Worth?
I want /v/'s opinion on if I should buy one of these. I have the hardware to run it. I have a decently large area to play it in.
bump
I don't think the game library currently justifies the purchase. They also haven't figured out room scale locomotion in a convincing way, which leads to a lot of immersion breaking workarounds like shooting to where you want to teleport.
On the other hand, if you're a social fuckin' dude and always have people over, it's definitely worth it. Seeing people freak out in VR for the first time never, ever gets old.
>>344255330
I have a few friends who would really enjoy playing it. Pretty sure i'd have to hide it from my mom though cause she doesn't like me spending money on vidya shit. The most concerning part for me is the lack of worthwhile content.
>>344255479
shit nigga let your mom play that shit. remember what a big deal the Wii was when it first came out, and everyone was doing wii bowling all the time? VR is the wii times a thousand.
I'm hesitant due to the price but otherwise would buy one immediately for audio shield alone.
>>344255479
>>344255570
You should let you're mom play this.
I invited my mom over to my house where I demo'd it to her (she's 63 now) and she actually enjoyed the hell out of it.
The price tag though made her wince a bit.
>>344255570
You're right she might get a kick out of it. I let her try my google cardboard once and she was like "meh". Probably cause cardboard is boring af anyways.
>>344255168
I'm a vive owner.
There's no games.
Just wait for Gen 2.
>>344255672
Exactly. She'll think it's cool and all but she WILL ask how much I paid for it... so awkward.
>>344255724
thanks for the input. when did you buy yours? what games have you played? how often do you use it currently?
>>344255168
not really, its the nogames headset
plus have you seen its fanbase? its almost entirely leddit
pic related is its currentl flavour of the month game its fucking terrible
if you must get vr just get an oculus, its cheaper and looks better and it has more actual games and its motion controllers look better if you are into that
>>344255908
>>344255724
>Oculus
Being outsold by Vive 2:1. I wouldn't do it.
I don't deny that there's no 'game' per se. I use it for War Thunder and Project cars.
>>344255908
yeah Battle Dome looks like the most cancerous shit i've ever seen.
But the oculus scares me. It's like some kind of Facebook face-sucker. No controllers (yet). Plus it uses Oculus Home which is some weird shit. Is it compatible with SteamVR or whatever the Vive uses?
>>344255168
I bought one, have yet to use it. Just looking at all the shit I have to set up in order to use it turned me off.
>>344255992
>homeboy lists several reasons to buy the oculus rift
>BUT THE VIVE SELLS BETTER
kek.
>>344256284
WHAT THE FUCK RIGHT NOW.
But seriously dude are you playing with me? Hook that shit up pronto! Can't take more than an hour. Do it right now in this thread.
If you're asking, the answer is no.
I'm a huge VR enthusiast, and will defend it to the death. But if you're not already sold on it, wait.
>>344256428
I'm good homie, that shits a mess to set up, so many fucking power cords for 3-4 different decives.. I'll do it sometime, eventually, maybe..
>>344256618
I am sold on it, kinda. It's just a lot of damn money and i'm scared it'll be like when I get super hyped for a game, buy it, play it for 30 mins then say fuck this and go back to csgo (I'm looking at you Elder Scrolls Online)
>>344256759
Damn. I wish I was at a point where I could drop $800 on hardware and not even use it.
>>344256759
>Beyerdynamics DT990
>Fiio dac and amp
>steelseries mouse
>Xbone controller
That looks comfy.
>>344256775
Well, that depends. Are you okay with most of your experiences being early tech demos? Are you okay with most games being relatively shallow? Are you okay with tweaking and fiddling with software to get 3rd party stuff to work (e.g. Metroid Prime in VR on Dolphin)?
If the answers to these questions are yes, then go for it.
There's plenty of upcoming games (killing floor, serious sam, raw data, star trek, eagle flight) but there's not much software that doesn't rely on the tech being novel.
If the concept of VR is awesome to you, and you've watched videos of gameplay and stuff, I'd say you're gonna be okay, so long as you're not breaking the bank for it.
>>344255168
>I want /v/'s opinion on if I should buy one of these. I have the hardware to run it. I have a decently large area to play it in.
you may have the space, hardware and money to buy one but whats the point when there are hardly any games for it.
unless you dont mind just buying tech demos what will never be nothing more than just tech demos.
>>344255992
>outsold by Vive 2:1
says who? steam? the ones who have their logo on the box? lmfao
>>344256119
i mean theres no hint of facebook fucking with it so far, home isnt that weird, its just a storefront really
rift works with steamvr anyway, including the motion controls, so just get rift+touch and play all the vive games anyway lol
>>344257521
That's actually not a joke, but it's misleading cause it's steam hardware survey result.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/virtual-reality/vive-oculus-survey-june/
>>344257437
yeah this is what's getting to me right now. all the games are just demos and early access shite. it's really depressing desu. I want that experience so fucking bad and it's so close but just not here yet. Maybe waiting for Vive 2.0 wouldn't be an awful idea...
>>344257684
I think the price will drop. I am not expecting it to hit $300, but $500 is definitely possible. PSVR for one is actually $500 if you get the bundle with the camera and the controllers, $50 extra for that mandatory camera alone.
>>344255168
No way I can wholeheartedly recommend it to buy mostly for these reasons
>>344255330
but Everyone should get the chance to at least try it. If there's a friend or demo event by all means go for it. Haven't tried Rift but I just can't imagine not having roomscale.
>>344255168
I want one but just don't have the money. When the fuck is this shit gonna be affordable?
psvr = $500, no sex games, no future innovation, shitty controllers, bad performance/graphics. pros are?
oculus = $600 + unreleased(and uncomfortable) controllers, need tons of usb plugins, facebook spies on you, cancerous exclusives.
vive = $800, easy to use, has at least some innovation.
overall vive is the best offering if you want to play games and show people vr games since it has some fun ones and will get more. oculus is an inferior platform on pc and psvr isn't even proven to work well.
this is hardware aside mind you, because that doesn't matter that much.
Honestly wait till the next versions of the headsets. Great as the 3d is there are still some real drawbacks to be fixed. Very low resolution, limited peripheral vision, glare with strong light contrasts (like a street lamp at night).
>>344258138
No idea man. Probably within the next 2 years if I had to guess. I have the money for it but it's just so fucking much :O
>>344258282
>:O
Assassinate yourself
>>344258187
Given the Vive has it's clear graphics limitations I shudder to think what PSVR will look like.
>>344258324
sorry man. alcohol brings out the leddit in me
>>344258338
you mean resolution not graphics. psvr has the same display resolution but some games will be rendering below 1080p. and on vive/oculus you can at least downsample which removes the aliasing which makes games look orders of magnitude better. i've only tried the dk1 but downsampling on that was just fantastic.
a lot of people complain about the screen door effect and it is an issue but it's not something that should stop you from getting into vr. i mean if you really want to wait several years for a new headset to come out that's being severely picky, like skipping the 1080p tv 'fad' because 4k would eventually come out. like what.
>>344258542
>psvr has the same display resolution
it's lower.
>>344258187
>psvr = $500, no sex games, no future innovation, shitty controllers, bad performance/graphics. pros are?
Being the cheapest is definitely a pro. And from people who tried them, they were apparently the most comfortable to wear of the three.
I am expecting a PSVR2 when PS5 comes out anyway, but that is still a few years away. Yes, it is true you don't get porn, but Sony apparently.is making sure that there will be a variety of games on it as it is. If you want to game with it then PSVR is probably the most sensible option for now, and you would only pick either of the PC options for the pornography.
2nd Gen would be when all bets are off. But for now PSVR, especially for existing PS4 owners, seem to be the most affordable choice for what you are paying.
>>344258950
2nd gen will still be something you can complain about especially the console version. and being cheap plus having expensive games(tech demos, really) isn't really a pro.
plus vr is best when you have good controllers and vive is the only one that offers that. and no matter what, pc vr will always have the most games even outside of porn.
I belive i have come to a conclusion. instead of getting a vr headset, i will buy a new monitor. what's a good 1440p 144/120hz monitor?
>>344256759
Setting it up is half the fun, just like building a PC
>>344259168
>I belive i have come to a conclusion. instead of getting a vr headset, i will buy a new monitor. what's a good 1440p 144/120hz monitor?
Are you American? You could try booking for a demo with any of the headsets these days, depending on where you live. Always nice to try before making a decision.
>>344259380
Yes. I live in NC. The only VR experience I can find in my area is Best Buy sets up a PSVR demo on the weekends. I want to try a Vive so damn bad though. If I could just try one out that'd help me make my decision so much easier.
>>344257684
I can honestly say the VR shit is cool and the demos for it are pretty neat but its not worth the price.
>>344258187
>uncomfortable) controllers
lolfuckingwhat nigger? i tried this shit at CES and the occulus kicks the vives ass at controllers
occulus has like an xbox controller cut in half and the vives are like tv remotes.. guess which one is built to sit in your hand for hours on end and which is only meant to spend a matter of seconds in your hand?
>>344259643
>occulus has like an xbox controller cut in half
it's like the wii nunchuck but worse, what the hell are you talking about? that thing is straight up uncomfortable.
>>344259748
the wii nunchuck is symmetrical, ambidextrous, if you hold 2 nunchucks its like the vive, 2 of the same thing in 2 different hands, rift actually has left and right grips
>>344259892
the shape objectively gives you hand cramps and oculus controllers have less buttons and worse tracking than vive's.
>>344259975
>i get hand cramps from holding game controllers
holy shit what is wrong with you go see a doctor
>>344259975
>less buttons and worse tracking
heres the bit where i learn youve never used them lol
vive controller:
>trackpad button
>grip button
>main trigger
>menu button
oculus touch
>A/X
>B/Y
>stick click
>grip trigger
>shoot trigger
>faceplate grip touch spot thing
>finger tracking for thumb and index
Well i did a bit of research and it seems like there's a local vr enthusiast group in my area that has meetings every thursday. They let people try out Vives and Oculus's. Next meeting is next Thursday I might actually go, but I hope it won't be awkward as hell
>>344260450
do it bro, bonus points if theres any devs with touch, see if they will show you something
>>344260409
here's the bit where you made a fool of yourself
i enjoy how you ignored the vastly superior tracking too :)
>>344260571
Yeah apparently they sometimes have devs attend from local game studios and whatnot. I'll consider it.
The Vive is amazing and only "worth it" if you already have money to spend in general but not if you have to budget the next year around the purchase... I have a Rift too but it's just sitting in the corner collecting dust since I never even bothered using it after I opened the box.
>>344255908
>get an oculus
Ahahahaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55q9W6stwP0
>>344260638
>ill just erase the touch spot and menu button off those pesky touch controllers
>and ill just use the 2014 prototype vive controllers that still have 2 usable menu buttons instead of one being dedicated to steamvr dashboard
>i enjoy how you ignored the vastly superior tracking too :)
thats not what they say on r/vive, i see heaps of 'jitter' and controllers losing tracking if the cameras on or some shit and they did a test and the rift had less jitter and less lag so idk where you get your info from
>>344260889
>>344260889
>link for linis shill tips
>laughing at someone else
>Not realizing YOU are the FAGGOT
LOL YOU FAGGOT FUCK OFF
>>344260889
>says its better in pretty much every way and the touch controllers are too
>picks vive only for the sole fact that touch controllers arent for sale yet
did you watch the video too or am i the only one?
did you see the title and think it was pro-vive somehow? he even says he would struggle recommending either
>>344260980
Alright
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9R9NYBcAJ0
>>344261068
>>344261068
That's out of date and no longer applies since they stopped blocking accessibility. Facebook is cancer and Rift is late to room scale as well as touch controllers but the hardware is solid. The interface for their platform is also better and so are some of the "exclusives".
>>344261280
>late to room scale
nigga wat? rift does it with the single camera out of the box? have you ever used one? sure you want 2 for the controllers which is why they come with a second one, but the headset alone does roomscale easily
>>344255168
Wait a few years when things are more advanced.
>>344255168
>getting a vive
>not waiting and getting superior rift and touch instead
>more games
>can play all the vive games and all the oculus games
>more comfortable headset and controllers
>better screen
>can buy headset now and play gamepad games until touch comes out then be able to play literally any vr game in existence
or you could just get a vive
>can play the shitty tech demos on steam right now
>have to use hacks to MAYBE get SOME of the oculus games to even work
>no finger tracking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8FLNWN2jO8
remind me again whats the point of getting a vive?
>>344262228
>remind me again whats the point of getting a vive?
It has tracking controllers RIGHT NOW. While Touch doesn't have a solid release date.
PSVR wands works too, but obviously it isn't out officially yet.
>>344260450
Don't forget to give PSVR a shot. Just because it is the cheapest doesn't make it bad. As I say, I kept hearing people singing praises about how comfortable it is to wear.
>>344262775
>autists just wear the psvr with nothing to play
amazing
>>344262560
>literally cant wait for its release within the next 6 months
>sacrificing the quality of your >600$-800$ purchase because of impatience
but hey it has controllers right now, doesnt matter that they are more basic ones right?
>>344262907
>but hey it has controllers right now, doesnt matter that they are more basic ones right?
Moe basic compared to what? Air?
We have no idea when Touch is coming out, and even if it is coming out we don't know if it would be delayed, or if it would be any good.
If you want to wait, then wait until 2nd gen. If you don't want to wait until 2nd gen, then right now Vive is the only full experience in town, with PSVR coming next. Rift's Touch is a promise, but a promise isn't a product. They would have to ship it first.
>>344255168
The porn alone was worth my purchase of this.
>>344256759
Literally takes 20 minutes. You sorry excuse for a fat faggot human.
>>344263407I-Is the porn good?
>>344263374
>no idea when Touch is coming out
H2 2016
>we don't know if it would be delayed
well they solved the component shortage that hit the rift for a month, so thats not going to happen
>or if it would be any good
actually we do know this, theyve been showing them at trade shows and handing them out like candy to devs, yes they are good, very good, most say better than vive wands actually
why do you think all the devs are jumping ship from vive to oculus? who wants to see some wands in vr when you can see your hands instead
its a matter of quality, immersion and artistic vision too
>>344263686
CM3D2 + Vive + USB onahole == roomscale doggystyle with Nep
I saw the future.
>>344263698
>why do you think all the devs are jumping ship from vive to oculus?
Because they were being paid to.
Palmer even admits that right now it is not recommended to stay on only one headset because the customer base is too small, so anyone who want to have Oculus exclusive would only do so if they are getting paid. Any less and they are suicidal. No one is "jumping ship" because of Touch. No one.
>>344263819
Fuck I'm jealous
>>344255168
it's a retarded gimmick
>>344262228
>remind me again whats the point of getting a vive?
Not being spied on 24/7?
Not having another layer of shit DRM?
>>344263686
>>344263819
Depends, anon above mentions CM3D2, tried it I didnt like it to much.
Want you want is room scale porn so you can get in to the perfect positioning depending on the girls position.
I suggest trying Play club or honey select.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkX1zsj67_U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI8o02Ex9Bk
I played it in a store and it seemed really cool but in hindsight there is no point in buying it until they actually make worthwhile games for it, which i don't anticipate for at least 10 years
>>344264175
Not true. Japanese porn game makers are already there to integrate VR to existing titles and to design their next titles with VR front and center.
Then again, most dudebros don't consider those or sim games as 'games'.
>>344264097
>Born too late to explore the Earth
>Born too soon to explore the galaxy
>Born just in time for the waifu age
I own both Vive and Oculus, Oculus is much better hardware in both optics and general fit and finish. Oculus seems to have better lenses as far as I can tell since they should be similar resolution. Oculus tracking also seem steadier if far more limited. That may be impacted by my setup though. Vive sensors seem very sensitive to reflectivity.
Room scale is very cool, it's absolutely the thing to wow your friends with. But basically nothing worthwhile uses it. All the good VR stuff (Elite, P:Cars, real games via a VR injector like Vorpx) is seated.
I'd recommend people just wait. But if you really want one now I'd say Oculus. Particularly if you're looking to use it for stuff like Skyrim in VR or whatever. Vive is still great hardware though. The differences I see are mostly stuff that comes from side by side comparison. Given that both are open again I don't thing either is a terrible choice.
>>344263913
protip; even a multi-headset game wont make its money back theres so few headsets, either you take a loss or take a paycheck, so you pick a side to get paid by or starve your family
which is it? why wouldnt they just stay vive and get paid by htc if the vives so good? or does htc not care that its users have almost no quality games to play?
>>344264067
>Not being spied on 24/7?
>Not having another layer of shit DRM?
it has neither of those things, rifts can play anything without issue, no hacks or workarounds etc required, and why would anyone want to spy through a camera that can literally only see purple dots in a sea of black?
>>344264175
I'm playing through New Vegas in VR at the moment. After some fiddling with mods to get the hud and fov set up it's really, really awesome.
>>344255479
>hide it from my mom though cause she doesn't like me spending money on vidya
You cant post here if you are underage
>>344265050
yeah but doing that makes 70% of people sick so thats not a very good option
plus those injectors suck huuuuuge dick for 99.99% of games
>>344265050
You think it's worth buying VorpX now? Don't you pay a big overhead in performance to run that?
>>344264962
>protip; even a multi-headset game wont make its money back theres so few headsets, either you take a loss or take a paycheck, so you pick a side to get paid by or starve your family
>which is it? why wouldnt they just stay vive and get paid by htc if the vives so good? or does htc not care that its users have almost no quality games to play?
I didn't say it is a bad thing, I only make it clear that it is a LIE that Touch was ever a deciding factor for anything. Whatever that uses Touch would try to make it work for Vive wands too. It would be foolish otherwise. It is untrue that Touch is some magical thing that developers are salivating for.
>>344256759
>literally dream of owning one of these
>no income student
>some dude on /v/ has one but can't be bothered to hook it up
I feel actual pain in my heart
My biggest concern is if I buy a headset now how obsolete will it get in a few years time?
Will I still be able to play the latest VR games?
I really want to fuck my waifu in VR so I'm tempted
>>344265285
>about to type a serious answer
>btw i wanna fuck my waifu xD so random and anime!
>>344265285
Faster than GPU. I think Oculus and Rift 2 are going to make enormous leaps in fit and comfort as well as dealing with screendoor effect while making the setup not so cumbersome by reducing the weight of the wires or something like that.
JUST tell me what will be the best option for illusion porn games.
I dont want facebook to know that I fap to 3D anime lolis if its possible
>>344265168
how to you point your index finger out to press buttons with a vive wand that cant tell what your finger is doing?
touch is literally the difference between having your hands in a game and having a pair of floating wands in the game, i know which one is more immersive
i cant think of any dev that would willingly use the wands knowing full well they serve as a constant anti-immersion reminder that you are still playing a game holding wands and not actually using your hands in the virtual world
>>344265285
It'll be obsolete before you get it out of the box, AND it'll be impossible to run with your current rig.
Wait 5-10 years for hardware to progress enough on both sides, and then don't bother anyway because you aren't going to be able to fuck your waifu, you stupid fucking retard.
I can't believe how retarded people are about the potentials of VR when all they can think is "maybe someone will make a game where I can fuck girls even though there are already thousands of them and only a handful are in 3D". None of the 3D games are even worth playing, why would that change when you put on a headset?
>>344265137
>Don't you pay a big overhead
Maybe? I have SLI 980 Ti's so it hasn't really been a concern for me. That said, you actually run in 1280x1024 due to the resolution of the headsets so I suspect the extra overhead really isn't bad. Basically like running in 1440p.
>>344265129
Adrift made me queasy when moving laterally while spinning the viewpoint. New Vegas and Skyrim have been absolutely no issue however. I'm actually a little frustrated how down devs are on standard character movement considering how well the headtracking+mouse movement works in those games.
>>344265448
japan barely knows htc and vive exist, they literally have festivals dedicated to oculus hentai already
I really want a Vive but there is currently no way to buy one inHuelandwithout paying 2x the original price. And to be honest, if I could get one for at least a week I would have enough fun before regretting the purchase.
>>344265495
>I own a GT 220 and let me tell you about why VR is bad
You can get a GPU that can handle VR games for like 200 bucks.
>>344255168
Got a lot of money to waste away for a gimmick and not be financially affected? Get it. It's what i would do if i had the money because i want to play some games with modded in VR
>>344265673
I wouldn't go min spec for VR. But a 1070 will crush all current VR stuff no sweat.
>>344265673
The current resolutions are a joke, and even if you were dumb enough to upgrade right now despite there not being a single reason to, you're still going to have to go it for the next step up in headsets.
If you think you can live with 1080p cancer, wait 5 years and pick one up from a bargain bin for a dollar.
>>344265137
>You think it's worth buying VorpX now?
If you already have a headset? Yes.
Mine has been sitting in a box for a over month because I'd rather play overwatch than strap that sweaty thing to my face
>>344255168
Are you a VR enthusiast? If yes, then buy it.
If you only want it for games, then no. Not yet at least.
>>344265773
For twice the price, yes. And a 1080 crushes a 1070, what point are you trying to make, higher price = higher performance?
>>344265876
No. That buying a card for the current minimum VR spec isn't a great idea.
>>344265857
>tfw I'm in the same situation, but don't even have time for Overwatch due to too much IRL
>>344255479
Just tell her it's a masturbatory aid and ask her ifbshe wants to use it.
>>344265958
Meh, my RX 480 works fine atm. I'll buy an actual flagship card when I own a 1440p 144Hz monitor, so not right now since they're stupidly expensive.
I've had mine for two weeks now, there aren't a lot of games with actual content. Elite Dangerous has very good VR implementation but the game itself is a shitty grind simulator. There are some racing games if you're into that. Minecraft is pretty fun. Plus dozens of shovelware titles that are massively overpriced. I've had some fun playing audioshield.
I wouldn't buy it for the games right now and it doesn't look like there are actual games coming out until next year.
But the porn and porn games are absolutely amazing. I use my vive for multiple hours every day just for that. Had some of my best orgasms in VR.
>>344266978
>. Elite Dangerous has very good VR implementation but the game itself is a shitty grind simulator.
One strongly recommended VR game it seems is Battlezone. But it is a PSVR timed exclusive.
>>344257521
Cuckulus doesn't do room scale, how can you play all the Vive games without that feature?
>>344267653
but it does tho
watch the dudes channel in this link >>344262228
>>344255168
Before you buy:
http://vr.mkeblx.net/oculus-sim/
Click CV1
That's what the Vive/Oculus looks like.
Not this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjE6qXd6Itw
Every game you play, every application you run, it will look like you're viewing through a screen door with motion blur, with weird lens glare from the imperfect lens itself.
Everything that requires reading, you will have to get close to read. It will not look like the above video with crisp perfect text. It will look like a blurry mess.
This is the hard truth I learned after buying and returning my Vive. That, and you will never have enough room in your playspace to truly feel immersed. Not without sinking another $1000 into a treadmill.
>>344267975
I actually had the Vive on for two hours, it's nothing like that at all.
>>344267906
looks more like stand in one spot scale
Oh wow, how amazing. And Interesting too, but in this VR world, what can we do?
>>344268149
What can we do?
>>344268226
GREAT NEWS
>>344267975
>screen door
Yup. About right.
>with motion blur,
No. Turn on low persistance, Consumer models don't have motion blur problems.
>with weird lens glare
I've only noticed this on Vive. Oculus has much better lenses.
>>344267975
>>344268427
Also that's capped at 62 fps. Vive and Oculus both target 90.
>>344268143
i said the channel not just that video, most vive games are standing anyway tho
>>344267975
never link that cancer site again, its nothing liek any of that
