucking millenials.
>>344266263
t. millenial
>>344266318
t. millenial
>>344266318
I'm not the retard that treats his phone like a fucking butt plug 24/7/365.
>>344266197
This is the only instance of "privilege" i've seen demonstrated so visually.
>>344266197
>Comparing phones, anyone those people those bumfuck towns could get to Always on games
Sorry you're poor and need an Obama Phone though, senpai
>>344266354
yes I am
look up the date range
>>344266197
But there's nothing wrong with what he said. Fuck those people, they live in shitty areas.
>>344266263
>Having no idea what millennial means word means
>>344266414
You're fucking deluded if you think everyone has smart phones and texting capabilities.
>>344266509
>t. millenial
>>344266517
Is that why you're not playing overwatch because you can't afford anything
>>344266517
>Only smart phones can text
Even my grandma has a free phone that does texting, and it's shaped like a Blackberry. There isn't really an excuse
So much fighting and autism in this thread.
wow
>>344266682
How's your first night on /v/ going?
>>344266573
were you born after 1980? Congrats you are a millennial, just like everyone else on 4chan.
unless of course you are 40+ years old, then you should probably kill yourself
>>344266630
>Implying I want to play that game
>>344266650
http://www.pewinternet.org/2011/09/19/americans-and-text-messaging/
Only ~75% Americans can even send text messages retard.
>>344266486
No fuck you, I shouldn't have to be connected to the Internet to play single player games.
>>344266706
Not him, but this is my sixth year on here and I'm at a point where I want the autism to stop. No one even tries to have a little optimism or they just shitpost about anything and everything. It was fun a few years back but now this place is pitiful. I remember there'd always be some big fucking thing every now and then, like that anon in the Gone Home thread who laid down that sick fucking burn or the Pooh baseball game or tile patterns or Yoshi without a nose, just to name a few from recent memory. Now it's just shitflinging, no fun shitflinging and cancer, and even these fags, who'll decry those things I mentioned as childish bullshit, have become the vocal majority.
/v/ is fucking boring now, and I still come every day hoping one day we can freak out about something and have it stick.
>>344266850
>2011
>twenty-eleven
>two-thousand eleven
>>344266850
>has to pull studies from 5 years ago
Surely nothing has changed in 5 years, right?
>>344266740
That's a tiny window you made there. Where do you fit, anon?
>>344266957
>Now it's just shitflinging, no fun shitflinging and cancer, and even these fags, who'll decry those things I mentioned as childish bullshit, have become the vocal majority.
>Now
This board has always been shit, don't delude yourself
>>344264768
>you don't want valve to have your phone number
Literally why? If you're scared of le spooky gub'mint stealing your identity or some shit you probably don't even have steam in the first place, so what's the issue with giving a phone number?
>>344264768
>$9.99, $19.99 after sale is up, to play competitive if you don't want valve to have your phone number
Wait, what's this about?
>>344265992
>tf2 has been headed entirely by a three man team since forever
>yfw this is actually their attempt at sabotaging the game by changing up the environment to one that's not as stagnant-player-base friendly so that the remaining player base can finally hit triple digits on average and they can move on to other projects while only having to keep occasional tabs
>>344266850
>1/4 people can't text because more likely than not they aren't even aware of the resources that are available for people with lower income
I never said everyone in the world has a free phone, but a lot of people can get one
>>344267064
See this is an example of today's sheep, this poor lamb whipped into submission by the all-seeing, all-knowing capitalist war machine that is big business, all under the pretense of "security" when it's just more openings for the chains that will bind you into the yesman that will ultimately drag himself and his species into the consumerist singularity and end the world as we know it.
>>344267402
Not an argument.
>Comp not just straight up free to all accounts that were Premium before F2P
>have to be Premium AND add your number
>>344265105
GET LMAO
GET GOODBOX
>>344266192
That will really show me!
>>344266263
Why are you mad?
Phones are a neccessity in this day and age, while video games are a luxiours hobby.
>>344265784
>has a computer capable of playing recreational video games
>does not have a cellular communications device capable of simple text messaging
>>344268417
>dud3 like if ur phone can be like used as a phone u must be an xD me teenager xP :P
>>344268341
not that guy but I have a phone at home and a phone in my office and nobody has ever complained to me that they couldn't reach me
>>344268521
stop posting
why would I have a cellphone? I just want to play videogames
>current year
>not playing superior overwatch
It's like you don't want to have fun.
oy vey goyim
you can either give us your phone number or your money!
>>344264768
So does this mean community servers will get more popular?
I made it to age 18 without ever needing a cellphone. It would've been nice, but it's something that an antisocial fuck playing TF2 doesn't really need.
>>344264768
>Spy got a movespeed buff
Aww yeah nigguh.
>>344269390
21 here, same. Hell, both of my parents don't have a cellphone either and they're doing just fine.
I honestly don't even understand the point of a cellphone.
>Playing shitty games on the go
Why? If I need vidya to pass the time on a long road trip, I just bring a handheld with some actual quality games.
>Someone needs to talk to me
I say fuck off, surely it can wait until I'm back home.
>You can go on the internet and shitpost on the go
For what purpose. If I'm out, chances are I have something better to do than that.
Cellphones are useless as shit. Fuck you Valve.
>>344267402
(You)
>>344264768
Outside of wait times Casual is honestly pretty fun
>>344271969
>Cellphones
fellow 21yo here saying update your lingo, it's "smartphones" now anon
>>344272371
>wait times
>penalized for leaving
>can't pick the map you want
>no votekicks
they need to bring back the server browser and Valve pubs, keep casual mode if you want but Valve pubs need to return
>>344272763
Agreed.
>>344264768
>bought the game years ago with the orange box
>even bought several cosmetics and shit, which probably add up to around the price for a retail game
>still have to either pay 10 (soon 20) dollars or give them my phone number to play something that requires neither in other games
Fuck this. Not gonna reinstall for this.
I don't really care for the match making but what the hell is up with that Shortstop change?
I don't understand why you would give a weapon that's designed around mid-range combat a melee pushback.
>>344273016
>>still have to either pay 10 (soon 20) dollars or give them my phone number to play something that requires neither in other games
it's to keep out hackers, and CS:GO already has the same requirement
like i'd prefer not to have to pay either considering i bought the game way back when, but everyone can go premium for like 10 cents in the store now, so that wouldn't be a sufficient deterrent to hackers. that's why they need the 10 bucks or your phone number
>>344273125
Yeah, who needs proper cheat detection when you can just ask for money?
>>344267143
If you want to play matchmaking, your steam account needs to have a phone number connected to it for some reason. Matchmaking itself is free.
If you don't want valve to have your real phone number, you pay 20$ and they let you play.
Or you could buy a new sim card for a dollar and use that number.
>>344264768
at the very least I'm glad reddit is on our side. if there's anyone Valve would listen to it's their number 1 dicksuckers
>>344273434
They do have cheat detection though. They've had at least four VAC banwaves this year getting rid of hackers.
The problem is that the same hackers just keep generating alts and coming back over and over again. That's what happens with a free-to-play game. That's why Valve is instituting a one-time paywall or a phone number.
I realize that I sound like a massive fucking drone right now, and I don't agree with everything they do, but they've tried legal action against LMAOBOX devs and that didn't work, they've tried rooting out the program and manually banning people who used LMAOBOX and that doesn't stop them.
The only thing that will work is a paywall and phone number,OR maybe a timewall (eg you must have 400 hours on your TF2 account to play comp), although i guess people would just create a bunch of idling alts to bypass that one.
Their decision makes sense.
>>344271969
Mate are you stupid? What if someone near you has an accident and you need to call the ambulance? What if something happens to YOU? What if your parents need help right fucking now and you're the only one with a car?
If you're seriously too cheap to spend 20 bucks on a cheap nokia + a sim card then you're fucking stupid.
>>344271969
Ever since i finished school my phone has been essential for my life. I havent had a single job that doesnt require me to have my phone with me during the weekdays, and I would literally not have gotten any of them if I was not able to answer calls whereever I am.
I guess you just need to grow up first before you can see the importance of portable phones. They make life easier and more efficient for you.
>>344274838
>things that never happened: the post
>>344275432
obviously they never happened you retard, it's a "what if"
This update is fucking shite.
Should I just bite the bullet and buy Overwatch?
>>344275607
Overwatch has all the problems we hate this update for since release, in addition to having shit gameplay.
You decide.
>>344275743
Does Overwatch actually allow me to join a game?
Because TF2 seems pretty fucking reluctant to let me actually play it unless I hunt through the server browser for a server that doesn't have 60,000 shit plugins.
>>344272763
But the server browser is still there, anon.
>>344275827
That's obviously a problem with the servers/matchmaker not working, not a design decision.
Anyhow, this change is getting reverted or quickplay is getting added back in the next week. I can't see it not happening with the kind of fallout Valve has gotten over this.
>servers still have sv_pure 1 on
What's the fucking point?
Every time I try to join a Valve server since they put that shit on, my game just breaks. Community servers are better anyways.
>>344271969
>>344275432
this is what happens when you take /v/'s autistic contrarianism and apply it to real life
if you're a functioning adult there's literally no reason not to own a cellphone
>>344275827
You just click quick play or competitive play and then you are automatically playing 20 seconds later.
Gameplay can be debatable.
>>344275432
Are you for real?
Things like that happen on a daily occurance in our society, just because there has not been an emergency happening to you yet it doesnt mean it can happen tomorrow.
Can we talk about the changes?
>Nerfing the quick-fix AND negating one of its best features by giving it to every medigun
>Increasing spy move speed
>Adding basic clipping and cap time changes to maps that have been out since release or soon after
I'm going to play before I judge the changes, but I'm stunned that Volvo are still making such fundamental and sweeping balance changes nearly 10 years after the game was released
>>344276237
I agree, they fucked up the quickfix. It's still my favorite medigun, though.
>>344276237
>>344276361
Isn't the quickfix still the only one that lets you stay attached during rocket/stickyjumps?
>>344276361
Quick-Fix was OP as fuck in MM and deserved a nerf more than anything else.
>>344276413
True, haven't tested if that ability is now given to every other medigun too
>>344264768
>mfw the soda popper is dead
>mfw the critacola is still alive, its nerf is not even fucking noticable
>mfw every change heavy got was a nerf
>mfw the only good heavy unlocks now are the Tomislav/Sandvich/GRU
>mfw Scout can airblast now without ammo
>mfw Demo cant use boots with stickies to gain speed anymore
>mfw the quickiebomb got buffed, even though it was fine before
>mfw the cozy camper got nerfed but the danger shield did not
>mfw valve thinks the enforcer is supposed to counter the vaccinator
>mfw the righteous bison apparently needed to be nerfed
>mfw you can no longer create your own servers
>mfw you can no longer browse casual servers by map, or pick your own maps at all
>mfw casual mode actually has penalties for leaving.
>mfw casual mode is just matchmaking with 12 people
>mfw casual matchmaking takes forever
>mfw the item servers keep breaking
>mfw Asteroid and Cactus canyon are completely unplayable now
>mfw valve is rigging the stupid war towards pyro,
>mfw this update is about chosing which class wont be horrendously underpowered longer.
>mfw viewmodels are forced to 54 now, no turning off in comp mode
>mfw b4nny is a fucking hack and should never be allowed to go near another tf2 update
>mfw Community servers are the only way to escape this shit update
>mfw they added fucking purchasable gamble boxes to the mann co store
>mfw I just want tf2 to be how it was yesterday now, despite the fact it still wasn't very good.
I think this might be it for tf2 for me.
>>344276825
All these terrible changes reek of f4ggy. Noone at Valve actually plays the game, or any game for that matter, but even they wouldn't make such fucktarded changes.
>that sydney sleeper buff
My TF2 raifu is good again and I'm loving it.
>>344276237
Increasing Spy's movespeed was a good idea.
They just need to give him some kind of weapon that allows him to do something other than assassinate people, and bam, they've fixed the class for good.
>>344276825
>>mfw the soda popper is dead
Soda Popper is nowhere near dead, it still has better DPS than the Scattergun,
The balance problem with Soda Popper is that allowing Scout to basically fly means that Scout can avoid all projectile splash damage by jumping while fucking up Soldiers and Demos from midair.
It actually hasn't been nerfed enough, they need to go further.
>mfw every change heavy got was a nerf
Competitively Heavy is actually quite a strong class. The only reason he's not used more in competitive 6s is because they intentionally ban GRU so that both teams don't always have a Heavy, since Heavies slow down the game.
While I agree nerfing Natascha and Brass Beast was a stupid idea and they should have nerfed the GRU and EN instead, Heavy did actually need nerfs.
>mfw Scout can airblast now without ammo
won't matter, it doesn't do anything to projectiles and still nobody will use Shortstop anyway
>mfw the cozy camper got nerfed but the danger shield did not
While I agree Dickcuck shield should have been nerfed too, Camper deserved that nerf. 100% flinch resistance removed the only form of counterplay that many classes have against Sniper at range.
>mfw the righteous bison apparently needed to be nerfed
>mfw the righteous bison apparently needed to be nerfed
>mfw you can no longer create your own servers
>mfw you can no longer browse casual servers by map, or pick your own maps at all
>mfw casual mode actually has penalties for leaving.I agree totally, what the literal fuck was up with all of those? What were they smoking?
>>344277405
>Well we certainly wouldn't want soldier to have a hard time doing anything would we?
>I'm not a comp player, balancing the game around a minority circle jerk just sounds stupid
>I would never justify a stupid mechanic by "people wont use it anyway"
>I think this is more of a question of priorties, the dangershield fucked shit up a lot worse than the camper.
>>344277405
>Heavy did actually need nerfs
NO HE DIDN'T
STOP TRYING TO COMPLETELY REMOVE HEAVY FROM THE GAME YOU DISGUSTING SOLDIER MAINS
>>344277405
>mfw you can no longer create your own servers
???????????????????
open console -> write map "name of the map" like cp_badlands -> press enter
>>344277781
Comp is not a "minority circlejerk" though, it's a legitimate part of tf2, get with the times or fuck off.
I stopped playing 6 years ago, are hats still obnoxious as fuck?
>>344277914
that doesn't start a listen server you retard
>>344278014
fuck off
>>344278096
why would you if theres serveme?
>>344278014
yes, there's a mod to disable them though, google it.
>>344265784
Is your phone a fucking 1980's brick?
what the fuck?
>>344278014
the game is absolutely terrible now ive been playing since 2008 and oh my it has not aged well i stopped about 3 years ago and booted it up and apart from the visuals the gameplay is pretty bad not as good as vanilla.
as soon as the game went f2p it turned into complete shit
>finally got put into a match
This better be worth it
>casual mode
>payload
>have to play 2 stopwatch style rounds or face a penalty
>this is casual mode
what really gets me is that they already tried this once and apparently didn't get the hint
sometime last year valve pubs were removed from the server browser and were only accessible through quickplay for about a day - this of course caused huge backlash and was promptly reverted
i don't get why they keep pushing for this or where they got the idea that it's something anyone wants, i really don't
>>344277982
The tf2 comp scene is signfiicantly smaller and probably makes up about 2% of its actual playerbase.
and yet we're letting cucks like b4nny determine the entire direction of the game.
>>344277781
>Well we certainly wouldn't want soldier to have a hard time doing anything would we?
I'm not a Soldier main and i actually want some of Soldier's unlocks nerfed (I post on here bitching about Escape Plan, Bazooka, and Disciplinary Action a lot, for example). But I can also realize that Scout is by far one of the best classes in the game. He's the best DM class and the best objective-capping class.
Old Soda Popper was basically a direct upgrade to the Scattergun, it made him stronger against EVERY class, not just Soldier and Demo.
>I'm not a comp player, balancing the game around a minority circle jerk just sounds stupid
We have to balance the game around matchmaking now. Pubs can get by being imbalanced, but competitive can't. And now that competitive is an official part of TF2, it'll stop being a "minority circle jerk" which I agree 6s kind of has been for a long time.
>I would never justify a stupid mechanic by "people wont use it anyway"
Alright then, let me rephrase that: It won't make Short Stop overpowered. Short Stop sacrifices DPS for DPM, and that's rarely useful to a Scout. An "airblast" that is melee range and can't reflect projectiles is also rarely useful.
>I think this is more of a question of priorties, the dangershield fucked shit up a lot worse than the camper
Danger Shield definitely needed to be nerfed too, I agree with that, but it's good they gave Camper the nerf it needed anyway. I have been agitating for a DDS nerf on SPUF for a long time now, and will continue to do so.
>teles only cost 50 metal, 25 metal with the Eureka Effect
>the gibs still give you 60 metal
>>344278871
Do you actually believe that b4nny "determines the entire direction of the game"? Surely they listened to his and other comp players input but that doesn't mean that Valve strictly follows it, if anything, latest changes go against many ideas that comp players had.
>>344278920
Well of course we have to balance the game around matchmaking.
thats all thats fucking left.
From what I'm seeing a lot of the shit that was poppoing up in comp was the main focus of the nerfs
>Rip Heavy's unlocks, heavy was a fuctioning anti soldier so naturally he deserves to be nerfed
>Rip Sodapoper, cant have soldier be bad at anything, but I guess the crit a cola, a weapon most people complained about is fine.
>B4nny thinks that the Sticky boots setup for demo is stupid, obviously needs to be nerfed, Soldier is the only class allowed to trade a weapon for mobility after all
I'm just saying this update kicked the casual scene in the balls, and is sucking the comp scene's dick.
Even though one scene was significantly larger than the other, b4nny himself said the comp scene is probably less than 2,000 people overall.
>>344278871
Hey, you're the guy who asked me to storytime about b4nny being a literal cuck, aren't you?
And look, while I agree he is a cuck, I still agree with many of these changes whether or not they had anything to do with him.
A few of the balance changes were really fucking stupid, and replacing pubs with some bullshit pub-competitive hybrid abomination was a terrible idea, but otherwise the update was pretty good.
>>344277854
I'm not a Soldier main and I don't want Heavy removed from the game. You have to understand that he's actually really fucking strong.
The Natascha nerf and the Brass Beast nerf were undeserved, but as for GRU, try actually looking at it for a second. Look at its upsides and downsides.
Upside is that it allows Heavy to move 30% faster, reaching the front line at the same speed as normal classes. Considering his main balancing weakness is low speed, this is pretty big.
Downside is that he does less melee damage, which is almost totally irrelevant, because Heavies rarely use their melee for damage.
The other downsides are the swap-to penalty and the "marked for death while active and for three seconds after". Those ones are the relevant ones, but they're still not enough.
Heavies simply switch away from the GRU about 3 seconds before they've reached the front line of battle. This means you don't take any mini-crits, so you've gotten to the battle faster for no downside.
Heavy is a class with very high damage, the highest Health in the game, average range. His only weaknesses as a class are getting to the battle slowly, taking time to rev up, and moving even slower while revved.
Add Sandvich and GRU into that mix and you've got a tanky, powerful, decently ranged class who can reach the frontline at roughly the same speed as everyone else, as well as being able to heal himself or toss medium medkits every 30 seconds.
This is why GRU needs to be nerfed. They picked the wrong weapons to nerf, though.
>>344278762
It was like three or four years ago, there was an additional quickplay option that was in beta for some time and then got abandoned.
TF2 going Free to Play was a mistake.
>>344279683
>His only weaknesses as a class are getting to the battle slowly, taking time to rev up, and moving even slower while revved.
And zero mobility.
And a giant hitbox.
And being outdamaged by every class past 5 meters.
And REQUIRING a medic to be on your ass at all times if you don't want to be destroyed by chip damage or the first soldier that looks at you.
Guess what the medic also needs to do? Heal the soldiers and scouts, and not babysit your weak ass that is only useful for stopping bombs.
>>344279658
>>Rip Heavy's unlocks, heavy was a fuctioning anti soldier so naturally he deserves to be nerfed
I agree the unlocks they chose to nerf were a bad idea. They should have nerfed GRU and EN, not Natascha and Brass Beast.
>Rip Sodapoper, cant have soldier be bad at anything, but I guess the crit a cola, a weapon most people complained about is fine
Yea, I agree critacola should have been nerfed more. And I agree Soldier's unlocks need to be nerfed too, particularly Free Speed Boost Plan (pic related), which is a buff to Soldier that he doesn't need and is bad for class and weapon balance.
But Soda Popper, like I said, made Scout stronger against every single class, and he's already one of the strongest classes in the game. The nerf was deserved.
>B4nny thinks that the Sticky boots setup for demo is stupid, obviously needs to be nerfed, Soldier is the only class allowed to trade a weapon for mobility after all
Actually yes. Sometimes I wonder if Gunboats should go from 60% damage reduction to 50% damage reduction, considering how efficiently it's replaced Shotgun. If it's not okay for there to be a Demo boots item that replaces his weapon, why is it okay for Soldier?
>I'm just saying this update kicked the casual scene in the balls
These changes are necessary for the new matchmaking scene which will encompass all players (who can be assed to put in their phone number/cough up dosh), instead of just those 2,000 circlejerking cunts who ban weapons like Sharpened Volcano Fragment because they find it boring.
>>344279658
not him, but you make it sound like scout is not a fucking cunt in the game just like soldier. Scout is a really strong class, just that most people fucking suck at it, and also, jumping around is not just to fuck up the fight against demos or soldiers but also classes trying to defend the medic from a bird scout.
Soda need more changes, yes.
The boots already allows you to survive more withou loosing stickies, to the people where you see people using just for the extra health, especially using it with kritz since you are not invulnerable under it. If you want mobility, grab the sticky jumper and learn to aim grenades, but because of the fucked up balance of the game, you reach the point were you need some kind of spam or shit like that so scouts have it harder to rape people. Don't randombly bring the topic of soldier when you talk about scouts because it sounds like if you don't understand how fucking strong scout can be on its own.
They still fucked up by forcing that matchmaking shit.
What's all this about getting penalized for leaving a game?
>>344279935
TF2 was a mistake its spawned my most hated sub genre
fps/tps moba's i fucking hate them.
such a shame because 2007-2010 the game was amazing then instead of letting it die naturally they made it go f2p and where one of the first big devs with a popular game to do so back then now its normal they set a trend and i hate them for it.
They cant even be fucked making new games anymore that have to be the laziest developers in the world no new titles for over 5 years
>>344264768
>>$9.99, $19.99 after sale is up, to play competitive if you don't want valve to have your phone number
This is probably the most insulting thing about this update.
People love to complain about Blizzard, but then they turn around and defend shit like this.
>>344264768
It seems just one person leaving prevents the team/server from getting any exp.
>>344280327
How much you wanna bet the people who go
>lol just give Valve your number are you a grandpa lmao!
Are the same people who go
>FUCK M$ FOR WANTING MY DATA FUCK WINDOWS LINUX FOR LIFE LOLLL
>>344280473
desu literal spyware: the OS isn't the same as just giving valve your phone number
>>344280205
Steak was nerfed too, even though I literally haven't seen it used by anyone in 5 years
If anything, the steak needed the damage vulnerability removed completely, not increased by 150% for no fucking reason.
Jesus Christ why does Valve have to employ people that don't even play vidya.
>>344274838
I'll rather not carry around a useless electronic when there's literally millions of phones out there in public to use. Not to mention it's a huge waste of money in the first place.
>>344274229
>Their decision makes sense.
Does it?
There's tons of F2P games where devs regularly ban hacks and accounts every week.
Couldn't they just tie TF2 to your SteamID as well? I literally don't see the problem and needing a phone number.
>>344264768
>oh no I can't possibly use a server browser because I'm a cum guzzling faggot
>matchmaker please find shitty servers for me or else I will cry an autismload
>>344280671
If you're using any proprietary software, you're already giving much more than your phone number.
>>344280327
fuck off cheating retard
I'm glad you won't be able to play, everybody is. Nobody wants to play with you.
>all mediguns make you match target speed, instead of just the quick fix
I don't know what is happening anymore
>>344280895
I have a fucking beta pass and a phone number in valve and I wouldnt pay 1 cent to play this mode.
>>344281123
good thing you don't have to, idiot
>>344281123
if you bought anything in the game or bought the game you're able to play comp
I'm not sure but if you were in the beta, you are also able to play comp
>>344279947
>And zero mobility
Already addressed that one, duderino.
>And a giant hitbox.
He does have a bit larger bulletbox for his body, but his projectile collision hull and head bulletbox is the same as that of every other class.
>And being outdamaged by every class past 5 meters
vs Scout w/pistol, Heavy has 38 less DPS, but no reload time
vs Soldier w/RL, Heavy has 12 less DPS, but hitscan and no reload time
vs Pyro w/shotguni know you're thinking what about flare? but shotgun is the meta pyro secondary because it's a lot better for general useHeavy has 78 more DPS and no reload time
vs Engie, 78 more DPS, and no reload time
vs Medic w/xbow, Heavy has 6 less DPS and hitscan
vs Sniper w/Rifle, Heavy will die in one shot (as is tradition)
vs Spy w/ambassador, a spy who lands every headshot has 64 more DPSI did say "Heavy has average range", anon
>Guess what the medic also needs to do? Heal the soldiers and scouts, and not babysit your weak ass that is only useful for stopping bombs
it's not hard to heal both anon, I play a lot of Medic
>>344280787
>There's tons of F2P games where devs regularly ban hacks and accounts every week
the less popular a game is, the less people are incentivized to cheat, the same principle behind why you'll find less viruses on Macs
>Couldn't they just tie TF2 to your SteamID as well?
Anon people generate new steam accounts is what I mean.
>>344281449
>Already addressed that one, duderino.
no you didn't. heavy not only moves slow, which is everything in a competitive game, he also has no vertical mobility, which makes him even worse
stop pretending like heavy is any good in any serious setting. he is only ever used for 10 seconds as a last ditch effort to defend last
man valve wouldnt it neat if you teamed me up with 23 of these 824 players who fit me and gave us one of the 3k servers to play on
>>344282159
If they want to keep people playing the game, they're going to change half of those 3k servers back into quickplay ones.
Their matchmaking for TF2 is dogshit, it's exactly the same with MvM. A billion empty servers but you still have to wait for 10 minutes while the system figures out how to get people into a game.
>>344281621
>he also has no vertical mobility, which makes him even worse
I'll admit that's a downside I somehow managed to overlook, but do you know what vertical mobility is good for?
2 main things: Firing from high ground (important to Soldiers and Demos because being able to shoot downwards at enemies allows you to use splash damage on the ground around them, rather than having to hit them directly, while they must direct or airshot you to hit you back), and for getting to the battle more quickly (like I said, already addressed),
Heavy is a class who uses solely hitscan and is slow moving (with low ability to dodge projectiles), so high ground is not a necessity for him. He was going to shoot directly at his target anyway because he doesn't have splash, and splash affects him less because he has high health in lieu of needing to dodge. So, not having high ground is not a worry, and since hitting "directs" with Heavy is easy, he fucks over classes who rely on that.
Getting to the battle more quickly has already been addressed.
>stop pretending like heavy is any good in any serious setting. he is only ever used for 10 seconds as a last ditch effort to defend last
Because they ban GRU and Disciplinary Action, anon, meaning he's far too slow to run to mid. If it was unbanned, he'd be run to mid all the time, which is why I have been proposing GRU and DA need nerfs. At what point did you jump into this discussion?
>>344264768
>tf2 has been in development for 18 years.
>>344266197
>Blacksburg VA
>Virginia Tech
>College that it felt like half of fucking Virginians went to
>Why would I live there
http://venturebeat.com/2013/04/10/adam-orth-fired-microsoft-xbox-exec-who-insulted-fans-appears-to-have-joined-the-ranks-of-the-jobseekers/
Lemme guess, he's some Pacific North-West Nu-male or Californian?
>>344264768
Fucking aces.
>tfw my favorite community server was more than full for the first time in years.
>He still plays TF2
>>344283337
>overwatch was gonna be free
>people overhyped it
>>344265784
all of these normies replying to this because they are literally fucking retarded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRSW9XbXd3s
>>344265784
>>344283489
The first text message was sent in 1992, and in 1993 you could start texting on your cell phone
You are literally a poorfag or autistic if you don't have a phone capable of sending people text messages
Just wanted to drop in and say if you pickedPyro you're weak, your bloodline is weak, and I hope you like Pyro symbol on your children's gravestones because they will not survive the WAR.
>>344264768
The two times I got into a match were definitely funner than your average pub. Unfortunately those two times had like an hour waiting time each.
>>344265048
This, only reason I play TF2 anymore and valve makes it harder and harder, fuck off your dead game.
F U C K
>>344285420
Checkmate, commiefags
This is the worst update TF2 has ever had, its literally killed the game
>>344286286
yep, expect some hard backpedalling from valve soon
>>344277982
No, its a fucking minority circlejerk
>>344277982
I bet you think esports are actual sports.
>>344280220
Exactly what it sounds like
>>344287116
I could see tf2 losing around 20k players if they dont bring back quick play.
>>344287812
Ive already contemplated uninstalling
All my favorite community servers are dead, and im not playing FUCKIN, MATCHMAKING.
>>344287812
It's really sad because I dropped two cases in the CS:GO tourney going on right now, totalling to about 15€ and wanted to spend it on TF2.
Now I've changed my mind, unless they fix the game they're not getting my money. And I am sure I'm not the only person.
It's been 20 minutes. What am I doing wrong?
>>344287981
nothing, it's just broken
>>344287981
Its broken
>>344287483
Dont try to argue with compfags
They shit up every game they play despite being an extreme minority 9/10 times
>>344287981
You played tf2, nyuk nyuk nyuk.
>>344288290
Heh
>>344274093
>if there's anyone Valve would listen to it's their number 1 dicksuckers
Underrated post.
This is very true, Valve WILL cave in to Plebbit outcry
>>344264890
Add me pyro friend
http://steamcommunity.com/id/the_dick_show
>>344288618
Does Valve EVER backpedal aside from the paid mod shit?
>>344289176
They nerfed sticky once but demo main and the "pro" cried so hard they reverted it
are we able to change our FOV anymore
>no more shitty valve servers hoovering all the newbies
>the real private server scene will flourish again
Valve propably will revert the changes once Redditors whine enough, but we can still enjoy this while it lasts.
>>344289262
Thanks for reminding me about that
Meanwhile havy has the stupid rev up time bullshit
>>344289527
>community servers
>not trash
Pick one, all the good ones died long ago
>>344287939
I'm pretty much not going to be playing until the backpedaling ends.
If they dont then I guess thats it for my 3,000 hour tf2 career.
>>344289637
that's because heavy is so bad that nobody mains him, so there's nobody to cry about him being bad
>>344289735
The demand will cause new ones to pop up, I'm sure of that.
I wish they would have updated the shitty browser though. It is very hard to find good servers because of it.
>playing on community server because valve servers are gone
>admin comes on and everyone is circlejerking him while he threatens to ban people constantly for doing something he doesn't like
>'admin' comes on the mic with the most smug, fat, and self appreciative voice ever
GIVE ME BACK VALVE SERVERS GOD DAMMIT
>>344289176
Same with the R8 in CSGO. Though I think that was planned because I refuse to believe anyone could be that retarded.
>Lets add a gamebreaking overpowered revolver in the game, make a special case for it that costs more and let people buy it for 3 days while everyone cries about it. After 3 days we will nerf it but not before earning a shitload of money with the new case.
This sounds way more plausible than
>Hey I have a good idea for a new weapon in Counter-Strike! A revolver that one shots when you hit someone anywhere but their toes. Also it has a long range and when you left click there's a delay before you shoot. Oh but if you are in close range you can just spam the shot with right click so its still OP then.
Than this
>>344289809
I feel you beo, absolutely fucking ridiculous
>>344289913
THIS
FUCK COMMUNITY SERVERS
>>344289913
community servers are the worst
admins and the people who circlejerk around them are absolute cancer
>>344290127
>>344289913
>>344290245
>waah, I am too retarded to find a good server
Thanks to mouthbreathers like you, many new games don't have private servers at all.
>>344265671
So what's this about phones? I have the app, if that's what you're talking about, because I like to trade and they made trading without the app a nightmare.
Are you saying you only have to pay for access to comp if you don't have the app?
>>344290305
>stop playing on the servers without powertripping cunts, retarded plugins and other assorted retardation
There is a reason community servers died you faggot
>>344290305
>wanting to filter through a bunch of shit servers just so you can play the game without a bunch of annoyances
>wanting to download all the crap the comes with a new server every time
kys
>>344290305
There are literally no community servers that have no shitty addons and just a bunch of bullshit, find ONE server without those things, I dare you, you won't find it
>>344288989
add me too pyro friend :3 *hugs*
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198079706213
>>344265910
>TF2
>ASSFAGGOTS
What the fuck, summer.
>>344290606
I used to host servers. If the demand is enough I'll make a server again and make sure there's no extra bullshit.
>>344290686
kill yourself
>>344290702
oh come on, even summer isnt capable of that.
>>344291956
This is just terrible
>>344265784
Are you using cans with strings anon? Those arent phones
>>344264768
update is a huge joke
Thought I'd jump into casual for a quick game before work, ended up being an hour long.
>Righteous Bison: Fixed a bug causing players to be hit by the same projectile multiple times
>Fixed a bug
>a bug
>bug
>BUG
>BUG
>BUG
>BUG
>BUG
>BUG
>>344294378
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>344294378
>>344281449
>people still think raw dps means anything in this game
scout, soldier and demo tend to outdamage heavy in most actual combat situations because THEY FIRE IN BURSTS
>>344271969
Life is gonna hit you really hard when you get out of highschool
>>344294378
They nerfed the righteous bison.
one of the worst weapons in the game, got nerfed.
Overwatch here i come.
>>344264768
Get fucked free 2 play
>>344293250
>hour long casual match
>you can't quit
what a fucking joke
>>344264768
It's dead jim. I've had fun playing since 2011 but its finally over RIP.
>>344294936
it applies to people who played since release too you stupid faggot
>>344295639
What's wrong with giving valve your phone number?
>>344275930
One would think that someone would be on this now. I doubt they just rolled out this update, didn't hang around to see how it went and just went home.
>>344295713
>>344295842
that's clearly loss
>>344294576
>>344265048
all the griefing, the GOOD KIND was all done back in 2007-2010
RIP COUPONBUGDOTCOM
>>344295842
I still don't get this meme. How is it greedy at all?
real good fucking update here valve, having real fun here playing medal clicker
>people complaining you have to give them your phone number
>/v/ uses their phones for nothing other than emulators and browsing the internet
i just don't understand
WE DID IT REDDIT
So in Casual mode you only rank up when you win or what?
>>344264768
>$9.99, $19.99 after sale is up, to play competitive if you don't want valve to have your phone number
>$19.99
>>344295842
>>344296482
samefag
>Have to give phone number
>Security features include having to give cell phone number
I don't have a fucking cell-phone, fuck off valve.
>>344288989I rather not, thanks
>>344296791
>I don't have a fucking cell-phone
This meme will never get old
>>344268341
>Phones are a neccessitiy
how so?
https://github.com/Jessecar96/SteamDesktopAuthenticator
faggots
>>344280223
Valve has more money than god and they give you hats.
i added my phone number and now i gotta be a premium member? how does this garbage shit work, i dont wanna spend 10 bucks, thats too much for this game.
>>344296482
are you okay?
>>344297049
This unfortunately still requires a working cellphone.
The problem is the Steam verison of the Authenticator only works for Apple/Andoird
So if you own any other kind of cellphone you're fucked.
I have a widows phone so I have to use the desktop auth
>>344297478
just buy the cheapest item in the store
its literally 49 cents
>>344265220
A lot of people wanted matchmaking, but they didn't want it to replace everything else.
>>344290414
because they had shitty valve servers take over?
>pubs gone
Haven't played TF2 in forever
Pls explain
>>344297023
I don't I'm a social recluse shut-in with no friends. The only reason to have a cell-phone is to get annoyed by my shitty job when I'm not at work. Fuck that.
>>344297868
this shit is pretty funny to be honest family
got anymore?
>>344296680
nope
>>344297730
the serverswit the most "vanilla" experience without power tripping mods can now longer be selected via the server browser, and now you have to wait in matchmaking for 10 minutes or so to find a "balanced" team, and if you leave in casual mode you get penalized
>>344282159
>playing with the german client
Noch nicht alt genug für Englisch Unterricht Kleiner ?^^
>>344297730
it means you now have to play with powertripping cunts
all the good servers are gone and now rolled into matchmaking, which can last anywhere from 10 minutes to an hour, and you get penalized for leaving (yes even the casual matchmade games)
>>344297585
they already released a windows phone version m8
>>344298142
You can still join valve servers through the server browser tho
>>344264768
>>$9.99, $19.99 after sale is up, to play competitive if you don't want valve to have your phone number
I don't see problem in this. It's made to combat hackers, Valve doesn't give a fuck about what number you have. No one does.
>>344298253
no you literally can't
they don't accept connections unless the matchmaking server tells them to, similar to how MvM mannup servers will reject you unless the server sees your ticket and gives you a greenlight
