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Why did it fail so spectacularly?
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It's pretty successful in japan
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Because it's literally a PSP 2.0 without piracy, which was the only thing that made the PSP worth it.
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>>344214408
no backwards compatibility
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>>344214408
No games, overpriced bullshit, it offers little over the DS
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POST GAMES YOU ENJOY ON VITA

RECOMMEND GAMES

GRAVITY RUSH WAS AMAZING
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>>344214408
didn't secure monster hunter exclusive
didn't secure smt exclusive
expensive compared to 3ds
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>>344214408
Jrpgs have failed to be good in the past decade
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>>344214408
Is that
a PS Vita?
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>>344215319
>No games

It does have games.

Weeb games.
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>>344215353
i mean if you thought gravity rush was amazing youll probably be able to play anything on the vita and think it's great

and i owned a launch vita + gravity rush
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It lost its only two games to the Ps4. I use mine sometimes for remote play when I'm in bed.
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>>344215294
It has backwards compatibility with the PSP and PS1. But only games bought from PSN. Range of Vita Compatible PS1 games is better in EU for some reason too.

It also has a large range of PS2 ports.
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>>344215261
>Because it's literally a PSP 2.0 without piracy
Where the fuck are the esclusive Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, GTA and Kingdom Hearts games then?
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>>344214408
i use it as my weaboo machine since games there are cheaper than their PS4 version.
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>>344215603

on 3DS
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>>344215353
Pretty much every Vanillaware game.

Especially Odin Sphere Leifthrasir.
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I stopped buying games for mine after I filled up my memory card.

Memory card prices are a bitch and savegame management is nazi tier.
I'm glad it failed.
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>>344214408
No franchises

PSP had Monster Hunter, exclusive GTA, God of War, Dissidia, Parasite Eve, Silent Hill, Ghouls n Ghosts, Megaman remakes, Castlevania remakes, a fucking prequel to Final Fantasy 7, Gran Turismo, Killzone, multiple exclusive Metal Gear titles and a fuck ton more of huge NAMES that could sell consoles.

Vita just had downgraded console ports and weebshit.
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>>344215603
Yeah the PSP had a much better library.
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Its better then the 3DS, if only not for it two biggest faults.
the shit suport of sony in the west and the retarded memory cards.

This thing had it all, powerfull (find me a mobile game that looks better then the psvita killzone game) godlike oledscreen, great controls, great everything.

But no, sony had to fuck it up with those retarded memory cards.
And as soon as it started getting rapped in the sales by the 3DS they completly bailed on it in the west.

I have one, i played some great games on it, but these days its gathering dust and i'm wondering how easy it is to crack a 3DS.
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>>344214408
Monster Hunter went to 3DS
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>>344216083
>i'm wondering how easy it is to crack a 3DS.
Easy (but not psp easy) as long as your firmware is low enough.

I own both and for that reason alone, I'd rec it over the Vita.
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>Top 10 Vita games
>A bunch of ports and indie shit

Wasted potential, Sony abandoned it too soon.
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>>344216498
Fuck you, piracy killed the PSP.
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Mobile killed handheld gaming. I guarantee you that in 10 years there will be neither a Sony nor Nintendo dedicated handheld gaming machine.
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>>344215353
Soul sacrifice had pretty awesome game play. And the absolute gnarliest lore. It was so cool.
Get the Delta version though, obviously.
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>>344215603
GTA wasn't exclusive, and FF and all PSP Metal Gears except AC!D were fucking shit.

>Kingdom Hearts
DS had one, also kys senpai
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>>344216879
The FF games were nice.
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>>344216502
The Vita's good games are too obscure for generic top 10 lists.

The thing is getting Shiren 5 this fucking month, for fuck's sake.
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>>344214408
>Why did it fail so spectacularly?
no games if you aren't an autistic weeb
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>>344214408
sold more than the wiiu
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No piracy, expensive proprietary memory cards, nogaems
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>>344217454
No it didn't, Ruggarell. Vita barely has sold 4M, Wii U's sold 12.
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N O

G A M E S


weebshit doesn't count
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>>344216704
It died for a noble cause, considering it's still the GOAT handheld because of it.

>>344216879
>all PSP Metal Gears except AC!D were fucking shit.
AC!D 2 was probably the best, but I liked all of them, even PO.
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>Memory card was more than half I got the system for
>I've filled it with nearly half the space and still haven't spent as much as the card cost
>Sony actually thought they'd get away with this
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>>344215353
any and all drpg's.
i didn't expect get so many on one system.
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>>344216879
Who the fuck mentioned DS?
Are all Vitafags literally autistic?
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>>344217659
By that logic the 3DS doesnt have any games either.

Handhelds are fucking shit tier.

Only viable portable platform is mobile.
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>>344216712
PC killed console gaming. I guarantee you that in 10 years there will be neither a Sony nor Nintendo dedicated gaming machine.
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>>344216879
Ac!d was crap, whereas the sequel was excellent.
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>ITT: If the Vita had piracy, it would be GOAT
Fucking hate this stupid mindset. Kill yourselves.
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>>344214408
nogaems
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>>344218361
But it's true. The Vita would be the perfect emulation machine.
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>>344214408
No big name games.
Having something like GTA, MH or a exlcusive FF game would have helped.
Expensive memory cards
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Nintendo acquired exclusivity rights to Monster Hunter. Monster Hunter was bar none the largest Sony handheld franchise and the key to making it compete with the Nintendo handhelds which already have very strong franchises, Pokemon being the most obvious example. I'm not sure how Sony managed to let this slip through their hands but it did one way or another. At the end of the day it's all about the franchises for sales and the Vita simply doesn't have them. They dropped their trump card and they didn't have anything else to fall back on.
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At least It's not the Wii-U.
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>>344214408

-Stupid proprietary memory cards made out of sheer jewishness
-Western devs don't give a shit about it, making it unappealing to those who don't want a weeb game machine
-We only get a fraction of it's games in the west, because weeb games are a niche market
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>>344214408
Sony dropped support just as the console hit stride since AAA handhelds don't print massive dosh. This sucks extra hard since it had such a great launch.

Stores refused to give the Vita shelf space. It had to compete for token shelf space with the Ouya and other experimental garbage while the 3DS got entire racks despite it nogaems'd harder than the PS3 on launch.

The 3G functionality is locked to one of the most customer unfriendly carriers in the US. Even with the 1 month for 1 free game deal, most people not to opt to bend over for AT&T once they got their game.

A lot of cool functionality like Near was stripped or reduced to a joke since Sony didn't want to maintain or pony up for the underlying infrastructure.

All the exclusives were moved off the console.

Strangely enough, the Vita pulls a surprising amount of collector's editions for people willing to buy straight from the publisher.
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>expensive memory cards
>pushing "hugh-end" console graphics on a portable device
>wanting for it to play consoles games instead of portable games
what is the point of making a handheld with amazing specs but market it as portable cawadooty machine? they should had market the vita with games that could make new interesting mechanics. like nintendo did with the DS family.
inb4 begin called a nintendrone my favourite portable is the psp. I Also spend more time playing games on it last gen
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>>344218261
Except consoles are doing well while handheld has been on decline. Meanwhile, iPhones offer the exact sort of convenience that consoles do and are nothing like the complexity of PCs in the mind of the consumer. It's a completely off-base comparison.

Consoles were able to pivot as media centers and that's why they are still highly relevant. Look at how many people claim they prefer console gaming because they want to sit at a couch and play on a big tv rather than at a desk and monitor. Handheld gaming devices over no such experience over mobile devices. They both occupy the same space, offer the same sort of convenience, while one offers much more than the other. To say that mobile vs handheld is similar to PC vs console is so ignorant it's baffling.
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>>344218852
At least WiiU has a dozen of interesting exclusive.
Vita has like 2.
And seeing how it's losing exclusives left and right soon it won't have even those.
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>not enough system seller games
The first wave of Sony-backed exclusives was pretty good: Gravity Rush, Killzone, Uncharted, Tearaway, they were games that had mass market appeal and were techically very impressive. Unfortunately, that wasn't enough and none of them was *that* good that it could sell systems on itself. So instead of actually trying harder, Sony just pulled the plug on it too soon and left us with a machine that now only gets JRPGs and indie games. Market appeal: close to zero.

>ridiculously expensive memory cards
Nuff said. The one responsible for them should be hanged.

>no homebrew and piratism
Even though they aren't really 100% must for a system to sell, they sure could have helped to enlarge the userbase. Emulation was a major selling point for PSP after all, even if Sony doesn't like that fact.
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>>344217130
>>344216502

>The Vita's good games are too obscure for generic top 10 lists.

They're only obscure for people who have never played games on or owned a PSP and at that point, it would be a little hard to take their opinion on the Vitas games seriously.
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>>344215603
It's funny how Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, GTA and KH came out very very late in the PSP's life time and people thought the games would be there for it's first few years.
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>>344219318

>Same Nintendo rehashes we been playing for years
>Interesting
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>>344214408
Sony overcharging for memory cards.
Shit library
Tried to market it as a console on the go
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>>344219483
This list is full of shit games, though. And I've bought some of them.
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>>344219483
Most of those games already have better versions on the PS3/PS4 or are ports of older games.

Are you even trying?
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>>344219483
If it's obscure that means the games are shit because they're obviously not good enough to be famous.

Compare games like Mario, Pokemon, Animal Crossing, SMT, Etrian Odyssey, Fire emblem, Bravely Default, Monster Hunter and more are games that became famous because they not only represent the best of their types of games but they innovate and created their own popularity in the first place.

Then you look at the Vita and it's nothing but obscure shit which means that nobody with a love of good games would even like them in the first place when there are other games I mentioned earlier that represent the best of their genre which is why they are popular.
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>>344219758
So post some good ones you homo faggot.

What are some good Vita games in your opinion?
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>>344219146
Doesnt change the fact youre a nintenfuck. Why dont you dig up iwata's corpse and suck on his dick, shill.
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>>344219904
So according to this logic, COD is literally the best game ever made, in fact anything popular = good, because massively popular games means they are soo gooood right?
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>>344219580
>Implying the likes of Danganronpa and Persona are any different to this rule

I really like those games but lets not pretend anon,
"rehash" ≠ bad game, anon.
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>>344220030
Not him, but literally all the good vita games i've played so far are ports or have another version available for either the ps3 or ps4, lel.
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>>344217604

Nigga, the Vita hit 12m sold 11 months ago.

The Wii-U is 13M to date.
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>>344214408
I love Vita and 3DS because they remind me of Dreamcast
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>>344220145
COD sells 20 million every year and it does so because it's the best FPS ever made. The 3DS sold over 60 million which is why it's the best handheld ever made. The people have spoken and voted with their wallets, the 3DS is what people want in a handheld and not the piece of garbage the Vita is.
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>>344219904
>Fire Emblem
>Animal Crossing on 3DS
>Bravely Default
>Best of their genres

Famous doesn't necessarily equal good, Anon. We're past that point in the current state of the industry.

Obscure games aren't popular for a number of reasons- either too hardcore, marketed towards a niche audience, or simply belonging to a genre not too appealing to the masses.

>>344220167
To be fair, at least the Vita ports tend to have extra content, balancing and new features to make the purchase worth it.
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>>344216879
>PO
>PW
>shit
Slit your wrists and chug some bleach
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>>344214408
Not cracked.
I'd buy 3 if it was cracked today.
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>>344220145
Unfortunately, in the conetxt of what makes a system successful, i.e. selling copies and more hardware:
>anything popular = good
is exactly right. That doesn't make it a good game to play, just a good one to sell. And looking at the Vita, when we ask
>why did it fail so spectacularly?
that is the most important.
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>>344219318

>Mario Kart 8
>Mario Maker
>NSMBU
>Mario 3D World
>Yoshi 2D Platformer
>Donkey Kong 2D platformer
>Pikmin 3
>Memetoon
>Smash Bros (Also on the 3DS)
>Two Zelda Ports
>#Censored
>XBX
>Pokken
>Bayonetta 2 with a port of Bayonetta
>Hyrule Warriors (Also on the 3DS)
>Zelda U (Also on the NX)
>Paper Mario Sticker Star 2

Nintendo fanboys will do defend this shit line up.
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>>344220316
>because it's the best FPS ever made.
Hold the fucking phone anon
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>>344220163

Dangaronpa and Persona haven't been out nearly as fucking long as nintendo shit.
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>>344219318

>dozen

List twelve.


The fact is, Sony's handhelld niche failure is doing as well/better than ninty's dedicated home console in an age where portable gaming is in it's last gen, without MonHun and all the autistic shit. NX will have a a launch similar if not slightly better than the Wii-U then do similar or worse numbers.

Meanwhile Vita will get its usual niche jrpg's every 3 months or so (which understandably is not for everyone) and Vita owners get what they want from the system.
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>>344219318
Wii U is dieing to the ps4 as the Vita is dieing to the 3ds, Though the Wii U will suffer harder due to being a main line system. Also 3ds is bad, dated tech that's really shit.
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>>344220030
I'd rather just tell you which ones are shit.

>Gundam games
>Superbeat (shit soundtrack and gameplay doesn't fit the Vita's controls well)
>World of Final Fantasy
>Ys Celceta
>IA/VT
>DQ Builders
>Trails of Coldsteel the Hedgehog
>Wipeout 2048 is fucking shit in comparison to HD
>Corpse Party
>P4DAN
>Oreshika
>Danganronpa
>Only good post-PSP Project Diva game is the first f
>Extella
>Freedom fucking Wars and SSD
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>>344220458

>MARIO MARIO MARIO MARIO

So this....the power of.....nintendo consoles

Woah.....
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>>344214408
Trying to muscle into an already established market by Nintendo while trying to get those normies to them all they put on it is generic weebshit.
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it didn't?

it's like the 6th best selling handheld of all time

20th best selling console of all time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles
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>>344220615
>So making the spinoffs and sequels is completely fine

Their concentration of games over a certain amount of time is much stronger than their lineup anon.

You can't be two ways about this.
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It's a shame this board is such a Nintendo safe space. Because I think the vita is the best handheld yet. My 3DS just collects dust. I would have sold it when thr new 3ds came out but I don't like selling my games or systems no matter how shitty they are. Even though it's been collecting dust for years and I'm playing my vita right now.
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>>344220972
I use both my Vita and my 3DS regularly, they both have good weebshit. Fuck off.
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>>344215353
I liked this one
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>>344220950

Again

Nintendo been rehashing the same shit much longer.

These are New IPs
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>>344215353
velocity ultra
persona 4 Golden
sound shapes
knytt underground
touch my katamari
tales from space mutant blobs attack
project diva f and 2nd
senran kagura shinovi vs
guacamelee
runner 2
akiba'strip
thomas was alone
mousecraft
the swapper
don't die, mr. robot
olliolli 1 and 2
joe danger 1 and 2
pix the cat
ragnarok odyssey ACE
wipeout 2048TxK
Ys Memories of Celceta
hot shots golf: world invitational
llumines electronic symphony
kick and fennick
mutant mudds deluxe
furmins
neptunia rebirth 1-3
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>>344220972
>Not having a hacking 3DS
>Not owning both handhelds
>Being a console warrior

Your loss
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>>344220316
The salt
>>344220452
>Unfortunately, in the conetxt of
That wasn't the context, the subject was individual video games, your Nintendo friends tried to argue that popularitycorrelates good quality video games and he was exposed as the angry fanboy he is
>That doesn't make it a good game to play, just a good one to sell.
Exactly right, a high selling video game is not indicative of it's quality, the vita was a commercial failure despite having and continuously building a great video game of lesser known titles with great gameplay.

I guess when I spoke about people not owning a PSP it touched a nerve, old habbits die hard and it seems corporate loyalist stretched far back than I would've like to imagine. I dont mind people dissecting a system's hardware components or making arm chair remarks about it's place on the market but when you disregard an entire spectrum of video games just to talk shit on a system, for two whole generations, then its hard that person opinion on it's video games seriously.
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>>344220632
Bayo2
W101
DKCTF
Splatoon
MK8
Pikmin 3
YWW
XenoX
3DW
Mario Maker
Pokken
Kirby RC
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>>344221079
Just stating my opinion faggot. 3DS was my biggest regret in probably 10+ years
>>344221140
I have both though you mongoloid. Why would I bother hacking it when there isn't a single game I'm interested in? They're mostly all shit.
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>>344220972

>Only good games coming out for the 3DS this year is 7th Dragon and SMT:Final

What went fucking wrong? I thought the 3DS was suppose to be good, did I get tricked?
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>>344214408
Because nobody wanted to pay for overpriced SD cards.
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>>344221119
>persona 4 Golden
>sound shapes
>knytt underground
>touch my katamari
>tales from space mutant blobs attack
>senran kagura shinovi vs
>runner 2
>akiba'strip
>thomas was alone
>mousecraft
>the swapper
>don't die, mr. robot
>olliolli 1 and 2
>joe danger 1 and 2
>pix the cat
>ragnarok odyssey ACE
>Ys Memories of Celceta
>kick and fennick
>mutant mudds deluxe
>furmins
>neptunia rebirth 1-3

Literally all shit. You own a Vita and barely own any good games, what the fuck? Where do you get your recommendations from, /r/Vita or some shit?
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>>344220452
This. When talking about why Vita didn't sell, it doesn't mean jack shit if /v/ finds some game bad or not, what matters is whether that game will sell consoles. A bigger install base makes the system more attractive to develop games for, and it doesn't matter what generated those sales in the first place.

So yes, if Vita for example had a proper CoD game that would have sold that console for millions (and that thing that it actually got doesn't count), it would have been an extremely good thing for every Vita owner whether they liked CoD themselves or not.
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No games, proprietary memory that's expensive as fuck, no piracy for the no games it has.
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>>344220972
People don't realize that both handhelds have very different games, you simply can't compare Animal Crossing to Gravity Rush.
So when a Nintendo owner sees Vita's library of games and doesn't see a single MARIO X or Monster Hunter game then he thinks the system doesn't have any games.
I bought 3DS only to play Sega Arcade games.
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>>344221291
I only see one game worth it.
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>>344221113
>Actually ignoring it on one side due to petty reasons while bashing the other for the same shit
I guess I have no way to get through to you.

Again, your loss man.
If you want to stay bitter then do so, just don't invade threads with this lucency, 'alright?
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>>344221432

>Use anime reaction image
>Calling those game shits

Here your pity (you)
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>>344221432
He posted most of the games that were for "free" on PS+ and the rest was on -75% sale so that's what he recommended.
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Im a weeb , so it's nothing but a goldmine for me.
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>>344221291

Bayo 2, W101 and XenoX are lterallly the only things there for people that don't wear Pikachu pajamas in public.

3 games for one system anon.

There's a reason it's not selling.

Let's say everybody that owns a Wii-U buys a NX (unlikely)

Then what? Who the fuck else is going to buy it? Normies? People who skipped the Wii-U?
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>>344221454
Vita has a higher quality library than the 3DS though
Plus you can get a used 16GB card for 15 bucks or a used 32GB card for 40 bucks.
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>>344221556

I already decided Nintendo is fucking trash and I wish they would die.

So no you can't convince me.
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>>344221521
You better pick a pair of glasses then.
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>>344220950
Not him, but there've been like 3 danganronpa games, and then Persona has had 5 games since the ps1 with 2 director's cut versions and some psp rereleases.

That's not a whole lot.
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there's no actual upgrade in it?

upgrade would be if it could play PS2 games
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>>344220458
>People will pretend these are two different posters
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>>344221765

Kill yourself.
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>>344221743
>there's no actual upgrade in it?
Uh... compared to what?

Also, it has a lot of ps2 games on it.
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>>344221113
>Nintendo been rehashing the same shit much longer.

Not him but it's not like Nintendo don't make new IPs for their systems. One of their best selling games on their latest consoles is a new IP.
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>>344221635
>mature games for mature gamers such as myself!
Shouldn't you be busy playing pedo patsu quest #328744 on your Vita?
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>>344221556

How do you find the difference between 4chan and reddit anon?
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>>344221640
>Vita has a higher quality library than the 3DS though
No it doesn't. All the Vita has is weebshit. It doesn't have the diverse library that the 3DS has, and it doesn't have any games that regular people want. At least the PSP got more than weebshit and was worth owning since you could get a microSD adapter to circumvent Sony's bullshit MSPD cards.

>Plus you can get a used 16GB card for 15 bucks or a used 32GB card for 40 bucks.
I can buy a brand new 128GB microSD for $40. I can get a brand new 32GB microSD for $7.
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>>344214408
No relevant games

Too much weeb shit

Literally the only decent games available are either anime-driven RPGs, PS3 ports (aka Uncharted) and massive indie library (nothing to miss as long as you have a PC)

No Final Fantasy, MGS, KH, God of War or any series that made PSP worth it.
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>>344221640
>Vita has a higher quality library than the 3DS though
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>>344214408
MonHun could have carried it easily.
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>>344221982
This
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>>344221432
>P4G
>shit
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>>344221635

Wii-U is a console for hardcore nintendrones.

Only they will defend it and call it good.
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>>344214408
HOMEBREW WHEN?!
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>>344221982
>It doesn't have the diverse library that the 3DS has
Not him, but that's totally stupid. There's several genres of games that are more represented on the vita by far than the 3ds.


>At least the PSP got more than weebshit

Barely. If you look at all the worthwhile stuff to play on the psp it is almost entirely japanese games and rpgs.
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>>344221119
Muramasa, Odin Sphere, Tales of Hearts R, Senran Kagura Estival Versus.

Going through the Muramasa DLC now. So far I dig the demon cat chick (that ass, though, good lord!), but I can't say I'm digging that farmer dude.
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>>344222000
see
>>344219483

It might not have gow and mgs, although it dose just not original games but it has a few sequels and known IP's from the PSP days.

You're just touting some bullshit right now. Also it is getting a FF
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>>344221982

Only non-weebshit the 3DS actually has is MH, SMT and some first party Nintendo games.

Rest of it waifu pandering shit, which you fags like to call weebshit so get off that nintendo cock you fucking faggot.
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Where do I begin?

>No CFW
>Library is literally 95% indie anime games
>No Grand Theft Auto
>No Kingdom Hearts
>No Elder Scrolls
>No Final Fantasy
>No Twisted Metal

It sucked total ass compared to the original PSP that had a fuck ton of great exclusive titles
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>>344222142
>P4G
>Not shit
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>>344222059
Prove me wrong. I fucking dare you. Name at least FIVE games that are worth buying a Vita and then name FIVE 3DS games that get completely destroyed by those you mentioned.
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>>344222059

>Posting a image with a character from neo-fire emblem

Drink bleach.
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>>344215427
nice one
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>"Why did it fail?"
>But Nintendo!

I know plenty of you are false flagging but holy shit the rumours aren't false.
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>>344222350
>>No Grand Theft Auto
>>No Kingdom Hearts
>>No Elder Scrolls
>>No Final Fantasy
>>No Twisted Metal

I seriously don't get why you faggots keep whining about shitty franchises that were never meant to be on a handheld anyways. The best thing about the PSP was all the obscure weebshit, not the shitty GoW or KH games.
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>>344214408
those fucking memory cards made it a no-go for me
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>>344222180
Do we have to go through this again?
Jepanese games =/= weebshit
If you can't see the difference between this and the anime shovelware that is the entire Vita library you're a desperate fanboy that should be put out of his misery.
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>>344222532
>GTA
>FF
>Elder Scrolls
>Kingdom Hearts

>shitty franchises

What are some good franchises then? Hatsune Miku?
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>>344214408
>$100 for a good sized sd
>meh game lineup if you're not a turboweeb, what it does have is mostly played better on pc or ps4
>no pokemon, monster hunter, missing lots of square enix games

Good hardware but everything else fell flat on its face.
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>>344222694
See >>344222673
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>>344222673
>Calls people desperate fanboys
>Makes blanket statements about an entire system's library being weebshit

lol
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>>344221921

If you mean Soul Sacrifice Delta that I picked up for $10, sure.

It's not like the either of Nintendo's consoles have games that don't appeal, it's just there are 3 on Wii-U and maybe 5 on the 3DS, whilst charging a premium for 16bit games on a stone age e-store where nothing is ever on sale and even used copies of say, waifu emblem still hhold a premium because of the rabid autism the 1st party part of the fanbase infect jrpg'ers with and turn thhem in to hoarders

Meanwhile at Sony...

https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-gb/big-in-japan/cid=STORE-MSF75508-BIJVITA
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>>344222359
confirmed never played
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Do you think they made FF Explorers to fund real games like pic related? I would not be surprised if the DQ7+8 ports were being used to fund the development of these games
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>>344214408

Honestly, I haven't seen mine in months. I have no idea where it's at.
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>>344222514

Fuck off Bravely Default shitposter.
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>>344214408
Since the PS4 came out my opinion of the vita has gone up. I think it's retarded that digital buys aren't carried over to PS4 over PSN and I'm glad the vita can pull a good chunk of them.
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>>344222852
I own a physical copy of the game, retard. It's seriously pretty shit.
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It failed in sales, but it much more enjoyable handheld then the 3DS.

My 3DS keep collecting dust.
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>>344214408
No Pokeymanz for my little princess/rockstar
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>>344222967
Care to say why you think the game is shit, what would you want better?
Perhaps you could recommend some good RPG that isn't pretty shit?
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>>344222373
don't think you understand how this "discussion" thing works.
You're the one who's supposed to defend the Vita and prove the 3DS shit.
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>>344222925
mad?
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>>344222532
Not so sure about that, Anon-kun.

The PSP's stock didn't really go up until GTA came out on it. You gotta remember, a modern GTA that you could take anywhere with you was a pretty big deal at the time.
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>>344215143
This. Its still going strong, hence why a lot of niche Japanese third party devs keep making games for it
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>>344222350
>no CFW
Couldn't this change though? All we need is a breakthrough and I doubt Sony would devote any resources to combating it
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REMINDER

>PS3 and Vita outlive the fucking Wii-U
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>>344222909
Dont do that man, that's kinda brutal. At least they got bravely censored? that low budget overrated rpg?
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>>344222943
By the time I had Vita for over a year I had around 10+ games with few from PS+
I have PS4 for a year now and only have 4 games, doesn't feel that great compared to Vita plus it has shitty forced subscription to play online.
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>>344214408
Anything it can do smartphones can do better.
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>>344222784
>5 on 3DS
Lol
It keeps getting funnier.
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PSP is really overrated, I honestly prefer the Vita library.
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>>344223167
>Pretending to reply as me to stir shit up
Thanks for proving me right, you literally fight among yourselves.
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Don't want to buy a Vita? Just buy a PS TV for like $30
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>>344223160
The whole VN structure bored me after a while, the game's pacing is really too fucking slow, the characters are awful, the story is pretty close to being bad and the combat and dungeon design are all pretty shit. I know you'll discard this post because
>just saying shit without explaining why
But anyone with half a brain would easily be able to recognize exactly what's so bad about P4G, whose only worthwhile additions are more waifu pandering events, slutty costumes and the worst fucking character in the whole franchise.

>Perhaps you could recommend some good RPG that isn't pretty shit?
I really wouldn't recommend any Vita RPG openly, since the best ones are more of an acquired taste that not many retards will "get".
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>>344223437

Please don't post a image from neo-fire emblem.

It's hard to take anyone seriously when you know they like that trash.
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>>344223427
Play real games using its standalone hardware?
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I'll just leave this here.


implying every single Vita thread isn't just butthurt Wii-U owners. Disappointed Vita owners expecting western games got over it years ago and are now shitting up PS4/PC threads
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>>344223542
Meh, that thing's just sitting on my desk while the Vita itself is getting some decent action.
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It failed because the oversea support is ass.
While I don't now how much it contributed, exclusive memory cards that cost about 40 dollars for fucking 16 GB is jewish as fuck.
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>>344222784
>Only Sony can do selective sales while other company clearly never do

Eshop does have sales mate.
About as often as the good Sony ones.

They also do very good deals sometimes.
When MK8 came out you got a free $60 of your choice with it.

Why does everyone here pretend one company is the only good?
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>>344222909
>>344223339
>dissing the full remake of DQVII while praising Minecraft lite
Sure is salt here.
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>>344222784
how the fuck a sony fanboy can be this delusional
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>>344223167
>>344223463
samefag
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>>344223594
Not him but Conquest is easily in the top 3 of the franchise.
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>>344223640
>The reason these threads are bad are because of sales for a underselling handheld with the competitors handheld performing much higher

>>344223942
You are trying really hard aren't you?
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>>344223762
>Eshop does have sales mate.
Not him, but eshop sales are awful. AWFUL.

Discounts are pathetic and primarily for very subpar no name titles.
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>>344223441
You're right, I prefer Persona 2 and Soul Hackers but you could say many bad things about any game in the series.
No need to be shy, you can recommend some RPG games that only people with acquired taste will get.
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>>344223612
AAA games are on smartphones too now, it is the PC of mobile gaming.
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>>344223970

Conquest was the worst JRPG I played in years.

>Shit characters
>Shit story
>Shit localization
>inb4MUHGAMEPLAYfags
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>>344223321
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>>344223762
Is that in Europe? If so, disregarded.

US has shit sales on eshop.
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>>344224034
That was my point.
The SN is likewise, I had the Vita for 4 months until they actually did a good sale not long ago.

Sales are always pick and choice and luck of the draw.
It sucks at the end of the day.
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>>344224170
Nothing with touch controls has been anywhere near as good as the console and handheld versions of those games.
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>>344224018

It's the inherent knowledge that Nintendo are fucked within 2-3 gens max.

That Sony's handheld rightfully deserves to fail yet it's unfair that Wii-U is not selling and the NX will totally save the company guys!
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>>344224256
psn sales in general, every week, are better than eshop sales.

The best eshop sales are closer to middling psn sales.
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>>344223594
And I'm supposed to take seriously one that claims that the 3DS has no more than 5 good games?
While praising the Vita?
Kek
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>>344224269
If you don't like touch controls then just buy a controller of your choice, big deal.
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>>344224187
>gamplay isn't the most important aspect in a video game
You shouldn't even be associating FE with story in the first place.
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>>344224241
Yep.

Oops.
Forgot you guys have NoA.
You poor sods.

Then again most American divisions are never that good.
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>>344224484
This is why I asked

>Play real games using its standalone hardware?


It's not better if you need to supplement its failings with extra hardware to play fewer quality titles.
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>>344223640

The thing about the vita is even if it doesn't sell well, it's still a lot cheaper to develop games for so in the long run it was bound to outsell and outlive it a failed console. The life cycle of PS products are very different to Nintendo products though, what I think many 3DS fans don't fully realize is that the Vita is just approaching it's mid cycle now, in fact it hasn't even reached it yet.

Over the years it will continue to build it's library, I mean sure it doesn't have big titles like Monster Hunter but it doesn't need to, plenty of great games will continue to get released on the system anyway and that's the best thing for anyone who loves handheld gaming could ever want. It's really no where near or even remotely bad as people make it out to be, it gets a new game announced and released almost every month
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>>344224187
Ugh, gameplay, I fucking hate that.
I know right?
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>>344224414
>That Sony's handheld rightfully deserves to fail yet it's unfair that Wii-U is not selling
I never said that though.

Both are awfully made and deserve the backlash but I own both and love both.
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>>344224425

That was a different anon.

This is the 5 games guy.

Sell me 5 games on 3DS that aren't 1st party.

Assume I have the usual jrpg lean.
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>>344224492

If it has a unlikeable cast and shit story I can't stomach to play it.

Blame IS and NoA.
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>>344224571
Just because you don't like touch controls doesn't mean that its a failure. It's the most popular mobile gaming platform in the world and that won't change any time soon.
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>>344224519
At least Ninty's stuff is now pirateable, so there's that.
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>>344224187
>Gameplay isn't important
Some of the posts in this thread is clear bait but thats full retard anon
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>>344217850
What's your favorite handheld?
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>>344223701
I don't understand people like you who play endless amounts of trash games just for the sake of having a larger vita library

Coming from a vita owner btw, having more than 15 vita games means you're delving into total crap
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>>344224743
Can't you skip it?
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>>344224726
>Both are awfully made

The wiiU was kind of poorly made with the touchpad gimmick and overly expensive considering the internals but the vita still holds up and is a pretty solid piece of tech whichever way you look at it. We can't ignore the fact that it actually had proper dual thumb sticks, something Nitty decided to neglect on their handheld despite the 3DS still being a great handheld in terms of its software library
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>>344224948
>Failure

I didn't say it was a failure. It's just not better than playing on hardware meant for gaming that has all of the features necessary to do more than clumsy touch based options.

Your claim was that it was better at everything. You were wrong. Sorry.
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>>344224965
>Piracy actually boost sales too
>Buy the games which are actually good and don't for the others

I forget why people actually say it's damaging
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>>344224970

Gameplay is important.

However if the characters and story are so awful I can't go further, why play it?

like fates has the most unlikable JRPG cast ever.
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>>344225130

Touche.

Maybe I'll play it again, I'll have to turn down the volume for the characters though.

Even the voice acting suck ass in fates.
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>>344225173
Only because you set up an arbitrary rule that smartphone owners could bend at will.
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>>344220172
You forgot to mention that the vita is a handheld and much cheaper, so obviously it's going to have inflated sales. You fucking retard.
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>>344214408
Because sony realized too late that pandering to animu loving manchildren like myself with endless streams of copypaste waifu games was the only way they were making money off it.

All they had to do was say fuck the normals and slap moe moe everywhere and they would have had a success from the start
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>>344225247
But the characters in Conquest are good.
Story is still ass but the characters are good.
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>>344225613

No, there not a single likable character in fates.

Not a fucking single one.
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>>344225159
Wii U is a marvel at optimising it's own software while the Vita has a built in function and encryption to block 3rd party sds.

I'm not disagreeing with you but both are good and bad.
I wonder why there's barely anyone here who can't just be willing to accept both sides while looking at the short comings of both to get a complete picture.
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>>344225019
PSP
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>>344225613

>Fate characters
>Good

KEK
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>>344224734
Not him but here are some 3rd Party series on 3DS.

Etrian Odyssey
Ace Attorney
Professor Layton
Zero Escape (admittedly also on Vita)
SMT
Monster Hunter
Kingdom Hearts

Etc, etc. Either way, this console war stuff is lame. Both systems are good.
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>>344225019
*hacked psp, I should say
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>>344225567
Or, y'know, people didn't want to play bad games or pay full-retail price for games they played years ago.

PSP actually had a pretty decent library of exclusives.
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>>344225861
Finally someone who tries both.
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>>344216704
for most of its lifespan the ds was far easier to hack than the psp.
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Nothing could have saved Fates.

Not even the waifu pandering, NoA censored it and the english dub of the female cast was so awful (Treehouse think waifus are problematic) with no dual audio.

Fate goes right into trash.
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>>344225247
It's an SRPG, and it's pretty standard as far as most SRPG cast's go, IF they even fucking exist.

Conquest is probably one of the more challenging entries in the series as well.
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>>344225713
>>344225838
That's your opinion and I think it's ok that you have it.
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>>344225106
Because I'm not the only one in the household that has a Vita? Most of the JRPG and Rhythm games are mine.

I'll do what I do, you do you.
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>>344223970
It's gameplay is decent, but everything else about it is a fucking disgrace.
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Typical Sony Story:
>great console
>no games
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>>344224596
It's pretty sad to see vita fans delude themselves with shit like this when the 3DS has already peaked and gotten the best handheld games this generation while they're content with weeb mediocre garbage saying b-b-b-b-but one day it'll get some r-r-real games!
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>>344226621
Story is pretty pants-on-head retarded, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone say that they play FE for the story.

This IS the same franchise where you have to slog through the Lynn campaign, Scrubs brigade, etc.
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>>344226812

>3DS
>Doesn't have mediocre weeb garbage

phew lad
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>>344214408

>Too expensive for a handheld at that point in time.
>Tried to do way too much (basically a smartphone with no phone)
>Too many games restricted to nip-land
>The games we did have, for the most part, sucked ass.
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>>344225861

KH isn't a exclusive.
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>>344226186

FAN TRANSLATION FINISHED WHEN BROS
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>>344226852
FE 7 Lyn story is only a 1/3 of a game and it's still better than the entirety of conquest and it's

ONIIII CHAN I LOVE YOU AND ITS OK BECAUSE WE AREN'T REALLY RELATED bullshit

FE10 dawn brigade sucked but it's still only a portion of a game that lets you kill god with Ike

The characters, story, setting, and art style are an awful diarrhea of modern anime tropes and I hate it. This is even before the MEMESMEMESMEMES localization.

I fucking shudder to think what FE9 would look like if it got translated today
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>>344227123
I think he's talking about the one on 3DS only.
Forget what it's called but there was one.
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>>344219904

>If it's obscure that means the games are shit because they're obviously not good enough to be famous.

By this logic, every famous person in the world is objectively a better person than unknowns like you and me.
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>>344227414

Dream Drop Distance isn't exclusive anymore.

HD version is coming out this winter for the PS4.
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>>344227407
I don't think I've seen a response less devoid of any sort of intelligence all day. I can't believe that someone is so bent on hating modern FE games that they actually defend Lyn's campaign or the Dawn Brigade.
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>>344227657
Oh that's news to me.
Then again I never owned it.
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>>344214408
Not enough boats.
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>>344226110
At least the Vita is a good excuse to not buy a PS4, all the weeb trash from that piece of shit gets ported to the thing.
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>>344221432
I own most of the vita's library.

this is my recommended list off of games I'ave actually played

haven't played every vita game yet, so it can change
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>>344230367
Not him but it fails at that because most of the ports run like asscheeks.
See Gundam Breakers 3 or Gundam Extreme Vs.
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>>344230564
But the newer Gundam games are trash anyways.

I was talking more about shit like the Atelier games.
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why dont sony turn the ps vita into a phone?

same shape, just a mic and speaker on either end and you got a phone
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>>344230828
>MFW there will never be an Xperia Play 2 because the first one failed so hard

Shame, I loved mine.
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I don't buy one because:
>no western games (i reall don't like weebshit) >it isn't a phone (i would kill for a phone with quality games, why you had to flop N-Gage?).
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>>344232443

Why it failed?. Aside from bad marketing, i didn't knew that existed.
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I love my vita!
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>>344232791
It was overpriced for the shit hardware it had on release.

I didn't mind though, the thing was heaven for portable emulation. Too bad mine died.
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>>344232791
Poor hardware and low phone storage space, it was the ultimate emulation machine, able to emulate things even up to Dreamcast at full 60+ FPS with audio, but any REAL games it had problems playing, that and the fact the phone only had like 512MB of internal storage, even if you put apps on the SD card they still take up a little bit of the phone's storage, so when Android rolled out new updates and the phone couldn't update due to extreme lack of space, it fell behind and stopped being able to run things like Skype and even the Google Play store without heavy modding of the phone itself.
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>>344232867
You're waifi am lurvly.
>>
2016 vita games we got so far and what's coming out later:

MegaTagmension Blanc + Neptune VS Zombies
Neptunia vs Sega Hard Girls
Atelier Escha and Logy Plus
God Eater: Resurrection
God Eater 2: Rage Burst
Shantae: Half-Genie Hero
Mighty No 9
Grand Kingdom
World of Final Fantasy
Digimon Cyber Sleuth
Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir
Gal Gun Double Peace
Attack on Titan
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim
Toukiden 2
Danganronpa V3
Mobile Suit Gundam: Extreme VS Force
Moero Crystal (asain version has english)
Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 (asain version has english)
One Piece: Burning Blood
Muv-Luv
Salt and Sanctuary
Trillion: God of Destruction
Stranger of Sword City
Samurai Warriors 4: Empires
Senran Kagura: Estival Versus
Aegis of Earth: Protonovus Assault
Root Letter
Root Double- Before Crime * After Days
Shiren The Wanderer: The Tower of Fortune and the Dice of Fate
Psycho-Pass: Mandatory Happiness
Criminal censored Girls 2
Yomawari: Night Alone
Croixieur Sigma
Gundam Breaker 3 (asain version has english)
Zero Time Dilemma
Sword Art Online: Hollow Realization
Atelier Sophie
SD Gundam G Generation Genesis (asain version has english)
Hatsune Miku: Project Diva X
Skullgirls 2nd Encore
Ray Gigant
Trails of Cold Steel 2
MeiQ: Labyrinth Of Death
Mystery Chronicle: One Way Heroics
Dragon Quest Builders
Fate/Extella
Super Robot Wars V (asain version has english)
Super Robot Wars OG: The Moon Dwellers (asain version has english)
The Asterisk War
Steins;Gate 0
Summon Night 6
Touhou Genso Wanderer
Fault Milestone One
Rabi-Ribi
Caligula
Adventures of Mana
Hakuouki: Sweet School Life
Tokyo Xanadu
Bad Apple Wars
Collar X Malice
Period Cube: Torikago no Amadeus
999: Nine Hours Nine Persons
Tokyo Twilight Ghost Hunters: Daybreak Special Gigs World Tour
World End Economica

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>>344233113
Thanks I guess.
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>>344233205
all of those games are shit lol
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>99% Anime indie games

Yeah...real great...
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I don't know if you'd really call it spectacular.

Spectacular is something that destroys a company or warrants huge fucking rebranding, like Sega dying, or Microsoft essentially soft relaunching Xbones.

Spectacular is something like every Kickstarter project that tripped out of the starting gate.

Vita was just a thing that couldn't weather the new portable/handheld gaming market as well as the 3DS, had some weird advertising campaigns, then settled into its niche and was left in the corner to its devices for the rest of its existence.
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It's library can only appeal to a niche demographic and it was overpriced.
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