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fuck these three so fucking much
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fuck these three so fucking much
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>I will lose you
Pardon?
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>>344222258
>main 76 in comp
>play widow if the situation is right
>placed 60+

Widow has her place vs some team comps
Genji is a pub stomper and -can- do well on defenence depending on
Hanzo just attracts the idiots in the fps world
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>>344222371
>retards on your team pick them
>do nothing all game long
>you lose
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>>344222258
On a rare sight those can be pretty useful.

I'm yet to see a d.va who carries her weight.
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>>344222258
But Widowmaker is actually useful if the person playing her is good and she isn't on attack
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What would be the holy trinity of "I will win you this game"? I'm thinking Lucio, Reinhardt, and Pharah.
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>>344225874
76 is pretty solid, same with a mercy
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>>344223690

Does that not apply to any hero doing nothing?
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>>344227267

Funny how the meta changed after the McCree nerf. After the nerf, Pharah became more rampant so S76 become more common to combat it.
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>>344227867
It was probably the Widowmaker nerf more than the McCree nerf. Widow can still kill a Pharah with two bodyshots, but the quickscope fix killed a lot of Widows' peripheral vision.
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THE DRAGON BECOMES ME
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>>344229629
RYUJIN NO KECOME HERE
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>>344223804
A Dva that can fly her ass over to the turret that's fucking up our day while shielding is worthwhile - I do my best

Genji is more of a "fuck this guy is annoying" character but whenever he's on my team I hate it. Hanzo's gay dragons help us out a lot, so that's fine. Widow maker is just whatever

>>344227267
This guy gets it
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Gotta have those auto-scapegoat characters so you never have to make yourself actually get better.
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>>344227867
And now MCree is buttfuck useless :(
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>>344223964
Widow maker on Attack on FIRST points can be good.
See: Anubis and Kings Row
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>>344222258

>two people insta-pick genji
>accept the fact that this will be a double genji team
>one weeb was slightly faster so the other one goes to change
>maybe something nice will happen
>he picks hanzo
>why the fuck would anything nice ever happen
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>Route 66 on defense
>attacking team has a Widow AND a Hanzo

they barely got to move the payload, I genuinely felt bad for the 4 people stuck with them
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>>344234993
double genjis is viable but the two genjis have to actually coordinate assaults on enemies so they both get the cool down reset.
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>>344225874

Pharah is only really good with a mercy. Easily countered otherwise.
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>>344225874
Zarya, Winston, 76
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>>344234808
>Anubis first point
6 Pharah GG EZ. The first point is literally handed to the offense unless defense is stacking torbjorns and symmetras and offense is too stupid to deal with it.
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>>344222258
>someone picks Hanzo
>someone else picks Widowmaker
>on Attack
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>Play Genji a lot
>Consider myself decent, carry my own weight
>Half of my games someone picks him after I already did
>Wait a few seconds to see if they will switch but they almost never do
>End up switching

How do I stop this madness?
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>>344225874
literally anyone with AOE denial and AOE attacks

so probably like Winston/Reinhart/Zarya and then you gotta have someone to deal damage consistent damage over distance so like Soldier 76 or McRee. Then you need a Support with healing or boosting health. Mercy can res and Zenyatta has powerful healing and discord orbs.
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>>344238074
>zen
>win
What game are you playing?
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>>344237969
dont switch
let them realize youre the better one
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>>344237969
ask them to switch because you were first
As long as you're polite, people are usually nice about it
If they don't switch, it literally doesn't matter in quick play. In comp you shouldn't be playing genji anyway
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>>344238165
Mercy's ultimate is definitely better but Zenyatta is better at offense. I think Zenyatta needs like +25 more shields and he will be an okay hero.
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>>344238313
Im one level from being able to access comp but havent played this week. Whats wrong with agenji in comp?
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>>344238509
There actually isn't anything wrong with Genji in comp as long as you're actually good. The problem is that a Genji who isn't really good is a waste of a slot, and he draws a lot of shitty weeaboo trash who think he's uber elite ninja and don't know how to play.
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>>344238353
>Zenyatta needs like +25 more shields and he will be an okay hero.
Until he gets buffed he's shit tier because he dies the moment someone looks at him.
He's nowhere near "automatically win the game"tier
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Selfish cunts always ruin online.
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>>344222258
D.Va should be on there because of incompetent waifufags who main her instead of using her for her purpose
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>>344238756
>Genji who isn't really good is a waste of a slot
why do these kinds of classes always attract shitters?
>all snipers in all games
>genji
>tf2 spy
etc
9/10 they're clogging up servers and played by literal retards, except the one time they're on the enemy team absolutely wrecking your shit
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>>344222258
Add Zenyatta and D.Va
Remove Widowmaker and Genji
Your image is now valid.
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>>344236431
Every time I play Zarya I feel like i'm not doing anything because my team can't stay alive long enough for me to get enough charge and then I usually get ganked down.
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>>344238821
yeah his abilities are pretty good but he is so damn squishy.
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>>344237969
I plug my mic in and call them a fucking retard.

We don't need two motherfucking genjis you retarded faggot. You're a level 12 what the fuck do you think you're even going to do.
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How do we fix Symettra?

literally her only reliable ability is giving people shields.

Increase capacity for sentries to 6 (up from 3)?

increase the charge ball damage on her gun?

allow unlimited teleports until the teleporter is destroyed?
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>>344237292
It's defense you don't want Widow or Hanzo. They can do well against Bastions and Turrets on attack, but Defense they just miss shots repeatedly and never contest the point.
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>>344222258
A decent Widow is almost always a good addition to the team and WILL win you games. Hanzo is overplayed and underpowered. Genji is fine but is fucking hard to play right and usually attracts shitters.
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>>344222258
>genji
whats wrong with him people who usually pick him shit on the enemy in soloque from my experience
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Reminds me of Leagueshit
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>Really like playing with my friend
>He's low level and kind of sucks, picks bad classes and sticks with them
>Try to give him advice, but he's really stubborn about his class
>Don't mind, I just enjoy playing with him regardless
>He gets bitched at by my teammates the entire round
>Not really sure what to say but stay quiet
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>>344239440
She can beat anyone 1v1 50/50
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>>344239690
I know the feeling. I try explaining that you can't play just to "have fun" and still win or not get shut out. You NEED good team comp or nobody has fun.
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>>344222258
Widowmaker has the most underrated Ultimate. It doesn't matter if she's bad, her ultimate helps the entire team and if the team is good then they're helping more than they would if they played a different character
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>>344239440
Increase sentry capacity to 4. That would be enough to put up a full 6 before the match starts.

Teleport capacity should be upped to 10, but not unlimited.

Projectile speed should be inverse to how powerful it is. Full charge goes as slow as it is now. No charge travels 5 times faster.
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>>344239731
i am talking about her role as a support hero.

just pick an offense hero if you want to talk about killing people.
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What kind of player am I?

I main 76 on attack and Junkrat on defense, and if we need a support I pick Lucio

McCree is useless now
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>>344222258
>genji
>not fucking reaper
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>>344239731
>M1 is literally melee range
>200 health
No. I'm not stupid enough to underestimate her M1 at full charge, but she absolutely needs to be with her team or sentries to kill any non-idiot.
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>>344234571
No way, I win with McCree all the time.
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>>344240219
You're alright, but you already knew that and just wanted to get your dick sucked
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>>344240270
Reaper can decimate tanks and is needed pretty often against tank heavy teams now that McCree was nerfed into the ground. It's been a while since I've seen a bad Reaper.
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>>344240471
Nah I used to main McCree pre-nerf and people said I was cancer
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>>344240219
You could have said Soldier 76 for all 3 and it would be fine. He's stupid strong.
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>>344234571
He's not useless. It's just that soldier and reaper do what he can do way better.
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>>344240617
Am I crazy in seeing no reason to play McCree over him now?
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>>344237969
Switch sometimes and don't switch other times.
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>>344239690
That's like a buddy of mine
>he picked up OW last week
>play with him
>He picks bastion 100% of the time
>"We're playing KotH you probably dont wanna be bastion"
>"We're attacking on a cart match, bastion isnt the best choice here"
>I lose 75% of the time playing with him
>He keeps getting PotG because bastion
>Anon, did you see that great PotG?
>"great, but we lost again"
>yeah, but that PotG though
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I don't get the widow/Hanzo meme, every one of those I see in ranked they are absolute gods and usually requires a counter pick . Might just be my MMR though.
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>>344240270
Except reaper is good. Even a retard can contribute since his ult is great.
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>>344240685
McCree needs to deal more damage long distance (more than Soldier 76) and he will be viable again
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>>344240184
>support hero != healer.
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>>344222258
Genji fucks up way too many things with his bullet reflection to be lumped in with hanzo.
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>>344240895
i never said anything about healing.

you were the one who brought up 1v1 when we were discussing support heroes.

what the fuck does that have to do with anything? what is the point that you are trying to make?
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>>344240685
McCree can't compare in basic utility or attack range, but he isn't completely useless. A few good hits from either will put the other one down in a duel.
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>>344240504
Any time I play with a reaper (or multiple reapers) they are always trash

>ulting to kill one guy (not even on the objective)
>running into a 1v6 situation and then spamming "I need healing!"
>trying desperately to up their k/d as if it matters at all
>mouthbreathing into the fucking mic

Probably my confirmation bias but whatever. I can recall like 3 games where we had a decent reaper.
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>>344234808
Widow can actually do pretty well attacking Anubi's second point as well. Theres a ledge where she can get a clear view straight down the alley to take potshots at the enemy team. Its also a good point to countersnipe from if the enemy team has a widow.
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>>344239440
She's fine. She's one of the few situational characters in a game where every character is supposed to be situational. Only fix she needs is to be labeled a defense character.
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>>344239690
Tell them to stop being try hard faggots and have fun or tell them to leave because you aren't changing
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>>344240685
If you're facing off against a team with a couple of really good flankers, and you can't track them with 76.
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>>344241146
>Only fix she needs is to be labeled a defense character.
but that would mean having one less support and overall it's not looking good now.
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>>344240786
>bastion is a bad choice while pushing a cart.

Nigga, you've never seen bastion ride that fucking thing to victory have you?
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>>344241038
She fills her role as a support character and doesn't need any major fixes like you were implying. Her teleport helps people get back faster, her turrets supplement damage around choke points, she can throw out shields.
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>>344241146
I'd rather she get reworked so she's just as useful on attack. Maybe instead of placing sentry turrets she creates turret drones that float around allies and shoot anyone nearby. Merge it with her shield-giver and have her create up to 5 support drones. They're 50 HP each, entirely in shields, grant the target ally 50 shield while they're up, and shoot anyone within 10 metres. Then give her a different E.
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I feel so shitty sometimes. I am either a god at Roadhog, hooking people off maps, clearing points, 3-4 golds every match. Or I am by far the shittiest person on the team and am clearly the reason we lost. How do I tip the scales so I am on the good side every time?
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>>344241434
I never said
>bastion is a bad choice while pushing a cart
I said probably not the best choice.
bastion on a cart is good, but you ideally want rein shielding him, or a mercy nearby to heal him. or both.

and if its a map like numbani, were it is point capture into cart... good luck even getting the capture
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>>344241434
spot the rank 30 shitter
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>>344222258

JUST
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>>344222258
>play mercy a lot
>always spam mb1 to fire pistol
>see other people fire faster than me
>earlier today, find out it fires faster holding down m1 over pressing m1
>mfw
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>>344241917
do the objective
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>Everyone on the team except one guy has picked their character.
>No Supports
>Alright cool, he'll probably pick Mercy or Luc-
>Genji
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>>344242775
This is why I normally stick to S76 and Roadhog on pubs.
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>>344242775
so go support.
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>>344242871
Thats not the point.
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>>344241910
Never try to balance a game ever again.

>>344241346
A new support is coming soon anyways.
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>>344243029
good. i'm tired of only seeing Mercy and Lucio every game.
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>>344242685
I do, but I am not sure you realize how shitty I am when I say shitty. Sometimes I can't even get to the objective. I either completely hold the line and no one passes me, or I can't even get there.
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>Genji and Lucio press Q at the same time
>TEAM KILL
very high skill esports potential game
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>>344223804
>I'm yet to see a d.va who carries her weight.
i guess you've never been in a match with me
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>>344222258
skill rank 27 and i win all the time on genji
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>>344243029
>A new support is coming soon anyways.

Is anyone not excited about this new support?
A long range sniper-healer. seems pretty bleh to me.

I'm sure she'll end up being a blast to play like the other supports... though depends on her abilities.

I just hope a zen buff happens soon. I love zen, but he is worthless atm
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>>344239731
she loses to winston and dva and sometimes roadhog because she cant kill them before she needs to reload
dva especially because once the mech dies she just jumps out of it out of range of symmetra's M1 and pewpews the rest of her hp down
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JUST
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>>344243428
>Genji ult
>able to get teamkills
Kek. Come back when you actually play the game.
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>>344239521
gg this team ;-;
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>>344243853
>the D.Va too
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>>344243428
every hero as a Q
all your allies have Q's
all your enemies have Q's
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>>344243428
You misspelled Zarya

Also while we're talking about ults I just want to say that Mercy's is rustling my jimmies real hard.
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>>344222258
I recently picked up overwatch and have played nothing but Genji and Hanzo in competetive, done horribly but had fun, and no one has given me any shit.

Is everything about this game a meme?
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>>344244484
Mercy's ult is the only reason she can compete with Lucio so it's fine.
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>>344244742
Yes.
I picked Mei once and someone sperged out so hard they quit before the match started. Competitive mode is a joke, right now.
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>>344242871
>2 damage dealers 3 tanks, and last guy picks a roadhog

If i'm a damage, what do?
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>tfw attack Symmetra
>tfw people bitch to me to change class to some bumfuck useless hero.
>tfw my sentry guns and my rampant lock on DPS gun blow through every class and my teleporters keep the pressure up.
>Literally become an unstoppable team repeatedly because everybody thinks she's a useless hero.
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Your Genji: A weeaboo faggot who can't play for shit

Their Genji: A god of flanking and constantly rapes your backline with his ult
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>>344239245
Honestly, Zenyatta is "i'll lose you the game tier" right now. Especially when someone picks him as the only support.
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>>344245430
>"in truth i just got carried by my damage dealers and the enemy team being fuckall retarded losing a 5v6 but i had a teleporter down and sentries on the payload i did godly"

i throw games if i get queued into people like you. literally go waste people's time in quickplay if you want to lose
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>>344244875
had a teammate sperg on me and leave the moment he saw my competitive rank at the start of the game :(
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>>344245741
this. if you wanted to slow people down just pick Mei.
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>>344245741
Oh no I'm playing a team game and my team is doing stuff as well. How awful.

It's almost as if it's teamwork.

Also I can chew through a lucio and mercy in six seconds for the two of them combined, sentry guns are just a distraction for my team to shoot them in the ass. Not everybody plays classes that are built around "wah I want to be a solo one man army who gets stomped apart by roadhog.
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>>344222258
I can understand the weeaboos but I won two games today that I otherwise wouldn't have because i swapped to widow.

Widow is fucking amazing on hanamura offense stage 2, and if the enemy team has pharah(s) that are really shitting on your team then widow is the only reliable counter.
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>>344227342

Underrated post
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>>344222258
>zenyatta isnt in the place of genji
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>>344246058
You clearly haven't experienced the joys of yanking them out of the sky with Roadhog yet.
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>>344246868
As much as I love hog, he has a harder time countering good pharahs than widow does.
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>>344247092
this.

Pharah can fly over rooftops inaccessible to Roadhog
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>>344246868
>Started playing Roadhog a lot trying to git gud with the hook
>Now I can't stop playing him every game
The hook just feels so satisfying to use.
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>>344247342
>That Zarya kill

kek
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>>344247092
True, but he is so much more fun to play as. Besides, nothing beats the satisfaction of interrupting their justice raining from the sky and dragging them down to your level.
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>>344243853
I've played with a guy called betaname the other day who only used Hanzo, useless piece of shit.
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>>344239521
Gg this team
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>play mei on every level regardless of weither I'm on attack or defense
>always have very positive k/d ratio and time near what ever the objective is
>win alot of games for my team cause i can stall like a mofo and have good twitch reflexes with my abilities
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>>344249825
too bad she's fat as fuck
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Name a post-2006 shooter were the sniper doesn't attract the biggest idiots.

Oh wait that's right you can't.
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