How can Nintendo save Star Fox?
By reading your constant shitposting threads.
>>344225179
People who think Star Fox can be saved are people who blinded themselves into thinking Star Fox was any good.
Easily Nintendo's worst IP
>>344225274
Thanks
Take Zero.
Add twice as many levels.
Either drop motion controls or make them optional.
There, done.
Krystal. More Krystal.
Make StarFox Assault but more fucking cuhrayzee
Make the space combat actually fun and with some freedom like Star Wars Rogue Squadron
The ground combat can be a basic TPS with cover & shit
make Fox a girl
>>344226571
Also add multiplayer local and online dogfights
>>344227543
Will she have a love interest?
>>344225179
Falcowho is also a girl
Star Wolf mini campaign
Star Fox Assault:
Actual flying levels are fun, on-foot and tank levels could use some work
Now, if you're a competent developer, how would you fix these problems?
You could:
a. Ask the people who played Star Fox Assault what they liked and didn't like about the game and change it accordingly
b. Focus on areas that were underutilized in past entries and make those better
OR, if you're Miyamoto and his team of Yes Men at Nintendo:
c. Cut out all the stuff that didn't work and put a gimmick on the stuff that did. Also cut the game time in half.
Miyamoto's created some of the greatest games of all time, but in 2016 he's a senile old fuck who's completely out of touch with what his hardcore fans want.
>>344225179
ace combat but in with space with customization ships and more weapon vareity.
>>344225179
Remake Star Fox 64 again with 2 hours of content and 100 barrel roll memes.
It won't have Krystal in it, and we all know Krystal is the sole cause of everything bad in Star Fox!
>>344230334
this
>>344225179
KI: Uprising with classic and motion controls, difficulty slider, online, hi score leaderboards and no rebooting anything pre-Command.
>>344230334
>mfw this actually would save the franchise and is all anybody except the furfags ever wanted
Get HAL, Sakurai, or Platinum (without Miyamoto direction) to do it
>>344230609
Then why didn't Zero save it?
>>344230882
It didn't have enough memes
>>344230882
Controversial control scheme, poorly-executed alternative paths.
Let Insomniac have it.
>>344230882
-Mediocre presentation
-Lack of marketing
-Not enough content for today's standards
-Gyro controls turned down consumers
-It's a fucking Wii U exclusive
>>344230882
shit controls, shit gimmicks, too much free range garbage
>>344226681
I need the sadpanda link
Zero's design was already good
Just add more content with original and creative levels instead of 64 again
Get rid of gyrocopter
either improve or make the gyro optional
and add multiplayer
Otherwise Zero has the fundemental template for the perfect star fox game, especially the improvements to All Range Mode
>>344231102
>-It's a fucking Wii U exclusive
That's not a flaw
Look at Splatoon
>>344231152
>too much free range garbage
All Range Mode was great, go fuck yourself
>>344230491
This sounds awful
>>344229761
It feels like development consisted of the team trying to perfect the controls as the number one priority and brush everything else as secondary because of Miyamoto.
>Star Fox: Assault one of the best multiplayer games on the Gamecube and a genuinely fun shooter that did infantry-vehicles-aircraft all on the same map well before Battlefield came to consoles
>everyone shits on it for not being a singleplayer on-rails piece of shit
>>344231527
Splatoon is by far the most-marketed Wii U game
>>344230882
Controls are the "love it or hate it" Dillema that the majority canned as hate it
Graphics are fucking terrible, despite how great the presentation and action was very well made
Level Select system for an otherwise short game that relies on replayability kills this
No Multiplayer and enough content, if Star Fox Guard was included in the game itself rather than seperate than maybe
Otherwise, fix these problems in a sequel with a more original story, and your golden
>>344231597
On foot's controls needed polish
>>344231597
No people shit it on cause it was a peice of shit that handled like ass, and I'm pretty sure Halo did the multi-vehicle combat first.
See all this?
Fix it or at least most of it.
>>344225179
Get miyamoto and cuckbert the fuck far away from the franchise
>>344233172
This
If they had spent less type on trying to push the controls and more time working on a variety of content, it would have been a stellar title.
I saw in an interview with Bill and Miyamoto that one of the bigger reasons for the delay was because the feedback from Star Fox fans who tested it were unhappy that there were no branching paths and were originally planning it as a quote "short pick up and play title", meaning they were literally added the branching paths as an afterthought because they were so deluded in thinking people would forgive it for its new control scheme.
http://www.usgamer.net/articles/star-fox-zero-in-hindsight-the-developers-on-the-controls-the-decision-not-to-include-multiplayer-and-the-future-of-star-fox
>Not surprisingly, the new controls were what caused Platinum and Nintendo to shy away from multiplayer. "I think the main thing we were really focused on.
FUCKING WOW!!! What the hell were they smoking.
>>344233867
>Wii U is dying
>People are skeptical about the Gamepad's real use
>People are also begging for a Star Fox revival
>Hatch an idea to satisfy both
>New "innovation" is the Gyro control cockpit
>Uses the Gamepad's gyro control for immersion and as the biggest selling point while playing it safe by making it another retread of 64
>Focus on the controls most of all throughout development
>Game comes out
>Few people like the controls or feel that they were necessary
>One of the reasons nobody buys the game is because of the controls
>NoA doesn't even bother marketing the controls
>Have to defend the game by saying it's fun with friends and with children
Pottery
>>344234141
Desperation to try and justify the Wii U's gimmick?
>>344234141
>>344234350
the NX won't have this problem, r-right?
>>344235253
It'll at least have traditional controller support judging by BotW
VN with dating elements.
>>344226681
How would they reintroduce her?
Would you date Krystal?
Make Krystal thicker.
>>344236572
As the new main character
>>344233172
>there are SF0 defenders that will claim this is just nitpicking
>>344236746
Krystalfag I just realized you are now the lesser annoyance in Star Fox threads.
Feel good about yourself now
>>344237503
Did Prentendo poster outdo us?
What did Zero do right?
What are some good ideas that could have been better?
>>344225179
By making the sequel of Atar-Fox Adventures.
they can't
>>344238132
Cody certainly did
>>344225179
Just make another Kid Icarus game.
>>344238145
The level where you fly through the shield is fucking awesome. The super fast speed level is fucking awesome.
Nothing else was awesome.
>What are some good ideas that could have been better?
Chicken walker could be good but the issue is it's just the arwing with less mobility. There's no advantage to turning into it. Finding that advantage without crippling previous strengths will fix any issues with it.
Just fucking scrap the gryowing, that thing is a fucking mistake.
More on-rails missions, I don't know how nintendo has missed this so many times now.
and most importantly, remember that the fun of these levels is replayability! Enemy placement is very important!
Post the ass
>>344240067
Why is she so sad?
>>344226571
Wait, they are not optional?
>>344225179
Simple. Mix assault and 64 into one game with online and no cringy VAs and don't force any gimmicks into it. Also, no miyamoto
>>344241748
Nope
>>344241748
nope, you can disable them from being on all the time but it just creates a bigger issue than them being perma on.
Lylat wars RTS with a focus on expanding the universe and story rather than trying to inflate two dimensional characterswho I wish could've been deep because they're cool
I have a suspicion that a Club Nintendo poll results for Star Fox 64 3D was one of the reasons Zero focused on Gyro controls
>>344242219
It's not, it's entirely miyamoto. He was assigned back in 2014 to make games that justified the use of the gamepad. Star Fox was one of them.
>>344242189
If they do announce that they would have to announce a traditional Star Fox in development to avoid disasters like pic related
>mfw Nintendo lied about motion controls not being required to play before E3
>>344242648
If I recall that was an assumption people made and was never actually confirmed.
>>344240609
She had her game taken
>>344244098
Dinosaur Planet?
>>344240197
here it is
>>344225337
Yoshi is their worst ip easily.
One decent game, a million terrible rehashes of said game and a truckload of garbage shovelware with mario characters slapped on
>>344225179
CRYSTAL
>>344225179
they can't. Star Fox has lost it's relevance when rail shooters died and nintendo is beating a dead horse each time they experiment on this series. And furries only want their Krystal/Fox/Wolf fanservice to fap to it and dont actually care about the game. Let it stay dead
Make it furry mass effect, with gay romances and all.
Honestly though, like most Nintendo franchises, SF would benefit from more characters, what don't we know about the main cast at this point?
>A single-player campaign that's much longer and at least decently written, not asking for the next 10/10 feels simulator or something
>Dogfight Mode, Race Mode
>Keep most of the game to the skies in flying an Arwing and make it feel good
>This is just my own stupid idea, but have any ground sections just be simple 2D sidescroller, walking around worlds and accepting missions, getting stuff on the Great Fox from Slippy, etc etc whatever, no combat
>Customizable outfits, Arwings, Great Fox, everything
>No Krystal because lol Krystal
>>344225179
Star Fox eroge
>>344246358
>SF would benefit from more characters
Command Anon
Star Fox Command
>>344247258
ok then, make a Command with less SRPG elements (which is what people hate about that game apparently)
Honestly, turn it in to mass effect with a focus aerial and space battles.
I don't mean a psuedo RPG but things like side missions and actual choices in where you go to accomplish a goal when you want. Large areas with open flight for side missions while adding in traditional starfox rail shooting for specific missions.
Let us manage our Great Fox, fighters and crew while accomplishing goals in a game that takes more than a bit of spare time to 100%. Sprinkle in a bit of grounded missions for boot and tank gameplay.
Will never happen but it's what I've thought of for it.
Give it a Kid Icarus Uprising tier revival
>>344242219
>>344242546
Star Fox Zero focused on gyro controls because an investor at one of the investor's meetings asked how Nintendo had justified the Wii U's GamePad with any of their software. He claimed that all of the first party games released on Wii U were the exact same game with or without the GamePad.
SFZ was delayed in order to demonstrate an experience that only the GamePad could deliver.
>>344249063
>nobody uses 3d on 3ds, 2ds now exists
>nobody gave a fuck about motion controls for major releases on Wii
>DSi's "interactivity" and emphasis on the camera was a fucking mistake and made it the shittiest DS iteration
>Wii Fit made money because your mom thought it would cure little bro's diabetes, but it was quickly abandoned
>Fucking Wii U pad is pointless except for taking literal shits while still playing
Nintendo for the past decade-ish has always been about digging beyond the pointless gimmicks to try and play a good game.
>>344249063
Oh investors
>>344245375
The Yoshi series has two good games. I can't possibly see how you can like Yoshi's Island but not like Wooly World. It is an absolutely perfect sequel in every way.
Animal Crossing is their worst IP easily. Life simulation games are never good. At least with Star Fox Zero I can get some entertainment value out of it.
>>344236572
I would just establish that the next game takes place several years after the original and that the team has grown. Sometime after Assault but ignoring Command. A soft reboot, essentially.
