What did he mean by this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rciyCHa6J4o
>>344197916
1. Yahtzee is a casual faggot.
2. Literally all vidya "journalists" were sucking Infinite's cock, so might as well get on the bandwagon to fit in with your peers.
I generally like Yahtzee but I have no fucking idea how he could justify liking Infinite.
>best of a generation
how on earth could you think that, infinite is an objective step down from bioshock 1&2 gameplay wise that cant even be argued
>>344198753
>Yahtzee is a casual faggot.
kek, yet /v/ was idolizing him in a thread 8 hours ago
Wait a minute, that card.
>>344198702
In my humble opinion, player agency is not something I worry about, as lack of it can be mitigated by a great, enthralling story and atmosphere.
Something that Infinite completely lacked.
>>344197916
They're probably coming out with a remaster soon so they're paying "journalists" to promote the game.
>>344198985
Did you watch the video? He said Bioshock was better than System Shock 2, BioShock 2 was fucking garbage, and Infinite surpassed all.
>>344198987
Just because he's a casual faggot doesn't mean he's incapable of making good points or that he's always wrong.
>>344199089
Wait a minute, that video.
Yahtzee's smarter than you. Who are you? A memespouter?
>>344199089
Top Tier puzzle right there
>>344199248
hello, yahtzee
>>344199248
Yahtzee loved Infinite but gave a solid 'meh' to The Last of Us. You'd think he'd be less of a hypocrite, as Infinite, design wise, is basically a proto-Last of Us with more shooting.
>>344199118
yes and all of that is wrong.
>>344199232
Yeah, same with /v/. The overwhelming majority, from critics to users to e-celebs, says Infinite is a great game.
>>344199361
Te meme makes no sense. It wasn't supposed to be a puzzle. There are no puzzles in the game.
>>344198987
Lemme break it down for you
>Things I like = objectively great
>Things I don't like = casual trash
>Cognitive dissonance, what's that?
It happens all over 4chan, but /v/ is definitely the worst for it. They become so emotionally invested in these games, they're pretty much identical to the SJWs they so often deride.
>>344199473
Remember that Gamespot re-review that gave it a 4?
>inb4 vidya journalism
Too low even for this game, but the general consensus of non-4chan is that the game is good, but way overrated when it was first released.
>>344199453
And your opinion is fact. Okay. I guess we should all listen to you.
>>344199631
>implying /v/ is one person
>>344197916
Yahtzee is a comedian first and reviewer second.
His opinions are usually ridiculous or pretty poorly informed.
>>344199608
I don't even know what it was suppose to be, it didn't establish the tone, setting, characters or the plot. It didn't teach the players any gameplay mechanics like moving or combat. It didn't do anything but patronize the player.
>>344199473
The masses have bad taste
This was already known
>>344199835
No I'm not, it's clearly a general trend over the whole board.
>>344199893
It was just a random code given to open the door. Why are you thinking so hard about it? The original Bioshock didn't even have anything, just walking and watching noninteractive cutscenes
So he praises Bioshit writing, praises how XCX's localization wasn't fucked, and trying shilling his shit book eons ago? Not that great of a review btw, and if you see /v/ praising, it already confirms how bad /v/'s tastes is.
>>344198987
probably confusing 4chan with r eddit again
>>344199631
I know we're pretty polarised about games, but for fucks sakes Bioshock Infinite didn't do anything right
In terms of a Bioshock game, the infinitely respawning enemies, the 2 weapon limit and the enemy types were way worse
In terms of a cover based shooter, which the fucking shield made it to be, it's worse than any of the CoDs or Halos that were out at the time.
I have no idea who finds Bioshock Infinite fun, people who typically do, havn't played the first or second one, and for sure hadn't played System Shock 2
>someone brings up Yahtzee
>can't help but think about that time he sperged out over Gabe's definition of "game of the year"
>>344199909
Oh and /v/ has better taste?
I didnt even finish infinite, shit story, and 0 difficulty.
>>344200481
>>can't help but think about that time he sperged out over Gabe's definition of "game of the year"
wait, what video was that?
>>344200125
The general trend is that /v/ fucking hates Infinite.
>>344200629
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QMYnK_va44&t=40m
>>344197916
He meant that he's a much better comedian than gamer
>>344197916
Bioshock Infinite was garbage. I'm not even talking about the 3deep5me infinite realities bullshit story, just the gameplay was so fucking repetitive and tedious. OH BOY BULLET SPONGES OH BOY TWO WEAPON LIMIT OH BOY VIGORS THAT ARE THE FUCKING SAME
I still can't believe I actually played the whole damn thing
>>344200529
>That list
Those games are actually either really good, or decent enough that I can understand why people love it.
>>344199089
i could never get past this part
>>344197916
Yahtzee is basically just reddit meme
He is a shitty reviewer that people watch because he hates everything xD
>>344200234
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/344130965/#344149180
back to >>>/reddit/ with you
>shits on almost every game that comes out
>finally likes one and it's an actually shit one
>>344199089
Wait a minute, that blood...
Is not liking bioshock infinities a meme?
I had fun when I played it, went through it like 4 times.
>>344199835
/v/ has become an echo chamber, basucally the same as three people with all the circle jerk
>>344197916
he meant
>I'm a game reviewer and I loath taking time to play games so I'm happy this game let me get on with it without really having to try or pay attention.
>>344200354
Fuck the enemies, but I never found the 2 weapons limit that bad, because I was trying to use vigors as much as possible.
Agree with everything else though
>>344200821
>Team Fortress 2
>Deus Ex
>Mother 3
>Chrono Trigger
>Half Life 2
>all in the top 10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpCv12q6fFI
You literally can't die in Chrono Trigger
>>344200529
>Ocarina above Majora
>Gold/Silver and Red/Blue but no Platinum
>No Metroid Fusion
>>344200747
>he's a much better comedian than gamer
But he's completley unfunny and the most he probably has done is made someone smirk for sharing the same opinion.
>>344201160
stop posting your shitty videos
>>344201045
His favorite games are Killer 7, Silent Hill 2, and SotC though.
>>344201230
Yeah, but the original statement is still true
>>344201284
Those are games from like, 10 years ago. You can lose your will to try in 10 years.
>>344200734
>yahtzee can't comprehend that someone can have a different favorite game for a year and different game of the year
Holy shit, how can't he understand that you can have a stupid action popcorn movie as your favorite but acknowledge a well made better written and all star cast film deserves to be the best picture of the year?
>>344201279
What's wrong? You had your shit taste questioned?
>>344201048
I played on the hardest difficulty
There are points where I had 0 ammo fighting bosses, something that I never experienced in Bioshock 1 & 2.
He means he values aesthetic presentation and the concept of the game over its actual gunplay, level design, and good writing.
>>344201429
>Holy shit, how can't he understand that you can have a stupid action popcorn movie as your favorite but acknowledge a well made better written and all star cast film deserves to be the best picture of the year?
lol
>>344201441
No, I actually somewhat agree with the titular point of the video. Half Life 2 isn't a great sequel. It was really just a glorified techdemo.
However, that doesn't mean you should keep posting that video because it's kinda shit.
>>344201348
>>344201529
>I like when a game sniffs its own farts instead of it being solidly designed
>>344201186
>>Ocarina above Majora
There is literally nothing wrong with that
Link to the Past, Wind Waker, and Twilight Princess should all be above Majora's Mask as well
>>344199089
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_u18_BKczg
>>344198753
>Yahtzee has an opinion that I don't like
>he's automatically a casual
>>344199724
>
I didnt say it was fact but feel free to be mad for someone elses sake
>>344201429
Because Yahtzee is literally autistic
>>344201160
>TF2
Good casual Multiplayer FPS that a shitton of people liked, I have no idea why you're bringing that up
>Deus Ex
Everyone loves Deus Ex
>Mother 3
I thought Mother 3 was a solid RPG, I personally loved the rhythm attacks in the game and the enemy types
>Chrono Trigger
It's a pretty cool RPG regarding time
>HL2
I agree HL1 is way better, but it had cool sections
If you're bitching about these games, I have no idea how you're defending BS:I
>>344201717
Read my post again, I'm saying Bioshock Infinite was shit and only the visuals and concept were good
>>344201830
No, he's casual because he plays console games only
I had fun with it.
>>344201160
>You literally can't die in Chrono Trigger
How does this make the game bad?
>>344202196
>fun = the game was good
I hate you people
>>344200529
>2. Mother 3
>Paper Mario
>Halo
>Mass Effect 2
>Halo 3
why am I not surprised
>>344201982
Not that guy but
>TF2 should be judged by its awful current state, not by how it was pre-2011
>Deus Ex has awful gameplay and it's story is overrated
>Mother 3 has fucking terrible combat and boss design
>Half Life 2 was a pretty physics tech demo with shit gunplay, awful vehicle sections, and no challenge at all
Chrono Trigger is legit tho
Who gives a shit what a fat snarky neckbeard thinks? I know I don't.
>>344197916
>Person who thinks Nier had a shit soundtrack
>People actually care about his opinion
>>344200968
Oh shut the fuck up.
The code was only written there so players could progress through the demo easily. The devs addressed this and even said that it would exactly the same as you found it in 1994.
>>344198702
That image always gets me.
>>344197916
Yahtzee wore out in like 2012 at the latest.
>>344198987
>>344199631
>/v/ is one person that I'm totally separate and better than.
I'd consider suicide if I were you.
>>344202613
They did that because they havn't programmed the audio logs right?
>>344201982
>TF2
low skill ceiling with cancerous business model
>Deus Ex
massively flawed with clunky mechanics, stilted dialogue, and hamfisted message
>Mother 3
Brought no significant innovations to the rpg genre and is barely a game
>Chrono Trigger
You literally cannot die and its core mechanics are shallow compared to predecessors in its own genre such as Final Fantasy III and V
>HL2
glorified self-masturbatory tech demo with padded and repetitive mission structure
If you believe any of these games deserve to be in the top 10 let alone top 100 of all time, you need to kill yourself right fucking now or go back to >>>/reddit/. You have absolutely no right being a board of game enthusiasts and you shouldn't get your favorite game list from cancerous gaming journos.
>>344202596
Funny joke, Anon, nobody thinks Nier's soundtrack is shit. It's literally not possible.
>>344200529
>posting a 5 year old list
>it's not even that bad when you consider that tf2 hadn't been ruined yet
>>344201160
>You literally can't die in Chrono Trigger
>>344202292
GAMEPLAY
GAMEPLAY, you neanderthal
>>344202361
Where in his reply did he say because it was fun, it was good?
He just says that he had fun with it. That's it.
>>344202798
They're not a part of my top 10, maybe some of them are a part of my top 100, but the poster who posted this list, implied that these games were as bad as Bioshock Infinite
>>344199102
I respect your opinion but to me agency is the most important part of a game. Taking away agency to serve plot is something that has to be done carefully.
>>344201160
I'm only like 7 minutes into this video, and while I agree with some of the stuff he's talking about, I'm beginning to think that he's legitimately autistic because of the shitfit around "awkward pauses" that exist in natural speech patterns.
>Alyx gets done saying something
>*AWKWARD PAUSE* pops up on screen because she stops talking to walk inside an elevator and press a button before turning back to the player
>Says a sentence, with the natural inflection a period lends itself to
>*AWKWARD PAUSE*
If this is your video and you're shilling it, you need to chill the fuck out about the way people naturally talk. You even do it when you get done making a point in the video.
>>344202875
see
http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/39868/t818474-way-easy/
>>344201730
Wind Waker I agree with you on. Link to the Past wasn't my kind of game, but I can respect your opinion. Twilight Princess is hot garbage.
>>344197916
That we should all lose a massive amount of respect for him he accumulated over the years in which he righteously riffed on bad games or objectionable parts of games.
What really irks me is that he can´t even properly explain why he thinks it is so good.
Which should make him think about it until he either finds those reasons or comes to the conclusion that he must have been blinded by shiny veneer.
But no, nothing.
>>344198985
Also in every other respect except the "cute girl" factor.
>>344203196
>maybe some of them are a part of my top 100
If any of those games are in your top 100, you need to off yourself immediately from listening to cancerous gaming journos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_considered_the_best
See this list? This is you, you casual piece of shit.
>>344203034
>>344200913
>one post is representative of all of /v/
I don't even know how to respond to this. Do you have literal brain damage? You should probably see a doctor.
>>344203719
That thread had 195 unique posters, and the majority were dickriding yahtzee
>>344202798
what games do you like
>>344203924
rFactor, Command and Conquer, Civilization 2, Virtua Tennis 2, Seaman, Crystal Castles, Virtua Racing, Super Hang-on, Roadblasterz, Quake 3 Arena, Lemmings
>>344202798
Please enlighten us with your superior tastes.
>>344199374
He hates consoles though.
I remember he was reviewing Halo Wars and he was complaining because he ran out of time on a mission. I forget the exact time but it was something about how a ship had to escape in 15 minutes or everyone dies or something. He runs out of time just outside the ship and whines about how dumb of the game it is that they could not just wait ten seconds for him to make it. That was about when I stopped watching. Like time limits are some alien concept.
>>344203918
Just skimming the OP replies shows that half the thread was shitting on him. Hell after the post you linked you pass 3 posts shitting on him before you find a single post defending him.
The thread was clearly split between people who hate him, people who like him, and people who tolerate him more than other e-celebs.
You're clearly a fucking retard who lacks high reasoning.
>>344200163
(You)
I love that /v/ is contrarian enough to think hate Yahtzee, who is literally /v/: The Person, because he has some dumb opinions on several games while there are hundreds of people who are apologists for modern trash like Overwatch, and Star Fox Zero.
He's not a casual or a hardcore or a hardcore pretending to be a casual or any of that shit, he's just a pussy. He goes with the flow. Remember how he shit on Dark Souls and then when it became memegame of the year and everybody was sucking its dick he backtracked and said it was great and he just didn't understand it at first? Same thing with GTA4, said it's good then when the hype had passed said it was shit.
>>344198702
amazing how such a simple image completely destroys Bioshock Infinite
>>344201186
>No Metroid Fusion
I fail to see the problem.
>>344200529
Most of those games are shit. No wonder /v/ likes shitty meme games.
>Taking him seriously
He's a comedian, and shouldn't be treated as a legitimate reviewer.
>>344197916
>all the literal teenagers who cant handle another person having an opinion that is different than theirs
Who cares if Infinite is shit, why does Yahtzee liking it upset you niggers so much?
>>344201160
I'll bite, how does Deus Ex not belong in a top 10? More importantly, how is it more deserving of a meme arrow than Morrowind?
>>344204934
>people arent allowed to change their minds, EVER!!!!!!!
Also he never initially played Dark Souls on release, Gabe pressured him to play it later cause he knew hed like it.
>>344197916
>hamfisted babbys-first-morality-play plot
>clunky shooting mechanics
>decent art direction
a recipe for GOAT OF ALL TIEM!!!1
>>344205289
It's a meme game.
>>344197916
Zero Punctuation is a discount game theory
>>344204898
Forgive us for not achieving the enlightened perspective of a ninth dan fart-sniffer
>>344205636
Morrowind? I agree.
>>344202798
still haven't found a game with better level design as Deus Ex
>>344205843
They're both shitty meme games that fucking retards on /v/ for some reason likes to shove down everyone's throats.
>>344205941
Play Arx Fatalis then come back, reddit.
>>344205636
>>344206006
I couldn't imagine being such a petulant child. Is daily life difficult for you?
>>344201742
WAIT
>>344206394
Arx Fatalis didn't have clunky mechanics?
>>344202443
>>344202798
>Deus Ex has awful gameplay and it's story is overrated
>massively flawed with clunky mechanics, stilted dialogue, and hamfisted message
Opinions discarded
I genuinely enjoyed Infinite, despite the ending being very stupid. I went in with very low expectations and managed to have a good time, all things considered. The hand-stabbing thing was pretty damn neat.
That said, I honestly find Bioshock 1 just excruciatingly boring and droll once you've gotten the twist. The magic wears off in subsequent playthroughs, and it just feels so empty.
Bioshock 2 was a lot more engaging, but fell to the same problem the first one had--once you know the story, it quickly dries out and becomes very dull. Even worse you can't back track. The DLC was fantastic, though.I've never played the System Shock games, and I'm afraid due to their age and the fact I didn't get into PC games until 2009 I'll unfairly hate it because of the graphics and UI. Everyone loves and hypes the games, but I'm just too chickenshit because I'm afraid my taste will be too shit to enjoy them.
>>344199102
I don't think that's true, Uncharted has good writing but absolutely no sense of danger at all.
>>344206791
I found Bioshock Infinite to be excruciatingly boring.
I don't know how you can say 1 is and Infinite isn't, when 1 has so much more going on.
>>344206551
>A BLOO BLOO BLOO SOMEONE DISAGREES WITH ME ON THE INTERNET
kys
>>344204216
I bet I'd kick your ass in Quake 3 and Virtua Tennis
>>344204934
He didn't review dark Souls at all what are you talking about? He shat on demon's Souls because he was too terrible to play it and had the same experience with DaS until someone took his hand and explained him how to play it.
>>344207009
Disagreeing implies arguments. You just spouted out "meme" like a fucking retard.
>>344207143
He shat on Demon's Souls? The one true Souls game after Bloodborne? He clearly is a nintoddler.
>>344206791
The Bioshock series has added nothing to video games except the fact that it can be used to detect plebs. The series as a whole just isnt very good but it attracts pseuds because it of the "ambitious" writing.
Bioshock 1 is the only relatively good one and its still shit.
Infinite was fun
>>344207327
He'd probably go back to it now and like it but he can't be arsed to plug in his PS3.
>>344207354
it was alright until the zombie ghost part
>>344206943
Like? The setting is extremely passive outside of the batshit splicers. Ryan waits for you to reach him, as does Fontaine. The most that happens is an alarm goes off and you have to either fight a wave or two, or escape. That's it. The only remotely engaging part of the game was the very beginning, and Fort Frolic. That's it. Post Fort Frolic the game becomes extremely unfun and just petulant horseshit.
You know what would have made 1 and 2 better? If they were in the same game. If Lamb was an opposite of Ryan you had to handle on top of Ryan's madness, with Atlas being the 'right' third party. The mix of levels and aesthetics would have made the game infinitely better and more memorable beyond "Would You Kindly?", the actual variety of enemies that would have existed would have made the gameplay a little more engaging, and Sophia Lamb wouldn't have felt so horribly hamfisted and forced. Remove Eleanor and that shit completely from it, and it's good.
>>344207480
>Not having every Playstation plugged in to enjoy quality Sony gaming
what a fucking pleb
>>344207284
>muh arguments
Consider suicide.
>>344202932
You keep saying that, but do you actually know what that means?
>>344206791
System Shock 2 is really good, though
>>344207504
>The setting is extremely passive
The dynamic of big daddies, splicers and automated security systems is 100 times more interesting than anything that happens in Infinite.
>>344206791
SS2 only requires you to get familiar with the HUD/inventory system. You press tab and that allows you to move items within using your mouse. You press tab again and you're back to mouse look.
SS1 is similar in that regard, at least the enhanced edition is, but the game suffers from some dated elements or things like level design/music being incredibly hit and miss. Play it only once you're done with SS2 and want more. In fact, it's better to play SS2 without knowing the backstory as it'll make things more interesting as you try to puzzle everything together.
I honestly cannot explain how absolutely fantastic the atmosphere in SS2 is... though early Bioshock was also phenomenal and if you didn't think that way, you might not be as impressed with SS2 as I was.
>>344207347
Bioshock had ambitious writing in the sense that it commented on video game procedurality, something that System Shock 2 also did. I wouldn't call Bioshock 2 pretentious, Infinite yes, only because of its plotholes, but Bioshock 2 at least had the best gameplay out of all Bioshock games.
>>344207642
If I am not given deep nuanced mechanics with challenging gameplay, then there is no point in playing the "game". And no story will change that. Go read a book.
>>344207624
Do you really think acting like this makes you look like you fit in here?
>>344205204
This, I don't get how Yahtzee is either /v/erified or casual scum depending on the thread of the minute.
>>344202798
>barely a game
uh
>brought no significant innovations
uh
You say this, then
>rFactor, Command and Conquer, Civilization 2, Virtua Tennis 2, Seaman, Crystal Castles, Virtua Racing, Super Hang-on, Roadblasterz, Quake 3 Arena, Lemmings
You serious m8
>>344206791
Son, this is /v/, you know you're not allowed to go against the general consensus and have fun with something.
>>344207887
That doesn't answer my question in any way, shape or form. It's almost as if you didn't read my question at all.
>>344197916
>British
>Fast forward to talk at 170bpm
>Stupid people think hes smart and cant be refuted
This dude is a fucking moron.
Best in 2013? Its was subpar as hell
Didn't he also try to shit on TLOU? This garbage ass reviewer.
>>344207726
At first, but it stops being interesting very quickly. They were neat, but that novelty quickly wears off halfway through the game. Do you think "OH FUCK I MESSED UP" when a stray shot accidentally pings a Rosie? Fuck no you think "Oh for FUCKS SAKE" and get annoyed. Don't even fucking pretend you don't react like that, fucking everyone does.
I'm not praising Infinite for doing anything different. I'm not praising Infinite for its narrative (lol), either. I'm saying Infinite was enjoyable to me. The setting felt a lot more alive, the brief moments where everyone in sight wasn't on a 100% megahuge murder boner was really fucking nice, the dynamic between Booker and Elizabeth was a welcome difference from being stark alone in a """"survival horror"""" with people constantly yelling at you through an audio receiver, and stakes felt a lot higher because for once you weren't just fighting for your own damned hide. It made up for its flaws, imo.
>>344204898
Both good games. Liking Silent Hill 2 doesn't give you a free pass.
>>344197916
>It's a "People posting on /v/ can't reconcile the fact that a critic they like has an opinion they disagree with" episode
Calm down you fags, there are more worthwhile things to get upset over than this.
>>344204704
His problem was that he had completely cleared the map of enemies, and the soldiers were essentially unkillable because there were no enemies left but there was still a timer
>>344201859
I thought he was just British.
>>344201160
>You literally can't die in Chrono Trigger
Wait what?
>>344201160
This video is so shit. Not because the points are bad, but the whiny fuck making the video gets so fucking irritated and angry over such trivial shit. You're reading a script, dude, calm down and take your meds.
>>344208125
I love that /v/ claims Yahtzee is a casual despite the fact that he plays 40+ games a year
>>344208126
>Virtua Tennis 2
To be fair, that game was deceptively addictive. I had no idea a fucking tennis game could've been this good.
>>344208868
Is that because you have never played tennis
>>344202798
>TF2
>low skill ceiling
Good way to say you never played it. MGE me right now and I'm going to kick your fucking ass with every single class.
>>344208786
He plays 40 games a year and has absolutely shit taste. That's a funny way to live, anon.
>>344199248
I don't even know who this eceleb is, but he's clearly a shithead if he praised Infinite. I at the very least have better taste than he
>>344208490
Neither of them are good but okay
>>344208685
People on the internet will take you more seriously if you pretend (I hope it's pretend) to get angry.
Not just angry, if you're condescending, smug and exasperated you have to be intelligent, and thus correct
>>344208126
All of those games were bold, innovative, deep, and emphasized gameplay over story.
Play more games before you start spouting your casual opinions.
>>344208271
TLOU is boring cinematic trash that aptly got described as "the video game equivalent pf Oscar bait" in the review you're thinking of.
>>344201160
>he uses the hd models in hl1
reeeeee
>>344208995
You realize that he has /v/'s taste almost to fucking t, right?
>>344208929
I actually did for a few years, now I occasionally play Squash. The better question is, what does my experience with tennis have to do with this matter? Do you also ask FPS players whether or not they've been to a firing range?
Itt: N\v\idiots unanimously hate a great game for no fucking reason and are baffled other people like it.
>>344208453
So in other words
>In Bioshock 1 I fuck up a lot so that annoys me
>in Bioshock infinite the game doesn't let me fuck up so it's great!
>>344209089
Seaman, Lemmings and 3 sequels in pre-existing franchises with very little substantial change in the "gameplay" you worship were bold, innovative and deep
m8 pls
>>344208685
>gets so fucking irritated and angry over such trivial shit
isn't that what you're doing, /v/?
>>344200529
Yes. That chart has decent to very good games on it.
If you think infinite belongs on that list you should probably stop browsing this site.
>>344198702
All this image tells me is that you pretty much just care about the "experience" and "immersion" aspect of videogames. Why the fuck should I care about picking up cans and throwing baseballs?
>>344209110
And /v/ has shit taste.
Of course you fucking like him.
>>344199102
>>344203218
Did you idiots mean "urgency"?
>>344209210
First of all
>N/v/idiots
What the fuck is this?
Second, are you really gonna make me go all the way to Youtube so I can post the Matthewmatosis video?
>>344209262
All of those franchises were successful, by the way. So it's the opposite of "bold".
Roadblasters is a better videogame than TF2, Deus Ex, Mother 3, Chrono Trigger and Half Life 2.
>>344209096
>A game with good cinematics
>"You can't trick me I know its bad in some aspect."
But he thinks the game that devolves into tunnel vision for an unsatisfying "muh epic mind fuck" game was the generation's best game?
Like I said, he's a fucking moron.
>>344209262
Nice way to ignore Crystal Castles, Virtua Racing, Command and Conquer, and Roadblasters. But yes, each game I mentioned were innovative with deep mutli-layered mechanics. Mother 3 has nothing. It's just a story with no innovation given to the rpg genre. You 're better off playing Final Fantasy 3.
>>344209110
>he has /v/'s taste almost to fucking t, right?
/v/ doesn't like Bioshock Infinite.
>>344209407
Yeah dude, why would I want to be able to throw the ball in an FPS. QTEs are obviously superior. And yeah who gives a fuck about immersion, why would I want to be engrossed in a video game?
>>344209229
I'm just here trying to discuss my personal issues with the first two Bioshock games that Infinite doesn't quite have itself because people wanted to know.
I don't have 1 and 2. I love 1 and 2. But I've played them enough where once I hit the Medical Pavilion the magic washes off and I realize why I don't replay it really much anymore. There's no motivation--especially when you remember you work all that way just to have that extremely shitty Fontaine boss battle at the end.
Bioshock 1 is way too fucking short, and due to the issues in the last half of the game, this completely obliterates any ideal of playing through when you know you've passed the best points. From there it's the familiar downhill slog.
I'm fully aware others have different opinions on this, and I respect that. Does that make this any better? Knowing I'm not putting Infinite up on a pedestal while knocking 1 and 2 to the ground? Because I'm not.
Well he isn't completely wrong. Bioshock Infinite was annoyingly pretentious but the sky rail and vigors made gameplay pretty cool. I honestly don't see why /v/ shits on the gameplay so much. there is a lot to nitpick like not being able to carry all the weapons but I don't see how it could ruin combat.
>>344209430
I like him cause he triggers teenagers like you who cant handle banter about video games.
>>344209110
You realize that /v/ isn't one person, right?
>>344209837
>almost
>>344209728
You're better off playing a game which is exactly the same as the one you're criticizing, and worse, considering it includes no rhythm mechanics to change it up.
Innovation in numbered sequels is by definition negligible, m8.
You are telling me about deep multi-layered mechanics but then also praising arcade games.
>>344209891
The motivation to play infinite ends at
>wait a minute that card
>>344209871
The point is, those things are unnecessary and add nothing substantial to the game. You might as well wine that there are not enough destructible environments in ninja gaiden.
>>344210007
You realize what a "general consensus" is right?
>>344210215
Show me some numbers on that, my negro.
>>344210128
Final Fantasy 3 revolutionized the jrpg genre with its deeply layered job system. Mother 3 did nothing substantially new.
>>344209437
No you idiot, agency. As in the ability to act independently/freely, without the game forcing you down a specific path.
>>344209712
calm down you double-nigger, you don't need to take him liking a game you didn't and disliking a game you did as a personal offense.
>>344201160
I'm about 7 minutes into this video, and while I agree with some of the things he talks about, I'm starting to think he's legitimately autistic because of his shitfit around "awkward pauses" that exist in natural speech patterns.
>>344210320
Oh come on, you know damn well what a hive mind is, cut the shit anon
>>344209976
2 weapon limit is a crucial gameplay change for the series, saying is a nitpick is an understatement.
>>344200529
E.Y.E is not on this list so it's fucking fake.
>>344210128
>You are telling me about deep multi-layered mechanics but then also praising arcade games
nuance and execution, not to mention context for each title and its genre
>>344210215
You realize you don't have a general consensus to present, right?
Though I will be the first of many to allow you to speak on behalf of all of /v/, we needed a leader that isn't manly tears.
>>344209871
>he doesn't like novelty bullshit so he must like QTEs because that's what I don't like and he disagrees with me!
Half Life 2 can be a great game at parts, but it's pretty obvious that the "immersion" is another way of saying you're a simpleton easily entertained by shallow, by-the-numbers spectacle.
>>344210492
>Stop telling me to back up what I say!
>>344209407
Did you miss the entire bottom half of the image or are you legitimately that stupid?
>>344209437
no, learn to speak english
>>344210603
>Interactivity is "shallow" in a medium whose main appeal is interactivity.
>>344210096
I know, you almost had a point.
>>344199102
i get what youre saying but removal of agency is a spectrum, and on the far end you end up with a movie or tv series, so we have to ask ourselves how far away we're willing to stray from the concept of a game.
>>344210630
No, I just didn't mention it. Duh.
>>344210492
Fuck off, you need hard information to back up shit like what you said. Open a strawpoll or something and then talk to me about what the general consensus is.
>>344210517
It was made before EYE even came out.
>>344210616
>PCs are le Master Race
>Censorship is bad and Nintendo should stop
>The Wii U is the only console worth owning
>shooters should be played on console
>OOT, HL2 and DUDE Sex are some of the besy games ever made
These are hive mind opinions. Stop acting like you dont know that /v/ is an echo chamber
>>344210174
>>344210603
Immersion means you forgot that you're playing a game. It's a key indicator of a game not being shit. And yeah, that guy is saying he prefers QTEs to throwing a fucking baseball in a first person shooter, where you throw projectiles.
>>344198702
having played neither, i have to ask: is this cherrypicked? seems like it could easily be when these two scenarios, no matter how important or memorable, make up like 1% of their respective games. are these examples representative?
>>344210824
Who are you even replying to?
>>344209985
You like him because he's a piece of shit sciolistic retard that other dumb fucks love to emulate to feel like they have good opinions.
I don't hate his shitty opinions, I hate that he uses such basic childish methods to make himself sound smarter
>Fast rehearsed points said in a way with little holes in the description like done in persuasive messaging
>Cringey apathetic tone with referential jabs at games to make himself seem knowledgeable
You autistic little shit bags eat him up.
>>344210173
Fair enough, you either subscribe to the meme or genuinely feel the tone it set wasn't what you hoped it was and from there on didn't like the rest. That's fair.
>>344210409
That's not a revolution. That's an addition to a system which was rendered negligible because it's just tacked on. The rest of the game follows the exact same structure.
Here's a neat gameplay difference: In M3 you grind less than in FF3.
Completely ignoring your inexistent argument against stories in videogames, Mother 3 also actually "revolutionizes" the JRPG system with its rhythm-based system.
It makes the battle music, for just one example, not just background noise and actually incorporates it into the "gameplay" of the game, as opposed to just pretty background music.
Something which no Final Fantasy has ever done before or since.
>>344210985
Doesn't matter, fuckface. There should have been a Psyker around to tell /v/ about the splendor of E.Y.E.
>>344210991
>Immersion means you forgot that you're playing a game
Well what are you doing? Playing an interactive movie?
>>344210570
AKA "I like these games even though most of them can be accused with the exact same criticisms all of these popular games have. If I like these and dislike those extremely popular and well-received titles, people will think it's because I'm smart and have good taste."
>>344211107
guy, the Mother 3 is Mother 2.5.
Fuck off, get some taste.
>>344199089
Where do you get the swords???
>>344209096
TLoU is decent as a singleplayer game, and the multiplayer was godly.
>>344208453
Shit taste. Get out and get back to whatever bland, shallow entertainment you were previously consuming
>>344211029
You're always in control of your character in HL2. Even in the few cutscenes where you're getting exposition shoved down your throat, you can walk around the room, use your weapons, put traffic cones on people's heads.
Well excluding that one time you're tied up for obvious reasons.
Plus you're never really dragged across a corridor except the final mission where there is only one way forward.
>>344211394
t. Fellow Shitposter
>>344198702
>As a player, I controlled Booker's direct actions
What the fuck kind of statement is that? No shit, you do that for literally every playable character in every video game.
>>344211394
Each of my picks were original. The rest picked by /v/ are merely the most advertised. I'm not casual, I dig deep into mediums I enjoy. I study them, I breathe them. And I'm not going to have some snot-nosed low-fruit-hanging saliva-dripping slack-jawed cretin waltz into my medium and regurgitate to me what the best games are simply because he was pandered and fed to. Now fuck off and actually play some fucking games, you piece of shit.
>>344201160
>Read a book argument
Please tell me the last piece of literature you actually read. You could just as easily say "cinema doesn't need stories, it's about the moving pictures!"
>>344211951
Don't be deliberately stupid
>>344211108
Fuck off you weak kneed bitch.
>>344197916
>What did he mean by this?
He never said that.
>>344212086
He's right though. Infinite offers allot less control than it should.
>>344212027
Middlesex and Michael Chabon. Never question my reading habits.
>>344212086
Not him, but I think you're one who's deliberately stupid here
>>344197916
It's just another mediocre shooter with poor gunplay and a story that appeals to SJWs who hate whites
Ironic how he praises Bioshock yet the gameplay is basically the same as any military shooter, something he is vehemently against.
It wasn't a bad game, but it had the same thing as a lot of games where the trailers that got everyone hyped up for game aren't reflective of what the game-play was actually like. I was disappointed because it looked so cool.
Also, why is Comstock so much older than booker? In the original trailers you could actually see the resemblance.
>people taking the obvious bait
>not realizing it's the "Bayonetta 2 is a movie" shitposter
Come the fuck on, guys.
>>344212027
Games should be about gameplay in the same way that films should be more than a person sitting and reading a book to you. If you're not using the advantages of the medium, you're doing something wrong.
>>344201021
welcome to the internet
Although there is a bit of political message stuff at the start it all becomes very grey and ambiguous when you actually see the results of a vox populi revolution and the empahsis shifts more to the sci-fi multiverse stuff and emphasis on the characters own experiences in the middle of it, especially Elizabeth. Very few games have made me care about an escort character at all, Infinite made me damn near fall in love with one. Plus if youve ever played System shock then youll know that a bit of "casualization" was sorely needed to stop you from pulling out your own teeth in frustration after hitting quickload for the 57th fucking time that minute.
>>344212469
I revised my list now.
>>344206791
>droll
That word does not mean what you think it means.
>>344210505
Not really, you still have guns that you can shoot. Most of the weapons were just different versions of weapons you got early on so it isn't that disappointing that you can't have them all.
>>344212701
The waifu bait is strong.
>>344212701
>Infinite made me damn near fall in love with one
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
WHY IS THIS BOARD FULL OF SHITTERS? HAHAHAHAHA
>>344212349
>a story that appeals to SJWs who hate whites
The niggers in the game ended up slaughtering innocent people though.
>>344212875
I liked her from a story standpoint AND a gameplay standpoint. That's rarely accomplished in games.
>>344212472
How does Mother 3 have a story that would best fit another medium? Games about going on an adventure and fighting weird monsters is an idea that could work in anime or a manga, but actually controlling the characters fighting the monsters really highlights the sense of adventure.
>>344212820
So you are saying that is okay to have a 2 weapon limit if all the guns are almost the same?
