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Thoughts?
Fuck you
>>344254965
stop, that hertz
>>344254020
too poor
>>344255085
Fuck off pedro
Pointless at the moment. I'd rather play something in a higher resolution, be it 1440p or 4K, than sticking with 1080p just because of a higher framerate. It's also not going to change any time soon, because even when GPUs get to the point where they manage to achieve 144FPS, it's just going to be used to get better graphics at 60. You gotta be a retard to buy a 144hz monitor plus a decent GPU just so you can play TF2 at a high framerate.
Anything 70+ is fine for me.
Overkill
>>344254020
120hz is enough for me (that's good for up to 240fps, mates.) and I'll not be upgrading my monitor until it breaks but I acknowledge that higher is inarguably better. No downsides to better refresh rates.
If this one does break, I will of course go for the highest possible refresh, and let me tell you 144hz will be old and busted real soon.
>>344254020
30 fps console cinematic experience is fine for me. anything more than that is just a bonus.
>>344255438
What? You can have both right now.
>>344255438
2560x1440 on 160hz is godmode
>>344255438
>144FPS
144hz is good for up to 288fps, m8. That's why 120hz (240fps) is good enuff.
The real reason 60hz monitors (120fps!) are no good is because your desktop would be a flicker fest that hurts your eyes. Anyone who thinks that they need high refresh rates to benefit from high framerates is a real chump.
>>344254020
Wish more games utilized it. still cool though
>>344255438
You do realize that there are 2K 144hz monitors right?
Because I'm using one right now in case you didn't
>>344255681
Not really. High resolution panels with high refresh rates are expensive and still a bit hard to find, hard to drive with current GPU technology, unless you're playing old shit like TF2 which I mentioned, and on resolutions like 4K for example, up until a few months ago, you couldn't even get high refresh rates running on it, simply because it wasn't supported on the available DisplayPort specification, but 1.4 now allows up to 120hz on 4K.
Right now the trade-off you need to make is either getting a 1080p with high refresh rates, or a higher res one at 60hz, unless you're planning to spend a lot more to get a 1440p at 100hz+
>>344255654
>60 hz can do 120 fps
I'm literally laughing at you right now. 60hz means the monitor refreshes at 60 times a second
hz = fps, it's a direct correlation you fucking tard
>>344255438
>>344256249
Meh, it's a good balance between price and quality. The VG248QE it replaced was a piece of shit, and I still have a Catleap for accurate color reproduction. A good IPS 1440/144Hz is like $600+ and a lot of them have quality control issues.
>>344255662
nice b8
>>344254020
It's only useful for like serious sim racing or twitch shooters. You don't need it for anything else.
>>344256031
you forget that higher refresh rate looks good on desktop, playing videos and input lag is lower than 60hz monitor 25ms vs 3ms
also if your fps is low at higher refresh rate you can't feel slowdowns at all anything higher than 45 fps
>>344256405
The TN panel is the trade-off you're making though.
I'm personally waiting for a not too expensive 1440p UW with 70-100hz and G-Sync. The X34 is perfect, but also insanely expensive.
>>344256686
>The TN panel is the trade-off you're making though.
>balance between price and quality
That's what I said.
1440p 144hz has spoiled the shit out of me. I would never naysay a monitor upgrade again.
>tfw XL2730Z + U2715H master race
Truly the GOAT monitor setup.
>>344256686
>The X34 is perfect
>$1300
>only "up to" 100hz
Dunno
>>344256928
no kidding, I didn't expect 27'' 1440p be this good, same pixel density as 4k and not that hard to drive
>>344256935
As I said, it's insanely expensive for me.
The 'up to' thing means it's 75Hz but can go up to 100Hz through "overclocking", which probably isn't even necessary with G-Sync, as there are lots of reports on how lower framerates appear to be higher when it's on, since every frame is being synchronized with your display.
>>344257074
>same pixel density as 4k
Do you have down syndrome or is there just a piece of steel rebar lodged in your skull?
>this fucking thread
You guys are all fucking retarded, holy shit.
>>344257271
>which probably isn't even necessary with G-Sync, as there are lots of reports on how lower framerates appear to be higher when it's on,
Not really. It's really the other way around. Higher frame rates on non-G/free-sync monitors may appear lower due to poor frame timing/pacing and runt frames. A low frame rate with G/free-sync will still be low.
>>344257424
Do you have any sources on that? I've read and watched a lot of stuff related to G-Sync, and I always see multiple reports on how you can get that 60FPS 'feel' while just running at 40.
>>344257395
>/v/
>technology
Not even once. If you see a thread on /v/ that could be even tenuously related to technology, PC hardware or anything like that, run a fucking mile. Don't even discuss that shit on /g/.
>>344257582
Source: own a 144Hz G-sync monitor and 144 Hz no-sync monitor.
Lads I'm gonna buy a 144hz monitor, what do I need to know in terms of lightboost/strobing/ULMB/whatever the fuck? Can't I just use the monitor as-is or will it be significantly worse?
The monitor I'm looking at is the AOC G2460PF, I hear it has better image quality than the VG248QE and XL2411Z while being way cheaper than the LG one.
I have one and it's great. Screen tearing was beyond awful on my 60Hz monitor with vsync off but with this 144Hz one it's barely noticeable to me anymore so I can play most games with vsync off, and some games have problems with vsync so that's good. In the few games I can actually play at 100+ fps it looks very good too. I would rather have a higher potential framerate than a higher resolution so it's good for me. Some people might prefer resolution though.
>>344254020
It's incredible at first, but you quickly become accustomed to it and it takes some serious fucking autism to become way too noticeable when it drops from 144 down and still above 60 when in the middle of a game. Especially if it's a FPS and you're in the middle of combat.
It's good. I wouldn't get a high refresh display over a nicer display though. So few games are even capable of making use of 144hz and you commit yourself to a constant GPU arms race. If you are hardcore into a game that's easy to hit 120+ FPS in though, it's a godsend.
...otherwise, you aren't getting anything a 60hz display with a nice panel can give you.
..panel quality is the main drawbackTto 144hz right now. The AVHA panels in the 2K models are the best we've seen at that refresh rate thus far, but they're expensive, prone to a lot of IPS glow(particularly in the corners), and have pretty shitty contrast.
>>344254020
I have a 144Hz Gsync monitor and I absolutely LOVE it.
Retard here, why is 144 and not 120?
>>344258575
they could've made it 150hz but it works bad with video playback because everything in 24fps
>>344258575
because 12*12 is 144.
>>344254020
A poor non-solution to the problem LCDs have.
Unless you meant a CRT with 144Hz in which case, congratulations on your great refresh rate and colors but shit resolution.
>>344257291
81 ppi 27'' 1080p
109 ppi 27'' 1440p
135 ppi 31'' 4k
almost same jump as from 1080 to 1440
>>344258575
The benefit to 144 is that it's a direct multiple of 24Hz which is what movies typically shoot at so you don't need 2:3 pulldown, plus most games will run with 144Hz and don't require a multiple of 60Hz to play properly.
>>344259727
>The benefit to 144 is that it's a direct multiple of 24Hz
So is 120
>>344255869
You mean 3440x1440
anything about 60hz 1080p is a placebo
>>344260319
>anything above this arbitrary limit I set is a placebo
>>344255482
Would fucking smash
>>344254020
I just picked up 3 144hz asus monitors from my local bestbuy since they are going out of business got each on for 120 bucks.
>>344259678
>raising the screen size to help your argument
lol
27" UHD = 163 PPI
>>344256931
>falling for the benq meme screen.
im fine with a lower budget 144hz asus monitor, since the colors come out shit anyways. I checkd out my friends BenQ and its pretty much the same as mine color wise.
>>344254020
Between 4k and 144hz I chose 4k.
Now I'm stuck with being only able to play demanding games at 1440p and blurry upscaling of 1080p content in general.
>>344258120
me too XD
Too expensive atm.
>>344260785
200 dollars is too expensive?
must suck to be poor anon.
>>344260841
>200 dollars only
Seems to me you don't quite understand how this works.
>>344254020
anyone who thinks that it isn't a big upgrade over 60hz is either blind, retarded, poor, or a combination of the 3
>>344256031
You're an idiot.
>>344255482
Who is this schoolgirl (male)?
I don't think it is a must-have unless you're into some competitive scene where low latency is practically required.
Or if you got enough money to shit out without care.
I'll be going with 720@60 until all my shit breaks. I don't really care as long as stuff is playable.
>>344261902
>720
>>344260929
it seems like ur poor anon
>>344261970
Yeah dawg. I even play my pc games on my tv at 720. The kicker is it goes up to 1080 but I just don't bother because it makes text slightly harder to read.
hz>resolution
720p at 200fps is better than 4k at 60fps
>>344262052
You must be an old fucker if the HIGHER resolution makes it harder to read.
>>344261974
Sorry, I spend all my extra money on coke & hookers.
>>344262151
Nah it makes everything smaller and sharper. Sharper is nice but the smaller is irritating. Plus I think 720 is the native resolution of my tv.
Either way never really cared too much about graphics. Even when I upgrade and have that brief period where my pc kicks ass I still hardly notice a difference.
i don't respect the opinion of anyone with a 144hz monitor. 4k or bust your poor faggot.
>>344262607
I don't think you've used a 144hz monitor anon.
>>344260764
>>344260764
Witcher 3 runs badly I got a gtx 1080 and was only getting 38-43FPS on ultra 4k resolution.
Meanwhile on GTA 5, Bioshock infinite and Doom4 was getting more than 75 FPS on average
Fallout also a bit heavy but runs better than witcher 3 I get more than 50 FPS and in heavy area like diamond city to 42-45.
tested on specs:
OC'ed gtx 1080 at 2050mhz, CPU at 4.6ghz.
even without overclocking I was getting more than 60FPS on mentioned games.
>>344262687
i have and it's a meme, what good is a 144hz monitor if i don't play FPS games? literally useless outside of that.
>>344254020
I would love it but I rarely hit 144fps in a game unless I lower the settings, but I can't go back to below high (medium for just the witcher3)
I love my 970 but she just doesn't have the power.
>caring about fps
But human eyes can't see more than 30 single images in a second, so why bother with 144?
>>344263221
>This meme again
S-T-O_P
>>344255482
Dat is a boy, son
>>344263341
noice
>>344263458
>>344263658
yes it's ok
>>344263341
Really makes you think, huh?
>>344254020
meme framerate
>>344264024
It's really easy if you have the faceTestosterone worked on the wrong places.Right places?
>>344255654
>120hz is [...] (that's good for up to 240fps, mates.)
wrong
>>344264203
>4k
meme resolution without 144hz frame rate
Currently considering to get a BenQ XL2430T.
Is it worth it?
>>344264350
i have a 1440p Acer XB270HU that's worth it.
http://au.pcmag.com/acer-xb270hu/34463/review/acer-xb270hu
>>344263341
Then fuck me in the ass and call me faggot.
>>344264579
The XB270HU currently costs a 1000 euroshekels on amazon.
The XB270H is half that price and seems to have the better Response Time
What's the difference between the two?
>>344265202
Second one is only 1080p
>>344257395
And you fit in perfectly with us, so what's the problem?
>>344265295
Oh, you're right.
I thought I got lucky.
>>344264707
But you're male
>>344265664
Females don't have prostates anon. Only males can truly get off being fucked in the ass.
>>344265727
Really? I will have a long talk with my wife after work then, that lying cunt.
>>344255654
Not really, there are diminishing returns when refresh rate increases.
>>344265202
Never trust the listed stats, they can be much higher than listed. You need to find the minimum and preferable g2g response.
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/content/acer_xb270hu.htm#detailed_response
A screen listed as 10ms could be better than one listed at 4ms if it's 10ms across the board and the 4ms quoted one goes up to 20-50ms g2g's as well. So you really need to get a solid review that lists the average response time to get an idea of how well it works.
On the XB270H you'll probably want to also use ULMB at 85Hz.
>>344266051
He said there are no downsides. Diminishing returns is not a downside.
More refresh rate is always better than not. Whether or not it's worth it to get 500hz monitor compared to 200hz monitor for example has no bearing on the fact that a 500hz is better than 200hz.
I only play competitive games (League, Overwatch, etc) so I don't care about graphics, everything on low and give my the 144hz less frames just terrible
>>344266508
I wasn't saying it was necessarily a downside, more so replying to the old and busted bit.
told friend to buy a 144 hz monitor
friend says human eyes cant see more than 60 fps
how am i supposed to respond
>>344266643
>competitive games
>>344266720
Punch him
>>344266720
You show him yourself, seeing is believing
>>344265727
>Females don't have prostates anon. Only males can truly get off being fucked in the ass.
is that true?
>>344267030
Are you serious
Too poor for 1440p 144hz....god I want to upgrade my 60hz..
>>344266812
Punch him at 144Hz. Ask if he saw it coming.
>>344267073
yes
>>344267030
Males are the only ones that do prostate exams for a reason
>>344266720
There are videos documenting the issue.
>>344267129
Then yes, it's true and I'm surprised it isn't common knowledge.
>>344267172
well i didn't know...
>>344266720
how would there be a market for 144hz monitors if they were fake / didn't work since " people can only see 60 fps" also just kill your friend sounds like a pig retard
>>344254020
Theres evidence of the rones and cones in the eye being clocked at a maximum update of 60hz, the testing 'confirmed' it
buuuut the tests were an image flip while the eye was stationary
if your eye moves in even slightly toward the direction of movement, it can account for much higher than 60fps even if the cells are locked at that based on the image processing in the brain
especially after the 'expectation' of certain images becomes know, its easier for the the brain to work them out
also, first hand experience with higher than 60hz on old CRT monitors, 85hz was waaaay smoother for me, cant imagine what 144hz looks like
>>344267224
I presume you dont know what the prostate does
>>344267359
144 Hz monitors ARE legit but you see some meme audiophile garbage with tons of marketing that sells like hot cakes.
>>344267368
I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure you eye doesn't see in frames.
>>344267368
>Theres evidence of the rones and cones in the eye being clocked at a maximum update of 60hz, the testing 'confirmed' it
Eyes don't work with "frames", they continously receive and send data to the brain. Retinal persistence is the key not some made up "facts" about cones and rods.
>>344254020
I have a 144hz monitor and I can't tell a difference.
But that sweet, sweet placebo effect feelsgoodman.
>>344267419
not really
>>344267539
If you can't tell a difference then that means you haven't enabled 144hz in your display options
>>344267440
>>344267482
they dont they're analog, thats why i said hertz of the cells idiots
>>344267423
Don't be mad other people can appreciate and experience something to a greater degree than you.
>>344267539
>I can't tell a difference.
Its time to check your eyes then. I have 100Hz and the difference is huge between 60 and 100
>>344254020
For me personally, not worth it. Too many unoptimised games and to be frank, too few interesting games. While it does improve general desktop usage too, I don't think it justifies the price. To each their own, I guess.
>>344267591
based retard
>>344267627
I don't mean stuff like proper high quality sound material, I'm talking about meme gold plated jack cables, BOSE etc.
>>344267579
Well it probably doesn't help that most 144hz monitors don't output 144 distinct frames rather than creating a ghosty muddy mess since their only physically built to update at 40-60Hz usually at best.
>>344267671
I meant the difference between 120 and 144.
Fuck 60 and 100.
Broke ass niggas.
>>344267695
>To each their own, I guess.
More like I cant afford it so I will make up reasons to not like it.
>>344267591
What about the hertz of the cards?
>>344267829
Sorry I didnt realize I was replying to a stupid nigger otherwise I would have drawn my response in paint so you could understand it better.
>>344267747
Really? I'm really glad I have a monitor that is actually capable of displaying 144 hz then.
>>344267698
>I don't mean stuff like proper high quality sound material, I'm talking about meme gold plated jack cables, BOSE etc.
I see. I misread your post, thinking you dismissed 144hz as insignificant. I still wouldn't scoff at the "enthusiast" tier equipment, unless it's laden with elements that in no way improve the reception.
it's a meme, what we really need is 4k OLED with low persistance
>>344267910
anime was a mistake
>>344267936
>Sorry I didnt realize I was replying to a stupid nigger
How the fuck did you not realize that? This is /v/. 99.999999999% of the posts are shit stupid niggers say. If you were expecting any different, you're a stupid nigger.
I went from a 1080p 60hz monitor from like 2009 to a 1440p 144hz monitor from 2014 and it's the most next gen jump I've felt in a long time.
It's a really noticable improvement.
60hz is fine for general play
144hz should be competitive standard though, and once you play on a 144hz you can't comfortably go back to a 60, even 120 is less enjoyable, without adjustment.
>>344267985
Okay then
>>344268284
Aren't his internal organs crushed?
>>344267865
Whatever floats your boat.
It's so, so good. It makes the viewing experience of games much more pleasant than 60Hz ever could. Also, unlike what a lot of people claim, it's not *only* useful for competitive gaming. Anything slightly fast paced will feel much better at 144Hz. Hell, even moving your mouse around the desktop feels good.
I wouldn't be able to tell you if it's better than having a high resolution because I've never seen a screen >1080p.
At any rate, I also made sure to have a screen with adaptative sync as well (G-sync/FreeSync), because as great as high refresh rates (and high res) are, if you play a game that can't fully exploit your monitor (for example: locked at 60fps), then you will kind of have wasted your money, for that game at the very least. But with a-sync, you will always have an improvement.
>>344254020
I dont care.
>>344268382
Probably
It would be nice if everybody saying its good would also tell what GPU setup they use.
I have a GTX 980 and I can barely get 60 stable for most new games at 1080p.
>>344268382
No, they've been stored in jars.
>>344268808
I'm using a R9 390, but I mostly play older games and indie games.
>>344268808
Getting 60 fps in all titles maxed out, even some at 1440p like Dark Souls 3. Have to tune down grass a little bit in GTA V.
>>344268808
My machine is pretty decent, it can get a solid framerate in most games.
Even if speccy for some reason thinks my 980Ti is only at 2GB.
>>344268965
That's not the point, you'd most likely need to have at least 2 GPUs to enjoy 144 FPS with everything maxed, even at 1080p.
That's why I'm curious what's the average graphic setting one can set with one 980/390x and still reach 144hz stable.
The difference between 60 and 144 is seriously night and day. Going back to 60 feels extremely choppy.
>>344269125
My guess is turn off AA and most titles should run fine at 144 Hz, unless you're playing something stupidly demanding like GTA V or The Witcher 3 where you'd need to sacrifice some detail or distance scaling.
>>344269125
>That's not the point, you'd most likely need to have at least 2 GPUs to enjoy 144 FPS with everything maxed, even at 1080p.
That's not even close to being true.
>>344269358
DOOM is a miracle, and Vulkan is not even out yet. It's hard to believe it and Wolfenstein TNO share the same engine.
>>344269358
If I remember correctly this place is actually just a corridor. How does it hold out when there's an actual fight in a big room?
Mind you, I'd love for a single GPU to be capable of delivering stable 144hz, preferably something cheaper than the 1070, but I'm trying to be realistic about my expectations.
>>344254020
There's no harm in having a 144hz display. At this point in time I'd rather stick with me 96hz 2560x1440 Korean monitor.
If you can afford a 144hz monitor as well as the hardware to play at 144fps at your desired resolution then there's literally no reason not to.
>>344269507
>If I remember correctly this place is actually just a corridor. How does it hold out when there's an actual fight in a big room?
That's with vsync turned on, standing in that area actually runs at 180fps @ 1080p and about 150ish at 1440, can dip below 144fps in some fights with a lot going on @ 1440, but never at 1080.
>>344269443
They really don't. TNO was id Tech 5, designed by John "MEGATEXTURES LOL" Carmack. DOOM is id Tech 6, the vast majority of which was designed after Carmack left and they replaced him with the lead R&D graphics engineer for CryEngine.
>>344269774
Is there are reason to have vsync turned on if you have a g-sync monitor?
>>344269810
Oh, I see. Thanks for clearing that up.
>>344269853
No, there isn't.
>>344268093
are you me? the novelty does wear off pretty quickly though and it just feels normal
>>344269853
g-sync isn't going to help you if the game is running above the specifications of your monitor (IE, above 144hz) so you can still get tearing.
>>344270082
Isn't it possible to lock the framerate with software or a console command?
>>344270082
Which is why you should cap the framerate.
>>344254020
That's one of my favourite frequencies.
>>344268256
yeah even just going down to 60 for a minute by changing settings feels like your brain is being fucked with, it's so different it's like someone is pulling a prank on you it's unbelievable
surely isn't worth upgrading from 120hz
>>344270295
Unless you get the monitor for free, probably not.
>>344254020
Meme
>>344268808
i7 920 and gtx 980 1440p gsync
If anything a lot of the problems I have with 144hz is that a lot of games just don't support it and have framerates natively capped at 60fps or tie game speed to fps speed.
>>344268808
a gsync monitor would help you
