>People honestly want to nerf this beauty
Explain yourselves. She's PERFECT
>>344213435
Those people do not posses a heart of gold. They're villainous in nature
>Nerf Mercy
Why? She seems pretty well balanced. All the supports but Zen do really.
Sure her ult charges quickly but that's because your dumbass team keeps running into the Solder/Pharrah/Bastion she's boosting one by one.
>>344213435
>Those hips and thighs
Her pistol sucks dick, unless the flanker is braindead retarded you won't be able to get enough headshots on them
give me a sword instead
>>344213435
>>344215128
>her pistol sucks
Are you fucking high?
>>344215128
Her pistol poops on kids
Ult is too fast, you can use it and get it back in less than a minute if the other team is fucking yours hard enough
It pretty much punishes teams for doing too well and causes her to get her ult faster
>>344217514
If Mercy's ult gets nerfed Lucio needs to get nerfed. It's literally all she has over him and if they nerf it too much there will be literally zero reason to ever pick Mercy.
>>344217514
This argument only works if your team doesn't fucking target the mercy.
BIG FAT SWISS TATS
You can't just nerf Mercy. It will completely fuck her up.
If you tone down her ult then she needs a boost in other areas be it speed or health or pistol damage
>>344213852
because "you didnt kill mercy first" is a bullshit reason to have your 5 man ult nullified AFTER the fact. at least lucio and zen have to see it coming and ult in time to block/heal the damage, but a window licking mercy can just sit in the corner and fix it all
>>344217737
Mercy without her ult vs Lucio with Ult is a much better defensive healer than he is
>>344217903
?
>>344217514
This
Ult is too much of a gamechanger to be that easy to use
I've been in both sides of the coin, winning and losing just because a Mercy has an Ult ready for whatever triple kill or higher the opponents manage to do with their own hard-earned ults
>>344218038
Exactly, and that's the only time she's better than him. Lucio is far too versitile a Healer compared to Mercy and Zenyatta. Mercy and Zeyatta with Ult are the only time they are objectively better than Lucio.
37 YEARS OLD
How about if mercy ult was Channeled?
Instant rez on nearest person, 0.5 second rez a nearby dead ally. make up for the nerf if needed by allowing her to channel as long as she wants to, rezzing allies until she is found and interrupted
>>344213852
Mercy's ult shouldn't charge so fast. If you have a Roadhog who's actually soaking damage like he's suppose to and you constantly heal him, you can have your ult up in less than 30 seconds.
>>344217961
Don't ult until she's dead, silly. It's part of the whole "teamwork" thing.
![maxresdefault[3].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/V7OxZnw.jpg "maxresdefault[3].jpg")
>>344217903
FLAT FLAT MAT TATS
Why do people want to nerf everything at all? They're ruining the fun. I'd rather every character be so overpowered that crazy shit happens than them all be underpowered making the whole game a lazefest.
I don't want her nerfed per se, but I do want it so that Zenyatta or Symmetra are viable as a team's primary support.
Mercy and Lucio are too good at supporting without hardly trying.
They just need to make other viable supports, not nerf her or lucio
>>344218180
Also, Torb's ult has the same problem
Specially because it completely fixes any damage the turret has suffered before you use it
>>344218526
>reinhardt shield supposed to get shot
>winston shield supposed to get shot
>zaria shield supposed to get shot
>d'va shield supposed to get shot
>roadhog supposed to get shot
ONE OF THESE THINGS IS NOT LIKE THE OTHERS
>>344218683
Sombra is supposed to be a SNIPER support.
Mercy ult charge time reduced or Mercy's ult has a small cast animation and if she dies during it the ult is completely wasted, say .5 seconds after her voice line finishes and everyone is revived
>>344217961
>>344218526
You seem to be implying the enemy team NEVER tries to hunt you down while you're healing everyone in sight. Either you got into matches full of retards who can't even pronounce their heroes' names or you're just assmad that you lose to good Mercys with map awareness.
>>344218653
This is the problem with these characters. They have a massive impact on the game with 0 skill required. My friends all rush to support first because they all fucking suck at FPS and we usually end up with only 1 actual damage dealer(me). If Lucio or Mercy were harder to play then these fucks wouldn't rely on them like a crutch.
>>344218610
but getting a good ult already requires precise timing depending on enemy position.
dont you think that (in competitive, especially) being able to land an ult like Death Blossom on 5 targets is hard enough without having to also pick off mercy first?
my other post about her channeling her ult means it still CAN be a game changer, but you have to be careful with it just like how you have to be careful with death blossom
honestly nothing needs to be changed with her specifically. the amount of time the orb representing a dead body stays active for her rez needs to be shortened, that's all. mercy should need to stay alive and hidden while her team dies so she can pop out and revive right then. there is literally nothing you can do except send someone to spawn camp if you do what you're actually supposed to do, and kill mercy first, then kill her team, and she happens to respawn and pop out in time to rez most or all of them again. it happens time and time again and it's simply punishing players who actually do the proper thing and kill the support first. just make the bodies unable to rez faster and she would be completely fixed.
>>344219061
>flanking implies diving the enemy team with little to no support
>try to kill the mercy smack dab in the middle of the enemy team
>implying you wont get fucked up by her 5 team mates before you can catch her
>implying solo queue quick match makes you an authority
>>344218616
> posting the worst skin
what the hell is wrong with man?
>>344219061
of course they are, and of course we do hunt mercy, but thats only because her ult is so broken and so easy to use.
im not saying that ignoring mercy should go un-punished, but that punish shouldnt be so easy for mercy to do
After they nerfed my McCree into the ground, I became willing to support any other nerf to sap other people of their fun as well.
What goes around, comes around, kids.
>>344217514
Dumping damage into an enemy team and not actually killing people while also ignoring their Mercy isn't "doing too well"
>>344218653
Exactly this, in a way. Mercy is completely fine, the real issue is that we only have 2 actually viable healers.
Symmetra will never be a viable solo support because she is not a healer, nor will she ever be since that's not what she's designed to do. She's very good in various situations of Defense anyway. Maybe that new sniper healer will be solid enough to compete with Mercy and Lucio.
her ult is op
standard tactic is to hide and let your retard teammates die, then you somehow can swoop in by targetting their dead bodies and press q to win the game.
It's the only Q in the game you cannot deny or play around, even if you kill her first she is just gonna respawn with the ult ready to go again.
She should not be able to target dead teammates for flying to and I think the ult should have a very quick channel time so you have a chance to waste her ult charge.
>>344219709
all they need to do is make that stun last a bit longer and he's perfect. it's too easy for the squishies he's supposed to be killing to get away with their various panic buttons. and mei and reaper have zero hard counters anymore.
>>344219709
McCree is still good if you can aim
like, the point of the hero
flashbang was intended to set up a left click headshot, not a fan
>>344219852
>flashbang was intended to set up a left click headshot, not a fan
no man. I mean, that's basically the only way to use it now, but you know that's not what it was for originally.
>>344219709
Why so salty
>>344219360
please 80% of these mouth breathers don't know how to peel off a band aid do you honestly think they have the brainpower to protect the support?
>>344213435
It's just too easy to get a huge res without being anywhere near the team. Her ult shouldn't go through walls, and her shift should have reduced range on dead bodies. That's pretty much all she needs touched. Her ult should be good, but it shouldn't be braindead easy to use.
DON'T
SEXUALIZE
MERCY
>>344219709
McCree is still good and can perform his role perfectly fine, which is countering fast little shits and low-health characters.
>>344219286
I've had plenty of people die in the time it takes me to respawn and get back to battle. I don't know how this is actually an issue for people.
>>344220105
>nipples poking through
she's fucking doing it herself
>>344219360
>>344219567
Second point:
Your team has ults as well yes? Why not kill Mercy while she's reviving her team then dump your ults on the rest? Unless her entire team died behind a faraway corner where she can safely rez, it shouldn't be too difficult to counter with sharpshooters, hook her with Roadhog etc.
>>344219852
make up all the excuses you want. He's hardly used anymore, even among good players. There's classes with better payoffs without having to land a headshot perfectly every time just to stay alive.
>>344220009
Did you not read the whole post?
>tfw people don't like you anymore
>>344219968
im going by the in-game tips here. they suggest using flashbang to give you time to line up a headshot with your peacekeeper
>you will never marry and impregnate Mercy
Why live?
>>344219852
McCree is supposed to be a Genji/Tracer killer right?
You can do more damage reliably and quicker by flashbanging then lining up a single headshot than you can by using flash then fan the hammer. You need to hit 4 of the hammer shots to do more damage than the flash and headshot, and most of the time it's RNG.
Fan the hammer is so god damn useless now, the only time I use it is if I am peeking a corner and there is a winston or reinhardt I can unload on.
>>344220206
if the mercy is killed and then the rest of the team is well grouped and making a good fight of it, they usually don't start dying until around the time mercy spawns again. on certain maps, at certain points, the walk back to the point is so short she easily makes it back in time for triple rez or more. it happens all the time, man.
Mercy is cute! CUTE!
>>344219709
>>344219968
fan the hammer still does 240 with body shots. Fuck off.
>>344218958
Sombra literally confirmed for having long range "heal bullets".
>>344220564
>he thinks all of those will hit
>>344213435
>people honestly need to git gud
Blizz isn't going to nerf her so it doesn't matter what people want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4chOwxi4E8
>>344219740
this, Symmetra is fucking useless.
>>344220695
you're damn near point blank range you shitter
>>344220693
uhhhhh thicccerrrrrr
>>344220398
in the .7 seconds you have you'd better have some insanely fast reaction time to line up even one headshot, let alone the headshot and then body shot or more to kill anything other than tracer and zenyatta with the original stun headshot combo. and just like the new problem with his right click not killing enough so many characters have a getaway option or something and so unless you magically can land two headshots in less than .7 seconds (hint, you can't) things are still not going to work out.
>>344217514
So how is that an issue? Mercy's ult charges faster if your team sucks, it helps teams doing poorly get a second chance to get back in there. It stops a better team from continuously shitting on the other team, it gives them a chance to fight back.
Unless you literally can't get kills without your ultimate, what's the problem?
>>344220769
all I know is I've both killed way less, and died way less with mccree since the nerf. they messed up, plain and simple. it's not that he's a bad hero, it's just like the other anon said. there's literally no reason to play him unless you have ungodly headshot aim in any situation, and then why not just play mei? she's infinitely better if that's what you're going for.
There should not be a "team res" ult in the game.
Just how there should not be a team wallhack in the game.
I don't know why I even care, I don't play this garbage anymore.
>>344220768
She's not useless, she's very, very good when defending the 1st point on a few maps, but she's very situational.
>>344217961
Then use your fucking ult on Mercy.
>>344220958
pretty much any other game I can think of with resurrection doesn't restore you to 100% hp either
>>344221029
Exactly, first point and most players can't play her for shit, she has a low pick rate for a reason.
Also her shield skill is fucking stupid and so throwaway.
>>344220769
FTM is RNG. You won't always be literally touching the person, which you need to be to get every hit w/ FTM. You do not have time to get closer to hit them w/ every FTM bullet because your stun lasts .1 of a second. Your stun lasts less than FTM even takes to fully go off, most enemies will be able to use their escapes.
Most people in this thread even agree FTM is useless. The new argument you're meant to be having is "hurr then just make 100% of your shots headshots ezpz"
>>344221029
this. play her on the first point of defense maps, even payload maps, then switch if they break through at all. that's it. unless the other team is really squishy AND super bad at killing you when you flank them, but in that case they almost certainly didn't make it past the first point anyway.
>>344221145
Except she can just ult through walls, or just shift to their bodies while being in safety the entire time and nothing bar a perfectly aimed Widow/Hanzo headshot is gonna stop her from getting her Q off in time.
>>344218767
Roadhog IS supposed to get shot.
He has too much hp and a ridiculous self-heal
He's a tank, even if a selfish one
>>344220670
>>344218958
I always thought it would be like Val from Evolve. She's a healer, but she carries a sniper rifle. It's not for head shots, it's armor piercing bullets that reduces defence of monsters. Healing bullets is fine too, reminds me of God Eater.
>>344221029
muh main mentality too strong for that way of thinking, anon.
>>344220774
>>344221204
i've lived through a lot of situations cause of the extra 25 hp, but I do think it is a pretty weak skill compared to other classes.
>>344219246
> in competitive
Stopped reading there.
Competitive Overwatch is a joke. 20 tick rate. How is that even competitve? The skill ceiling on the game is so incredibly low even before you factor that in, that it's more up to chance than anything else. All that mode has done is made my quick play matches more fun by removing shitters who think wins are because of them.
They're not. It's almost always chance.
Stillborn is literally more competitive than Overwatch will ever be.
>>344220775
i know. flashbang wasnt supposed to be instant death from full hp. thats why fan was nerfed.
you're thinking in the pre-nerf world where getting hit by flashbang was a death sentence... and it sounds like you're having a hard time adapting to the change
the only stun-kill combo left in the game is roadhog, and you have to aim a hook and your scrapgun (which is harder than it seems with the weirdness of pull mechanics), and roadhog is kind of a big potato while his hook is on cd
>>344219246
Then it's not worth using your ult if Mercy is alive, it's that simple.
And plenty of character's ults can be cancelled or countered with another ult.
>>344221437
oh no, I don't mind playing other heroes, so it doesn't bother me at all. however, mccree is absolutely supposed to kill anything with 200hp or less that he stuns, and now he has an insanely hard time doing that for all but the very best of players, and even they would be better suited playing soldier 76 at this point.
>>344217961
thatt doesn't only apply to mercy lmao. Lucio and Zen can ult to cockblock another 5 man ults too, that's the whole point of supports, if they stay alive they are massively good, if they die first then the team with the support alive usually does much better, that's how the game works buddy.
>>344221256
The way you describe it makes it sound like you'd rather be hit than missed, which is really really not how you play roadhog.
Roadhog is supposed to be shot AT, but nobody except Zaria shielded players are actually supposed to be hit
>>344221437
It's not that players are having a bad time adapting to change, it's that McCree is having a bad time adapting. He is not worth playing anymore. There are heroes that do as much, if not more, with 1/2 the effort required.
Why do people care if her ult raises everyone in a team fight?
You just have to fucking kill her first and her ult is useless.
Everyone elses ult, who isn't a support, basically can single handedly kill the entire enemy team anyway, that's way more busted then a revive who she has to be almost touching to pull off.
Can we stop shilling Overmeme here, guys?
>>344221204
Yes, the reason is exactly what I said, she's very good at defending certain points, but even in the same round if you lose that point you're better off switching. Of course a hero that's only good in some very specific situations is going to be picked less than heroes that work well on pretty much every map.
Her shield is pretty throwaway though, I agree. It doesn't feel like it does much at all, I guess it can save Tracer and Zen from getting 1-shot by a boosted Pharah or a boosted Hanzo/Widow body shot, but that's about it really. If they're unwilling to give her at least a 50HP shield they should just scrap it and find a different ability for her, it's not like the shield is in any way essential or useful for her actual functionality.
>>344221225
Yeah, that's how it goes with Symmetra.
The only people who want to nerf Mercy are those who only get "Push Q to win" kills and are upset they can't push Q a second time.
>trying to nerf a healer
How salty can you be, if anything she needs a buff.
>>344221424
>Stopped reading there
couldnt you have gone one word further, "especially", which implies that my comment applied to quick play and brawl as well?
yes 20 tick is bullshit, and no, the only luck is matchmaking. otherwise theres basically no rng in the game at all except for a couple tiebreakers
but if you tie you dont deserve a win anyway
>>344221870
We're actually talking about video games on /v/
fuck off
>>344217961
you're an actual retard.
>>344221824
i disagree, a mccree who hits 6/6 primary fire is far more oppressive at medium range than a soldier 76, and trading the heal for a stun seems fair enough
Head established is the only thing that needs to be nerfed
also fuck off waifu shitters
>>344221983
yeah she needs a way of killing people more effectively or an escape without teammates because when your team is useless its impossible to play her :/
>>344222140
do you disagree with what i said or do you just want to fight me?
>>344217961
If Mercy can sit in the corner and fix it your team sucks and you deserve to lose. Why isn't your own Mercy sitting in the corner, or why isn't your Lucio pressing Q to stop your own team from getting killed in the first place?
>>344222117
>falling for Blizzdrone viral campaigns this hard
>>344222354
he wants to fight you, do it anon and beat him up
>>344221945
What if you could shield her turrets too then? 25 shields on a 1HP turret isn't really a lot, but it might be useful in some situations. Or since she's all about turrets anyway, make it an ability related to turrets.
Maybe it gives them a minor boost
Maybe give her a second turret that doesn't attack but pings when it sees someone
Give turrets HP and her other ability is to heal them
How to fix the support role:
>Symmetra's shields replaced with a dispenser that provides armor to allies and regens health when nearby (slower than biotic field)
>teleporter ult charges faster
>Zenyatta can fire two orbs at a time: either 2 discords, 1 discord/1 harmony, or 2 harmony orbs
>transdendence ult also debuffs enemies in the area
>resurrection ult charges slower
>Lucio auras' effectiveness tied to remaining mobile/wall-riding (50% current effectiveness standing still, 100% after running for 10 secs or wall-riding for 3 seconds)
>>344221983
>be healing Boulevard Boar
>stop to heal someone else
>back to Street pig
>heal another person to full
>finally top Avenue Swine up
>All without him being shot once since I started healing his fat ass
I can agree with that
>>344222441
can zenyatta not have discord and harmony out at the same time?
>>344222441
an ability similar to biotic field would be cool, but a dispenser that does that AND gives armor? absolutely not.
>>344222549
He can
>>344222549
He can. What I'm saying is let him discord two enemies or heal two allies. Currently he's only really good at supporting one person and not the whole team.
>>344222360
>why isnt your own mercy sitting in the corner
she is, and it's stupid. the way overwatch team fights go is: one team ults and wipes the other, then mercy rez. then counter-ult and wipe. then mercy rez. THEN they actually have a fight.
having a mercy hiding somewhere means you have to wait to use ults to actually take an objective, nobody else's ult in the game can do that single handedly.
>>344222310
I'd much rather her just be a pure focused healer instead of a healer / damage hyrid like Lucio and Zen.
The only thing I'd change is make it so the damage buff gave a slow heal added to it too, so I'd use it more often.
>>344222746
Well yeah, but Mercy is a one at a time healer too.
Personally I think the only buff Zenyatta needs is a faster movement speed. It'd make him a bit harder to OHKO with a sniper shot and makes escaping with him slightly easier. Plus since he has the lowest HP with no escape/movement ability he's probably going to die a lot so a faster movement speed puts him on the field more quickly.
>>344222878
I'd let her guardian angel send her flying upwards if no one is around so she can escape shithead tracers that do nothing but kill the healer to make your life miserable.
>>344222242
You won't headshot 6/6 (body do shit). A 76 will kill you faster at range if both have the same accuracy due to his rate of fire.
You could argue smaller points until it becomes impossible to prove who's right, but at the end of the day, McCree is hardly played. Maybe the community needs to learn how to play McCree properly, maybe he just fucking sucks. Can't 100% prove it either way.
>>344222441
teleporter is pretty game changing while it's up, i dont think it needs a faster charge time.
i kind of like the dispenser idea, but remember that teleporting allies is really the reason you have symmetra at all. without a nerf to teleporter first, making her more relevent outside of her teleport is dangerous and risks making her even more oppressive while shutting down a first capture point
>>344223001
>Mercy is a one at a time healer
Her healing stream is fast enough that you can keep your team topped off as long as they don't split up.
You can't heal that fast with a single harmony orb.
>>344223294
see
>>344222449
this is true for anyone with less than 300 hp. Healing the tankier characters from "critical" is such a huge investment that everyone else has to be put on the backburner
>>344222821
That's a purely theoretical (i.e. imagined) scenario that doesn't actually happen for a wide variety of factors in the actual game, such as assassin characters, positioning, timing, target prioritization and people not playing like braindead retards after a certain point.
The game is balanced around actual shit that happens while you play, not hypothetical scenarios imagined to make a character seem as OP as possible.
Mercy was made for Medic players that have terrible positioning despite being the second fastest class in TF2.
Also her ult is completely braindead and much harder to counter than an Uber.
>>344223194
Making her relevant outside teleporter is an absolute must. It's as effective as res at best, but it's also on a much longer cooldown on a hero without the healing capacity of Mercy.
If you trade a Mercy for a Symmetra you lose because Mercy is just better at supporting.
>>344223692
>Comparing a game where character's don't have super powers like teleporting, short time invincibility and aimbot to a game where they do.
wew lad.
>>344223170
6/6 peacekeeper with all bodyshot will do at least 210 damage in 2.5 seconds (full ammo used), increasing if he is nearer up to 420 damage.
25/25 pulse rifle all bodyshot will do at least 125 damage in 2.5 seconds (using all ammo), increasing to 425 depending on range
mccree primary does nearly as much close range dps as soldier, but far more as damage falloff occurs. he also gets an instant reload to account for poor accuracy or larger hp targets
>>344219390
FOR A PRICE
>>344223692
>Right click the soldier/demo/hoovy
>not braindead
wew lad. Medic is still fun as fuck though
>>344223667
this shit happens all the time when i play comp, team average is 59-60. it's pick mercy and push, otherwise that happens
>>344223872
Do you have even the smallest idea what an Ubercharge is or are you meming all over me
>kill mercy first during a push
>start cleaning up her team
>10s later she flies out of spawn with an epic Q press
>their full team now rapes the 3-4 of us left
>LE KILL MERCY FIRST!!! fags still exist
kill yourselves
>>344224191
You can have Mercy too you know?
>>344223294
I think you're misunderstanding what Zenyatta's role is. He heals, sure, but he's not a healer in the same way that Mercy and Lucio are healers. In fact he's more useful for his discord orb than his harmony orb, since it will shred just about anyone. Letting him have two of each orb would be somewhat unfair, unless you reduce the effectiveness of them.
Mercy is a one at a time healer. Sure, she could heal everyone if they're all grouped up but there isn't a lot of time for that. Being grouped up is too risky and most people are going to be doing their own thing anyway. She can fight as well, but then it means she can't heal.
Lucio is a team healer and he can boost his healing aura to make it rival Mercy's for a while too. He can also fight while healing, so it's better to think of him as a combat medic. Not your traditional healer, since he can support himself and fight to a degree.
Zenyatta has a heal with the best range, but it heals somewhat slowly and you need line of sight. It's a one person heal like Mercy's, but you don't need to babysit quite as much. It's more like a HoT for more sustain instead of a full heal like the other two. Zenyatta's discord orb is amazing though. The best thing to do is to put a harmony orb on someone like Roadhog and a discord orb on an enemy and let Roadhog take care of it. Gives him a bit more sustain, lets him kill a lot more faster. Zenyatta is a healer in the same way Soldier is, in that he has a heal skill without being an actual healer.
>>344220337
Tracer 4 life
>>344224282
countering mercy with mercy is the definition of imbalanced
>>344224282
>counter this broken tactic by using the same lol
Whichever spawn is closer wins, wow what engaging gameplay
>>344213435
Lucio shouldn't be a healer. He should just have speed and his armor ult for the whole team. Healing just heals himself.
Mercy doesn't have Resurrection. It's fucking retarded, charges too fast, and is too strong. If you lose the fight you lose, no second chances. She already heals fast enough as it is and her attack buff is good.
>>344224358
a good tracer is the most cancerous being in Overwatch.
>>344224358
>Using low skill Genji
Why is everyone here a scrublord
>>344224350
a perfect zenyatta buff would make his harmony orb have no max range and not require line of sight. a perfect complement to that great tracer on your team who just needs a little more sustain to really cause massive problems
>>344224426
Welcome to Overwatch.
>>344224476
>Tracer
>Requiring you to be good
???
>>344224350
I appreciate what Blizz was trying to do with Symmetra and Zenny, but as long their healing and ults are outclassed by Mercy and Lucio they will only ever be good as the second support pick on a team.
And unless you have a competitive premade it's going to be a hard sell to get a second support on the team.
>>344224591
True. I really would love a fire and forget harmony orb. Plus it's not like it heals so much it's going to make you invincible or something.
>>344224754
Oh what's that? you got me to low hp? nah fuck that let me press E.
I have well over fifteen hours clocked into Reinhardt, twice as much as my second most played character. I've loved every second. There is no time for salt, only glory and evil cackling.
>>344224789
isnt that okay though? how many viable primary supports are needed, or possible? i mean yeah you can make zeny better and better at what he does to force him to be viable solo, but you'll have to take something away from discord to prevent HIM from being the broken one
>>344224789
>Have a team that only takes one sniper
congrats, you now have a reason for two supports
>>344224789
This is true. But I suppose the problem is that everyone assumes support=healing. Maybe reclassify them into a separate healer category or something. Zen's debuffs and Syms turrets/teleporter are still useful, you know.
>>344225054
breaking up category and the little tips on the side from "healing" and "support" would be a big deal towards fixing this
>>344224085
Exactly, who doesn't pick Mercy off first? She's either dead via flanker or at the very least she's targeted first with w/e ult combo you're using to kill shit.
Resing an entire team from a wipe (5 people) is so incredibly uncommon that it's basically an unicorn.
>>344224591
That's what it was like in early beta stages and Blizz hated it. People would give Harmony to flankers like Tracer and Genji and just leave them there for the rest of the game, meaning the actual ability saw very little play.
>>344225012
it was already taken away in the closed beta, the line of sight thing happened so discord orb disappears after 3 seconds of not being in zen's sight
>>344224943
I have well over ten hours clocked into Mercy, twice as much as my second most played character. I've loved every second. There is no time for salt, only shoving caduceus up people's asses.
>got the Devil skin in a box shortly after getting Valkyrie
>"oh what the hell, I'll use it anyway, I like the ult line change and the weapons look kinda cool"
>notice the iris color change and make up, hot red latex suit
>immediate semi
>can't stop using it because the skin gives me a hard-on
I told myself I wouldn't become one of those people
>>344217961
If you fail to shoot the medic that's on you.
what is syms turrets could be placed from a much greater distance instead of having to be beside them
>>344225054
The problem isn't healer should be its own thing. There could be a time that healing isn't meta anymore. What is the problem is that support is the smallest class and teams only want 2 out of the 4 supports.
The devs should really hurry up and bring a new healer into the game so support players don't need a second support on their team to have fun.
>>344225587
i'd rather have it to where symm doesn't slow down when placing turrets so she can be even more annoying
>>344225415
*gasp* were you that Mercy who came in with me for that all or nothing team rush? Those six Symmetra never stood a chance.
>>344225528
Her ult activates instantly, though. You have to kill her immediately, otherwise she WILL get it off, and nobody can really kill Mercy that fast.
>>344213435
she has literally the best ult in the game with for some reason one of if not the fastest charge rate in the game
its fucking dumb
So when is Tracer getting her hp reduced to 50?
>>344225930
when you're able to aim
>>344225965
Tracer picking FAGGOT identified. Your get out of jail button is bullshit and your time is coming.
>>344217961
>Press Q get quadra kill
>Other people pressing Q shouldn't be able to do a counter to that it isn't balanced
w0t
>>344217961
>press q to win gets countered
Cry more bitch
>>344226052
sorry you're bad at video games, maybe you should start playing with your team more instead of wondering off like an idiot trying to 1v1 tracer
>>344226431
>Hurr here's this ideal scenario that puts me in the "right" position
Fucking idiot, kill yourself.
>>344225930
100 is fine, she shouldn't out tank Genji by having 299 max HP.
>>344225965
>Rocket Tracer as S:76 and proceed to gun her down
>Immediately after she recalls
Sure, aiming is the problem
>>344226531
you first, positioning is a vital skill in FPS games maybe if you were better at video games you'd know that
>>344226095
>>344226282
theres no "press q to win" other than mercy's. all other ults require amazing timing or drooling opponents to solo wipe
>>344226590
Gun her down first so she uses recall or fucks off, then save your rockets to finish her off. Not hard, learnt that lesson after immediately using my helix rockets on tracers only for them to recall immediately.
>>344227148
lol
>>344226590
Tracers will E the second they get shot, so really you should save your abilities until after they recall
>>344227298
*Shit tracers will E the second they get shot
What's your rank? 34?
>>344221983
Faster bullets would be perfect
>>344226794
>Posts this
>while singularity exists
fuck off
>>344215128
>Her pistol sucks
t. terrible player
semi-offtopic, but does this guy feel a little unhinged now that McCree's nerfed?
>>344227297
Thanks for your insightful quality post, it contributes a lot.
>>344228048
Tanks are stronger now that the best medrange character is no longer an instant win at close range as well, so the tank killer is much more viable
>>344227148
Exactly my point. Just by playing Tracer you effectively deny most characters' damaging abilities, forcing them to:
>Shoot her down enough for a burst to kill her
>While barely surviving her amazing dps
If you don't have burst damage (All healing supports), you are at a disadvantage.
>>344227298
...No they don't.
