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2K Japan released the next Civilization VI First Look early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diEavgTOIA8

Japan, led by Hojo Tokimune.
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Unique Ability: Meiji Restoration - Extra bonuses for Districts built next to each other.

Leader Ability: Divine Wind - Land units get a combat bonus for fighting next to the coast, Naval units get a combat bonus for fighting in shallow water tiles.

Unique Unit: Samurai - don't lose combat strength when they take damage. (Unlocked by Military Tactics technology)

Unique Building: Electronics Factory - (replaces Factory in Industrial Zone Districts) provides bonus Production and Culture to nearby cities (not just its home city).
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>>344262012
>not "Divine Wind- Air Units can blow themselves up for the glory of the Emperor, automatically killing the unit they are attacking"

Jesus japan, this is your own history
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>>344261989
>>344262012
no Gundam Statue wonder - no sale
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why does the leader have the triforce on him
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>>344262480
That's the clan symbol of the Hojo broseph.
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>>344261989

He looks like leatherman from the thumbnail
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>>344262480
>He didn't play Sengoku Rance

I hate normies.
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>>344262235
The original Divine Wind was the typhoon that helped the Japanese (lead by Hojo Tokimune) push back the Mongol invasions. I like this one better since it's related to the leader.
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>>344261989
Once again the Japanese seem strong, but at least they don't have that stupid fucking Bushido Code again.

Holy shit.
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>>344262529
Why is the clan symbol of the Hojo a Triforce? Do they have Hyrulian blood?
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>>344262480
He's Zelda
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>>344262639
Bushido is the name of Tokimune's A.I. Leader Agenda - he likes Civs that have a strong military but only if they also have a strong faith and/or culture, too.
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>>344262012
>unique ability Meiji Restoration
>not just having Meiji as your leader

Do the Nips hate him or something? Japan's sudden industrialisation in the 19th century is pretty crazy. I don't think any country has gone from being a backwards feudal kingdom, to a modern industrial state as quickly as Japan. Apart from you know, apart from areas that get colonised.
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>>344261989
Oh hey, one of the least impressive Shoguns in all of history.

Come the fuck on, at least give us someone exciting or maybe even did something, like Kiyomori Taira.
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Pretty shit to be honest. A far cry from Bushido.
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>>344262994
My guess is love and hate since he let in the Gaijin and forced Japan to stop fucking their cousins and actually do something in the world.
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>nu male narrating the video
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>>344262994
the secret is that japan was colonized by the west as well
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>>344262994
Many civs have their unique units/abilities/buildings from a variety of time periods. For example, Civ V Germany has their UA from Roman era, UB from early modern and UUs from early modern and WW2 respectively.
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>>344263152
its female you idiot, this "nu-male" meme is dumb too, what happened to just calling them fags?
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>her face when
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>>344261989
Hojo's background looks a lot better than the other three.
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>>344261989
why is he wearing the triforce on his shirt? zelda reference?
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>>344263263
Why am I getting a Jessica Lange feeling from her.
Old women trying to act sexy and confusing my boner.
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>>344263263
why are they using Cleopatra again? not only is she greek, she is also completely unimpressive as a leader, all she did is try to maneuver around Rome and fail

its as fucking dumb as using Boudica for the Celts
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>>344263229
you mean cucks?
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>>344263384
They wanted her because it was easier to come up with a leader agenda for her than for Hatshepsut I guess.
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>>344263384
They probably don't want to have every single Civilization headed by a man.
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I want that fucking music they use in these trailers. It sounds so nice.
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>>344263384
they basically want "big personalities" this time

I mean I'd prefer Hatshepsut but this is the hand dealt

Maybe there'll be Leader DLC for the popular ones that didn't make it in later
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>>344263186
well yeah, they had the french, murricans and british meddling in their affairs, pushing them into the future, but they didn't get the India treatment.

Call me a dirty weeb, but the Meiji restoration is pretty inspiring.
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>>344263384
Supposedly because "maneuvering around Rome" is the kind of personality they want to give to the AI.
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>>344261989
>repelled the Mongol invasion

oh I didn't know this man was literally the weather :)
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>>344263263
How on earth did they manage to make a Cleopatra I don't want to fuck?
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>>344263384
To be fair Rameses II like won one battle by sheer luck and accidently then went on to build shit and they called him one of the best leaders.
Egypt didn't really have amazing leaders which is why they got taken over all the time.
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>>344263536
Well his ability is called "Divine Wind"
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>>344263263
I'm still questioning a lot of things about this game, but at least the porn's got plenty of fuel.
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>>344261989

>Hojo literally who
>Not Emperor Jimmu
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>>344261989
More like Who jo Tokimune? Am I right guys?
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Hitler fucking when
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>>344263476
>not having a religion pushing leader who is also big on progression and building and is also apt to break promises and trade agreements
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>>344263671
~100 years from now when we got rid of all the jewss
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>>344262647

Seriously go fuck yourself
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>>344262994
>Do the Nips hate him or something?

No, the nips love Meiji - japanese opinion on the samurai was that they were corrupt.

You can't have Meiji as leader of the Japanese civ if Samurai & Military is what your going for however. Blame firaxis
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>>344263536
Mongol/Yuan/Korean troops did land on two separate invasions and Hojo was well-prepared the second time around with extensively fortified coast and such like (which prevented Mongols from landing and left them vulnerable when kamikaze came months later). It's not like the Japanese didn't see any fighting, although typhoons did obviously help.
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More things spotted in the video:

Quadrireme sighted. Ranged unit, stronger than "Galley."
Ethnic unit graphics
Swordsmen 35 base strength, Pikemen 35 base strength, Samurai 45 base strength
Eureka for Nationalism is to declare war with a Casus Belli
Theatre Square Festival project
Campus Research Grant project
Horsemen require 2 horses?
Factories look like they unlock at Industrialization (Eureka: Build 3 workshops)
Pastures and camps unlock at Animal Husbandry
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When will they show Atlantis?
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>>344263384
Cleopatra wasn't Greek
she spoke Greek
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>>344263928

Shes was a descendant of Alexander
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>>344263671
what would his power be? fail spectacularly and be so edgy about it that you shit up europe forever?

>>344263683
I wanted Akhenaten too
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>>344263659
Pretty fucking much.

He did literally nothing for 18 years, only managed to repel two invasions because of luck and the fact mongols are fucking stupid and sent riverboats across the ocean, then died just after turning 31 while waiting for a third invasion that never happened.

They literally could have chosen the 14 year old emperor and it would have been a much more interesting choice.
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>>344263928
No, she was a member of Ptolemaic dynasty founded by Alexander the Great's general Ptolemy.
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>>344263963
she was born in egypt. her parents were egyptian. she was egyptian.
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>>344263928
She was literally part of a Greek racist elite and descended from one of Alexander's generals
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>>344264051

>Cleopatra was a member of the Ptolemaic dynasty, a family of Macedonian Greek[3] origin that ruled Egypt after Alexander the Great's death during the Hellenistic period.

GREEK
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Who will be the Chinese leader this time and how could they pick anyone but Qin?
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>>344263851

Correction, the mongols did land, pillages a few villages too on the second invasion. But they lacked men to push forward.

Then the weather fucked them.
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>>344264123
god you're stupid
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>>344264051
They literally interbred to avoid becoming Egyptian.

Just because you were born in London doesn't make you are English Mohammed
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Should've done Ieyasu Tokugawa
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>>344264090
Just like the USA is populated mostly by redskin Native Americans dancing around totem poles
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>>344264137
It's Qin Shi Huang, China is going to be wonder-focused civ
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>>344264158

Sure kid
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>>344264176
*mean
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>>344264210
name calling is the foundation of all arguments, so go fuck yourself idiot
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>>344264123

If your parents are both American

and move to Bali

you are born afterwards

what does that make you?

Balinese, not American

You are Balinese of American descent

She is EGYPTIAN OF GREEK DESCENT
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>>344264194
>China is going to be wonder-focused civ

>Fused a few broken walls together
>Built a couple of terracotta statues for the lulz
>""""""""""""""""""""world wonders""""""""""""""""""""

Oh shit nigga what are you doing? Just give them a million food boosts.
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>>344264051
Don't pull this you little shit. Ethnically she was Greek and from a dyntasty largely divorced from the people of Egypt, you know exactly what people are objecting too.
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>>344263897
I think Atlantis might actually be one of the random Continent names. I know Lemuria is one.
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>>344264180

Why? Iesayu was a shitter who closed the entire country.

He was good at diplomacy, but he was a xenophobic asshat who sent Japan into a dark age,
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>>344264262
She's a whore and a traitor who killed the rightful Pharaoh and ensured Egypt would never have any bit of autonomy ever again.
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>>344263384
WE
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>>344264158
haha
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>>344264262
Calm down Mohammed, we don't need another shooting today
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I can't believe it's not Lizzy.
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>>344264328
>sent Japan into a dark age

Not really. yeah the country stagnated the whole time, but it was peaceful, there wasn't any rampant diseases, people weren't being burned at the stake, etc etc.
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>>344264365
Really makes you think, huh?
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>>344264328
>the "isolationism is bad" meme
lol. europe was colonizing the world and setting up puppet governments the world over, telling them to fuck off was a good move
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>>344264328
More like a golden age of peace and prosperity. And then they just westernized in 20 years anyway so who cares?

Hell, they westernized so fast that they were able to go full imperial mode against China before shit went down.
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>>344264441

I should have specified a technological dark age
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>>344264463
I unironically liked that movie
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>>344264328
he was an awesome trump though.
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>>344264508

Its a good movie

Jap's hated it though
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>>344264328
Edo was a cultural golden age, dont be silly
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>>344262012
Divine Wind is OP.

Nerf Nippon
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>>344264262
You're not even an Indonesian citizen
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>>344264508
>yfw tom cruise wasn't the last samurai
>yfw samurai is plural
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>>344262539
F U C K Y O U
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>>344264564

I think he meant moved permanently, not visited and happened to be born during the trip

that's a whole different ballgame
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>>344264508
yeah. the concept is stupid but it's still one of my favorites
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Honestly they should just turn this whole area into a Cuck civilization because every fucking empire in history seems to have owned it. Babylonians, Assyrians, Persians, Greeks, Sassanids, Arabs, Mongols, Timurids, Safavid, Ottomans, England and basically everyone but the Swedes.
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>>344264572
>yfw samurai is plural

People don't seem to understand that when they shit on The Last Samurai
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>>344264456
>>344264463

250 years later, but okay.
Name one good thing that came out of the Edo period. One thing at all,
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>>344264547
Because of a dirty gaijin as the lead? The glorification of samurai?
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>>344264682

probably race mixing
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>>344264508
On the surface it's very JUST

But in reality it's a fine piece detailing the destruction of culture and heritage in favor of progress and machinery

If that doesn't get to you on some level, you're probably not entirely human anymore
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>>344264682
>The glorification of samurai?

That, right there. Samurai of the Meiji period are understood by modern japanese as being corrupt warmongers, and getting rid of the caste system was a very good thing. The real life Satsuma Rebellion was about very different politics, and Jap's who watched Last Samurai hated the fact that the movie made samurai into virtue paragons who were fighting against the greedy corrupt meiji govt.
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>>344264664
you're the one who brought up that was it bad. why don't you name something actually bad about it? other than "my poor christian monks aren't allowed in :( pls convert"
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>>344264664
All those people not suffering and dying in warfare?

I think the only people who didn't like Edo were the Samurai because fighting and writing poetry about fighting was literally all they did.
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>>344263263
That looking down at your penis and heavy eye makeup. This is my civ 6 trashy mistress.
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>>344264682
Because the jap samurai leader guy is a half-Japanese mutt.
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>>344264441
>>344264456
Isolationism IS bad, Europe intervening everywhere is the reason it was wealthy and powerful while Japs were busy being backwards monkeys

US became the superpower it is today by constantly sticking their fingers into everyone elses business
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>yfw no Gandhi

Do they have balls to do it?
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>>344264779
>"my poor christian monks aren't allowed in :( pls convert"

People don't realize this, but Ieaysu booted out the Christians because the Portuguese Jesuits were trying to influence and control the country. Christian converts were being openly encouraged to rebel against the rule of the Shogunate, and causing death and discord.

Kicking the entire religion out was actually a good thing.
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>>344264772
Literally a nation born of plebs. Didn't reformed Samurai do tons of useful shit like start a hundred of the companies that are still globally active?
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I can't even play Civ5 anymore because it looks like dogshit compared to this game. I used to think civ5 was comfy. Now I don't have a comfy 4x game to play.
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>>344264879
>Europe intervening everywhere
great for europe, not for the smaller countries they tried to meddle with. such as japan.
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>>344264879

Yeah, you outed yourself.
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>>344264879
And now they're getting gunned down on the streets while the japanese don't even loot during disasters. What went wrong?
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>>344264879
Thats only happens when you're yhe one doing the imperializing
What do you think it was going to happen if Japan stayed open?
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>>344262994
Do Japanese gamers even play CIV?
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>>344264991
Actually Japan and Thailand ended up with a massive net gain thanks to Europeans fucking everyone else way harder. How else do you think a worthless island like Japan was shitting all over a massive empire like China a century later?
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>>344264907
>People don't realize this
I'm pretty sure most people realize this. The first step to colonizing a country was setting up a strong christian base.
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>>344264907
>Jesuits

Every fucking time.
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>>344264923

Its not the people, its the caste system.

Prior to the Tokugawa shogunate, there was still room for peasants to become samurai, provided reasons. Hideyoshi was a farmer who became leader of Japan prior to Ieayasu.

But throughout the Edo period, the caste system became ironclad, and this is what modern day japanese resent about the Samurai
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>>344264879
>be american
>get stoped by police man
>its nothing big, routine check
>do what policeman is telling me
>get shot anyway
>die
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>>344264779
>>344264791

How about the thousands of now unemployed ronin wandering the land and bullying and killing the peasants?
Maybe the rise of yakuza style gangs that lorded over areas with shady gambling practices and debt collecting?
Maybe the absolute technological stagnation of Japan that left them 200 years behind the rest of the world?

In the early 1800s, the Japanese were still living in wood and straw huts.
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>>344265127
Why are Japanese plebs so evil and vindictive? Even POO THE LOO was able to take a far more rigid caste system in good stride for the sake of their nation's prosperity.
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>>344265136

>"officer, i want you to know, i have a license to carry a firearm, and i have a pistol"
>get shot by cop
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>>344265081
the only reason the japan after the edo period was able to modernize so easily was thanks to the confucius spirit of duty and hard work that the edo period worked to cultivate thanks to the unprecedented era of peace which let their philosophers and artists take the reigns for a while. the edo period basically set up the modern japanese work ethic that we know today
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>>344265019
the Japanese only achieved their current level of developement AFTER they opened up though, for fucks sake they were still using antiquated musket designs they copied from the Portuguese when the rest of the world had rifles and steam powered ships

>>344265058
>What do you think it was going to happen if Japan stayed open?
same thing that happened to it eventually, they would quickly catch up and be a respectable state
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>>344264430
Who the hell is that?
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>>344265231
>"officer, i want you to know, i have a license to carry a firearm, and i have a pistol"
>ok put your hands up
>ok mr. policeman, i will put my hands up
>get shot by cop
>why did you shot him mr. policeman?
>he started moving his hands
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>>344265175
>thousands of now unemployed ronin
jesus christ how horrifying, out of 30 million there were a tiny minority of disgruntled people who couldn't fight anymore. still better than millions of soldiers killing each other and burning cities to the ground.
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>>344265320

Police lives matter!
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>>344265286
>when the rest of the world had rifles and steam powered ships

You mean Europe while the rest of the world was being blown to pieces by them

Always amazed me why the Europeans left Japan relatively alone. You can't say they were beneath them because those invasive fuckers colonized every bit of blood-soaked soil on the planet.
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>>344264904
Gandhi is de facto confirmed already.
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>>344265175
>In the early 1800s, the Japanese were still living in wood and straw huts.
even the in the early 20th century actually, Tokyo was mostly wooden when the US was bombing it
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>>344265318
queen victoria. she actually looked like that
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>>344265407

Nothing gained in invading Japan.

Everything Japan could offer, they were already getting from every other asian country
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>all that talking about Japan
Gonna watch Letters of Iwo Jima tonight and have a pizza.
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>>344264646
But Germany never owned it, neither did the Chinese. Rome only controlled the part close to water.
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>>344265320
>Dindu steals a pack of smokes
>Police car rams down 18 school children on the way to stop him
>Dindu charged for 18 cases of manslaughter
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>>344265318
Queen Victoria.
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>>344265407
Cause Japan are honorary Whites & would have colonized heaps of Asia if the the goyims didn't stop em
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>>344264904
Gandhi is in
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>>344263540
>How on earth did they manage to make a Cleopatra I don't want to fuck?
Archaeologists have found that she wasn't that beautiful IRL. It is Hollywood that made her hot.
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>>344265472
Oh sweet we are getting Queen Victoria as a leader

Despite the fact that the Queen diden't rule shit during her time, it was all the parlament. But hey it's Queen Victoria
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>>344265535
They tried that
The Koreans BTFO them
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>>344265502
>tfw the USA bombed Afghanistan literally back to the stone age

Did they deserve it?
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>>344265318
Third most powerful woman in history (after Angela Merkel and Boudicca).
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>>344265535
more like china was too busy fighting each other to ever turn their attention on japan. its a good thing the west stepped in after ww2 or they would've been absolutely fucked once mao took over.
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Day one pirate
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>>344265657
How about Wu Zetian
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>>344264547
>Jap's hated it though
source please
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>>344265665
>its a good thing the west stepped in for ww2 or China would've been absolutely fucked once the Japanese took over.

Fixed
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>>344265698
She's fifth after Margaret Thatcher.
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>>344265217
being oppressed by samurai's sucks
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>>344265735
the japanese never stood a chance against a unified china, which was an inevitability with modernization. they were trying to get china hooked on drugs but that was a pretty stupid idea for a country of billions
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>>344265320
>go to sleep
>wake up
>turn on the news
>policeman shot a guy that was selling his music
>guy is dead
>go to sleep
>wake up
>turn on the news
>police shot the guy because he told the policeman he had a gun and he didnt want no trouble
>guy is dead
>go to sleep
>wake up
>turn on the news
>5 policeman killed 11 injured
>go to sleep
>wake up
>turn on the news
>"guns ban is bad, we wont do it"
what the fuck america?
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MANSA MUSA WHEN?
RICHEST MAN TO EVER LIVE
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>>344265814

China wasn't unified in 35. If the US hadn't embargo'd the Japanese, they would have overrun China within the next 5 years.
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>>344265735
>once the Japanese took over.
They only really managed to take the coast before being bogged down. They wouldn't have been able to hold China even after the Chinese government surrendered. Fighting against guerrilla tactics in a country of 800 million people wouldn't work.
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>>344261989
>do voiceover for japanese trailer
>butcher every pronunciation
BRAVO
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>>344263263
She looks like Caesar in drag.
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>>344261989
I like that they managed to incorporate Japan's island nature as well as their population density.
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>>344265987
>They only really managed to take the coast before being bogged down

You must have completely forgotten the part where Japan owned Manchuria completely, and was using it as a staging ground for further land invasion
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>>344264365
>Rightful Pharaoh

He was a puppet propped up by thr clergy, and she didnt do much besides not be the one who offerended Caesar and then impressed him with her cunning and dick sucking abilities

The Romans then proceeded to wreck everyone and install Cleopatra, t. History of Rome blog
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>>344265983
which may have just unified china faster. the only thing stopping the japanese lines from being overrun were civil wars being fought in other parts of the country. and even then being sent to those front lines was literally a death sentence for japanese soldiers. it wasn't sustainable by any stretch of the imagination, but the leaders back home had their heads in the clouds
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>>344265071
Everyone plays Civ. Even someone living in a shithole like I do. Fuck the Community Balance Patch for constantly crashing
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>>344265987
>>344265987
Speaking of small islands taking up larger portions of land than they really ought to, how did the British ever manage to take and hold their empire?
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>>344265657
>Boudicca
stop this, all she did is sack two undefended cities and lose spectacularly despite the immense numerical advantage when she went up against a proper roman force

that woman is a meme
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>>344263263
more female leaders when

the way they're doing cleo i wouldn't mind if the gane was all female leaders
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>>344266131
>Speaking of small islands taking up larger portions of land than they really ought to, how did the British ever manage to take and hold their empire?
For a while they had the best navy in the world.
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>>344266131

Navy and Commerce
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>>344266157
>set up wagons behind your troops to prevent them from running
>they start getting slaughtered
>run away yourself
kek
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>>344266180
So? Spain had the best navy and still got BTFO by an inferior navy.

I think it was mostly luck and genocide. Lots of both.
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>>344266157
>all she did is sack two undefended cities
That's two cities more than any other female leader managed.
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>may-gee restoration
Stopped watching there. It hurts so fucking much.
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>>344266246
british troops with guns and loads of experience putting down natives. there's a reason british troops in civ 6 get to attack for free after disembarking, they've just done it so much its second nature to them
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>>344266086

Sorry, I was forgetting about Manchuria, but even taking that into account, they were still only controlling roughly 1/6th of China, and "control" isn't even the right word considering there was so much resistance in those occupied areas that the only way the Japanese could deal with it was to apply their Three Alls tactics (Kill all, burn all, loot all). They would've never been able to hold all of China.

>>344266131
Massive focus on Navy. All modern major empires were naval powers.
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>>344266246
>So? Spain had the best navy and still got BTFO by an inferior navy.
If they got beaten then they weren't be best, were they?
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>>344266405
best equipment and numbers, inferior tactics and leadership. same reason france lost to germany despite technically having a massive numerical advantage in both troops and (at the time) superior tanks
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>>344266180
>>344266204
>>344266337
So was it a matter of I'll just blockade the shit out of you, if you don't agree with me?
They also seemed a decent job at managing to levy troops out of a native population, which was like, how?
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Assuming these aren't actually all different units, it seems as though there are culture groups for unit skins.
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>>344266246

Spain built a massive navy, became powerful and then just rested on it's laurels. When the Americans engaged the Spanish fleet in the 19th century they fucked them up big time with way less ships since the Spanish never bothered to improve their ships.
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>>344265507
I only know of the old version
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>>344266489
Because that's totally the conflict we were talking about.

Anyway, war is mostly about skill. The Ottomans was the greatest naval force until they fucked up by Cyprus and all their experienced sailors got BTFO. They never recovered.
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>>344266475
>They also seemed a decent job at managing to levy troops out of a native population, which was like, how?

Ezy
>find major ruling power in a new territory
>find all the smaller peoples that despise them/were hurt by them/hate them
>promise them to remove said major power
>make alliance

The same way the Spanish beat the Aztecs with only 500 men. They allied with all the other natives around the area who were sick of the Aztec's shit.
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>>344266605
You forgot the last step

>Fuck everyone over
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>>344266475
>So was it a matter of I'll just blockade the shit out of you, if you don't agree with me?
The whole point of Empires is the ability to send troops anywhere in your realm. This meant building roads for the Roman Empire. But when you talk about an Empire spanning the globe, it means warships and troop transports. Empires need force projection. When USA declared independence, the British contested it by sending an army. The ABILITY to send that army is dependent on having a navy.
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>>344266605
but aztecs were muh noble savages :(
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>>344266670

Well yea, can't have those savage "allies" become the next regional power.
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>>344266718
not unless they convert anyways
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>>344266747

Even then, better fuck them over just in case.
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>>344266487
they all have same icon so they're the same unit. seems like they're taking cards from most popular mods and civ alternatives. i'm glad.
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>>344266775
well at that point they're basically feudal peasants like the ones you have back home, so yeah you fuck them over but you do it with taxes and levies instead of small pox and blankets
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I thought they were supposed to have 2 unique units, one related to the civ and one related to the leader. Since Roosevelt has Rough Riders and there's also a p-51 mustang.
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>>344266680
Nothing savage about the Aztecs, they were educated, cultured and civilized. They only killed people because they thought it was keeping doomsday at bay, as did everyone else in the region.
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>>344266873
>pagans
>not savage
uhhh
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>>344262994
IIRC using Meiji will anger Koreans and Chinese because of Sino-Japanese war.
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>>344261989
>Hojo Tokimune

literally who
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>>344265081
Yeah, imagine if it is China that modernize first. Japan will be another star on China flag. And China might actually own more stars that USA.
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>>344266920
So chinese were savage?
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>>344266680
Being noble is one thing, but they weren't savages (in the sense of primitive group of people without proper civilization). For starters, Tenochtitlan was one of the largest cities at the time (only rivalled by the likes of Paris and Venice in Europe and modern-day Nanjing, Bejing and Guangzhou in China) built on artificial island with urban planning superior to its contemporaries.
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>>344266993
Is that even a question?
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>>344266970

China couldn't have modernized while it was under Qing rule. Those guys couldn't even keep their Ming-era technology running.
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I really want to f*ck Victoria.
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>>344266993

Everyone that isn't a White European (and even then white=/=white) is a savage.
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>>344267085
I don't think my dick will handle any leader in this game, the animations they're showing are sexual af.
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>>344266845
Ed Beach actually said most Civs would only have one Unique Unit, and in Teddy's case it's technically his personal Unique Unit (so, theoretically, if you could mix and match Leaders, you could have Spanish Rough Riders) anyway.
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>>344261989
>H*jo
yikes
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>>344262614
>he didn't know basic history before playing a videogame

I hate retards.
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>>344267197
japanese clans heraldy isn't by any means basic history.
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>>344264430
Looks like Wallace and Grommit. What the fuck even.
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>>344267117
muh white mans burden
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>>344267019
In a way they're still superior to us because they somehow made death seem like an awesome prospect. I'm deathly afraid of dying and so are most westerners because we were only taught that there was a granddad in heaven, and that turned out to be bullshit so now we have nothing left.
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I hope they don't go full retard and make something like Poland or Babylon along with something like Iroquois or Venice.
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>>344266475
It's basically what they threatened to do to the German Empire

The German Empire started building a navy so it could protect itself from that kind of threat and look where it is now.
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>>344266157
a meme with too little porn
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>>344267117
>this is what white """"""""""people"""""""""" actually believe
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>>344267490
>The German Empire started building a navy so it could protect itself from that kind of threat
Yeah which is why the navy sat and did nothing during World War 1

On the Keisers orders
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>>344267624
Well, those dreadnoughts were too expensive to lose!
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>>344265880
>Policeman shot a guy
>Police shot the guy because...
>Guy shoots police

guis, guis, it's al te guns falt.
Sure helped France, right? Right?
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>>344262328

Respect the robot
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>>344267665
They were. They lost the Bismarck in WW2 during some unimportant skirmish.

Naval combat sucks, in Civ and IRL. The only part of naval combat in history that's even the slightest bit interesting was the Titanic's sister ship which was completely fucking unsinkable and rammed other boats into submission for the entirety of the war.
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>>344267525
>you will never go down on her red unkempt pubes

why even live t b h
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>>344261989

>japan led by a literal who instead of the one true god Toyotomi

Shit game
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>>344267624
It never got to be as large as the British navy
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>>344263384

They wanted big personalities

At least they aren't lying about why they pick dumb shit ones like Cleopatra

More name recognition then actual history

Unless you're a man then they pick Hojo no-one has ever heard of him even most Japanese people unless they paid attention in history class.
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>>344267665
It was even more expensive to let them do nothing
>>344265504
Seriously?
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>>344264051

>her parents were Egyptian

You mean the inbred ones who kept it in the family purely to NOT become Egyptian?
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>>344267947
>Unless you're a man then they pick Hojo no-one has ever heard of him even most Japanese people unless they paid attention in history class.
They wanted to pick someone who modernised Japan. They want both Japan's past and present represented, and you really can't get anyone more recent than Hojo. Too recent past WW2 and no one would know who they are, and anyone related to War on the Pacific is too political.
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>>344264430

>"England" civ
>Queen of Great Britain

:^)
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>>344267947
There was a decently successful TV drama about him from 2001. Not saying it would put him at the forefront of the Japanese zeitgeist but it probably helps cultural awareness at least a little bit.
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>>344265127

HIDEYOSHI ENFORCED THE CLASS SYSTEM YOU MONG

NOT TOKUGAWA
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>>344267624

SMS Emden
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Who will lead Germoney this time?
Bismarck?
Willy?
Frederick?
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>>344267773

>In the early hours of 12 May 1918, while en route for France with US troops under the command of Captain Hayes, Olympic sighted a surfaced U-boat 500 m (1,600 ft) ahead.[60] Her gunners opened fire at once, and she turned to ram the submarine, which immediately crash dived to 30 m (98 ft) and turned to a parallel course. Almost immediately afterwards Olympic struck the submarine just aft of her conning tower and her port propeller sliced through U-103's pressure hull. The crew of U-103 blew her ballast tanks, scuttled and abandoned the submarine.Olympic did not stop to pick up survivors, but continued on to Cherbourg. Meanwhile, the USS Davis had sighted a distress flare and picked up 31 survivors from U-103. Olympic returned to Southampton with at least two hull plates dented and her prow twisted to one side, but not breached.[61]

Fucking.
Badass.
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>>344264184
only one kind of natives make totem poles and its in alaska
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>>344263384
>Boudica for the Celts
Speaking of which, please Firaxis, if you're going to use the Celts please don't use fucking Boudicca again
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>>344268126

MEIJI
E
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J
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>>344267773
Hey now hunting u boats can be fun

And destroying everyone with an u boat is also fun
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>>344262012
>in shallow water tiles.
>in

Neat
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>>344268428
I assume that's just coastal tiles. As opposed to ocean ones.
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>>344264270
>what is the grand canal
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>>344266925
Who cares about Gooks? Tenno Heika Banzai, ok.
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>>344267363
>>344267595
Shitskins leave this place
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>>344268381
this
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>>344268710
I think a neat thing about it is that it's not purely defensive - invading by sea means hitting other shallows and taking a beachhead, so the Japanese are also good at naval-based expansion.
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>>344264430
>>344263263
Looks like shit, the Female Civs in 5 were definitely more fappable than these. Wouldn't want to see an SFM Porn of.
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>>344269127
Shitskins were building empires while the savage white man was fucking dogs in the ass.

Seriously, civilizations and empires did not start in Europe.
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>>344266337
They held the important east coast of China. Also Mao was a cunt who just sat it out while the rest fought the invaders.
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*unsheathes western enlightenment*
*teleports thru samurai*

owari da.... samurai-kun.........

*teleports away*
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>>344263263
SEMEN
DEMON
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>>344261989
When's Australia
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>>344268126
>you really can't get anyone more recent than Hojo

There's like, 7 big name options after 1300 AD
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>>344269571
HE'S FAST!
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>>344269254
>Shitskins were building empires
Mesopotamia etc were germanic though
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>>344267842
>Toyotomi
>Not Nobunaga

You are shit
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>>344270003
>Nobunaga
>Not Iwata of the Nintendo Empire

You're shit
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>>344270003
>>344270003

You mean that guy who FAILED to unify Japan ? lmaoing at your life

He was also a FAG!!
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>>344262647
http://zeldauniverse.net/2010/11/15/of-samurais-and-dragons-origins-of-the-triforce-part-1/
Miyamoto likes to sneak Japanese cultural shit in his games. Also See: the origins of Star Fox and all those archways you can fly through.
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>>344270124
Being a fag was a cultural thing in Japan at the time, just like with the Ancient Greeks. It's not blameworthy like it is now.
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>>344270189

If he wasn't such a fag he might have unified Japan.

Toyotomi banged CHIKZ ONLY

No dicks for this super stud
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