Heavy or Pyro, /v/? What else needs to be rebalanced?
>>344198317
Leaving aside furfags, ponyfags, pyrofags and grills that main pyro and probably will mindlessly join the pyro army, the REAL CLASS that needs balance is HEAVY i mean come on, pyro had enough shit already, also a new weapon for heavy would be really neat.
>>344198317
http://www.strawpoll.me/10690680
Post your loadouts and react to my good fortune.
>>344201602
>strawpoll
Top shelf!
>>344198317
>not making heavy great again
>Pyro Is unarguably the worst class
>"Let's make him compete with a decent class to see If we will give him viable weapons!"
Enjoy being mowed down by your direct counter.
>>344199432
New shotgun pls
>>344201602
lolwut
are these petulant soldiers or just idiots? heavy is literally useless. pyro isn't even in the top three 'most broken/useless' classes.
>>344201883
Mad heavy main
>>344201804
whenever i see golden frying pans i am reminded of that reddit screencap of the guy complaining that people could pick up and use the golden frying pan he paid $3000 for and cant help but laugh
also lmao'ing at your life for playing pyro
>>344201804
>non unusual weapons
>laughing girls.exe.troj
>>344201804
waiting for the new prinny outfit
>>344201980
Why is it people can't read
You don't need to play as the class to earn points for them, you just choose a side and earn points no matter what class you play
>>344202186
But Pyro's utility is directly proportional to the enemy's dumbness, all his main weapons do shit damage unless you are in melee range, his main utility is stopping ubers and demo and soldiers can do that as well while also actually killing stuff and being infinitely more mobile
>>344202332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KAGwNtI26w
Tldr
Vote hoovy. Only cucks and 12 year olds play pyro. In fact, it doesn't matter. Both are going to get their shit eventually. That is if tf2 survives another year. The only thing worth looking into are the comics and it's not even confirmed if there is a comic that follows the storyline included in this update.
>inb4 overshill fag
I don't support Overwatch and I don't support tf2
>>344198317
I LOVE BOTH OF THEM BOTH AS CHARACTERS AND AS GAMEPLAY
FUCK YOU VOLVO Y U DO DIS
>>344202620
You probably support copious amounts of cocks in your mouth tho
>>344202242
I main demopan. Not heavy
>>344202737
That's ur mothers job. Also how is this relevant
>>344198317
I'm assuming this whole "earn points for Heavy/Pyro" is only gonna work on Valve servers, right?
>>344202998
You can only earn points for your side on the new Matchmaking (both Competitive and Casual)
So technically yes
>>344199432
>the REAL CLASS that needs balance is HEAVY
But Pyro is utter dogshit at the moment, he's the one more desperately in need of changes.
>big patch coming
>whoa guys biggest patch in years is coming
>big stuff happening behind the scens
>just saw the upcoming patch and WOW
>its literally just competitive that was already out in beta and a vote on what they might work on next
>>344203180
They haven't revealed the balance notes yet.
![5d5baf67db[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IeR1ziA.jpg "5d5baf67db[1].jpg")
>>344201804
I need to repaint my mask but I don't know which color
>>344199432
You're delusional if you think heavy needs more love then pyro right now.
Try to see past "NEW TOYS 4 MY MAIN XDD" for a few seconds.
UPDATE IS LIVE
>>344203203
Nice.
Heavy is by far my least played class (like 50h out of 3700), because its just so samey and slow, not because it's underpowered. I dont really care for its balancing because ive seen some people make heavy seem really OP. But some more option and variety would be nice, and I dont mean just a new minigun/shotgun.
I dont really give a shit about Pyro though, I think its a fine meme class for fucking around and doesnt necessarily need to change.
Pyro doesn't deserve anything good. Hell if anything they should remove it from the game all together since it's the most terrible class.
>>344203574
ruseman
>>344203671
In competitive, it's so important to have a pyro to deflect shit and stall ubers.
It's not useless, but it's not good enough. The pyro needs anything else other than the nothing it has.
>The Carlton
based valve
>>344203671
You can counter W+M1 by shooting the Pyro and generally not being shit at the game
>>344201980
>Pyro Is unarguably the worst class
LOL
>>344204160
Hi spy main/ F2P soldier
I don't think he's going to get weapons but just incase I crafted 25 pyro tokens, 10 primary tokens, 10 secondary tokens and 5 melee
I'm ready for crafting
>>344203203
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
NEXT LEVEL STUFF
>>344204160
He is the worst class
Medic is essential in every team
Scout, soldier, and demoman are the generalists and thus always good
Heavy and Engineer are decent for defending the final point
Spy and Sniper are decent for picking off important classes
Pyro is just there to stall ubers for 8 seconds and then fuck off
>>344202620
>>344202737
#rekt
>>344203303
Its gonna be nothing and you know it
>>344205058
>Oh, and new taunts, new crates, a whole crapload of game balances and a bunch of other stuff.
>a whole crapload of game balances
>>344201804
I want revenge for what they did to the miniguns. Heavy first, even though the furries, kids, and mexicans will all vote pyro.
Totally glad they finally named all the miniguns, though.
>>344202712
It's just competing to see which one gets an update first. They're both getting updates.
>>344205185
Oh boy! Ruin more fun items to make them 'comp friendly' like the cladamor! I CANT WAIT. TAKE MY PHONE NUMBER
>>344205502
>backtracking
Heavy needs some kind of fundamental stat boosting to be made more viable. The difficulty of this is why they've continuously delayed it, but it only becomes more pressing with every update.
Soldier/Demo/Knight needs to be reworked, Sodier and Demo should be merged down to Demo ('the explosives guy') and Knight split off and made its own legitimate class.
Pyro is actually almost fine. Airblast reflecting could use some tweaking to be more reliable and useful (starting with the fix that it actually work as advertised, moving from there to reduced self-damage and making it easier to do in the first place, etc.).
Scout should have Atomizer and Winger both integrated as base features of the class (I would even say to let Scout jump infinitely, as long as he has the health for it, but obviously that would need some other reworks to handle things such as quickfix medics). There is no excuse for 'the mobility guy' to require a specific loadout to actually fulfill that role, and otherwise be completely outmoded by 'the jack of all trades'.
speaking of soldier. he has to go. i said above, he and demo should be merged. this should definitely be the mechanism to kill Soldier, more than anything else.
>>344205689
This is the dumbest post I've ever read and I wish I could smack you through the internet for it.
>>344201804
Let's go Pybros
Not only does Heavy need a revamp more, pyro also happen to be bronies or faggots 99% of the time
It's an easy choice
>>344205689
kys
>>344205689
(you)
>>344205969
>Playing Scout
>Do pretty good
>Notice my team's getting hurt by spies constantly
>Use the class switching feature which I can use at any time to switch to Pyro and better help my team
>Become a faggot
Is that how it works now?
MAKE PYROS GREAT
MAKE PYROS GREAT FOR ONCE
BELIEVE WITH ME TOGETHER
>>344205689
I agree melee should be its own class and not a tumor attached to Demoman, but everything else in your post is garbage.
>>344205896
yeah he's fucking retarded and thinks team fortress is paladins
>>344206234
>for once
Pyro was great before Degreaser and Axtinguisher were nerfed.
>>344206548
>being a combofaggot
Serves you right, you stupid nerd.
>>344202332
>might
>likely
Loadouts?
>>344206768
as expected of a scout main
When does the update go live?
I don't actually play dress up, I just throw on the most expensive shit I have.
>>344206849
Think I'm gonna go get some lime green/pink paint. Maybe get that Beanie.
>>344206736
I always combo'd with Degreaser and Flare Gun, so it didn't hit me as hard, but the point still stands.
Comboing is the only non-braindead way to get kills as Pyro.
>>344207014
today
>>344206736
comboing was so fun though
>>344207303
Valve Time dictates the update goes live next week.
>>344207303
ho many hours
>>344207207
How about you actually learn how to play as Pyro before talking out of your ass?
>>344207367
>comboing
>fun
>>344201804
I would, but i recentl sold my cosmetics, or at least the ones that sold for any amount.
At least i still have my team captain
>>344207415
However many there are left until late Thursday afternoon Specific Time.
>>344205689
I barely play TF2 and this is still the single worst post in regards to the game I've ever read.
>>344207415
69 rofl
>>344207592
>>344207618
i dont know western world time
>>344198317
FUCK PYROS
TEAM HEAVY WW@?
>>344207530
Alright, tell meh ow you play Pyro. I'm sure it's even more fun and viable.
>>344207530
playing pyro the "proper" way makes him a useless piece of dogshit that just to the team whose only use is to spycheck in anything besides a braindead pub, the combo was the only reason pyro was remotely viable
>>344207530
>doesn't know what a flare punch is
Pyro is only good for running around mindlessly anyways.
They aren't as viable as other classes in comp 6's so you end up as top retard in a Valve pub server.
all heavy needs is that stupid minigun ramp-up nerf removed
pyro needs to be both viable and fun to play against
i don't trust valve to do the latter so i'm gonna go with big guy team
>>344207937
reporting in
>>344208172
My dream would be that the reversal of that update that removed Heavies picking up their own Sanfviches as health packs the GRU's doing -6/s or w/e instead of minicrits.
>>344208059
>>344208123
Oh wow, I haven't heard opinions this wrong in any while. I'd hate to have either of you in my team, since you clearly know less about the game than your average Middle East F2P player.
>>344208045
Or how about instead of whining endlessly about "muh combos waaaa! ;_;" you actually try the Pyro's other weapons, huh? The Detonator, the Backburner, the Powerjack, the Homewrecker, the Scorcher Shot, you know?
>>344201804
>>344208527
You might need to stop playing solely in pubs if you think pyro is viable in his current state against good players as anything other than a spychecker who can sometimes reflect
>>344208527
You seem to be the one endlessly whining without making any actual points.
I like both classes but im gonna have to agree that Heavy has the less amount of weapons compared to pyro, plus he needs some love after a while
I laughed at this line.
>>344207937
>>344208527
>I'm bad at the game.
You took a really long time to say nothing.
http://www.teamfortress.com/meetyourmatch/war.php
>pic related
>>344201804
Rate my Carl Hoovy
Or don't,It don't matter
>>344209201
None of this matters/10
>>344209201
I mean, it's an item set. It's gonna look decent together no matter what but it's kinda uncreative.
>>344209201
lmao I have the exact cosmetic loadout
I just got voted off of an official server for not being friendly
This game is fucking dead
>>344208752
>It's another loadout circlejerk thread
>>344209313
In terms of creativity, you're probably the first person to ever combine a championship belt with a wrestling mask.
>>344209201
>>344209525
No, it isn't very creative at all. But at least the items weren't specifically released together as a promotional set. The low craft number's cool. Once I crafted a #13 something or other and made some money off of it, think I squandered all of it on ref trying to get another low craft though.
>>344209023
>>344209516
Lemme load up some pictures of incredulous chinese cartoon girls to bump the thread instead.
>>344209758
>mann co. select
What does that mean again?
>>344209758
At this rate I'd rather have anything else over an endless cycle of ego stroking
>>344209841
It's been there a while.
>>344208572
>Halal Hackjob
What the fuck are these things? Were they always there?
>>344210061
They'recool beans
>>344209957
>ego stroking
We're on an anonymous image board, not Reddit. This thread will be gone in 20 minutes and no one will remember the posts. Dingus.
>>344201804
I only have shit in my back pack besides my Basic Sniper with kills, headshots and heavy kills on it. I sold everything years ago and made a really good amount of money, it lasted me for years.
>>344210126
why
>>344209294
My fucking dude
>>344210178
That loadout's a bit shitty tbqh lad.
>>344210282
It'sfun
>>344210176
A valve employee said the update will be "neato" and "cool beans"
>>344202332
So pyro is canon male now?
Transfags BTFO
>>344210418
Literally nobody thought Pyro was trans, what are you talking about?
>>344201804
>>344210564
Well when his gender wasn't known, people thought all sorts of things. Male, female, robot, British
I've seen some posts about how transfags feel good because they have a self insert class
>July 7th, 2016
>Heavy still does not have an iron curtain strangifier
WHEN VALVE
>2.2GB
>2.2GB
>2.2GB
>2.2GB
FUCKING RESTART STEAM
NOW
>>344210665
Get a better hat you fucking plebian.
This one ruins everything.
And dye that beard brown/black so you don't look like such a faggot
>>344210945
What the fuck ?
Is steam not loading for anyone else?
>>344210945
FUCK YOU
>>344210854
Who the fuck cares about that shit?
>>344207937
NOW IS COWARD KILLING TIEM
>>344210945
HOLY FUCK IT'S REAL!
>>344210996
The Tough Guy's Toque iscomfy.
>>344209724
>>344211261
I DO
>>344210801
That was probably just the androgynous gender retards
>>344206215
But scout is the best spy counter since they added the godmode buff on the deadringer.
its baby time
>>344207113
whoa mama/10
>>344198317
>Make heavy(or pyro) great again!
Filthy new player here
How does one become a perfect Medic?
Jesus fucking christ /tf2g/ is leaking hard nowadays.
Go fuck ourselves, TF2 is a dead game and this board belongs to Overwatch now.
Time to finally severely nerf the sticky launcher.
>near impossible to see
>way too much damage
>deploys quickly
>spam2win noob bullshit
Shit's been broken since TF2 launched.
>>344211818
>this board belongs to Faggotwatch now
FTFY !
>>344211878
Demoman is the most balanced class in the game.
>>344211783
1. heal
2. don't die
>>344211932
don't respond to bait
that goes for all of you
professiounouls? dey have standourds.
>>344211783
Learn to surf damage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UQDcw-GMGg
>>344211818
>>344211818
Screenshot this now and post it in a year and be amazed. Overwatch will be near dead in a year and TF2 will be as popular as ever.
>>344211943
You're a funny, funny person.
>>344211783
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83lM5QoSM24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2Tsn9H-8ME
practicing movement is really important too, jump and airstrafe constantly and always be ready to surf incoming spam
>>344211932
nice reverse bait
![AVGN[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/KDpCqoc.jpg "AVGN[1].jpg")
>TF2 update thread
>a bunch of manchildren comparing expensive online Barbies
>>344198317
>1 year and a half since they released weapons and they're only beginning to work on a new set
>>344211783
Use crossbow.
Use quik fix/stock.
Use ubersaw.
>>344212142
There's nothing to talk about until they release the fucking balance notes.
>>344211818
>this board belongs to Overwatch now.
You only say this because mods won't do their fucking job and contain Overwatch to a few threads. They just let it run rampant.
>>344212116
Oh yeah also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GDT1GUWkW8
![theoriginal[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bcbmQbt.jpg "theoriginal[1].jpg")
I just want a Strange Original
>>344201804It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I am all out of gum.
>>344211818
>Blizzard marketers on full damage control
>>344212142
Why is it that shitposters almost always use that image to accompany their post? I just don't get it.
>>344211783
Crossbow is a must, so is ubersaw. In pubs use whatever you want but normally you want to use stock.
i haven't played in a while
>>344212497
STOP FUCKING REPLYING TO IT
>>344212385
That torso cosmetic is a mod right
It's not actually an ingame item is it
>>344212519cute
>>344212572
Yes, it isAnd it's fucking tite
>>344211783
Heal people.
Always have medibeam on someone to charge uber, even if they're full hp. Obviously switch targets if someone who is hurt comes near since you get more uber charge that way.
NEVER go battle medic
Your default behaviour should be following a heavy or a soldier with your medibeam on them while you look around for spies and wounded teammates to heal.
Learn to take heavy's Russian cock like a champ but don't forget to give soldier's or demo's a little lick from time to time, especially if you have kritzkrieg.
Don't heal scouts, snipers or spies. Ever. If you're near a friendly sniper, one of you is playing the game wrong, healing a spy means you're either giving your him away or healing an enemy and he's making a YouTube video about your retardation and scouts are cunts so you let them die.
>>344201804
>>344201804
>>344212572
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Heavy_Lifter
>>344201804
>>344199432
I'm a pryo main and this rustled me, stop it anon
>>344212385
Damn that shit is nice
>>344212824
I don't play either class that often so here's my soldier loadout.
Pyro definitely deserves a full rebalance more, but I hope Heavy still gets minor fixes too. It's pretty fucking lazy of them to not fix BOTH classes.
>>344212645
>>344212785
How does an item like that get past quality control? The concept is great but the model is hideous.
>>344212670
>Play spy
>Get a few good picks and barely manage to escape
>Need heals
>Medic refuses
Thanks
>>344212957
Why would you keep the helmet?
So...what the deal now?
Is it coming out today or not because of the patch notes.
>still no update
are they seriously going to drag this out until tomorrow?
>>344212985
Read the blog post.
>>344212385
>holiday punch
>>344212957
*tips fedora*
>>344213019
Valve really don't care about that. There are tons of items that clip like crazy or are just plain ugly.
>>344213029
Press your invisibility button and eat a health pack.
You know the map layouts, right?
>>344212359
Best promotional item in the history of TF2
Prove me wrong
>>344213030
I like it. I don't like the original hood.
>>344213128
M'lady.
pyro because he is currently one of the weakest characters
heavy has more opportunities to be useful
what is he playing /v/?
>>344212957
>That rocket launcher name
Holy autism Batman
>>344213291
First of all, dead ringer. Second off, it'd just be easier for the medic to heal me for two seconds so I don't have to waste 30 seconds walking to and from the nearest health pack
>>344213019
Don't even get me started on shitty quality control. You can tell he was really struggling to find enough polygons for this one.
>>344201804
>wearing cosmetics
not only is it a massive fuck about to trade/buy all the cosmetics you want, but most cosmetics are shit anyway
pure stock is way more fun, i think it may actually help me get more kills because hatfags underestimate me
Do i have any good loadouts?
>>344213417
Fire Emblem
>>344212359
What?
>>344202287
I got you fAm
>>344213535
>DR
Real spies don't get hit
>>344213417
he's playing a super famicon but not only is there no cartridge in the slot, but there is also no cord connecting his controller
as usual pyro is in his own world
>>344211783
Don't just heal a single player if you can help it, uber charges faster if you heal non-overhealed players.
Pop it, don't drop it.
Become proficient in the art of the crossbow.
>>344213470
''Sun tzu said that!'' -Soldier, Meet the Soldier.
I just thought it fits since Soldier loves Sun 'Zoo'.:c
>be valve employee
>shipping out the update today
>should be finishing up the balance changelog
>too busy browsing /tf2g/
what do
>best cosmetics for every class
>full moon / halloween only
Why even bother posting loadouts?
Fuck time-sensitive cosmetics. Fuck unusuals.
>>344213801
HIROOOOOOOO
>>344213801
woah
>>344213801
>>344213838
just use a eternaween if it bothers you that much.
>>344213693
>Wants to die every time Pablo2007 walks around the corner with his phlog mindlessly turned on
Whatever you say
>>344212359
>mfw D44M added an option for centered weapons
We need more centered weapons in games.
>>344213801
Sunzu also said that your mum's really fat
>>344213815
>/tf2g/
Get out while you still can
>>344213963
must not be mindless if it kills dumbass spies that wait near corners
>>344214024
I play TF2 to distract myself from that fact. Thanks, stranger.
>>344213963
DR is literally gimping yourself man. Unless it's payload I guess.
>>344213587
>said the alt-account fag
Just do we know what sort of people play TF2 nowadays
>>344212957
>retarded ugly cosmetics with no cohesive color scheme or theme
>expensive kill-count weapon with incredibly autistic name
>>344213310
>got a custom image of his ugly loadout drawn, probably paid real money for it
>>344213801
>actually admits to having autism
Competitive mode will not save this game, nothing will
![9437d98e9f[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4WoyFQp.jpg "9437d98e9f[1].jpg")
Is this an acceptable use of lime paint?
>>344213838
fucking Immobile Suit and Plutonidome
>>344214083
I wasn't waiting I was trying to get behind the combo STOP ASSUMING IM BAD REEEEEEEEEE
when the FUCK is this dropping, Valve? GABE YOU FAT LARD PRESS THE FUCKING UPDATE BUTTON
>>344214223
dumb frogposter
>>344201804
Reminds me I should really sell my collection, but I don't want Gaben monopoly money since I dumped Steam ages ago. But then again the prices tanked and you have to hand over your personal information to them to even do trades in a timely matter now.
Then again, The merryweather is a nice hat.
>>344214223
Holy shit, pepe is still a thing ?
The patriot peak is just a better team captain
>>344214223
fuck off ifunny frog
>>344214223
I thought it has some sorta theme to it. It's a winter soldier. I love the look of the cosmetics, sure others might find it a bit dull or what have you.
How does that relate to autism anyway? I mean, does knowing about Sun Tzu correlate to autism?I drew that image, actually. Not my best but I love the look of my soldier. I also made pic related.
>>344214620
That's pretty good anon
>>344213838
>Fuck time-sensitive cosmetics. Fuck unusuals
Fuck Valve for not letting you stack any hats over each other.
>>344214620
No matter what you say the helmet looks fucking retarded, nobody wears a helmet on top of a hood.
>>344198317
>What else needs to be rebalanced?
Soldier. He needs to get all the nerfs he's avoided since that first wave right after release, while everyone else who inconvenienced him got beaten with the nerf bat until they were unrecognizable.
If Soldier finally takes it on the chin I may actually reinstall this garbage game, but with Robin Walker in charge I seriously doubt I need to worry about that ever happening.
>>344214812
Soldier does
>>344214220
>alt-account
>for a f2p game that has no matchmaking system or any way to smurf
>>344214836
but with Robin Walker in charge I seriously doubt I need to worry about that ever happening.
Robin didn't abandon the team years ago ? I'm pretty sure that he's working on Dota 2
>>344214742Th-Thanks!
>>344214812
Different strokes for different folks, man.
I think it looks just fine.
>>344214812
Soldier does.
Just leave, anon.
>>344213940
>paying to use untradeable cosmetics
>>344198317
Pyro needs it far more than the Heavy does. Pyro is literally useless at ranges longer than midrange, and he can be pretty easily outclassed at closer ranges as well. Airblast has some damn utility, but it's not enough to actually make him good.
I'm just afraid that Valve will shove some broken ass weapons on him and call it a day.
>>344214982
Whatever helps you sleep faggot.
The only thing I want is for the Sydney Sleeper to get its immunity to headshots that was removed from the Croc Set. Is it to much to ask?
>>344215010
Isn't the TF2 "team" just a handful of interns now?
yall got me hyped
i loaded the game and everything
and there is no update
wat the fug
>>344213838
>immobile suit is halloween only when it has nothing to do with halloween
>coffin kit and wraith wrap aren't
make up your fucking minds
>>344215230
I'm pretty sure the retards who are in charge of balancing shit look at videos like this and assume this is average pyro gameplay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDk06272k7s
>>344215450
Soon, Anon. Soon.
>>344215010
No he oversees both.
>>344215450
Why do you think we're just sitting in this thread killing time?
>>344215450
15 MINUTES
>>344215441
Technically speaking, there aren't "teams" designated to work on a specific game, any VALVe employee can work in whatever they want to.
>>344215567
>Automatic doors open and close, but no one passes through them
>Your teleporter is used, but nothing appears on the other end
REDDIT MEMES
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>>344215721
>gif
I aint clicking shit
THIS IS NOT A DRILL
NEATO UPDATE INBOUND
THIS IS NOT A DRILL
NEATO UPDATE INBOUND
THIS IS NOT A DRILL
NEATO UPDATE INBOUND
THIS IS NOT A DRILL
NEATO UPDATE INBOUND
THIS IS NOT A DRILL
NEATO UPDATE INBOUND
>>344215759
But "neato" was started by a Valve employee.
>>344215450
not here yet
it's definitely coming today though, it literally says on the major update history page Meet your Match was on july 7th so its just a matter of time anon
>>344215824
>mfw
>>344215759
>neato system update
What did they mean by this?
