>Valve release ranked mode
IT'S OVER. Overwatch is finished.
Valve just can't be stopped.
http://www.teamfortress.com/meetyourmatch/
>>344263378
Who here agrees that removing pubs was a good thing?
How slow are you? Everyone knows about it already, and it's poorly implemented.
>>344263428
I don't, where am I gonna get free kills for my stranges?
>>344263446
how so?
>>344263378
Seems like someone hasn't tried it yet.
>>344263378
Haven't tried it yet. I hope valve inputs better hit reg on comp servers, or I'm just not going to play.
Dead Game
>>344263446
t. Blizzard shill
Overwatch sure has some flaws, but it is infinitely more fun than Team heavy+medic to win. I honestly don't get why people are defending TF2 so much it's incredibly boring.
>>344263378
They should just add a few waifus and Overwatch is finnished
>>344263864
Seriously, do some research before you bait.
>>344263378
"Overwatch is finished" Haha keep telling yourself that
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Did they fix queue times yet? I was waiting for a solid 10 minutes before I gave up.
>>344263864
>not having a good sniper or scout on your team to assassinate medics
incorrect method of gameplay, comrade.
TF2 has been dead for years
>>344263962
It's day 1 after the update, what did you expect?
>>344263378
nice just 2-3 years late
This will bring back a good number of players I think. Stock TF2 matches are what people have wanted for ages.
Honestly more competitive then Overwatch "competitive" I think.
>>344263962
Holy shit this. Haven't been able to get into a single game all day.
What does Valve even do these days? They don't develop games, they don't provide Steam support personnel, and they clearly don't allocate any staff to the successful rollout of new features.
I would pay good money to be a fly on the wall at Valve because whatever's going on there it ain't anything productive.
>>344263929
Is playing the game enough reserch, dumbass? It's a painfully boring piece of shit. Why defend it so hard? Not like you lose anything if you stop playing, it's a fucking free game. Fuckface.
Honestly, the only thing that should be removed from casual mode are the abandoning penalties.
Are the patch notes fine?
>>344264362
Yeah, TF2 is the game I go to when I get B& from CSGO for DC/afk/kick.
Now I will get B& from TF2 as well and have nothing but boring ass rocket league to play. Fuck my life.
great, more "COMPETITUVE GAY-MING!", here comes the cancer
but TF2 is the worst Valve product
>>344264654
You sure did spell Dota 2 funny.
Whoever designed Powerhouse deserves to be shot
this will bring back a few players but wont come close to killing blizzshills powerhouse drawing in new players. TF2 is 9 years old.
Jesus christ i feel like a fucking grandpa.
>>344263428
>>344263502
community servers you poops
>>344265103
Yes, that's why I stated in my post that I'm agreeing with the change.
So I can just AFK and avoid abandon punishment?
Like in MvM? If yes, what's the point.
>>344264046
>always in the top 20 for Steam players online
>dead, layel!
>finally get into a game
>our team has only 7 players, the other has 12
>four of my teammates are Spies
Fucking hell Valve.
>"casual" game mode is casual only in name
>you get punished for leaving valve servers
Why do they think that people want tf2 to be like cs:gay, dota, or overfad? TF2 is supposed to be fun. I don't want forced competitive bullshit in the game, leave it to 3rd parties
>All these people dc'ing comp matches and making it not count for anyone
Thanks, cuntlords.
I sure do love locked 75 FOV!
Pro tip; if you want drop-in drop-out matches, there's still community servers. Casual matchmaking is a joke.
>>344265471
>there's still community servers
>implying the good servers didn't all die a long time ago
Yea.
This will bounce it back up.
mmhmm.
>>344263378
Now if I only could play the damn game instead of having to wait for it to connect to the matchmaking system without any success
so how much do i have to pay for mm?
>>344265894
your time and your soul
>>344265894
$10 or your phone number
>>344265663
If Vavle would stop being a bunch of knuckleheads and get their shit together, they could fix that issue.
>>344263378
>want to play tf2 ranked
>haven't played since 2013
>was barely decent with soldier and scount
How hard will my shit be pushed in if i play today?
>>344263378
All the content in the update is community made. Why are Valve so fucking lazy? What do they actually DO all day every day?
>>344266031
well valve already has my number so number it is, haven't played in a while any tips for a retired Engineer?
>pubs are gone
>idiot 3rd/4th snipers/spies either quit or try casual mode
>eventually all of the non-idiots rank up past idiot snipers
>no one left in low ranks to carry shitty snipers' selfish play style
>they quit, never to burden normal players ever again
Where were you when Valve made up for their F2P mistake?
>>344266143
Make hl3
>>344263378
is there ranked ctf?
>>344266143
You're just now realizing this??
>>344266181
>implying pubs being gone is a good thing
even less players. Bravo valve
>>344266410
even less shitters*
This is the greatest thing ever. Bravo indeed.
>>344265283
This reminds of the time when rd_asteroid used to played by almost the same players to the point that you could start remmembering their names and gradually, after every single time you read "rd_asteroid" in the patch notes (mostly pointless shit), you would came across people who had no idea about what they were doing and ragequiting letting you with 10~ vs 4~ players per team. This is like those times but fucking worse.
>>344266410
Removing pubs was a great idea. Casual mode needs to be tweaked, not removed.
>>344265471
It's hard to find community servers that could came close to the idea of old valve servers. Two main reason are servers with a shitload of crap on them (some gamechanging like respawn time or not being able to build mini sentries or "donate for x perk"), or you find servers that are so populated that even the admins gets kicked out of their own servers. It's an option, yeah, but the change was unnesary. They have their head far up their asses.
I haven't checked it yet but.
Is it 6v6 or 12v12?
Are random crits off or on?
If both are the latter then it's stupid to have competitive in the first place.
>>344266742
Then get a group of friends and host a server. It's literally 25$ for a month of hosting.
>>344266817
6v6 is competetive, no crits/spread.
12v12 is casual, crits and spread enabled.
Just a FYI, casual works the same way as comp, where you'll get timed out if you leave the match in progress.
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>Overwatch shills saying TF2 is dead
>It was, in fact, thriving and always better than Overwatch in every respect
>Valve actually went ahead and killed it themselves
>>344264279
>They don't develop games
Who told you that?
>>344266519
pubs were great for players that wanted to just dick around in a 64 man server. This is for sure gonna kill the game even more. Enjoy
>noob map
wtf volvo
>2016
>CS:GO and TF2 still haven't been ported to Source 2
>Let's just let these games keep getting more and more bloated instead of porting them to an engine that accommodates that
>release ranked mode 9 years late
>not even default weapons
>>344266941
>dick around
By that you mean get carried. Because truly dicking around is/was entirely possible on trade servers. I'm glad such people are leaving. I will enjoy this.
Now they only need to roll back f2p.
>Pubs are gone
Wew lad, there goes just dicking around. I'll sure enjoy my time out for disconnecting during a match. GG valve.
>ranked mode in a now 9 year old game
>kills off pubs
what the fuck were they thinking. This takes away so much from the game and it being a traditional valve one at that. Surely everyone here is just memeing when they say itll be an overwatch competitor? I mean shit, its been dead since 2011
Alt tabbing in full screen is instant now. How did they fix that? Used to take ages to alt tab
>>344267171
You installed more ram at some point. The only time ALT+TAB'ing was ever slow was if you only had <2GB of ram. Once you've got 4GB of ram or more, it's instant when you ALT+TAB in and out. It's been like this forever.
>>344267093
>>344267151
Pubs are not gone fucking braindead retard. There is still a server browser
>>344267058
Do Valvecucks always sound like Ledditors?
I mean, TF was slowly dying of cancer before but this update has put a bullet straight through it's head. Thanks valve.
Anyone who think this update has been good see the file attached.
>>344267281
No retard, source games take ages to alt tab no matter how much ram, csgo too. You prolly play on borderless idiot
>"Ever since the first apes climbed out of the trees, there were apes who did it faster. Some apes just fell out of the tree. It's a sad fact that all apes are not created equal. Presenting our newest tree-climbing-down simulator, matchmaking. Play alone or with your friends against players of similar skill levels. Climb out of that tree at your own speed, confident that the apes around you aren't beating you to the bananas. Which technically grow IN trees, but maybe the ripest ones probably fall to the ground? Yeah, that makes sense. Look, this isn't a banana simulator, people."
that's advertisement has better writing than the entirety of overwatch lore
>>344267228
>>344267303
>b-but server browser
>get fucked in the ass by admins, billion plug-ins, bronies and circlejerking "regulars"
>muh pubs
>muh dicking around
>muh being a burden on the team
>QQ i'm quitting dead gaem
Don't let the door hit you on the way out lmao.
>u can try community servers
i dont want to play with a bunch of bronies and attention whoring gamer girls and their army of orbiter beta cucks
>but muh lotus clan
kill yourself shill
>>344263378
It died when it went F2P nothing can save this dead shit rofl.
>>344267384
No retard. I've actually been playing TF2 since forever on a crap-ass PC that has been slowly updated overtime.
I remember the days of 2GB DDR2 ram on my Core 2 Duo machine clear as day and how ALT+TAB'ing during the middle of a TF2 game would hang like crazy for upwards of 20 seconds trying to load back in.
Then I upgraded that machine to 6GB of DDR2 ram and that alt+tab hanging issue VANISHED. This was years ago, man.
>>344267450
t. Valvedrone
so from what ive managed to read so far
>penalty for leaving casual
>if someone leaves youre permanently down one player for the whole game
literal antifun injection what the fuck
>>344264297
Why so defensive?
>>344264415
Shit that matters:
Spy's base movespeed increased by 6.66%
Direct flame damage reduces heal rate by 25%
Cola got small nerf, soda popper got huge nerf
Whip got nerfed a bit
Cozy camper nerfed, Sydney sleeper buffed
Nat and brass beast nerfed
All mediguns let medic match patient movespeed
Quick fix nerfed
Dropped mediguns gradually lose the ubercharge stored in them
Demoman booties don't give movespeed unless you also have a shield
Teleporters only cost 50 metal to make
>>344267674
>permanently
No, it will sub in people.
>>344265270
Because it's free
>>344267020
Porting to Source 2 would fuck up all the physics that form a large part of the fundamental core that the game is designed around.
>not picking team Pyro
Heavy is shit and boring and Pyro desperately needs new balancing. What's the most efficient way to farm kills in casual mode?
>>344266840
As I said, you have plenty of options to deal with trying to reach what you had before, but that does not mean this change was an stupid idea and it's a temporary fix and you would need way more than simply having a server on your own to deal with it. If I had one server of my own, I would not change the map as I please, or leave the same if I wanted that. I could, but that would break the concept of having the same options, and if you had that to every private server, you can get the idea. Sometimes I just simply want to look for a especific map or mode and jump in. It's a decent workaround, but the problems it simply too stupid to even think about it, and I highly doubt they are not going to change it; a lot of people are fucking pissed about it.
>>344267542
T. Blizzdrone
>>344267450
Who the fuck actually took tf2 seriously? It's a fucking goofy ass game meant for dicking around with friends
>muh burden on the team.
Who gives a shit? Who was even asking for competitive mode?
>>344268036
SHITTY 4TH SNIPER DETECTED!
OUT! OUT! OUT!
>>344268036
It was quite competitive until Valve introduced stupid hats and loadouts.
>>344263378
team heavy because he actually needs buffs
>>344268036
>Who was even asking for competitive mode?
Enough for Valve to take note, obviously.
>all the bad pubber tears ITT
Please, I can only get so erect.
>>344263378
game is dying and valve is about to get sued to the ground...Valve can very will be stopped and is going to be stopped
>>344267964
Pyro is fine compared to how useless Heavy is, who needs an actual major reworking.
>>344263428
Not really, if you want to be serious and all there's competitive. Pubs were made to fuck around.
>>344268151
>taking winning seriously
>in pub tf2
>ACTUALLY taking winning in pubs seriously
>not joining pugs or other organized matches when you want a "real" game
>not enjoying pubs for the chaos that they were
Holy shit m8 I'm not even that guy and I hate playing sniper but you sound like a cancerous ASSFAGGOTS player right now
>Need to give out your phone number or pay 13 dollars to play
i'll just stick to dota 2 then thanks
>>344267774
it doesn't
>>344267058
Im not him, but I liked valve servers where you had players who knew they could fuck around trying different stuff with no consequences, and I DID liked the idea of being in a team that would pull shit off so I could fuck around as long as they did not completely stomp the enemy team to the point where you don't have anything to kill anymore. Some times it was either go as soldier, scout, demo, sniper or try something with the spy with dr when your team is being spawncamped, and that shit got boring long time ago because the balance of the game is shit. Add random crits on top of that, making winnin or losing more ridiculous because a simply well time random crit could change the map. What is the point of taking the game seriously like that. And most of the time, I was the one, or at least part of the ones, getting shit done with my retarded loadouts.Very rarelly is worth it to be medic since you don't have people that can use the fucking heals/uber or the team compr basically force you to be soldier, demo, etc, or fuck offDickin around has nothing to do with being good in this game, because with the shitty balance and shit like random crits, winning means fucking nothing in pubs.
>>344263864
>heavy
>not garbage
Please play the game before randomly shitposting
>>344268239
>implying this wasnt a leap by valve to keep the game relevant after overgoyim came out
come on now. You really think that much people still give a shit about this poor already dead game? its been 9 bloody years.
>>344268373
>chaos is spending most of your time looking at the respawn screen because your horrible teammates effectively leave you outnumbered every fight
k
>>344267407
>Competitive Mode
>Ever since the first dolphins crawled out of the ocean, they've longed to pick a fight with the fat, banana-eating apes over by the trees. And now they can, in a structured dolphin-safe environment.
>>344268357
Pyro has virtually no utility you absolute mad man. Heavy is low tier, but Pyro is pretty much outclassed by everybody.
>>344268151
Fuck off retard. This is a game where you throw piss at people to do extra damage and and beat people up with a whiskey bottle and a frying pan. It was not designed to be taken seriously or be hyper competitive. The only reason they even rolled out this update is because they were afraid Overwatch would steal their audience. Nobody asked for this shit.
>>344268391
>still playing the no pitlord simulator
>>344268503
Cry fucking more lmao
>>344264279
It's basically not worth it because no matter what you do service will be overwhelmed on day 1. It's better to just let the population sort itself out.
>>344268357
Everything Pyro does, Demo does it better. S/he's shit.
>2016
>still playing meme taunt game 2
>>344268460
>being this bad at the game
>not being able to steamroll pubbies
>not being able to switch classes to counter
It really is summer, huh
Protip: 99% of the time the other team is just as bad as your own incompetent teammates
>>344267964
Plant a sentry in a good spot, wait for retards.
>>344268503
Hey kid, Overmeme is only 40 burgerbucks. 'Should only be a few weeks allowance if you're interested :^)
I just want to play upward or borneo holy shit.
So it ends up like CS:GO with VAC doing jack shit and just banning people maybe once a year?
Wasn't LMAOBOX undetected for 1 year or something?
>>344267745
>All mediguns let medic match patient movespeed
>All mediguns let medic match patient movespeed
WHY
As if the medic isn't fast enough, and they're already pretty hard to hit.
>>344268469
T. Someone who doesn't know what pyros m2 button does
>>344268503
>Overwatch marketers on full damage control.
top kek
>>344268734
>medics
>pretty hard to hit
Holy shit, explains all of the scubbery ITT
>>344268542
I don't even have the game installed anymore desu. I just came in to point out how stupid this update is. Nothing to cry about. Enjoy your dead game.
>you're a blizzard shill if you think tf2 wasn't supposed to be taken seriously
baka
>>344266936
them
>>344268790
Nigger, have you ever played against a legitimately good pocket soldier and medic?
Now imagine a good scout and medic.
>>344267795
b-becuase its f-free
Wow anon. nice arguement
>>344268705
Already bought it.
>>344268761
Do you even know what damage control means?
>>344267745
>Sydney sleeper buffed
What, it's fine and still causes major butthurt to everyone.
>All mediguns let medic match patient movespeed
>Quick fix nerfed
Balance should be about balance,not about making a weapon completely worthless. You can't give Quick-fix main gimmick to every other medigun and nerfing it on top of it.
>>344268790
>medics can now reliably uber/kritz scouts
what could possibly go wrong
>heavy losing to the meme class
JUST
>>344269087
of course
more people play pyro than heavy, because heavy still has to aim
>>344267745
>brass beast nerfed
It's already shit. You may as well build a lv2 sentry because that's how slow and vulnerable the heavy is with BB.
finally quickplay died
maybe people will finally start playing in community servers
>>344268750
It's not nearly as useful as you seem to think.
>play TF2 since forever
>F2P comes out
>pubs steadily get worse and worse
>see Overwatch announced
>looks like Pixar made a shooter
>hope it will attract all of the scrubs kiddies away when it comes out
>it doesn't
>this TF2 update comes out
>this thread
>>344269037
This right here is why this competitive shit is stupid. How can you take this game seriously when the fucking developers make dumbshit balancing decisions like that?
>>344269087
Heavy isn't fun to play
>Disliking Overwatch
But why? It's fun.
>>344269159
BB is pretty much the "stand on the payload" gun
So what's going to happen when competitive mode fails to take off and LoL/CSGO/DotA still reign supreme?
>>344269159
I wish bb bullets could penetrate a single enemy player.
>>344269240
It's fun for goofing off in in a Mario Party sort of way, but that's about it. It's way too shallow to hold my interest in any competitive capacity.
>>344269257
It's not going to "fail to take off" because it's for the 60k people that have stayed with the game
>>344269257
>LoL
The game is hemorrhaging players terribly. Riots in panic mode since they haven't ever dealt with the game not experiencing constant growth.
>>344269186
It's the single most efficient tool in the game for shutting down soldiers, demos, and enemy ubers, and is also extremely good at clearing people off of contested points/carts as a desperation move. It's one of the powerful defensive options in the game, if pyro had more movement options he'd be an outrageous offensive cock blocker because of it
>>344269186
>Can push out and delay used ubers
>Can Reflect rockets/sentry rockets
>Can push a scout onto a wall letting people kill him
>Can push people to environment kills
>Can put out fire
>Can be used to make people more vulnerable
>Can reflect projectiles: Madmilk, Jarate, Arrows, Balls, Sticky bombs, Grenade Launcher projectiles.
I don't know Anon, it seems very useful to me.
I haven't even listed everything yet.
>>344267745
>All mediguns let medic match patient movespeed
>Quick fix nerfed
>Dropped mediguns gradually lose the ubercharge stored in them
Is valve fucking stupid?
>>344269417
>enemy ubers
Not anymore, that's scout
>>344267745
>Nat and brass beast nerfed
What scheme is this? Make weapons so shit that players are essentially forced to use better ones?
>>344263378
DELTE THIS
Scout
>Crit-A-Cola
-Added Marked-for-Death debuff for 2 seconds after the buff effect expires
>The Soda Popper
-Added "On hit: build Hype",Removed "build hype by running around"
> Shortstop
-Added an Alt-fire attack -- reach out and shove someone!
-Removed +healing bonus
-Reduced pushback vuln to +20% (from +40%)
>Sun on a stick
-Take 25% less damage from fire while deployed
>>344269257
The game is already dead as fuck CSGO/OW/DOTA//league of niggers will likely be superior always.
>>344269509
>It's an "I havent had an excuse to use this ever since /v/ gave up on private servers" episode
Soldier
>The Righteous Bison
-Fixed a bug causing players to be hit by the same projectile multiple times, causing the damage dealt to vary wildly
-Per-shot damage has been increased to compensate, resulting in slightly more damage on average
-Point-blank deals 54 damage (previously 20-80)
-Maximum range deals 24 damage (previously 14-56)
-Slowed projectile by 30%
-Projectile damage reduced by 25% for each enemy penetrated
-Updated projectile impact sound
>The Disciplinary Action
-Reduced duration of speed bonus on teammates to 2 seconds (from 3)
>The Rocket Jumper
-Updated model/materials and sound
Pyro should be able to aim at the ground and airblast himself as an analogue to explosive jumping
Discuss
>>344269471
Honestly I rather disliked playing against nat heavies, will not miss them.
>>344264087
I bet you say the same about Bethesda games
Too bad mods can't fix the pile of dogshit that is TF2
Sniper
>Cozy Camper
-Now requires a full charge to gain flinch resistance
>The Sydney Sleeper
-When fully charged, or when making a headshot, now applies Jarate in a radius
-Scoped shots now extinguish teammates
>The Cleaner's Carbine
-Removed hidden +10% damage taken multiplier while under the effects
Heavy
>Natascha and Brass Beast
-20% damage resistance now only applies when spun up and below 50% max health
>Huo-Long Heater
-Added -10% damage
-Added +25% increased damage vs. burning players
-Reduced ammo drain to -4/sec (from -6)
-Reduced pulse damage from Ring of Fire to 12 (from 15) due to increased damage vs. burning
>Buffalo Steak Sandvich
-Fixed "damage taken" multiplier accidentally being +10%, instead of the listed +25%
>>344269625
Airblast should not cost ammo
Discuss
>>344269713
Being able to spam airblast nonstop would be bullshit.
Spy
>Base
-Max speed increased to 320 (from 300)
>Enforcer
-Attacks pierce resist and absorb effects from all sources
Pyro
>All Flamethrowers
-Added: Direct damage reduces Medi Gun healing and resist shield effects by 25%
-Medics hear a "healing interrupted" sound when this is happening to their heal target
>The Manmelter
-Removed (hidden) 20% fire rate penalty
Medic
>Base
-All Mediguns allow the Medic to match the speed of their heal target, previously only available on The Quick Fix
>Quick Fix
-ÜberCharge rate reduced to +15% (from +25%)
>Overdose
-Increased movement speed bonus to +20% (from +10%)
-Increased damage penalty to -15% (from -10%)
>Dropped Mediguns
-Stored ÜberCharge begins to decay over time after coming to rest
RIP Quick Fix
>>344265046
>tf2 is 9 years old
>>344269189
I still can't believe people are bad at a 9 year old game. You'd think the collective knowledge of the community would spill over and new people would learn really quick, but no.
>>344269806
Just pull a cooldown, is not fucking hard
>mfw medic's quick fix movement effect now applies to all mediguns
>mfw i can run as fast as a scout if i'm healing a scout
rest in piss fellas enjoy the taste of my ubersaw
>>344269884
That's stupid
Ammo >>> cooldowns you dumb Overwatch fanboy
Demoman
>Base
-All boots now require a shield to activate any move speed bonus listed on the item
>The Iron Bomber
-Decreased the fuse time to 1.4 seconds (from 2.0)
>The Quickiebomb Launcher
-Increased charge time reduction to -70% (from -50%)
-Increased damage bonus for (max) charged shots to +35% (from +25%)
-Increased clip size penalty to -50% (from -25%)
-Removed "Stickybombs fizzle 4 seconds after landing"
>The Sticky Jumper
-Updated model/materials and sound
Engineer
>Base
-Level 1 teleporters now cost 50 metal (previously 125)
>Widowmaker
-Damage increased +10% when attacking the same target as your sentry
-Reduced "50% less metal from Dispensers and Pickups" to 20%
-Added "Teleporters cost 50% less metal"
>The Short Circuit
-Base projectile attack is -10 metal (hit or miss) and then add -5 metal for each projectile destroyed (sometimes a buff, sometimes a nerf)
>The Pomson
-Fixed an exploit with shooting through your own buildings
-Increased close-range damage to 72 (from 62)
-Reduced long-range damage to 32 (from 42)
-Updated projectile impact sound
>Eureka effect teleporter spam
>>344269625
The Pyro can actually do a rocket jump if you time a rocket towards to you, it's just not practical after that.
But having a free jump to reach a flank is pretty good since the Pyro isn't that powerful, and most often you will face enemies in front of you, not behind them.
And he SHOULD be specializing in flanking people, not just pulling a Degreaser m1, m2 to (Axe or Flare) like most people would do.
>>344269878
Anyone who goes 1 and 29 every round, spending more time looking at their respawn screen than actually playing, and then signing up for another round of that without changing anything must be literally retarded.
I still remember my very first round of tf2 years and years ago. I was never that retarded. I just played medic and shadowed other players, watching what they did until I felt comfortable trying it myself.
>>344270069
Degreaser isn't that good anymore. Stock+Reserve Shooter is a lot better.
>>344263378
Anyone who cant join a game? Cant even access items "Loadout is unavaible" Cant do shit
>>344269518
>Added an Alt-fire attack -- reach out and shove someone!
What is this
>>344270249
It's like a half potency airblast that you have to be ~melee range to trigger.
>>344270214
That's most people right now. Valve doesn't do weekend work, so see you next week!
>>344270069
Can't the Pyro flare jump with the detonator?
>>344270307
>giving scout airblast
Wew valve
>>344270000
>what is like half of scout secondary
There's already cooldonws in the game, you dumb motherfucker, there's nothing wrong in give it to Airblast
>>344270310
Ah I thought it had something to do with my Hud
>>344270318
Yeah but it sucks
JUST
>I played a round of casual ctf (even though i picked not to play ctf?), no one had fun, everyone (including me) was tryharding.
>Before that a round where my team left in the first minute and the other team had an allcrit cheater.
Why is there casual matchmaking if there's already comp? Can't I just fucking push the cart on badwater.
>>344269884
Then the back burner and degreaser would just be direct upgrades
>>344270354
It's kind of shit, on top of requiring you to use the already shit shortstop. I honestly don't see the point of it.
Valve made TF2 great again
>>344270441
>Can't I just fucking push the cart on badwater
Get a load of this tryhard.
>>344270318
Yeah but it's hardly viable
Costs way too much health and is only useful for bridging minor gaps
>>344265270
3rd worlders literally live off hats, friend. Same with CS:GO skins.
>>344270318
Yeah, same with the Scort shot, but at the cost of being limit of the ammount of damage you could deal to the enemies once you position yourself, and it's not like the flametrower is realiably due to the shitton ammount of bugs it has on one. And a pyro can't simply say "ok, i will try to deal a little bit of damage and then fuck off with my detonator if I can't pull anything off" like the soldier can. It's true that the soldier needs to cut himself of at least one rocket that he would need to use to escape (another one if you need to cut the distance) but you can do that better as soldier than you would ever could as pyro.
>>344270402
Nope it's definitely my hud. Deleting it made the game work again. Seems like most huds are not updated so the game breaks.
>>344270536
b-but I liked pushing the cart ;__;
Now it's all, play this shit game of koth you have to wait 5 minutes for.
>>344270441
>everyone (including me) was tryharding.
Shit, sounds like TF2 might actually be fun again. I always hated the idea that anything remotely related to playing the objective was discouraged as tryharding.
>>344269713
What do you thing would change adding that change to the game. It's a pretty random change expressed like that. What is your base for that argument/concept?
>>344270447
Depending on his argument, you could balance the airblast of those weapons around the concept of needing a cooldown. But it sound like a pretty random statement to me.
Will this discourage all the "friendly" heavies and faggots that only conga dance?
I don't know about you guys but I had a blast on my favorited community servers while items were down.
No bullshit, just straight shooting for a few heavenly hours.
>play a few rounds of comp with friends
>they go to bed, play a couple casual games
>then to fuck around, go to community server
Update is literally perfect.
>>344269884
Then airblast is worthless because soldier and demo have clip sizes bigger than one, have you played this game.
>>344270990
>tfw got rock paper scissors
>nobody plays it
I probably should have got an actual taunt
>>344270171
Still, the point is that the Pyro isn't good in flanking, you will most likely die because you're going to be most likely fighting on the front-lines, which he isn't intended for.
>>344270318
Oh, I totally forgot about that weapon, that's actually a good means to move with the Pyro if you hog medkits and use it right.
However most of the time medkits will be used, and you'll have to deal with the damage you've done to yourself (35-41 I think?) and for a slight jump that's too much.
The damage is shit to the point that I think it's a waste of secondary slot.
And also, good luck hitting the scout.
>>344270859
I mean it was nice to see people actually play? Like how it was back in the day, a little, but doesn't just feel fun.
But you can't choose a map, you can't choose next map.
And there's shit on the top part of your screen.
No one in there has played together before you joined, so it's all random nonsense until the very end.
>>344271217
>you can't choose next map.
they removed to voting?
>>344263378
How are the performance improvements?
Did we finally get proper LODs? How bout an option to disable hats or at least unusuals?
guess i'm sticking to the server browser then.
>>344263378
>Wow it's only 5 years too late
>>344271321
I'm playing with my config disabled, and the game runs REALLY smooth for me.
>>344271278
Enjoy. And if the game is shit on the map you actually like and finally get to play, you can't just go on another server with the same one.
>item server still down
what the fuck
>>344267745
>Nerfed Nat and Brass Beast
For literally what purpose? It's not like they were better than stock or Tomislav.
Aside from the quickplay and matchmaking fuckup wich will be fixed soon, do we agree the balance changes were good?
Except the heavy ones. I don't get why he has to be nerfed almost every patch
>>344271489
Guess I'll stick to community servers
>>344271217
>people actually play
>it's all random nonsense until the very end
Sounds like the old pub experience is in tact to me, with the added bonus of people trying. Win/win.
>>344271623
Soldier, Demo and Scout didn't get nerfed much so no
>>344270913
Flamethrowers are shit weapons due to their lack of range, you'll only ever kill a retarded pubbie with nothing but a flmaethrower.
In comp play the flamethrower is all about the airblast, it's needed to neutralize ubers, pull off combos, reflect projectiles and a variety of other tasks.
The degreaser was considered a direct upgrade by pro pyros becasue the damage penalty wasn't an issue when you rarely ever used flames to finish off an enemy. Weapon switch speed + default airblast cost made it more useful than the stock flamer could ever hope to be
>>344271738
>Demo
You haven't played with a sticky spamming Demo back then did you?
>>344271623
>All heavy nerfs
>Remove bizon's actual attribute by calling it a bug
>Spy made faster, like meleeing them as engi wasn't fucky enough, like they already couldn't outrun pyros
And whatever fuck else there was.
>>344263378
>matchmaking
did they remove server browser?
>>344269583
>Slowed projectile by 30%
thanks Valve,now I won't hit anyone that isn't a Heavy
>>344272035
what even made you think that they did?
>>344271938
Considering this the spy-cicle needs a nerf.
>>344272146
I'm just asking
overwatch doesn't have a server browser so maybe valve wanted to target that crowd
>>344271648
It's not though. Just try it, it's awful. It's comp with pub skill level players who might leave at any point, with no one replacing them. In a gamemode you did not choose.
They should have left matchmaking to comp.
>>344269695
>The Sydney Sleeper
>When fully charged, or when making a headshot, now applies Jarate in a radius
>Scoped shots now extinguish teammates
This is beautiful,can't wait for even more butthurt
>>344269583
>ingame tips say to use bison on retreating enemies, because it hits multiple times
>valve later claims it's a bug and removes it
I'm actually convinced Valve is completely shit right now, like incapable of making or balancing games. I don't know how CSGO is doing but DOTA and TF2 are getting more and more fucked up every update. Did they replace all the original game devs over the years?
Why the fuck do you have to pay to play the competitive mode?
>>344272271
>Turbine first map, a map I hate because of just how unfun it is
>Get capped out 3-0 in less than 5 minutes because of how open the flag is
>Took 5 minutes just to get into that game
>Wait another 5 minutes to get into Gold Rush
>Two teammates abandoned after first point and I can't rejoin or play another game after leaving it while it's in progress
Also
>Random crits on
>21+ second respawn times for defense
>Ubers out the gate
>It's in stopwatch mode so even if there's 2 team members remaining versus 11 it will still take a god damn half hour
Fucking hell
>>344272354
Method to keep hackers and other scum out of it I think. I don't know how well it works
But I mean there's really no issue since you can buy a key from the store, and use it or sell it on the market and get your money back, and you're already premium
>>344272334
>Did they replace all the original game devs over the years?
Hopefully they're working onLeft 4 Dead 3
>>344272354
you don't
>>344272354
You don't. I didn't. I've played several games already.
>>344272309
I had a crazy thought.
>Sniper+Pyro+Heavy.
Sydney Sleep a cart full of people, then Scorch Shot, then Huo Long Heater.
TF2 threads
>pyro is actually not that good, but I know how to play him with my degreaser :-)
>when will they finally make heavy viable???
It makes me sick.
>>344272636
That requires like teamwork. You're way off.
>the update is War! update 2.0
>heavy vs. pyro
>starts off the update by nerfing heavy and buffing pyro
>heavy was winning 51% to 49%
>an hour later pyro is winning 51% to 49%
Gee, I wonder which class is favored more by valve
>>344272334
>did they replace all the original game dev's over the years?
Valves employment policy is that employees can work on whatever the fuck they want to do they probably weren't replaced. However if i worked on a single game for 9 years straight only to then have to keep giving it regular updates I wouldn't be surprised if i got tired of working on it and wanted to do something else
>>344272727
A man can dream
>>344272334
The desks at valve have wheels, so they say. For all we know most of the TF2 team could be working on CS:GO or DOTA2
>>344263378
wait, so the server browser is gone?
good game valve
>>344270714
Holy fuck, I expresed myself like shit.
>>344271753
Yeap, I'm aware of how he is used. This my other comment so this is not so long, but you get the idea: >>344270714 .
That does not change the fact that the cooldown needs to make sense. If the fire rate is the same, the concept of what makes pyro really good to use in >especific< circumstances does not change at all besides being able to deal a little more of damage while using it since you will not waste ammo in flames that you will need to airblast. You could spammit more but you are simply dumbing down something that you would do anyway.
Also, Comp (as in wpns bans kind of comp) is completely different to pubs and is not just about skill, you know?
Comp changes basically turns around these concepts:
>The strategy, if allowed, force both teams to do the same or put themself at a disavantage.
>The change should improve variation in strategy. Banning things creates variation because some weapons would force you to do the same or lose/have a great disavange.
>It should create an escenario were you can counter it. (If everybody try an especific loadout focused to kill a medic, you would see the same shit every time.)
>It should make the game fast. Making more fun/interesting to see, and to play. If everybody switch to heavy and disciplinary action you could create a more slowed game with the same concept.
I can tolerate that but thsi "in comp" argument is getting out of hand because people don't understand it.
>>344272334
To be fair, TF2 has never really been well balanced. Except for vanilla maybe.
>Quickplay eternally fucked, valve won't fix it
>This causes community servers to come back from the dead and be good again
Possible or delusional fantasy?
>>344272937
>we want the no one playing the game crowd
>>344272937
No, it's still there. It's 'community servers' underneath 'find a game'. Literally on the same list as the other options they added this patch.
>>344263938
Exactly. I'm sitting here waiting for matchmaking to put me into a server. Overwatch does it in literal seconds. It's been FIVE MINUTES for Valve.
It took them six months to implement this!?
>Casual coerces you into playing horribly optimised maps like borneo
I'd pray for goldrush at this point, at least I can play it above 45 fps.
>>344272354
You don't if you aren't a F2P babby.
>>344272749
actually it doesn't work like that anymore for a few years already.
People are now mostly working on projects they are assigned to, also they hire many contractors who get fired once the job is done.
That meme that people work on what they want existed when valve had less then 150 workers.
>>344273071
>skial
>nightwhatever
>the other shitty one
>mario kart x10 weapons
>2fort instarespawn with bots
It's there but there's nothing there
