How do we fix competitive Overwatch?
>>344200207
delete it and add more than 3 gamemodes in your shit casual game
>>344200207
Stick a thumbtack over everyones Q key?
Not make the tie breaker a fucking coin flip for one
>>344200423
Sorry but stopwatch is too toxic
>>344200336
FPBP
>>344200207
They already figured this out back in TF2. It's called Stopwatch. If both teams won the map, the team that did it faster wins. Simple.
Even fucking Dirty bomb applied the stopwatch method and it worked great.
>>344200907
Not every strategy involves swift wins. It's a better solution but it's not ideal.
If they completely removed overtime from sudden death, that'd work. Or if they went back to the KoTH setup and made it so Overtime was no longer indefinite when the other team is on the point.
Make it Trivia instead
e.g.
Is OP a faggot?
-Halve match times
-Losses don't make you rank down, they just make the total amount of points to win from wins less. Your rank up speed points = Points Won - (Loss/Wins)
-Best 2/3
-Team Deathmatch mode
-CTF mode
-Control the Points mode.
>>344200207
>coinflips
stopwatch until they find something better
I knew blizzard couldn't make one game without some RNG bullshit thrown in.
also,
20 TICK
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might as well be competitive minecraft.
>>344200336
This, really. If you absolutely must have competitive, get rid of solo-queuing and require people to queue as full teams. But then that would probably kill competitive anyways.
>>344201818
comp mode uses 60 tick
>>344201785
>-Losses don't make you rank down
You are so fucking dumb holy shit. Look I know it sucks getting ranked down but thats the whole point of a rank dipshit. Not everyone can be winners little Timmy.
>destroy the other team
>get a pile of gold medals
>the entire enemy team leaves near the end of the match
>get practically nothing from winning
th-thanks blizzard
>>344202351
Source?
>>344202563
I dunno man, shit, I remember them saying that. Google it
>>344200207
They just need to add a 1 hero limit
>>344202634
you made the claim my friend
>go 2-3 on KOTH
>all rounds really intense, close matches
>teams super balanced
>lose a full rank because apparently we weren't balanced at all; the other team was two ranks better than us for winning that
It would be nice if they could change D.Va's laser pointer into a weapon. In quick play using her laser to point out things for my team mates has been useful sometimes, but the more I play competitive the more I wish she had a weapon. Even Mercy has a pistol in her secondary slot, so it's unfair that D.Va gets some way to deal damage as well.
>>344202929
>>344202351
no way in fucking hell. I've played 60 tick plenty and this shit is nowhere close to 60 tick.
Just look at the damn killcams and compare them to what you saw before you died if you want proof
>>344202393
You should only rank up
Losing makes you stay at your rank.
>>344202929
D.Va's laser pointer is infinitely better than her actual guns if you have enough skill to hit the 5 mile wide head hitboxes from a distance.
Split solo and team ranks.
Widen the distribution of ranks. a majority now fall between 40 and 60. Make 20/80 instead.
Fix it so supports and tanks are properly recognized by the ranking algorithm.
Make it harder to lose rank. You should be dropping after a losing streak, not after a single close game.
>>344201460
>Not every strategy involves swift wins. It's a better solution but it's not ideal.
In a game like this, the team that takes the point/pushes the payload the quickest generally does have the better strategy.
>>344201785
>Team Deathmatch mode
No. This should never be implemented in any way, shape, or form in this game.
>CTF mode
I actually would very much like to see this but I worry that certain characters might break it a bit or some characters would just never be useful for it. Tracer and Winston come to mind in particular as they can so quickly get to a backline and then get back without the other team making much of a dent on them. You could probably fix it by making the player grabbing the "flag" (whatever object needs to be retrieved) have to stay there to fill a meter, just like capping a point, before the flag is granted to them.
I also wouldn't mind seeing a mode where both teams have to capture the other team's point while keeping control over their own.
>>344201818
Servers are already running 60. It's clientside that isn't. They're still being stupid about rolling out 60 clientside mode because >hurrr we don't have enough test data to make sure it's working why aren't you guys wasting your time in pointless fuckaround custom games?
They should just have another play mode called Beta Play where games play and you gain XP just like Quick Play but they can implement all potential changes in that before finalizing the changes in Quick Play and Comp. They could use it to have the community fully test potential buffs/nerfs, map changes, and shit like 60 clientside mode and actually get the metrics for it to find out if it's working as intended for everybody or is breakaing the game.
>>344200207
When does season 1 end? So far ive been super lucky and winning matches and now I'm up to 73 from a shitty 47. Is there a limit to how high you can go? What happens at the end of the season? Will having a bigger number give me a greater reward when the season ends?
>>344204393
>>Team Deathmatch mode
>No. This should never be implemented in any way, shape, or form in this game.
Why not? It'll get all the shitters who only care about kills out of the other game types.
>>344205230
limit is 100
I got placed in 46 for whatever fucking reason, been destroying everyone at this skill level and keep getting held down by abandoners and really shit randoms.
https://youtu.be/SeNv81OSKqw
It would be fixed if they added more science
>>344204137
It's stupid that Zero Suit is at least a full tier above MEKA
Hell, I've found myself not calling mechs because I'm having way more success playing Zero Suit like a long range Tracer
>>344200207
Im having a real issue with losing ranks because when we're winning the enemy quits and it decimates you experience gain for ranking up, but obviously they don't quit if they're winning so the loss still hits as normal. Ive lost 10 fucking ranks from this.
The amount from a win when someone quits is less than a tenth of a normal win, so you could win a dozen matches where someone quits, and then a single loss completely wipes out all your progress. The automatic loss and threat of penalties isn't enough to stop people quitting mid match, i think it should give you even more xp so those whiney cry babies might at least see the match through to the end instead
>>344203836
>jump away as winston
>witness my dead body fly through the air
>watch death recap
>I just stand there dying without my body going anywhere
My actual favorite meme.
>>344202305
>get rid of solo-queuing and require people to queue as full teams
Are you insane? That's cutting off your nose to spite your face. Sure it sucks that there are so many tards out there who don't know how to balance a team, and happily pick their favourite character instead of a useful character, but i exclusively play solo, i dont even know 5 people who have Overwatch, let alone have it on the same platform.
>>344200207
By not forcing eSports bullshit into children's games.
>>344200207
Is the cointoss symbolic of matchmaking or something?
>>344207208
My favorite meme is when I get blown up by a tire that didn't render.
>>344204016
>suck at Overwatch
>play daily, 12 hours a day
>reach rank 100 with a W/L of 1/100
>can now never go lower than rank 100
>matched with other rank 100 players despite being completely incompetent
>>344207661
It's symbolic of tiebreaker rounds where the attackers are favored
Wait until Season 2 because they already confirmed they're removing Coinflips and adding Draws instead.
>>344205561
>been destroying everyone at this skill level and keep getting held down by abandoners and really shit randoms.
I know that feel. 30 eliminations got me a gold medal earlier today, feels bad man. I want people to be doing better than me, because otherwise my team must be utter shit
>>344202634
Just get out. Please
>>344207839
Will draws save you from losing rank? Or piss you off since you won't get anything since your team had a miraculous comback destroying the other team?
>>344205561
>I got placed in 46 for whatever fucking reason, been destroying everyone at this skill level
Post your overbuff or masteroverwatch profile, feel free to block your name, but you don't get stuck at sub 50 from "muh shit teams" unless you're meant to be there.
>>344208241
>Will draws save you from losing rank?
They haven't stated exactly how it will affect rank but the smart guess (and the guess that would make people not backlash at Blizzard a second time) would be draws = tiny win level up for both teams.
>>344200207
Only one of each hero per match.
>>344200207
>Ster
Do people actually think this guy is good? He throws so many games
>>344207818
>where the attackers are favored
i have more trouble with maps where defenders are favoured.
>neither team takes both points in Volskaya in 10 mins
>sudden death
>attacking
>here, try to take one point in 2 mins
Particularly with multiple Torbjorn/Bastion plays. A Reinhardt shielding a turret and a Bastion, maybe with Mercy or Lucio thrown in can easily defend any point through sudden death, attackers don't stand a chance
>>344200207
>How do we fix competitive Overwatch?
Remove it, its worthless
Insted let people play 6v6 10v10 15v15 20v20
Add more mods
Add more maps
Give people a option to mode and make their own maps like in tf2 for example
etc
how about instead of coinflips you just keep swapping sides until a team wins the attack AND the defense sudden death? and give the winning team more competitive points the longer it goes on. it would suck to lose after awhile of this, but you'd still get more exp and it beats losing 4 games in a row due to bad coinflips
>>344208563
I think he's funny. If you watch his videos enough you know he's not amazingly skilled and he straight up admit's he's not that good.I almost mostly like his dynamic with jerma.
>>344208852
because no one wants a match to go on forever
just make it one round koth no overtime
>>344208778
Options? Freedom? Fun? In a Blizzard game?!
>>344208563
He's just a guy.
>>344208502
But what if someone else picks a hero that you know you will do good for the team. During the match the guy is using the hero wrong and just gets assraped by the other team. He also refuse to change to let you use the hero properly. Yea no.
>>344200423
This.
Also if both teams win their round the faster one should get the win and it shouldn't be a fucking coin toss to decide the victor. Plus make the matchmaking better. Rank 68 and I'll get rank 40s on my team after a few wins. Csnt escape forced 50 even in this bullshit.
Also remove hero stacking.
>>344209209
dota 2 works.
>only one hero per team
>once you pick a hero, you are that hero til the end of the round
Will force faggots to think about the team comp before picking.
>>344209014
as if you're not going to keep queueing until you've deranked 10 times
>>344208778
>Add more mods
No.
>>344209326
I'm all for hero limits but locking you into a character is asking for trouble
>>344209272
The system they already use is better than what you're suggesting (except for the sudden death bullshit), imo. The faster you win the first round, the more time you'll have on the second round.
>>344207745
If you can make it to 100, you should never leave it.
>>344209536
Don't care, it'll stop a bunch of garbage and weed out the little indecisive faggots who panic the second they die and think switching to their main is the only way to go.
>>344209326
Sheeeeiit but that will put you in a bit of a disadvantage doing the offense/defense matches.
Is playing support in ranked still broken?
>>344209694
The problem is that the game's been balanced around counterpicking already. And do you really trust Blizzard to rebalance it correctly?
>>344209694
>lock everyone into playing one hero a round
>that will encourage them to not have a main
Huh? How are you suggesting people will be switching up heroes instead having a main by LOCKING their choice down?
>>344209326
This isn't a moba you faggot. You should be able to switch freely. But there needs to be hero limits.
>>344201818
>20 tick
my favorite meme spouted by retards that don't know what it means
>>344200207
Easy.
Instead of flipping for attack/defence, just load one of the point capture maps like Lijiang Tower or Ilios.
>>344209209
If you're only good with 1 class, quit
>>344204016
>Losing makes you stay at your rank.
That's LITERALLY the point. `
>competitive
>Overwatch
How dead is quick play now that they added competitive? I got burned out pretty quickly, but if I decide to play again I sure the fuck don't want to play "competitive" Overwatch.
>>344210182
that actually WAS the original sudden death system.
People actually complained and Blizzard changed it
>>344207376
Competitive mode is never actually going to be competitive as long as you allow people to queue as non-full teams. Right now it's essentially just a separate match-making queue with slightly different rules.
>>344209672
Which is why if you're bad you shouldn't rank up.
>>344210346
Comp makes quick play fun again.
>team that did the best with their time are on attack
How fucking hard is that.
>>344207745
If you're suggesting someone could play every day for 12 hours per day and still suck, I think you're off yer gobber mate.
>>344208778
SC2 is the last game that tried doing some of thatHow do I talk people out of caring about fucking competitive
>>344210346
Not dead, its just super easy now.
>>344201498
Yep. He is. And so am I.
Get rid of sudden death. It's just really stupid.
>>344210601
Can't. "Gamers" are stubborn.
>>344200207
Who the fuck is this kid and why should I give a shit about his opinion. Most of the people who cry about it fucking suck and are mad af when they lose. Don't blame the game homie, stop crying about hero stacking since it does literally nothing to the end result where you have to find an objective. It's not an FPS it's an objective game with no standard death match game mode
>>344210793
Tell me about it. Shit's not even depthful
I hope they mismanage the whole thing and the comp meme dies out
>>344210114
Regardless of whether or not the netcode issues are because of 20tick or not, you can't deny that there ARE netcode issues. I have never experienced more behind the wall shots and "missed" shots "hitting" in an FPS ever.
>enemy team pushes on overtime only and just barely win
>your team rolls them over and win the game in 90 seconds
>you lose the coinflip
>you lose the match
thanks blizzdog.
>>344210389
The point is to encourage anyone who owns the game to try and get better at the team work and communication by climbing ranks. It would be more skillful to be able to adapt to any team instead of staying with the same one.
>>344200423
>Tiebreaker
>A coin flip
Dude, it's judged by how many people are contesting the objective. Do you guys even fucking play?
>>344201785
>Death match
>Where there are healers and tanks
Wew where is death match Dota 2?
Overmeme worth the buy?
Aka does /v/ think it will be relevant in t-minus 3 months?
Played closed and open beta but not entirely 100% about paying 40 dollariedoos for it.
>>344209608
Why is that better? The system should be
Team A attacks round 1
Team B then attacks round 2. It needs to get farther than Team A, or do it faster. That's it. Only 2 rounds, no ridiculous tie breaker.
>>344211097
most of the retarded through the wall shit like hook is because of client side issues they still haven't fixed. One of their developers made a blue post about it a while back.
>competitive overwatch
>>344211402
nothing changed since the beta besides for comp mode
if you werent sure then, you probably shouldnt bother
>>344200207
>MOBA
>20 tickrate console shooter
>blizzard
the big bang theory of videogames.
>>344208563
well statistically he's in the top 8% of players world wide so...yeah he's pretty good apparently.
although I'm sure a quake pro like you or me or any of us 4chan gamers would beat him up ez pz
>>344211707
Do you have a license to posses that many memes?
>>344208563
he became a shitter
>>344211707
the big bang theory of shitposting
>>344211110
define losing the coin flip
attack is easier but if you are rolling them you can stall with the insane choke points pretty well
>>344200207
Make King of the Hill the standard gametype
>>344200207
How about fix whatever the fuck the last patch did? The game now runs like absolute ass even on low on a GTX970, dipping to 30-ish fps everytime theres more than 4 people on the screen
What the actual fuck
>>344209272
>win payload in 2 minutes flat
>hold the enemy until overtime on every checkpoint
>hurrdurr coinflip
>get unlucky and lose
>>344211906
>>344212014
come at me blizz babies, you can't handle it because it's true.
>sudden death
>enemy team can stack and cheese
>there is ZERO options to prepare for this because you can't change classes in time
If they're going to balance defense they need to let both teams know the comp.
>>344210512
>haha XD theres no way people can suck after playing 12 hrs a day hahaha
>http://masteroverwatch.com/profile/pc/us/Cylus-1365
Just make everyone gain/lose the same amount of ranked points no matter the medals
i am sick of playing 3 heroes i am best at every gamei miss playing mercy
>>344207208
I know the feeling. It makes me laugh those since the body is in ragdoll mode it just flies forever until it hits something
I've also seen McCree's hat do this (it goes flying off his head when he dies) and somehow it Bethesda'd across the map at incredible hihg speed
>>344212635
>Just make everyone gain/lose the same amount of ranked points no matter the medals
They do. Medals are not a factor, performance is not a factor, it's strictly your team's average Rank vs their team's average Rank.
There's a dev post on it but I'm too lazy to find it for you
Fucking remove Overtime. Im sick of crushing the enemy, running up all their time, only for it to go into unending overtime allowing them to get to a checkpoint or capture a point, resetting the clock. Sure, maybe they could win given another 5 mins, but they shouldn't be given that time. They had their time, they lost. I don't care if they're still contesting. Overtime should only occur if they're a meter a way from the next checkpoint, or at 99% on an objective if they can recapture it
>>344213987
I think overtime should be reworked. I think it's okay once. But the longer it goes on not only should it slowly go down even with them on it, it should also go dramatically down when they're off of it so a tracer can't zip in and out.
>>344214201
I could live with their being a set pool of time for overtime and any time overtime would ordinarily occur, it dips into that limited time, instead of basically being infinite
>>344213987
>>344214201
>>344215021
Or it could just be Stopwatch and fix this shit that was already figured out 10 years ago
>>344211121
You're retarded right? Its a literal coin flip to choose who gets to attack. Attackers almost always win since they only have to cap the first point.
>>344215134
This also applies to koth though not just payload.
what if, ok, get this
in SD, OT works slightly differently,
1)OT does not refresh when an attacker gets close enough to the objective
2)instead, OT is paused during a contested objective
3)OT gains time only when the objective is uncontested
>>344215134
overtime =/= sudden death
Overtime is the ingame mechanic of additional time being added if a point is being contested, it's essentially infinite as long as the point it contested. Sudden death is after the games have been played, ending in a tie, a coin is flipped one side is allocated attack and they have to capture a point in a very limited time
>>344214201
I think it should be extendable,but every time it's extended,it gets extended less.
>>344208563
the lad became a camgirl
hes lost it famalam
>>344200207
They need to fix how rank is determined. Please throw a bone to the person who at least did the best even if their team lost. We also NEED a forfeit option. No coinflip for ranked at all. Whoever played the best takes it (faster cap or how long on avg the payload moves) it even shows time time taken but its never used to decide the winner.
I'd pay money to see a good player solo climb out of the 40 bracket to learn some tech. Solo is impossible when hero roles are so specific and fill a certain niche.
Will I get banned for leaving matches until I get a team that knows what a video game is? It gives me an XP penalty which I don't give a shit about but I don't want to get banned.
>>344208563
Actually watch him play some time. He's legit.
But his personality is also that of a normal guy rather than a try hard scream caster like everyone is used to in their LEL BEST YOUTUBER EVERs. He's also willing to admit when he could have picked up a kill or not died due to small errors.
>>344211402
My money's on it still being heavily played in 3 months, yes.
>competitive
>blizzard
>>344208252
I want to post my profile and get criticized and see what I did wrong but how would I go about doing that? I want to show my whole profile off for others to see what I'm doing wrong.
>>344216103
>Solo is impossible when hero roles are so specific and fill a certain niche.
~65% win rate and on my way to rank 70, all done completely solo. It's definitely possible to carry solo, it's just pretty hard at times.
>>344200207
Holy shit. Fix? The game is just out and is already broken? Or you're just crying about it because you're bad at it? I never played the game, but "How do we fix it" sounds ridiculous at this time.
>>344217519
Blizzard themselves have admitted that they fucked up big time with the coinflip system and they will change it, but they are gonna wait until season 2 to do anything about it, which means another ~2 months of a broken system.
>>344217027
You can't just say words and expect to them to be true.
>>344205184
>hurrr we don't have enough test data to make sure it's working why aren't you guys wasting your time in pointless fuckaround custom games?
No one does it because the 60hz option in custom games crashes 99% of people's clients.
>>344217408
in the 40 bracket dude
I went 6-4 in placement and ended up at 49 so I was doomed from the start. 55+ look great from the streams I watched. In the 40 bracket you have people picking torb on koth when we're fighting for the point.
>>344200207
Turn all sudden death games into KOTH with mirrored sides.
>>344200207
>competitive overwatch
>>344217628
Well, shit. Well, Blizzard do delay shit like champions.
>>344217913
Don't feel too bad, started at 59, had nothing but wins against quitters, every loss wipes out ten or more wins, i'm now rank 49
>>344217913
rank 61 here, carried myself in soloq from rank 45, you have no excuse nigga
>>344201785
I hope Blizzard doesn't read /v/, because your suggestions suck
SUB-60 SHITTERS ARE BARRED FROM THIS THREAD AND OFFERING THEIR TRASH OPINIONS
>>344218218
Can you post your stats? Any tips?
I didn't want to post mine but fuck it.Alexm305#1670is my ID plug it in any of the stat tracker sites if you would be kind enough to help. Please look at my stats and tell me how much I suck and what I need to do i-if its okay.
>>344211426
Because that locks team composition into speed strats and makes it boring as shit to watch because instead of interesting tactics you get rushing 24/7
>>344218218
>you have no excuse nigga
how about, everyone fucking quits before they lose which reduces your xp earning to less than a tenth of what it would've been, whereas losses hit the same no matter who leaves?
>>344217792
How are mirrors real if our eyes aren't?
>That lonely on the point feel
>>344219428
>gold medal objective time
>10 seconds
>>344219738
>3 elims
>1 objective kill
>2 golds
>tfw
>>344219428
>when you cap the point alone against the entire enemy team as reaper
>>344200207
>p-plz plz quit
>we bully u rly hard money evrywhere
>y u no quit
>y u no scared of money
>ur lyfe is ruin quit nao
>kill yrsfl but quit first plz plz
>plz...
lol, get your just desserts, you corrupt pieces of shit
>>344208563
Ster keeps it real. And I really appreciate that. So many streamers talk bullshit or plain simply lie. Looking at you seagull.
>competitive mode for a casual game
I don't think I'll ever understand this
>Hollywood
>flatten enemy 3-0
>almost no experience because a couple of them quit before the end
Fix that fucking shit above all else, I shouldn't be getting punished because someone else decided to quit
>>344200207
>stealth heartstone thread
>>344220903
Casual doesn't mean what /v/ told you it means.
>>344221253
Follow up, just occured
>Dorado
>Getting beaten to shit
>enemy playing Zarya, Roadhog, Torbjorn, Symmetra, Junkrat and Pharah
>Pharah way too fucking good at being an annoyance
>can't go for Pharah, will get killed by someone else
>can't go for someone else, will get kiled by Pharah
>don't even reach first check point, i already know this will be a loss
>as expected, brutally raped by enemy offence
>my team decided to play Reinhardt, 2 Bastion, Mercy, and Tracer, I went Junkrat
>get to stats screen
>5 eliminations
>gold medal
Just fucking why, /v/?
>>344208563
I like ster because he's ster, if you like him because he plays tf2 and overwatch competitively then something is wrong with you because both those games' competitive are a joke
>>344220271
How to deal with Bastion:
>Wait until he's being distracted and kill him from outside his FOV
>Lob grenades as Junkrat without giving him line of sight
>Bullshit your way behind enemy lines as Tracer and drop a bomb
>Wait until Reinhardt has his shield up and shoot the fuck out of Bastion while it weathers the onslaught
>Raise an ice wall or create some sort of shield so your team can cross his death zone and get a better vantage point on him
>Use Genji to reflect his bullets back since most Bastion's don't understand that this can happen
How not to deal with Bastion:
>Run up in front of him and try to beat him in a DPS race
>Stand in his line of sight and shoot at some other asshole while you get destroyed
>Form a conga line through the exact door he's been killing people through all match so that he can go tank mode as soon and as often as possible
>>344220657
>ster
>real
lmao, ster completely sold out to blizzard. Nobody that was "real" would hop on blizzard's dick like that for a game that wasn't released and ride it all the way up to its """competitive""" mode.
>>344220268
>team pops graviton on point and fucks up the team mostly, but still loses fight to mercy revive
>jump in with death blossom and clean up, cap point alone with rest of my team and entire enemy team dead or coming out of spawn
>>344208976
Fucking this.
Together they are so fucking good, it's crazy.
>>344200207
Blizzard said they're getting rid of the cointoss come the fall season. They admitted there's gonna be a lot of changes coming after Summer season is done.
>>344225137
The guy played TF2 for over 7 or 8 years, give him a fucking break already mate.
>>344223169
>overtime resets to 10 whole fucking seconds anytime someone touches the point, even if for a single frame
>overtimes resulting in the enemy team going 5 tracers
>teams go 5 dvas to counter because of her armor heavily hampering tracer's gun
comp overwatch is a fucking joke, and it's all because of that shitty overtime and no hero limit
>People still haven't figured out how ridiculously low the skill ceiling for this game is yet
>>344226281
So you have figured it out, and no one else has...? Sounds legit.
So how does this game compare to 2009/10-era TF2? Before the F2P/community-crafted item bloat?
>>344228845
a shallow emotionless husk.
Pyro has more character than anybody in Overwatch.
>>344228845
It's a lot more empty than it once was. Back then modded servers were pretty popular, all the good ones are now dead. Other than that and item market shit not much has changed.
>>344229236
>So much character in TF2!
>They're not just lame stereotypes!
>This recent IP will never compare to the rich world of a game that's been out almost a decade!
>I don't need to watch the half dozen cinematic shorts, or read any of the lore to know no effort went into the world of Overwatch and it's characters
Kill yourself
>>344225907
He didn't get TF2 until it was already free.
>>344200464
how
Increase the respawn timer once from points maps where the spawn is only one wall away(Anubis, Hanamura) because it's way to much in favor of the defense.
>>344200207
Did anybody see that stream the other day when the other team just went 5 d.vas and tried to cheese the hell out of hanamura defense, and it worked for a while
>>344210512
>>344205410
Cmon dude the point of class-based shooters is that each class is good at something, so obviously not all of them are equally as good at killing. a team deathmatch mode completely takes the strategy and possibility of varied teams coming together because everyone would just pick a character who specializes in quick kills like Bastion, Torb, etc. Support classes and most of the tanks would become utterly useless if DM were a thing.
How to fix KOTH Overtime shenanigans.
>Overtime Meter no longer refills to full when one person touches the point
>Overtime Meter now pauses at whatever time 1 person enters it at (as in if 3/4 empty it pauses at 3/4 empty so long as one person remains on it)
>Overtime Meter depletes from wherever it is paused at when no one stands in the point
>If 2 people enter the control point during overtime it refills to full
There, 1 Tracer is no longer the ultimate "You wanted this game to end? Too bad! Fuck you! Enjoy rape pistol!"
>>344231676
wow
>>344212613
Played with this guy today.
Liked to talk shit despite his level.
>>344231676
No way can that be real
>>344200423
>>344200207
Comp is ass
Its always
>One team winning by a lot and someone leaves
or
>close game is decided by a coin toss
every fucking game
>>344231676
Saw a lvl 300+ Reaper player on a stream at rank 49 the other day. How these people haven't hung themselves is beyond even me, a videogame stream watcher.
>>344231987
Well that's just needlessly complicated. Why not only allow overtime when someone's at 99% and then use a limited timer? If the enemy is at 99% and you start to capture, go into overtime with maybe 30 seconds on the clock, no reset, just 30 more seconds to capture, and if you can't you were clearly never going to win in the first place
>>344211112
>It would be more skillful to be able to adapt to any team instead of staying with the same one.
>People without friends believe this.
>>344234424
How is that not true?
I mean, human nature makes it impossible, but in theory it's true.
>>344200207
Draft mode
Penalty for changing hero(15 second extension on respawn
No multiple heroes on one team
>>344200207
By making it more of a risk reward mode.
Right now everyone is in ranked because there is NO reason to play unranked at all, so you get a ton of shitters who are in their placement matches and bring the whole game down.
>>344200464
Is that something Blizzard said/implied?>>344202351
I think the tick rate is kind of voided because the hit detection is client side
>>344233390
If someone leaves in competitive, they should be banned from competitive for one hour.
After that two hours, then it exponentially increases to infinity
>>344233491
I saw a 319 guy today, played exclusively Genji. He was pretty bad, for some reason thought he could take me on as Winston the entire game. I don't think he killed me once.
Also had a 245 or so McCree in that game who was pretty good.
>>344202634
>source: i heard it somewhere before i think, idk
why even post? you wasted your own time and everyone else's. fuck you forever
>>344234987
that's how it works right now. multiple offenses can actually result in a ban for the duration of the entire season
Why are people saying it's bad for the opposing team if one of YOUR teammates quit?
>>344204137
Zero Suit D.va is literally Mercy without her actual abilities
>>344217148
just link it, dude
>>344230418
what the fuck does that have to do with anything?
>>344211062
>depthful
>>344210346
quick play is much more enjoyable. occasionally you'll see a tryhard and wonder what the fuck they're doing there, but the matches feel better in general now.
>>344236293
I think they don't get as much rank points.
>>344236293
Decimates the xp they earn for rankings. Even if someone quits right at the end. It's less than a tenth of what they would've earned if everyone stayed to the end. But losses are always the same, so you could win a dozen matches where someone quits meaning you gain next to no progress in your ranking, and then losing a single match will completely wipe out that progress.
>>344211402
>he thinks a blizzard game will stop being popular in 3 months
even Shitlords of Diarrhea still has millions of subs, dude.
>>344212129
might be time to clean your comp, bro. i have an i5-4670 and a GTX970 and i never drop below 70 FPS
>>344208563
>Ranked among the top 10% of players.
>Doesn't cry and throw insults 24/7 like other streamers.
>Admits what he did wrong when he dies or loses a match and learns from it.
>Funny and humble.
>Doesn't have meme gifs all over his screen like every other overwatch streamer.
The mans pretty good. One of the better streamers out there. I remember seeing him refund a $300 dollar donation because he felt like he didn't deserve it.
>>344200207
How do we fix this shit game in general?
Everytime an OW thread pops up, I remember back when people had fun in video games. Those were good times.
>>344237463
>Casual
>>344200207
you go play other fuking games and stop worrying about the devs job.
as it is usually the one defending wins unless they seriously fuck up.
ranked is annoying as fuck. been hovering between 34 -36 for a week. people play better in ranked but not MUCH better.
I don't think the teams I'm on want to win bad enough.
>>344237463
>I remember back when people had fun in video games
so far its my goty.
its addictive to play even though its so simple and barebones. shit I'd usually bitch about, but I'm actually enjoying playing even when I lose.
so, I'm getting my money's worth out of it.
>>344205230
Yes
>>344215256
>tfw only made it to coinflip once and it was defending in hanamura
>held it for 2:15 and won handily
>>344237724
that rank is very low and i hope you know you aren't there because of your teammates.
>>344209326
>implying that this will deter instalocking Hanzos and Genjis
20 seconds during team assemble is not enough time to convince idiots not to pick the Shitmada bros
>>344220271
bastion is so useless against anyone with half a fucking brain.
>>344209326
That's literally the stupidest thing I've ever heard. What if you don't have a counter to a character on their team? Then your fucking out of luck cause you can't change. Plus the whole game is about switching to fit the pace and counter the other team.
>>344237932
>a $40 f2p is goty
Lmao
>>344238127
I don't know, there's probably something to be said for the fact the lower you slip the harder it will get to carry your team because they'll all be more useless and pathetic, and even against a useless and pathetic opposition team, 1 person won't necessarily win the match
>>344238127
that doesn't mean anything though when my team and the enemy team are at the same levels.
if I suck, then we all suck. the ranking is messed up. if you lose you lose hard, win and you hardly win anything.
>>344223169
and people were calling me crazy for saying dva needs a nerf
>>344238874
if he started at 34-36, that's a reflection on himself and not his teammates. winning in the placement matches doesn't mean as much as performing well in general since that's how you're initially ranked. i can't imagine he started at ~50 and lost so much that he's now at ~35
>>344238874
this too.
I was on a match and was getting near 20 kill streaks and died only once. clearing the area and telling people to move in . but nope, they wanted to fight away from the area leaving me to do it myself. they died and I got swarmed by the enemy team.
can't do this shit by myself. wtf.
>>344239246
>started at 34-36, that's a reflection on himself and not his teammates
is it? how is the rank measured? like even if you lose all 10 matches but you're good you'd stil be rank 50?
I doubt it. your team must have some impact on your rank since losing reflects much more. and if your team is uncoordinated how can that be the one persons fault?
>>344239626
i lost 7 of my placement matches (all solo queue) and placed 48. it's initially ranked based on your overall performance. of course winning more often and not getting stomped probably means you're getting lots of medals, but this is why support players are being ranked lower than usual: they can only get one or two medals per match. after that you will most likely hover within that bracket so long as you played your best in the placement matches. like you said, sometimes your team sucks, so why would the placement matches not take that into account? they actually do consider that so they rank you based on your skill compared to other players, not based on your win rate. that would be stupid as 6-man premades could totally stomp the opposition and get rank 60+ because they won 9 or 10 of the placement matches when really they belong closer to 50 like the majority of players.
if you lost all 10 matches and still got rank 50, it would mean you were earning the majority of the medals most of the time and those shitters would go to rank 30 or so like you.
So how do you think personal stats factor into your competitive ranking? My friend on the left here is 56 with a 65% win rate (there's a Mercy game not listed, he is not great with Mercy), and mine with just placement done is 63 with an 80% win rate, exclusively playing Mercy.
I'm not the greatest healer, or the greatest reviver (those lil meters show your percentile, I'm pretty middle of the road), all I really excel at over other Mercy players is pistoling.
While over on the left, for relevant tank stats, my friend generally ends up much higher than similar healer stats you'd think would matter on a support. High K/D, high blocked damage, pretty good damage and objective kills.
But he came out of placements a decent deal lower than me.
>>344240216
ah maybe thats why. I played a lot of symmetra mostly. I got a few medals too so i thought I was doing better. a shame support doesn't get as much credit.
should have used pharah more. I beast with her.
always next season I guess.
if you beat the enemy that easily, OT should be a cake walk no matter what side you're on during the overtime round
>>344240256
or maybe support does get credit.
ah fuck it.
>>344202351
>inb4 "console"
Definitely not on Xbone. Feels exactly the same as quick.
>>344228845
Non-meme answer:
It's missing the sense of community tf2 had. Lower server count coupled with literally nobody using mics means it feels pretty sterile. You'll get some tf2 vibes, but it's not a good replacement.
Maybe once it gets up and running and they've gotten a couple of big patches under their belt it'll feel better. It's a legitimately good game that has a lot of potential, but it's no early tf2
>>344208563
Ster is at his best when he's tilting and you can hear he's about to break from his voice
>>344237362
>I remember seeing him refund a $300 dollar donation because he felt like he didn't deserve it.
Got a link?
>>344241065
From what I understood of the dev post, and various anecdotal evidence, your 'personal stats' or how they weigh into your score are more about comparing you to the averages established by players of that character. In which case my actual relevant stats (Healing, revives) would be pretty middle of the road, more befitting of a 50-55 ranking.
I'm kinda curious if my ranking is seriously overvaluing shit like k/d and damage done just because it's top percentage, while my friend, who is a very very solid tank player ends up looking less spectacular due to just having fairly higher end stats all around instead of one or two things being extremely high for the characters, relevant to actual gameplay or not.
Essentially I guess I'm curious if the stats are actually valued correctly per character, and if anyone else has any experience ending up higher or lower depending on their stats being nonstandard for a character.
>>344238870
What else has been release this year that's any good?
Was there even anything from last year that was good?
>>344241609
yes obviously they compare you to median values otherwise you'd only be ranked by w/l which is a fraction of the story in this game
>>344240853
>beat enemy easily
>overtime
pick one
>>344202929
Laser pointer?
>>344233491
>Hung
It's Hanged when referring to death by hanging /autism
>>344241768
i mean there is no over time if they cap less than you right? surely there's no coin flip if you cap 2 points and they cap 1?
>>344241970
Don't get so hanged up on the little things anon.
>>344242046
overtime != coin flip
Have you played the game?
>>344241717
Yeah that part's obvious, but do you game the system by just going for stats that aren't standard for a character? The obvious example being the provided 'high damage Mercy' - high damage and K/D for Mercy, but overall not a highly relevant factor in the scheme of a game.
Remove ultimates, they have no place in an FPS like this.
are they planning on fixing server lag or is it a feature?
i don't like it how you always die 3 seconds later on my screen than in replay screen
>>344242150
I imagine the stats are weighted. There's not much point to playing mercy if you're going to frag. i mean the pistol is alright damage however there so many other weapons that just do it better. I would hope they would weight her contributions toward healing/dmg boost/revives.
Here is how you fix competitive overwatch
>Make ranking player skill based, not team based
>Bonus for winning when calculating player skill
>Have losing rank more difficult than gaining rank
>>344207208
that happens a lot with winston
I think corpses are client-side, or at least dont move during killcam
>>344243315
>losing rank more difficult than gaining
so just have everyone trend towards 100? how the fuck am I supposed to know if someone is good or just plays a bunch?
>>344243315
>Get 3-4 gold medals
>Drop down a rank because the team is shit
>>344208563
He's not a scumbag and actually decent at the game
His stuff is god tier when he is playing with Jerma/Boo or any of those guys
>>344200207
>Competitive
>Overwatch
Pick one
